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Good job, give yourself a pat on the back ;D
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If he doesn't win the nomination, it's going to be the fault of douches like you. >:(
Do you actually think someone on here is going to be all "Hey MattT likes obama, maybe I should consider him."?
Shut your trap, douchebag, and do us a favor.
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Good job, give yourself a pat on the back ;D
And here I was figuring you'd have voted for a white candidate. ;D
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And here I was figuring you'd have voted for a white candidate. ;D
Who did/will you vote for, McFarland? Are you still a Southern Man?
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If OJ were running for president, you know Matt would vote for him.
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Who did/will you vote for, McFarland? Are you still a Southern Man?
I don't follow politics that much but it's been suggested to me that Hillary and Obama could actually run together as president/vice president...if that were to happen, who do you think they'd agree should be president, and which would be vice? I think it's a pretty interesting question but like I said, I'm not even sure it would be a possibility but if it is what do you guys think? Their winning would make their White House occupancy hugely historically-significant, having both the first black and woman in those positions, but which do you think would be viewed more appropriate? Obama being Hillary's bitch or vice-versa? ;D
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I don't follow politics that much but it's been suggested to me that Hillary and Obama could actually run together as president/vice president...if that were to happen, who do you think they'd agree should be president, and which would be vice? I think it's a pretty interesting question but like I said, I'm not even sure it would be a possibility but if it is what do you guys think? It would make it hugely historically-significant, having both a black and a woman in those positions, but which do you think would be viewed more appropriate? Obama being Hillary's bitch or vice-versa? ;D
It won't happen, because neither wants to play second fiddle. Hillary did it for Bill, the other "natural." And Obama knows that Bill will be vice, no matter what. This will be a struggle to the end, and there will be too much bad blood for them to be on the same ticket. Also, the power-brokers know that it would be a sure way to lose the election.
So, you're not a voting man, McFarland?
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Their winning would make their White House occupancy hugely historically-significant, having both the first black and woman in those positions, but which do you think would be viewed more appropriate? Obama being Hillary's bitch or vice-versa?
So you think people should vote to make an historical impact? ::)
Policies anyone? ???
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It won't happen, because neither wants to play second fiddle. Hillary did it for Bill, the other "natural." And Obama knows that Bill will be vice, no matter what. This will be a struggle to the end, and there will be too much bad blood for them to be on the same ticket. Also, the power-brokers know that it would be a sure way to lose the election.
So, you're not a voting man, McFarland?
I'm not, actually. Do you think that a bad thing? Serious question; I don't have a strong opinion either way really.
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HOW IS OBAMA GOING TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY ??? ??? ???
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HOW IS OBAMA GOING TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY ??? ??? ???
He's gonna make grape soda mandatory for school lunches.
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I'm not, actually. Do you think that a bad thing? Serious question; I don't have a strong opinion either way really.
If you don't have a strong opinion after having done some research, that's not a bad thing. But being apathetic towards the process is, especially if its for reasons like "I have just one vote, why does it matter?" if you have any conviction, you can have quite an impact on people you encounter. Help a movement reach its "tipping point"
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so he's going to increase spending? ;D
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It won't happen, because neither wants to play second fiddle.
Obama is still young. If Hilary wins the nomination, Obama would accept the VP. But Hilary wouldn't accept the position as she has a lot of seniority in the senate. Edwards would be a logical choice for Obama.
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Obama is still young. If Hilary wins the nomination, Obama would accept the VP. But Hilary wouldn't accept the position as she has a lot of seniority in the senate. Edwards would be a logical choice for Obama.
No.
Obama doesn't want to play second fiddle to Bill Clinton as VP, and Hillary would not want her running mate to outshine her in the general election campaign.
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I do think Obama's gonna end up winning but that has nothing to do with my personal opinions; although at this point I don't think I'd mind if he won. I think Hillary's winning might be the death of her...she looks so tired and I don't wanna see a woman in a position to be everyone's scapegoat on everything that happens with the country.
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Obama is still young. If Hilary wins the nomination, Obama would accept the VP. But Hilary wouldn't accept the position as she has a lot of seniority in the senate. Edwards would be a logical choice for Obama.
there will be more bad blood before it's all said and done, so she might not offer. Also, her advisors know that she is already a polarizing figure, and to put a woman/black ticket out there is going to aggravate that problem. So, Edwards is actually the one who is sitting pretty....got some candidates to give, got out of a somewhat acrimonious campaign early...
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MattT and canziddle have both endorsed Obama.
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So you think people should vote to make an historical impact? ::)
Policies anyone? ???
hahaha
this is soo sad.
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MattT and canziddle have both endorsed Obama.
What does your Paki ass have against Obama? STFU if you have nothing constructive to say.
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MattT and canziddle have both endorsed Obama.
Well Obama does admit to having done coke... ;D
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What does your Paki ass have against Obama? STFU if you have nothing constructive to say.
lol can't go one post without a racist meltdown.
