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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: MattT on January 26, 2008, 04:49:05 PM
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Holla at playa ;)
TEAM OBAMA!!
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You're canadian... why do you give a shit?
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of course he won look who lives in South Carolina. ::)
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You're canadian... why do you give a shit?
lets see here my little green friend,,maybe they both have white mom and black dad? maybe they both look more black than white? maybe he feel proud that one of his truw own black and white combo is doing so well and should defenitely be the democrat nominee? hes happy ,,
also dont forget they both have half white in them,,id be proud too,,this thing in america is big deal ,,that is no jasie jackson
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of course he won look who lives in South Carolina. ::)
Um he also won in Iowa with 97% of the voters being white;) don't give me that shit about him just winning because he's black. I though Bill was black too? 27% of white males voted for obama, and only 28% voted for Clinton. That right there says alot.
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lets see here my little green friend,,maybe they both have white mom and black dad? maybe they both look more black than white? maybe he feel proud that one of his truw own black and white combo is doing so well and should defenitely be the democrat nominee? hes happy ,,
also dont forget they both have half white in them,,id be proud too,,this thing in america is big deal ,,that is no jasie jackson
A black president would have us all paying reparations.. All american tax payers that is.. ::)
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the Hil-dogg still has some fight in her
(http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070112/070112_hillary_vmed_7a.widec.jpg)
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dont worry the next american president is john mccain ,,but obama is defenitely a force for future presidancies and defnitely shoul dbe the democratic nomineee,,hilray is a demon she will come back very hard and she will win majority of states in usa but maybe obama can give a good fight and take it ,,it dont matter anyway becaue mccain is just the right man in the right time for america,,american is basically screaming and begging for mccain to be president,,i never sen uin my life time so many endorsments and people that like mccain although he is not even republican he is independent with republican colors and some republican morals,,but this is first time america going independent and your hormones will be leagal as they always been but under limited control and that means no more need to be scared even in america
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the Hil-dogg still has some fight in her
(http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070112/070112_hillary_vmed_7a.widec.jpg)
if this demon even become president not only now but ever ,,american will not maintain its super power through out the 21th century ,,this woman is hated by majority of americans ,, both republicnas and democrats but she has bill clinton and ex president has connections and walked the walk not only talked the talk so she may be the nominee but never president because ameirca will lose and americans know this
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I find all of the bi-partisan rhetoric a total turn off
It seems like no one is interested in fixing the problems but only advancing their party "platform"
it is a shame that our "leaders" can't work together to solve the issues destroying our economy and society
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balancing the budget and reducing our national debt and trade surplus is something no one is trying to do these days
everyone is focusing on immigration and pandering to the hispanic voters and giving everyone $200 to buy liquor..while saying fuck the economy
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dont worry the next american president is john mccain ,,but obama is defenitely a force for future presidancies and defnitely shoul dbe the democratic nomineee,,hilray is a demon she will come back very hard and she will win majority of states in usa but maybe obama can give a good fight and take it ,,it dont matter anyway becaue mccain is just the right man in the right time for america,,american is basically screaming and begging for mccain to be president,,i never sen uin my life time so many endorsments and people that like mccain although he is not even republican he is independent with republican colors and some republican morals,,but this is first time america going independent and your hormones will be leagal as they always been but under limited control and that means no more need to be scared even in america
gh15 i agree i think McCain will win in the end, but id rather see Obama vs McCain then Billiary vs McCain.
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The future looks bright.
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The good thing about it if Obama takes the nomination is that it will pretty much end Hillary's presidential aspirations for all time. If he wins, she won't recover.
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I find all of the bi-partisan rhetoric a total turn off
It seems like no one is interested in fixing the problems but only advancing their party "platform"
it is a shame that our "leaders" can't work together to solve the issues destroying our economy and society
both sides have different perspectives and thus different solutions - the voter decides which platform is best
hope this helps
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both sides have different perspectives and thus different solutions - the voter decides which platform is best
hope this helps
hmmm..I am not sure that is the way things that have turned out
you could anyone from the rep and dems and in the general election you can guarantee about 46% of the votes per candidate..only 4-5% of the country actually votes for the best candidate irrespective of party affiliation..
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very exciting. imagine how much america could change for the better if obama gets the nomination...im getting chills just thinking about it..
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I'll cover any and all bets regarding McCain becoming President. He will never be the President... totally impossible. ;D ;D
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I'll cover any and all bets regarding McCain becoming President. He will never be the President... totally impossible. ;D ;D
not true. he is likely to get the nomination depending on the outcome of florida...and if he does, he WILL beat hillary if she is the nominee, and it would be close between him and obama. edwards would surely beat him, but edwards isnt likely to be the candidate.
a mccain presidency is very likely if he does well in florida and the "surge" continues to be passed off as "semi-successful" or better.
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very exciting. imagine how much america could change for the better if obama gets the nomination...im getting chills just thinking about it..
Too much coke again?
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If a black man gets elected, it might make terrorists think twice about attacking us. On the other hand, he'll most likely get assassinated before getting into office.
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Fuck Obama
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gh15 i agree i think McCain will win in the end, but id rather see Obama vs McCain then Billiary vs McCain.
WTF for cuz he's somewhat a "brother"??
Obama has no real platform. When asked directly what he would do as president all your ever going to get is his..."Hope n Change, Hope n Change" bumpersticker bullshit over and over. Obama is a great speaker and that's it. Nothing more.
In the end it wont be enough to win everybody over. Remember this same platitude is what killed Kerry in 04.
Fck Obama,,,,, ;)
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WTF for cuz he's somewhat a "brother"??
Obama has no real platform. When asked directly what he would do as president all your ever going to get is his..."Hope n Change, Hope n Change" bumpersticker bullshit over and over. Obama is a great speaker and that's it. Nothing more.
In the end it wont be enough to win everybody over. Remember this same platitude is what killed Kerry in 04.
Fck Obama,,,,, ;)
obama is better than hillary but yeah, he reminds me of deval patrick(gov here in massachusetts).
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very exciting. imagine how much america could change for the better if obama gets the nomination...im getting chills just thinking about it..
::)
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Obama is a phony puppet. A creature of the DLC, he wouldnt change a damn thing-it would be no different from a Clinton admin.
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Obama is a phony puppet. A creature of the DLC, he wouldnt change a damn thing-it would be no different from a Clinton admin.
BINGO.
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Obama is a phony puppet. A creature of the DLC, he wouldnt change a damn thing-it would be no different from a Clinton admin.
i worry about the economy and world markets if a colored person was in charge
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dont worry the next american president is john mccain ,,but obama is defenitely a force for future presidancies and defnitely shoul dbe the democratic nomineee,,hilray is a demon she will come back very hard and she will win majority of states in usa but maybe obama can give a good fight and take it ,,it dont matter anyway becaue mccain is just the right man in the right time for america,,american is basically screaming and begging for mccain to be president,,i never sen uin my life time so many endorsments and people that like mccain although he is not even republican he is independent with republican colors and some republican morals,,but this is first time america going independent and your hormones will be leagal as they always been but under limited control and that means no more need to be scared even in america
your on crack if you think a republican has a snowballs chance in hell this coming election ::)
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Hahaha. Good to see the Getbig neanderthals/morons out in full force.
