2008 Arnold Classic Prize Money Info

[wisconsinBB]

Absolutely pathetic prize money for what is supposed to now be the premier event in bodybuilding.  5th place only nets you 15K.  What a joke.

[SF1900]

No.  But opposing views on the holocaust are actually punishable by prison time in other countries?    If it is so obvious that the official story is accurate, what's the problem with the  alleged nuts who feel otherwise?  We are brainwashed to believe certain things to be true in life - for instance, that all races are equal.  Woten has introduced me to a series of perspectives that the media and public education system tries very hard to hide.  Personally I do not find myself agreeing with Woten often, but I find it reprehensible that such opposing viewpoints need to be censored.

Well, if you believe that we are all not equal, read Nietzsche

[MattT]

they can't even get the 2 biggest events in bodybuilding on TV..there are like 300 channels that broadcast crap like "ice fishing" and "learn how to train your pet hamster"...yet bodybuilding they won't air.

I agree, there has to be some network willing to broadcast a bbing show.  What happened to the days of American Muscle on ESPN?   We need someone to push for bbing to be on TV.   Someone needs to figure out how to make bbing more appealing to watch on TV.   They need to do what the UFC did with the Ulitimate fighter show

[Camel Jockey]

No.  But opposing views on the holocaust are actually punishable by prison time in other countries?    If it is so obvious that the official story is accurate, what's the problem with the  alleged nuts who feel otherwise?  We are brainwashed to believe certain things to be true in life - for instance, that all races are equal.  Woten has introduced me to a series of perspectives that the media and public education system tries very hard to hide.  Personally I do not find myself agreeing with Woten often, but I find it reprehensible that such opposing viewpoints need to be censored.

A lot of people have these views, dolt. It's just that you can't be out and about in real life expressing them.

I doubt Woten campaigns actively to question the official Holocaust story in real life.

[Matt C]

Well, if you believe that we are all not equal, read Nietzsche

Will do.  Thanks for the reference.

A lot of people have these views, dolt. It's just that you can't be out and about in real life expressing them.

I doubt Woten campaigns actively to question the official Holocaust story in real life.

I think it should be perfectly alright to express your views in real life.  That is what free speech is all about.

[Camel Jockey]

Good luck being branded as some nutty pariah..

Seriously, free speech is important. But Woten presents points from very extreme view points; which of course he's entitled to do. It wouldn't work on anyone in real life unless you were a real charmer and could undue peoples' own views on matters that have been influenced by much greater forces.. Like the media(jews) and social norms.

[bebop396]

Ive heard of promoters walking away from the competition with less money then they walked in with....Ofcourse i doubt that is the case with the bigger shows....I wonder how the athletes get paid if the promoter is in the red....

[SteelePegasus]

I agree, there has to be some network willing to broadcast a bbing show.  What happened to the days of American Muscle on ESPN?   We need someone to push for bbing to be on TV.   Someone needs to figure out how to make bbing more appealing to watch on TV.   They need to do what the UFC did with the Ulitimate fighter show

the elephant in the room is the drug element..everyone knows that other athletes in other sports use PED but that is implicit...where as in bodybuilding it is explicit!

you can take any 160 "warrior" and teach him BJJ, boxing, wrestling or any other trendy sport on TV in a given time period..but with BB you can't take that same warrior and make him gain 40lbs of muscle and not have the DEA breaking down your door..

so that rules out any kind of ultimate fighter show..

[OneMoreRep]

Not bad, so far the Arnold has proved to be the most lucrative of events and also the one with the most dignity involved. 

At least if you win the Arnold, you know that it wasn't due to a muscletech contract or to the fact that someone from upstairs approved of it.  Hell, if Victor won last year, with all the heat he has been getting, you know it had to be a fair contest based solely on bodybuilding, so I applaud it..

It might not be GREAT money, but, hypothetically speaking, the winner can truly make $150,000 in one night.  $130,000 from first prize, $10K after you pawn that useless watch and then another $10K if you pull a Kai Green and master the posing round.

If not for the Arnold, this sport would be a joke, because the Olympia is already fixed as EVERYONE knows...

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[Julio Ceasar]

Pricemoney is everything. Rise it and the sport will become bigger. Would be interesting and see what happend if the winner got 1 000 000 dollar. Thats enough to be financially independent fort the rest of the life. Both Arnold and the Weider brothers can afford that with no problems.