I have nothing against him. I just want a libertarian candidate with good policies.
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I think there will be more bad blood before it's all said and done, so she might not offer.
didn't you see the Hollywood debate last week? It was a love fest. that was not an accident
Also, her advisors know that she is already a polarizing figure, and to put a woman/black ticket out there is going to aggravate that problem.
I think just the opposite. Obama on the ticket would give minorities a reason not to stay home. On the Republican side, though, one or two of the factions (theocons, neocons, paleocons) will not support who ever wins the nomination.
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I wanna hear what onemorerep thinks about Hillary and Obama on the same ticket.
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guys hillary has already promised the vp spot on her ticket away to the son of one of her biggest supporters...its some young representative from the south. i think it was georgia.
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It won't happen, because neither wants to play second fiddle. Hillary did it for Bill, the other "natural." And Obama knows that Bill will be vice, no matter what. This will be a struggle to the end, and there will be too much bad blood for them to be on the same ticket. Also, the power-brokers know that it would be a sure way to lose the election.
So, you're not a voting man, McFarland?
I voted for Obama and he just won here in Ga.
I agree and suspect NM Gov Bill Richardson will be a top choice for the VP for dems.
The ticket of Hillary / Obama or vice versa is attractive to dems and moderates but would not help in the key sothwest and some midwest states.
Howard
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Obama is still young. If Hilary wins the nomination, Obama would accept the VP. But Hilary wouldn't accept the position as she has a lot of seniority in the senate. Edwards would be a logical choice for Obama.
...not American myself, but I would have thought Ralph Nader would be a good choice for Obama's VP/running-mate. It would certainly prevent the Democrat vote splitting that (arguably) cost the Democrats the last presidential election.
Maybe John Edwards for Attorney General.
If I was Obama, I'd pick Michael Moore as my VP... wouldn't have any Neo-Cons/Klan-boys attempting to assassinate my black ass if they thought they'd get Michael Moore instead.
The Luke
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If I was Obama, I'd pick Michael Moore as my VP... wouldn't have any Neo-Cons/Klan-boys attempting to assassinate my black ass if they thought they'd get Michael Moore instead.
The Luke
All right, this is the second time I've seen something like this. I think the first one was from the Vegas dumbass that goes on about roids.
Nobody's gunning for Obama any more than they are for Hillary or Romney.... he's not a polarizing figure like Jesse Jackson or Sharpton, who would not have gotten this far, and if they did, you could bet there would be rumblings.
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guys hillary has already promised the vp spot on her ticket away to the son of one of her biggest supporters...its some young representative from the south. i think it was georgia.
who? who?
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I voted for Obama and he just won here in Ga.
I agree and suspect NM Gov Bill Richardson will be a top choice for the VP for dems.
The ticket of Hillary / Obama or vice versa is attractive to dems and moderates but would not help in the key sothwest and some midwest states.
Howard
Good job, Howie. Now the question is whether California will continue to be progressive, or whether it will hold us back. If Obama's within striking distance of Hillary, that's a victory for him.
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Good job, Howie. Now the question is whether California will continue to be progressive, or whether it will hold us back. If Obama's within striking distance of Hillary, that's a victory for him.
It won't be over tonight due to the % of delgates pledges = the overall % of the vote, etc.
It will be close that is for sure.
I am excited that we will get an outsanding president , compared to Bush hehehe.
Obviously I prefer Obama and Hillary based on my politics at present. I have a feeling the Bill Richardson is on top of the short list for dem VP.I feel that Ron Paul was a GREAT caniadate, liked some of Romney's economic stands and have a huge respect for the character of John McCain.
The BIG thing is that reagrdless of who wins in Nov, the country is headed in a better direction with any of the front runners in either party taking charge and sending Bushy back to Texas
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I will move to Canada if Clinton gets elected.
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didn't you see the Hollywood debate last week? It was a love fest. that was not an accident
I think just the opposite. Obama on the ticket would give minorities a reason not to stay home. On the Republican side, though, one or two of the factions (theocons, neocons, paleocons) will not support who ever wins the nomination.
latino men and women will NOT vote for obama and either will I haha
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latino men and women will NOT vote for obama and either will I haha
Why not? ???
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I do think Obama's gonna end up winning but that has nothing to do with my personal opinions; although at this point I don't think I'd mind if he won. I think Hillary's winning might be the death of her...she looks so tired and I don't wanna see a woman in a position to be everyone's scapegoat on everything that happens with the country.
Unfortunately, this will be why the republicans may keep the power position. Some just can't accept a woman and others can't accept a black man to run this country.
Mcain will just keep the Bush doctrine rolling full steam ahead.
Since Karl Rove introduced fear, divide and conquer as the way of modern politics, those who can't reason for themselves will follow as the sheep that they are.
Sandra
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they both suck.
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Unfortunately, this will be why the republicans may keep the power position. Some just can't accept a woman and others can't accept a black man to run this country.
Mcain will just keep the Bush doctrine rolling full steam ahead.