Among other things, Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review. Harvard is not a liberal school like Yale, where Hillary went. And unlike Hillary, he was not a child of privilege. So, he was able to get a bunch of conservatives who achieved more than any of you dipshits to vote him to a prestigious position. Since then he's become senator and made a bigger name for himself. I'd rather trust him than someone like Hillary who has had everything handed to her on a silver platter. Cause he knows how to work the system. As some media people describe him, he's "the Natural."
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DNC has dogshit for brains. The country is sick of Bush and the GOP, they are polling below Nixon after watergate.
So the DNC puts Obama and Hillary out there................... both would lose against McCain. Edwards would beat McCain.........but they have pretty much already pushed Edwards out of the race. It looks like we are going to have a crazy war mongering McCain presidency.
(http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/mccain.jpg)
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DNC has dogshit for brains. The country is sick of Bush and the GOP, they are polling below Nixon after watergate.
So the DNC puts Obama and Hillary out there................... both would lose against McCain. Edwards would beat McCain.........but they have pretty much already pushed Edwards out of the race. It looks like we are going to have a crazy war mongering McCain presidency.
(http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/mccain.jpg)
McCain's not going to be president. Do you realize how many democrats are coming out to vote in the primaries? Most Republicans are tired of the shit that's been ladled to them for the last eight years.They're jsut going to sit this one out.
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Hahaha. Good to see the Getbig neanderthals/morons out in full force.
Among other things, Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review. Harvard is not a liberal school like Yale, where Hillary went. And unlike Hillary, he was not a child of privilege. So, he was able to get a bunch of conservatives who achieved more than any of you dipshits to vote him to a prestigious position. Since then he's become senator and made a bigger name for himself. I'd rather trust him than someone like Hillary who has had everything handed to her on a silver platter. Cause he knows how to work the system. As some media people describe him, he's "the Natural."
hillary went to to college at Wellsley. yale for law school
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your on crack if you think a republican has a snowballs chance in hell this coming election ::)
All the Dems has to do was put up a reasonable candidate and you'd be right. But nooooooooo.... they had to go with Hillary (who half of America wouldn't vote for if she were buying votes at $100k per) or some black guy who just got out of diapers like last week. ::)
The Dems are their own workt enemy. Whoever wins the GOP primary will win the election.
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hillary went to to college at Wellsley. yale for law school
Gee, thanks. Did you miss the part where I said HLR? Obama went to Columbia and some school out west for undergrad.
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i worry about the economy and world markets if a colored person was in charge
thank god that bush is doing a stellar job on the economy ::)
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Harvard is not a liberal school like Yale, where Hillary went.
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All the Ivys are "Liberal".
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All the Dems has to do was put up a reasonable candidate and you'd be right. But nooooooooo.... they had to go with Hillary (who half of America wouldn't vote for if she were buying votes at $100k per) or some black guy who just got out of diapers like last week. ::)
The Dems are their own workt enemy. Whoever wins the GOP primary will win the election.
No goatboy, not every one still lives in the stone age/Houston like you and my addled grandmother who sent in an early primary vote for Hillary. It's going to be an uphill climb for the Democratic nominee, but McCain will likely get skewered in several states outside the South.
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as far as the repub voters sitting this one out, youd be right -IF the Dems didnt nominate such polarizing candidates. Hillary Clinton would probably cause a 100% repub vote turnout, this is a Karl Rove wet dream.
Crazy John McCain is going to win, all i have to say is register for the draft and stock up on canned goods.
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All the Ivys are "Liberal".
Go sell your Penn bs somewhere else, we're all stocked up here. I don't need some glorified MBA to tell me what HLS is like. ::)
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not true. he is likely to get the nomination depending on the outcome of florida...and if he does, he WILL beat hillary if she is the nominee, and it would be close between him and obama. edwards would surely beat him, but edwards isnt likely to be the candidate.
a mccain presidency is very likely if he does well in florida and the "surge" continues to be passed off as "semi-successful" or better.
no ,,the florida has little to do with the nomination ,,it will be better if mccain win it to secure the nomination 100% but even with out florida mccain will be the nominee simply because he has the most experience and record of a tue leader ,,true war hero ,,true navigator,,true thinker,,true independent ,,true in your face real talk ,,very similar to gh15 by the way! so the florida can contribute a lot but its not a must ,,ofcourse it will nail everything and wrap everything if mccain get a win in the state of florida usa
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DNC has dogshit for brains. The country is sick of Bush and the GOP, they are polling below Nixon after watergate.
So the DNC puts Obama and Hillary out there................... both would lose against McCain. Edwards would beat McCain.........but they have pretty much already pushed Edwards out of the race. It looks like we are going to have a crazy war mongering McCain presidency.
(http://blog.kir.com/archives/images/mccain.jpg)
smart post for a change ;)
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All the Dems has to do was put up a reasonable candidate and you'd be right. But nooooooooo.... they had to go with Hillary (who half of America wouldn't vote for if she were buying votes at $100k per) or some black guy who just got out of diapers like last week. ::)
The Dems are their own workt enemy. Whoever wins the GOP primary will win the election.
even smarter post!,, all the dmocratic party had to do is put al gore at the head ticket and the white house is theirs,,
al gore would get over 75% of the votes on election day and would have been the president ,,now he will have to wait another 4 o to 8 years,,but yes al gore would have become president if ran this time
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no ,,the florida has little to do with the nomination ,,it will be better if mccain win it to secure the nomination 100% but even with out florida mccain will be the nominee simply because he has the most experience and record of a tue leader ,,true war hero ,,true navigator,,true thinker,,true independent ,,true in your face real talk ,,very similar to gh15 by the way! so the florida can contribute a lot but its not a must ,,ofcourse it will nail everything and wrap everything if mccain get a win in the state of florida usa
Listen genius, we don't want a caveman to be our president. That's why most Republicans can't be bothered to get off their asses and vote for a candidate.
When November rolls around, you think all the millions of foreclosed folk are going to vote for a war-monger? WTF does McCain know about an economy? THat's what we care about, not your goddamn steroid crusade.
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A black president would have us all paying reparations.. All american tax payers that is.. ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=197302.0;attach=229482;image)
For a very good discussion about race, check out this thread on my board:
http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=3496
Say what you want about Woten, he brings up some very compelling arguments.
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RON PAUL in 2008!!!