[Chick]

Tell you what I'd like to see, is the lower placings earning a min of $4-5K...after all...it is a invitational event. $1,000 is pathetic.

[Matt C]

Whilst I havent maxed out, But I did easily get 225 for 113 a few weeks ago and last week I did 420 for 5 easily.

I am quite Sure I could do 500 or so right now and I am leaner than the Mr. Getbig Contest.

I call bullshit.

[MAXX]

like mattc said they dont generate enough money to raise the pricemoney so how could they....

bb is cult allways has allways will be. sad but true. takes a certain individual to be into this sport (no i dont mean the fags)

[Lift Studios]

Tell you what I'd like to see, is the lower placings earning a min of $4-5K...after all...it is a invitational event. $1,000 is pathetic.

At least all the men make something. The women beyond 6th don't get a dime. 1k is better than nothing.

[Matt C]

If the competitors don't like what they are making, they are free to stop competing and pursue something else.

[G o a t b o y]

Do people even wear watches anymore?  Everyone I know carries a cell phone; I gave up watches more than 15 years ago.

1) Watches are jewelery as much as timekeepers.

2) What's easier if you want to know the time...  glancing at your wrist, or digging a cell phone out of your pocket?

[Chick]

At least all the men make something. The women beyond 6th don't get a dime. 1k is better than nothing.

ANYONE who's invited to compete at a contest should be bringing home something.....this will be in with the new proposals I'l be submitting for the next pro league meeting...

[The Squadfather]

ANYONE who's invited to compete at a contest should be bringing home something.....this will be in with the new proposals I'l be submitting for the next pro league meeting...

hey Bob just out of curiosity why did they get rid of the Escalade as part of the prize for the Olympia?

[Gym dude]

I can not understand that myself why the prize money for the Arnold is so small  compare to likes of the Olympia.The women who finsh below sixth i think that they should get something like 900 dollars.

[bigdumbbell]

my 20 year old rolex looks good next to a blackberry

[G o a t b o y]

hey Bob just out of curiosity why did they get rid of the Escalade as part of the prize for the Olympia?

White guys are contending for the title now...  they wouldn't be caught dead in an Escalade.

[Matt C]

Good luck being branded as some nutty pariah..

Seriously, free speech is important. But Woten presents points from very extreme view points; which of course he's entitled to do. It wouldn't work on anyone in real life unless you were a real charmer and could undue peoples' own views on matters that have been influenced by much greater forces.. Like the media(jews) and social norms.

Woten is at times ridiculous to debate with.  He completely rules out environment, expectation effects, and self fulfilling prophecies as reasons why black people do not do as well in life as white people.

Let me tell you this as a matter of fact: if anyone here who is white walked around in a "black suit" (like Gwyneth Paltrow's fat suit in "Shallow Hal" (2001)) you WILL be treated worse.  This type of effect has been studied and proven empirically so how Woten discounts it makes no logical sense at all.  On the other hand, he does have some compelling arguments in his favour.

[Chick]

hey Bob just out of curiosity why did they get rid of the Escalade as part of the prize for the Olympia?

That was from a specific sponsor (company)...they decided not to continue with the sponsorship a few years back.

[G o a t b o y]

Thus, Wooten might be right that the AVERAGE IQ difference between blacks and whites is there, but a lot of it is not due to genetics but the social conditions that FAILS to MAXIMIZE the genetical capabilities in the brain in those early years.

Who cares WHY it is?  Whether it's due to nature or nuture, that doesn't change the fact that black adults, on average, are still dumb as dirt compared to their white or asian contemporaries.

[Matt C]

Who cares WHY it is?  Whether it's due to nature or nuture, that doesn't change the fact that black adults, on average, are still dumb as dirt compared to their white or asian contemporaries.

True.

The POINT that "liberals" (i.e., not neocons) like myself make is to just give them a damn chance.  If they are bad genetically as it is, is it going to HELP or HURT to push them and bother them and criminalize them every chance you get? 

As strong and confident that I am, when put in a situation where people had doubted me or tried to see the worst in me, it was hard even for ME to rise above that.  I can't imagine how difficult it must be for someone who has never learned to be strong and thus knows nothing else but to fall into the traps others force them into.