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Daughter of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, Caroline Bouvier Kennedy. Has just endorsed Barak Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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it should be mccain vs obama ,,,it will be mccain vs hilary,, it should be mccain vs edwards and it shoudl HAVE been mccain vs gore
romney has money and he will fight mccain to the finish line but romney has a problem of being phoney and stiff,,and this is something american can not and will not keep up with ,,if he was the nominee you can be prepared to clinton double presidency of a man and a woman controling the country ,,the man fuckin interns in white house and the woman having secret polices and you can forget about any hormone what so ever for the next 4 years shes in power,,she wont be but that was a if scenerio
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Say what you want about Woten, he brings up some very compelling arguments.
You really are Canadian white trash, aren't you?
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it should be mccain vs obama ,,,it will be mccain vs hilary,, it should be mccain vs edwards and it shoudl HAVE been mccain vs gore
romney has money and he will fight mccain to the finish line but romney has a problem of being phoney and stiff,,and this is something american can not and will not keep up with ,,if he was the nominee you can be prepared to clinton double presidency of a man and a woman controling the country ,,the man fuckin interns in white house and the woman having secret polices and you can forget about any hormone what so ever for the next 4 years shes in power,,she wont be but that was a if scenerio
Oh Jesus, our economy is in the crapper, and all this fool can think of is his goddamn drugs.
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Listen genius, we don't want a caveman to be our president. That's why most Republicans can't be bothered to get off their asses and vote for a candidate.
When November rolls around, you think all the millions of foreclosed folk are going to vote for a war-monger? WTF does McCain know about an economy? THat's what we care about, not your goddamn steroid crusade.
it has nothing to do with economy ,,,you need to learn that in life especially post 911 and this era of oceans who can not protect anyone,,,ameircans see their security as outmost important,,,iran is building nuclear weapen and ussr is coming back into power and will be again a super power,,americans ,,most of them,,are not dumb when it comes to their future generation,,the girls may be whores,,the guys maybe drunks and cheaters,,but when it comes to the safty of their life and their children be sure about one thing! AMERICANS LOVE LEADERS,,AMERICANS LOVE REAL HEROS,,AMERICANS LOVE TO BE LEAD BY THE GREATEST,,MCCAIN IS ONE OF THE GREATEST,,HE ALWAYS WAS AND HIS TIME HAS COME,,mccain is no bob doll be sure of that! mccain is true leader and is very very smart fella,,he is a leader with more experience than all nominees of both parys put together
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Daughter of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, Caroline Bouvier Kennedy. Has just endorsed Barak Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah she said Obama is just like her father. well her father was a drug addict and sexaholic...is that what she means?
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You really are Canadian white trash, aren't you?
Hey, I don't support Woten's over the top attitude towards black people, I'm just saying he brings up compelling and highly academic arguments. You would do well to read what he has to say before passing judgment.
Please read it and reply back here with your thoughts at that point.
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Listen genius, we don't want a caveman to be our president. That's why most Republicans can't be bothered to get off their asses and vote for a candidate.
When November rolls around, you think all the millions of foreclosed folk are going to vote for a war-monger? WTF does McCain know about an economy? THat's what we care about, not your goddamn steroid crusade.
If you're referring to the subprime mortgage mess, the "foreclosed folks" have no one but themselves to blame. They all took out loans they couldn't afford to buy big houses they couldn't afford so they could impress their friends and live a lifestyle they hadn't earned. In the process they almost sunk the American banking industry, and they still may when all the chicken from this fiasco come home to roost.
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You really are Canadian white trash, aren't you?
The IQ difference between blacks and whites = very real, and supported by many leading scientists (including Arthur Jensen) and studies in the field.
Wooten might be a fruitcake, and IQ is influenced by many other factors than just genetics (factors that automatically puts many blacks and africans at a disadvantage), but the reality still stands. The average IQ difference between blacks and whites/asians = very real. That IQ difference puts blacks at a pretty big disadvantage in fields like academics.
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it has nothing to do with economy ,,,you need to learn that in life especially post 911 and this era of oceans who can not protect anyone,,,ameircans see their security as outmost important,,,iran is building nuclear weapen and ussr is coming back into power and will be again a super power,,americans ,,most of them,,are not dumb when it comes to their future generation,,the girls may be whores,,the guys maybe drunks and cheaters,,but when it comes to the safty of their life and their children be sure about one thing! AMERICANS LOVE LEADERS,,AMERICANS LOVE REAL HEROS,,AMERICANS LOVE TO BE LEAD BY THE GREATEST,,MCCAIN IS ONE OF THE GREATEST,,HE ALWAYS WAS AND HIS TIME HAS COME,,mccain is no bob doll be sure of that! mccain is true leader and is very very smart fella,,he is a leader with more experience than all nominees of both parys put together
McCain was once a hero. More recently he's turned into a "pandering son of a bitch" (to borrow a phrase from my grandfather).
All Americans with any kind of influence know the value of the military-industry complex. And someone who went to Harvard Law, and was able to persuade the elite of its student body to give him one of the most prestigious positions at that school knows it too. Do you think we're just going to shut down Boeing and NASA if someone other than McCain is elected? No president has that much power in a federal system.
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If you're referring to the subprime mortgage mess, the "foreclosed folks" have no one but themselves to blame. They all took out loans they couldn't afford to buy big houses they couldn't afford so they could impress their friends and live a lifestyle they hadn't earned. In the process they almost sunk the American banking industry, and they still may when all the chicken from this fiasco come home to roost.
It's not just their fault. It's also the fault of enablers like Danielson. :D But that's neither here nor there. The only relevant point is that they have votes, and are more likely to use it given their interest in a certain outcome.
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The IQ difference between blacks and whites = very real, and supported by many leading scientists (including Arthur Jensen) and studies in the field.
Wooten might be a fruitcake, and IQ is influenced by many other factors than just genetics (factors that automatically puts many blacks and africans at a disadvantage), but the reality still stands. The average IQ difference between blacks and whites/asians = very real. That IQ difference puts blacks at a pretty big disadvantage in fields like academics.
Yes, but Obama is not your average African-american, is he? That's all I'm concerned with at the moment.
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now imagine if obama wins....... lollll
all the black people running around yelling revenge, revenge... burning and destroying stores, riot and mass murders........ what? it's already happening? oh well......
in that case, Arnold must be allowed to be president!
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yeah she said Obama is just like her father. well her father was a drug addict and sexaholic...is that what she means?
Nice. You're coming off as almost as big a retard as our old friend MattT.
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now imagine if obama wins....... lollll
all the black people running around yelling revenge, revenge... burning and destroying stores, riot and mass murders........ what? it's already happening? oh well......
in that case, Arnold must be allowed to be president!
if that happens i'll leave the country for 6 months
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now imagine if obama wins....... lollll
all the black people running around yelling revenge, revenge... burning and destroying stores, riot and mass murders........ what? it's already happening? oh well......
in that case, Arnold must be allowed to be president!
Oh, haha, you must be a riot at the hootenannies. ;)
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if that happens i'll leave the country for 6 months
How about a permanent exile? Go to Russia. They welcome progressive attitudes like yours over there.
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McCain was once a hero. More recently he's turned into a "pandering son of a bitch" (to borrow a phrase from my grandfather).
All Americans with any kind of influence know the value of the military-industry complex. And someone who went to Harvard Law, and was able to persuade the elite of its student body to give him one of the most prestigious positions at that school knows it too. Do you think we're just going to shut down Boeing and NASA if someone other than McCain is elected? No president has that much power in a federal system.
mccain is invovative,,once a war hero always a war hero ,,mccain neevr left his friends behind,,he never left those soldiers until every one of them cameback home,,mccain is a military man a pilot!,,mccain is a fast thinker a fast shooter,,mccain has a jew brain sitting in irish body,,the jews shifter their support from rudy guliani to mccain ,,the immigrants both illegal and leagal wil vote for mccain ,,women want dafty for the kids future will vote mccain ,,,the republican party in america every day endorsing mccain in diff ways and forms,,people come out for him millions of people willing to do whatever it takes for him,,only risk for him is romny and only due to PERSONAL MONEY ROMNY SPENDS,,in america like gh15 told you before MONEY TALKS so romny can hold it for a while but at the end no american will chose a phony business man because business man can not lead in war you already sw how bush the son failed,,,a leader is needed for war! and for peace! PEACE ONLY COME WITH STRONG LEADERS AND MCCAIN IS A STRONG LEADER,,AN IRON FIST WITH A SOFT HEART LEADER,,MCCAIN WILL WIN THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES,,ITS NOT A QUESTION OF IF ITS A QUESTION OF BY HOW MUCH ,,I SAY BY A GOOD MARGIN
american is in need of a true leader,,america hasnt had true leader for 20 some years,,america is crying for leader,,,america is crying for leader with experience,,,clinton and bush were not leader in nature,,,america is crying for a truman or hizenhour (nice speling huh?) america is crying for mccain ,,,AMEIRCA IS NOW READY FOR MCCAIN ,,
gh15 truly believe that mccain will be the one to lead the american troops out of iraq and into peace times with minimal bases and because mccain will win this war ,,it will be maybe longer time wether its republican or democrat it will take longer ,,i say good 5 years atleast ,,but! mccain will get the job done AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
MCCAIN WILL ASSASINATE OSAMA BIN LADEN,,HE WILL EITHER GET HIM BACK FOR TRIAL AND DEATH SENTENCE IN AMERICA OR SIMPLY ASSASINATE HIM
mccain is strngth with peace and not peace with defet! ameirca HAS MUST AND GOT TO WIN THIS ONE IN ORDER TO REMAIN SUPER POWER,,REMEMBER RUSSIA IS BECOMING USSR AGAIN ,,remember what gh15 told you here RUSSIA IS BECOMING USSR AGAIN AND IRAN IS BUILDING A BIG NUCLREAR FACILITIES CAPABLE OF REACHING AND DESTROYING THE EAST COST OF THE UNITED STATES,,
mccain will be president
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if that happens i'll leave the country for 6 months
You suck.
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just so you understand since you are probably 20 year ld most of you ,,JOHN MCCAIN IS JOHN RAMBO,,john rambo of real life,,a real one not a movie one
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How about a permanent exile? Go to Russia. They welcome progressive attitudes like yours over there.
nah, i know germany much better
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obama got 85% of the colored vote
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just so you understand since you are probably 20 year ld most of you ,,JOHN MCCAIN IS JOHN RAMBO,,john rambo of real life,,a real one not a movie one
John Rambo would have escaped. Hope this helps. ;D
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John Rambo would have escaped. Hope this helps. ;D
"in town you're the law, out here it's me.......don't push it, don't push it or i'll give you a war you won't believe"
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obama got 85% of the colored vote
That is good for being only half black. ;D
hell, he is not even American black :P
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obama got 85% of the colored vote
Lol. The blacks are clearly voting on the basis of the skin color of the candidates, yet we're the ones who are "not progressive". ::)
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"in town you're the law, out here it's me.......don't push it, don't push it or i'll give you a war you won't believe"
Haha. That movie was great. I hope the new one is decent.
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the Hil-dogg still has some fight in her
(http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070112/070112_hillary_vmed_7a.widec.jpg)
She threw Obama a bone...South Carolina.
She has already sewn up the nomination, so now, the mission for America is to do whatever we can to KEEP HER ASS OUT of the White House.
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She threw Obama a bone...South Carolina.
She has already sewn up the nomination, so now, the mission for America is to do whatever we can to KEEP HER ASS OUT of the White House.
whatever? ::)
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Lol. The blacks are clearly voting on the basis of the skin color of the candidates, yet we're the ones who are "not progressive". ::)
Assuming you're right, what do their actions have to do with the definition of being "progressive"?
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mccain is invovative,,once a war hero always a war hero ,,mccain neevr left his friends behind,,he never left those soldiers until every one of them cameback home,,mccain is a military man a pilot!,,mccain is a fast thinker a fast shooter,,mccain has a jew brain sitting in irish body,,the jews shifter their support from rudy guliani to mccain ,,the immigrants both illegal and leagal wil vote for mccain ,,women want dafty for the kids future will vote mccain ,,,the republican party in america every day endorsing mccain in diff ways and forms,,people come out for him millions of people willing to do whatever it takes for him,,only risk for him is romny and only due to PERSONAL MONEY ROMNY SPENDS,,in america like gh15 told you before MONEY TALKS so romny can hold it for a while but at the end no american will chose a phony business man because business man can not lead in war you already sw how bush the son failed,,,a leader is needed for war! and for peace! PEACE ONLY COME WITH STRONG LEADERS AND MCCAIN IS A STRONG LEADER,,AN IRON FIST WITH A SOFT HEART LEADER,,MCCAIN WILL WIN THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES,,ITS NOT A QUESTION OF IF ITS A QUESTION OF BY HOW MUCH ,,I SAY BY A GOOD MARGIN
american is in need of a true leader,,america hasnt had true leader for 20 some years,,america is crying for leader,,,america is crying for leader with experience,,,clinton and bush were not leader in nature,,,america is crying for a truman or hizenhour (nice speling huh?) america is crying for mccain ,,,AMEIRCA IS NOW READY FOR MCCAIN ,,
gh15 truly believe that mccain will be the one to lead the american troops out of iraq and into peace times with minimal bases and because mccain will win this war ,,it will be maybe longer time wether its republican or democrat it will take longer ,,i say good 5 years atleast ,,but! mccain will get the job done AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
MCCAIN WILL ASSASINATE OSAMA BIN LADEN,,HE WILL EITHER GET HIM BACK FOR TRIAL AND DEATH SENTENCE IN AMERICA OR SIMPLY ASSASINATE HIM
mccain is strngth with peace and not peace with defet! ameirca HAS MUST AND GOT TO WIN THIS ONE IN ORDER TO REMAIN SUPER POWER,,REMEMBER RUSSIA IS BECOMING USSR AGAIN ,,remember what gh15 told you here RUSSIA IS BECOMING USSR AGAIN AND IRAN IS BUILDING A BIG NUCLREAR FACILITIES CAPABLE OF REACHING AND DESTROYING THE EAST COST OF THE UNITED STATES,,
mccain will be president
I agree that woman will be a disaster for Americas security, but there are a LOT of ppl in a bad financial state in the USA now.
PPL that have never had to deal with this kind of economy. PPL that didnt live thru the Carter years.
Its also going to get worse not better till election time.
Basic services have been cut to the bone to fund Bush's wars.
PPL are going to vote their wallets.
The "Tax stimulus refunds" are going to be a cold hard slap in the face taht will backfire.
They will buy a couple shopping carts of food is all.
A lot are going to stand in LONG LINES to vote for any Democrat free Pie inthe sky offing they puke up.
Hillary will be that as there is no other suitable Dem product for the Americal political market. NOT TAHT I WANT THIS!
But also remember re: HORMONES - The Dem party is MUCH more open to rational in "treatment" & education etc tahn the Repubs Law & Order philosophy and greedy desire to further the Prison and LE industry by keeping steroid not only illegal but a
Sh II Drug classed w/ methamphetimine and Cocaine....
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Assuming you're right, what do their actions have to do with the definition of being "progressive"?
Cancer is progressive.
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She threw Obama a bone...South Carolina.
She has already sewn up the nomination, so now, the mission for America is to do whatever we can to KEEP HER ASS OUT of the White House.
Oh Jesus, now this clown's arrived.
She will probably win the nomination, unless CA, NY, and FL have a change of heart, but that doesn't make you any less of a dipshit.
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Cancer is progressive.
Haha. Funny. Not. ::)
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I agree that woman will be a disaster for Americas security, but there are a LOT of ppl in a bad financial state in the USA now.
PPL that have never had to deal with this kind of economy. PPL that didnt live thru the Carter years.
Its also going to get worse not better till election time.
Basic services have been cut to the bone to fund Bush's wars.
PPL are going to vote their wallets.
The "Tax stimulus refunds" are going to be a cold hard slap in the face taht will backfire.
They will buy a couple shopping carts of food is all.
A lot are going to stand in LONG LINES to vote for any Democrat free Pie inthe sky offing they puke up.
Hillary will be that as there is no other suitable Dem product for the Americal political market. NOT TAHT I WANT THIS!
But also remember re: HORMONES - The Dem party is MUCH more open to rational in "treatment" & education etc tahn the Repubs Law & Order philosophy and greedy desire to further the Prison and LE industry by keeping steroid not only illegal but a
Sh II Drug classed w/ methamphetimine and Cocaine....
she just cant win it in general election because it is doal presidency ,,
AMEIRCANS WILL NOT LET BILL CLINTON SIT IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND FUCK WOMEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE ON THIER TAX PAYER MONEY,,AMIERUCANS WONT LET THIS CRAZY WOMAN THAT HAS SECRET POLICE RUIN THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO SLEPT WITH HER HUSBAND HANDLE A MATTER OF NUCLEAR CONCEQUENCES,,
americans are known to take things easy ,,but when it comes to this one they dont,,ameircans dont like hilary clinton when it comes to the majority ,,and this majority is big in the 60-70%,,so ys the turn out will be big but it will be for john mccain from loyal independent that other wize would not vote and from republicnas that see mccain as ok and suited to lead and even from democrats who cant stand hilary clinton due to her demonized figure in american life,,that woman is very cold very calculated and will stop at nothing to chiave what she wants ,,she is fake fake is very very bad because fake can never be real ,,real can be fake but fake can never be real,,after bush years i dont see any continuation to the bush clinton dinestys ,,
bush ruin america to such a degree form the inside that a very wize smart and EXPERIENCED person got to fix it ,,someone who knows wshington and been ther ebceause after the promises it is all wahington dealing,,and someone who can deliver as in to your face truth with out bullcrap,,mccain is not scared of anyone ,,hes a leader he makes people follow him ,,unlike bush the son mccain is a true leader,,
this presidency is screaming loudly mccain
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Cancer is progressive.
hahaha awesome
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We will see........
Fact is Big Money and power decides. Not "Americans".
Billy would effectively be running the show also, and Americans remember a prosperous trouble free era from Bill Clinton.
Bill looks close to the grave though.
Expect more of the same of much no matter who win.
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Discuss:
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All the Dems has to do was put up a reasonable candidate and you'd be right. But nooooooooo.... they had to go with Hillary (who half of America wouldn't vote for if she were buying votes at $100k per) or some black guy who just got out of diapers like last week. ::)
The Dems are their own workt enemy. Whoever wins the GOP primary will win the election.
Yes, the dems are stupid.
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At the rate that the dems are showing up at the primaries, combined with the fact that so many of the independents are choosing to vote dem in this primary...
I think the dem will win. I think the system wants a dem to win anyway. Bush got the oil and the bases, but the world hates us and our domestic economy sucks. Let a dem be the bad guy for 4 years - raise taxes to fix the recession, and kiss ass worldwide so the US doesn't stat being exempted from global business. We need a clinton or obama to 'say sorry' for all the lootin' that's been going on for 8 years.
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If you're referring to the subprime mortgage mess, the "foreclosed folks" have no one but themselves to blame. They all took out loans they couldn't afford to buy big houses they couldn't afford so they could impress their friends and live a lifestyle they hadn't earned. In the process they almost sunk the American banking industry, and they still may when all the chicken from this fiasco come home to roost.
Yep. Everybody got greedy and thought they could live in a mansion above their means, ot they could buy a 2nd home to re-sell.
You only have 310 million Americans living here, and the population ain't growing that much. You'd think some of the buyers would have realized there wasn't going to be anyone to buy their 2nd home. And the rate was dropped to save things after 911. Did the ppl really believe it would never go back up when they got adjustable rates?
Stupid people who thought "it'll always be this great" with the 2002 rates.
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Holla at playa ;)
TEAM Will Harris!!
Yeah, yeah. We know.
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no ,,the florida has little to do with the nomination ,,it will be better if mccain win it to secure the nomination 100% but even with out florida mccain will be the nominee simply because he has the most experience and record of a tue leader ,,true war hero ,,true navigator,,true thinker,,true independent ,,true in your face real talk ,,very similar to gh15 by the way! so the florida can contribute a lot but its not a must ,,ofcourse it will nail everything and wrap everything if mccain get a win in the state of florida usa
McCain needs florida... the media is pushing Romney to win FL, and if he does, it'll be an uphill battle for mccain to win the nomination.
I like mcCain, and I wouldn't mind seeing him win, assuming he'd admit the economy is in trouble, which he won't yet do :( He's still appealing to the repub base, who refuses to believe their DOW holdings will ever go below 12k again. Idiots.
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He's still appealing to the repub base, who refuses to believe their DOW holdings will ever go below 12k again. Idiots.
The smart money moved to short positions before the first of the year. The base are the "buy & hold" idiots from middle America... fuck 'em! ;)
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Daughter of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, Caroline Bouvier Kennedy. Has just endorsed Barak Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tell me Matt, what is it that makes you support Obama?
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Presidents are selected, not elected. Whoever wins will be part of a broader picture.
Looking back in the history of the world, which immoral decisions ultimately turned out to be for the greatest long term good? No doubt there are plenty of examples. Can any historians here point a few out? Where is Historian Yates?
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Tell me Matt, what is it that makes you support Obama?
Obama will fix it so he and Will can finally marry! ;D
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Presidents are selected, not elected. Whoever wins will be part of a broader picture.
Looking back in the history of the world, which immoral decisions ultimately turned out to be for the greatest long term good? No doubt there are plenty of examples. Can any historians here point a few out? Where is Historian Yates?
Immoral by what definition? Christianity? Satanism? Utilitarianism?
Until you define a universal standard for right and wrong, it's hard to decide what's been done that's "bad" for the greater good.
Countries make decisions everyday to manipulate, strongarm, bully, and intimidate each other. Sometimes they just plain rob and kill one another. Whether it's survival of the fittest, or the wrong thing to do, depends on the rubric you employ.
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The smart money moved to short positions before the first of the year. The base are the "buy & hold" idiots from middle America... fuck 'em! ;)
Newsflash. You're middle America, goat. You're no Lloyd Blankfein or whoever else it is you fantasize about. And give me a break with the smart money. The smart money (for the most part) took a bath, and is hoping that someone with liquidity is going to bail their sorry asses out. The fuckin CEO of Merrill Lynch couldn't keep his fuckin job, and here you are, talking about the "smart money."
And dont' bust out with some 240 shit. "You've never even heard of the real smart money."
And save it with the private equity shit. I've heard that one before too.
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Newsflash. You're middle America, goat. You're no Lloyd Blankfein or whoever else it is you fantasize about. And give me a break with the smart money. The smart money (for the most part) took a bath, and is hoping that someone with liquidity is going to bail their sorry asses out. The fuckin CEO of Merrill Lynch couldn't keep his fuckin job, and here you are, talking about the "smart money."
That's becuase you can't just dump hundreds of millions of dollars worth of positions without driving the prices down by the very act of you doing it. There isn't unlimited liquidity out there. It's a lot easier to do when you're just playing around with a few hundred thousand as a hobby like I do. I sold all my long stocks after christmas, and took short positions in financials and tech, all of which have made money while the market was falling. Oh, and the CEO of Merrill got sacked over their exposure to CDO's backed by bad mortgages, not stock market investments... in the future, at least try to know what the hell you're talking about. ::)
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That's becuase you can't just dump hundreds of millions of dollars worth of positions without driving the prices down by the very act of you doing it. There isn't unlimited liquidity out there. It's a lot easier to do when you're just playing around with a few hundred thousand as a hobby like I do. I sold all my long stocks after christmas, and took short positions in financials and tech, all of which have made money while the market was falling. Oh, and the CEO of Merrill got sacked over their exposure to CDO's backed by bad mortgages, not stock market investments... in the future, at least try to know what the hell you're talking about. ::)
So you and your few hundred thousand are the smart money? ;D ;D ::)
And don't try to throw in stock market investments. You just said the smart money was short and didn't specify what kind of securities. IIRC, Merrill, like several of its peers, was short on CDOs last year. They just didn't expect the fall to be as drastic as it was.
So you get off your hobby horse and go play the smartass with someone else.
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Oh, I forgot. ::)
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Immoral by what definition? Christianity? Satanism? Utilitarianism?
Until you define a universal standard for right and wrong, it's hard to decide what's been done that's "bad" for the greater good.
Countries make decisions everyday to manipulate, strongarm, bully, and intimidate each other. Sometimes they just plain rob and kill one another. Whether it's survival of the fittest, or the wrong thing to do, depends on the rubric you employ.
For the purpose of this argument, define morality strictly as consenting activity between adults. Meaning, coercion is immoral, along the lines of a libertarian framework. 8)
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For the purpose of this argument, define morality strictly as consenting activity between adults. Meaning, coercion is immoral, along the lines of a libertarian framework. 8)
Thanks for the definition, So-crates. Now run along and go discuss Jay Cutler's striations.
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Thanks for the definition, So-crates. Now run along and go discuss Jay Cutler's striations.
I didn't say that was the definition, merely the definition for the sake of this example.
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Holla at playa ;)
TEAM OBAMA!!
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OBAMA IS A REBUBLICAN DREAM!!!
They will do everything in their power to get him as the Dem candidate.
Their money would be better spent campaining for him than themself.
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OBAMA IS A REBUBLICAN DREAM!!!
That's true. Why do people polarize US politics? It's all organized crime. Just call the Republicans the Genoveses and the Democrats the Gambinos. :-\
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never heard of this guy obama but he must be quite the bodybuilder since this thread is 5 pages on bodybuilding gossip & opinions
The G&O needs more mods to cover 24/7.
I would have send this to the politics board, it doesn't belong here.
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The G&O needs more mods to cover 24/7.
I would have send this to the politics board, it doesn't belong here.
people have lives on saturday nights :)
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people have lives on saturday nights :)
You have never heard of Time-Zones? ::)
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And dont' bust out with some 240 shit. "You've never even heard of the real smart money."
Nah, while I enjoy CTs, I've never been one to get all whiny about "the hidden trillions of mysterious families". That stuff is weird, unprovable, and frankly boring to me.
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Nah, while I enjoy CTs, I've never been one to get all whiny about "the hidden trillions of mysterious families". That stuff is weird, unprovable, and frankly boring to me.
tell them that you invest real heavy in baby food..now that is a smart investment ;D
how old is "baby 240" now?
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tell them that you invest real heavy in baby food..now that is a smart investment ;D
how old is "baby 240" now?
and all the other gimmicks :-X
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and all the other gimmicks :-X
240 doesn't have any gimmicks
I mean after all "Ihateeffincardio" is more of sentiment not an actual gimmick :)
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Lol. The blacks are clearly voting on the basis of the skin color of the candidates, yet we're the ones who are "not progressive". ::)
Whoa whoa whoa - what % of voting age Blacks even voted??
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Who cares if the Kennedys endorse Obama. They have as much influence and power over the DNC as the Queen of England over the parliament.
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OBAMA IS A REBUBLICAN DREAM!!!
They will do everything in their power to get him as the Dem candidate.
Their money would be better spent campaining for him than themself.
For once I agree with you,
The stats were pretty sad at the end of the day, more than 80% of the black vote to Obama, black Mayors publicly standing behind Obama because he was also black.
A race, Race.
DKF, I agree the hate amongst politicians is retarded, but Kennedy et al know they can use and manipulate Obama like all hell
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wow...such political experts on this site. you knowledge of the inner workings of the political parties is astonishing!
hahaha.
none of you chumps has ever even worked in politics.
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wow...such political experts on this site. you knowledge of the inner workings of the political parties is astonishing!
hahaha.
none of you chumps has ever even worked in politics.
do you still belive obama doesnt take millions of dollars from lobbyists?
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That's true. Why do people polarize US politics? It's all organized crime. Just call the Republicans the Genoveses and the Democrats the Gambinos. :-\
That's true. Why do people polarize US politics? It's all organized crime. Just call the Republicans the Genoveses and the Democrats the Gambinos. :-\
EXACTLY.
You and I need to team up and write a book on this, man.
This Bush Administration has operated like nothing more than a common street gang in fancier suits.
Wake up, America.
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Nah, while I enjoy CTs...
Why are people at all surprised that the Kennedy family is supporting Obama instead of Hillary?
That bitch killed John-John!!!
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very exciting. imagine how much america could change for the better if obama gets the nomination...im getting chills just thinking about it..
What exactly will he change..whats different. I'd like to see a coherent argument for why this guy is any different then Hil or Edwards.
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Mccain has more time in a POW camp then Obama has in Congress....this guy is a lightweight. No substance at all. He says change..they all say change....whats he going to change. He'll raise taxes...create more hand-out programs...lib us to death. Of u vote Ron Paul u will get change or atleast an attempt. I'm going Mccain because he'll rebuild or military and he understands foreign policy. If u go with Obama, u get an idiot appeasment Lib who will continue the Bush..spend us death policy, while appeasing our enemies into another 911. He's Carter all over again. I don't see a Reagan to save us after he's done either.
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Mccain has more time in a POW camp then Obama has in Congress.....
Wow!!!!!! I've changed my mind....McCain definitely should be president with such awesome preparatory experience.
The Viet Cong rival Kennedy School of Government when it comes to prepping future leaders of the free world.
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Why are people at all surprised that the Kennedy family is supporting Obama instead of Hillary?
That bitch killed John-John!!!
Another nugget of wisdom from the great mind.
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Mccain has more time in a POW camp then Obama has in Congress....this guy is a lightweight. No substance at all. He says change..they all say change....whats he going to change. He'll raise taxes...create more hand-out programs...lib us to death. Of u vote Ron Paul u will get change or atleast an attempt. I'm going Mccain because he'll rebuild or military and he understands foreign policy. If u go with Obama, u get an idiot appeasment Lib who will continue the Bush..spend us death policy, while appeasing our enemies into another 911. He's Carter all over again. I don't see a Reagan to save us after he's done either.
invading pakistan without prior consent is an "appeasement lib"...?? pres of harvard law review is an idiot..???
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do you still belive obama doesnt take millions of dollars from lobbyists?
that's what he believes?
Wow, guess he does not know that he meet with comcast and you want to talk about big brother approaching and telling you what to watch ...... watch for Obama
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I can show u plenty of highly educated folks who have'nt the faintest clue...degree does not equal smart. He's going to be the Commander in Chief of the United States not the lawyer in chief. He has made many mistakes with statements as regards foreign policy. Invading Pakistan, using or not using nukes etc etc are all comments this guy has made that show he's not ready. He is no different then Hil or Edwards so based on ur last post i want u to show me how he will change things. I know every postion and vote this guy has made...and I fully understand his postion. There are plenty of sites that graph out how he has voted and all his postions. He generally falls in line with the Libs and is more Liberal the Hil. If u want change there are two guys...Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinch. I don't agree with all of RP's positions..actually only one real disagreement..and i regard Kucinch as a nut..but they would enact real change...Obama is Black and has an odd name...besides that?
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wow...such political experts on this site. you knowledge of the inner workings of the political parties is astonishing!
hahaha.
none of you chumps has ever even worked in politics.
hahahahaha, as if you do. ::) tell us all about your experience George Stephanopolous.
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Exactly....How many campaigns have u worked on. Ive worked on two, democratic before i knew better. State and Federal level. That really doesn't matter anyway....Obama is for change...whats he going to do exactly.
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Exactly....How many campaigns have u worked on. Ive worked on two, democratic before i knew better. State and Federal level. That really doesn't matter anyway....Obama is for change...whats he going to do exactly.
Right. He isn't going to change anything. He's a typical big government liberal with new clothes.
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All right, geniuses (I'll let you figure out who you are, as there are too many of you).
For starters, you say that Obama has no experience. A lightweight. Then you say that you've already got him figured out from his track record. So where did he get this track record?
Please, if you're going to act like you know something, do try to be consistent.
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\He'll raise taxes...create more hand-out programs...lib us to death.
who do you think is going to pay for McCain's wars? Aliens?
bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. ::)
WHo do you think will pay for Bush's wars? Taxes are going to go up inevitably. It's called debt service.
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I'm going Mccain because he'll rebuild or military and he understands foreign policy.
Rebuild our military with what money, O tax guru?
ANd he understands foreign policy because he was a POW?
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I can show u plenty of highly educated folks who have'nt the faintest clue...degree does not equal smart. He's going to be the Commander in Chief of the United States not the lawyer in chief. He has made many mistakes with statements as regards foreign policy. Invading Pakistan, using or not using nukes etc etc are all comments this guy has made that show he's not ready. Obama is Black and has an odd name...besides that?
Does McCain even know what he's about? Have you been following the things this man has done in the last year and a half? He doesn't know whether he's coming or going. The only reason he's ahead right now is b/c somebody told him to zip it .....and his main rivals are a Mormon and pro-choicer.
And about the foreign policy/nuclear issues. Maybe you've heard of the Lugar-Obama legislation? Do you know what it deals with? Do you know how the legislation was written?
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Well his record can be found online..there are several comprehensive sites....thats how I found them...they also have his position on everything. They have all the candidates...so no big mystery. Mccains wars...they aren't Mccains wars ..they will be our mistakes if we don't elimanate threats. Appease today and glow tommorrow. He's not planning on invading Iran on the ground..so forget that as an argument. As far as the Obama track record..there isn't much actually....he missed 37 percent of the votes. He voted present for an number of them..and the rest he voted the Dem part line.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/key-votes/
Mccain..Naval academy grad...Pilot during Vietnam...Retired 06 (Captain)
Been in congress since 82, Armed services committe since 87'
Yeah he's qualified..especially given our current circumstances.
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Lugar-Obama (conventional weapons threat reduction) I'm having a nosebleed...who's going to enforce that..I guess by wishful thinking..oh yeah we have to be there to enforce it..we have to have a strong military. U asked earlier how are military will get rebuilt...well I don't care where the cash comes from..start slashin the budget. Thats the most important thing we need to spend on right now.
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Well his record can be found online..there are several comprehensive sites....thats how I found them...they also have his position on everything. They have all the candidates...so no big mystery. Mccains wars...they aren't Mccains wars ..they will be our mistakes if we don't elimanate threats. Appease today and glow tommorrow. He's not planning on invading Iran on the ground..so forget that as an argument. As far as the Obama track record..there isn't much actually....he missed 37 percent of the votes. He voted present for an number of them..and the rest he voted the Dem part line.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/key-votes/
Mccain..Naval academy grad...Pilot during Vietnam...Retired 06 (Captain)
Been in congress since 82, Armed services committe since 87'
Yeah he's qualified..especially given our current circumstances.
I prefer McCain to Romney, although I suspect he will not come up with an acceptable (to US) vision for Iraq either, and continue the Bush muddling around.
However, McCain is a man of his generation for the most part. I like that Obama's just out of diapers as somebody put it. I want somebody just out of diapers because I'm not happy with how the baby boomers and their predecessors handled things. I'm counting on Obama's youth and "outsider" status, and I hope that if he becomes president, he does not lose that. (Probably a pipe dream). It is for these reasons that I do not want Hillary. My grandmother, as I mentioned before, ran out and voted for Hillary early. That alone is reason for me to suspect her ;D
If Obama raises taxes, I'm fine with it. I make more money than the average American, and will probably bear a larger burden, but that's fine. There are things this administration has dropped the ball on, and I'm willing to pay more taxes in the hope that the next one does not.
McCain, as you pointed out, has been on important committees forever, and guess what? He helped develop the particular set of problems we face today, and he has articulated no persuasive solutions. So, as far as I'm concerned, his "experience" is a drawback.
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Exactly....How many campaigns have u worked on. Ive worked on two, democratic before i knew better. State and Federal level. That really doesn't matter anyway....Obama is for change...whats he going to do exactly.
I predict a huge change in America's approach to foreign policy decision-making, where diplomacy would be used to re-elevate this country to the position of 'leader of the free world', a position that would be respected by the entire world, not just those countries we're able to bully around.
I'm not saying that he's the next coming of Ronald Reagan, but he certainly gets us moving in that direction, something that cannot be said for Hillary.
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Lugar-Obama (conventional weapons threat reduction) I'm having a nosebleed...who's going to enforce that..I guess by wishful thinking..oh yeah we have to be there to enforce it..we have to have a strong military. U asked earlier how are military will get rebuilt...well I don't care where the cash comes from..start slashin the budget. Thats the most important thing we need to spend on right now.
The point I was trying to make is that he travelled and did a significant amount of research for that legislation.
You think 2-3 million foreclosed families will allow defense spending to be a priority?
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who do you think is going to pay for McCain's wars? Aliens?
bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. ::)
WHo do you think will pay for Bush's wars? Taxes are going to go up inevitably. It's called debt service.
Question: Because of the huge cost of Bush's War (which we haven't begun to pay on yet), should we let the White House stay in Republican hands? That is, let the next Republican president clean up the mess Bush has made?
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He's a Lib so forget the Reagan anology, he was about strength. Thats almost offensive. Obama will screw us harder then hell if he tries to appease these people. They look at diplomacy as weakness, it will give them a break and allow them to regroup.
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Defense spending will always be a priority..always. We need new aircraft, a new fleet of light vehicles, new refuelers, new Littoral naval craft...new subs....replacemnets or upgrades for the F-15 and F-16..new family of small arms replacing the M-16. We need alot and we will have to get some out of the next president.
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Question: Because of the huge cost of Bush's War (which we haven't begun to pay on yet), should we let the White House stay in Republican hands? That is, let the next Republican president clean up the mess Bush has made?
None of them have indicated any willingness to clear up his mess. Someone's got to raise taxes and articulate meaningful objectives for the increased revenue, and no one's shown any desire to do that on the Republican side. Romney might,,,, but both he and McCain have become extremely slippery in the last year or so, so who knows?
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He's a Lib so forget the Reagan anology, he was about strength. Thats almost offensive. Obama will screw us harder then hell if he tries to appease these people. They look at diplomacy as weakness, it will give them a break and allow them to regroup.
John Wayne's days are long gone. And tbh, we can't strong-arm Russia now, and China in the near future.
What leverage do we have other than strengthening our economy and developing a united western front?
Do you think about these things?
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Defense spending will always be a priority..always. We need new aircraft, a new fleet of light vehicles, new refuelers, new Littoral naval craft...new subs....replacemnets or upgrades for the F-15 and F-16..new family of small arms replacing the M-16. We need alot and we will have to get some out of the next president.
Anybody who's spent any time in Washington knows the importance of defense spending. I really doubt anybody could be more frivolous in its spending than the current administration.
You want to talk about appeasement, talk about this regime and the "Iraqi government."
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If u look at the new list of changes proposed to Nato by a review board made up of former officers from the US/France and GB..they propose just that. Nato will and must re acert herself or be disbanded. China and Russia are now and will remaina threat. Both countries are caught between national pride and cold hard cash. China cannot afford a war between Iran and the US. Russia wants stronger ties with Europe but has problems with Asia and is playing with Iran. I want whats in our best interest. We need to get our economics in order...who wouldn't.
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Sure Bush has spent us into a hole. The next president needs to undertake a comprehensive look at the Services, get real advice...not from Lib morons....and decide where to get the most bang for the buck. He also can't listen to Rep defense sector folks....otherwise we'll end up with high tech crap that nobody wants and doesn't work. We need to do what Reagan did....we got the F-14/F-15/F-16 B-1/M1 Humvee..the list is endless. We got very lucky ata great time. Rummy and his high tech crap have been less successful.
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John Wayne's days are long gone. And tbh, we can't strong-arm Russia now, and China in the near future.
What leverage do we have other than strengthening our economy and developing a united western front?
Do you think about these things?
You're spot-on.
How long have you been posting here?
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I've been here for a long time. This screen-name is three-four years old.
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Bush just said he's sending an 18 Billion budget cut to Congress..lets see what happens.
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Bush just said he's sending an 18 Billion budget cut to Congress..lets see what happens.
Bush made a helluva speech tonite...sounded great, Presidential even.
(separate thread, I know, but figgered I'd give props where due)
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hahahahaha, as if you do. ::) tell us all about your experience George Stephanopolous.
;) dont worry about it.
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Exactly....How many campaigns have u worked on. Ive worked on two, democratic before i knew better. State and Federal level. That really doesn't matter anyway....Obama is for change...whats he going to do exactly.
oh my gosh..you have volunteered on two different campaigns??!! what power you must wield! ;D ;D
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My point is what qualifies u beyond internet access, to know the inner workings of politics. Ur what 16 or 17? And u try and lecture some of us on how things work. ::)
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:) no you are absolutely right..you and your two experiences VOLUNTEERING on CAMPAIGNS really dwarfs any experience i could possibly have.
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Ur a kid who gets his info off the net...what experiance do u have...list it. Volunteered for a dem candidate...debate team...family member in politics..if ur going to make statements I would expect u to back it up. My experiance in two elections doesn't qualify me.. its all the other things I've done and seen..but at ur age thats what i had done..so I'm asking the question...