Since Karl Rove introduced fear, divide and conquer as the way of modern politics, those who can't reason for themselves will follow as the sheep that they are.
Sandra
youre pretty smart.
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latino men and women will NOT vote for obama and either will I haha
Really? I thought obama had the gay vote??? ???
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Why not? ???
mrs clinton is tough and i'm not sure obama is.
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so he's going to increase spending? ;D
How could he? Military spending is already through the roof, at the expense, sadly, of education and health care. i know you young libertarians love Paul's idea of small government, but don't kid yourself and think that the government can't do things well when run by the right people. after all, every other industrialized nation has universal health care and it works famously (remember the US is in the high 30s in the health care rankings despite having possibly the best doctors).
obama will, if he even follows through on half his promises, bring about a new openness to government that we've sadly lacked. i would have preferred dodd or kucinich, but obama is our best bet now not just for his policies but his idea of how government should work in general.
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Really? I thought obama had the gay vote??? ???
wrong zipper face
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I don't follow politics that much but it's been suggested to me that Hillary and Obama could actually run together as president/vice president...if that were to happen, who do you think they'd agree should be president, and which would be vice? I think it's a pretty interesting question but like I said, I'm not even sure it would be a possibility but if it is what do you guys think? Their winning would make their White House occupancy hugely historically-significant, having both the first black and woman in those positions, but which do you think would be viewed more appropriate? Obama being Hillary's bitch or vice-versa? ;D
Its a pretty fucked up ticket...Two very first for a country...And if they both get taken out, just who would be waiting in the wings? Who ever the speaker of the house would be at the time...
If you watch how much being the president ages a person, I don't think McCain would make in past a couple of years...The guy is like 100 and after his first year, he would be going on 110...His vice president will have to be someone substantial...I don't think i could vote for a guy who is already half way in the grave...
Some believe that whoever it is leading up to 2012...They will actually be satan himself/herself...Hiliary Clinton is supposedly a practicing witch...Nobody knows shit about Obama...The wild card is probably going to be McCain's vice president pick...Because of McCains gets in there and doesn't make it to 2012, His Vice president may just be satan...Some say that may just be Rudy G...Rudy G has fcking ice water in his viens...Complete robot and creepy to boot...
This Vortex is speeding up and the end is near...Truly an exciting time to live actually...
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Gonna take a lot to overcome the idiot population of California. >:(
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Gonna take a lot to overcome the idiot population of California. >:(
Wait until the delegates are awarded...I find it hard to believe that CA would be stupid enough to let certain Congressional districts have "too many" delegates.
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Wait until the delegates are awarded...I find it hard to believe that CA would be stupid enough to let certain Congressional districts have "too many" delegates.
Yup, still really close in terms of delagte numbers to pick a dem winner at this pt.
McCain looks like he will the be the eventual GOP winner however.
He may pick Huckabee to be his running mate for the southern vote, who knows?
Funny how some will blast Hillary on stupid stuff, but rarely talk on actual , concrete issues.
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they both suck.
Agreed; poor choices.
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The next president wont make a difference in terms of my education and/or bank account. The whole political system of the country needs to be reworked. Get rid of the party system because it's complete BS! Vote Non of the Above.
Thanks.
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wrong zipper face
Whats with the anger cock breath? ???
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He's gonna make grape soda mandatory for school lunches.
Grape soda?
What is he, a Dreadnok?
All we'll need then will be the chocolate donuts!
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The next president wont make a difference in terms of my education and/or bank account. The whole political system of the country needs to be reworked. Get rid of the party system because it's complete BS! Vote Non of the Above.
Thanks.
Not true when yo consider interst rates on student loans and loan forgiveness prgrams that both Obama and Hillary are for. The fed sets interst rates which determines what your investments make and what you pay for a house mortgage and the president appoints them
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Unfortunately, this will be why the republicans may keep the power position. Some just can't accept a woman and others can't accept a black man to run this country.
Mcain will just keep the Bush doctrine rolling full steam ahead.
Since Karl Rove introduced fear, divide and conquer as the way of modern politics, those who can't reason for themselves will follow as the sheep that they are.
Sandra
very true, good post.
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He's gonna make grape soda mandatory for school lunches.
they should mix a little creatine in there and then the U.S. will soon have a nation of absolute beasts.
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even if Billary wins by a nose, the demos have to know that
Bush part 2 McCain and the repubs would LOVE to run against Billary and would probably beat her. too many people cant stand her. the demos have to know that if they want to win the general they must nominate obama.
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Oh, you poor misinformed kids. Obama is no better than Clinton. At least we have a couple decent republicans to choose from for our next president.
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Where do you fit?
exit polls in the 16 primary states in which they were taken showed that the contours of the race as we've come to know them are still in place. Obama did well with African-Americans, men, the wealthy, those with college degrees, and liberal voters. Clinton continues to do well with women, older voters, Latinos, and those with less education and lower incomes. Inside those patterns, some shifts were visible. In recent national polls, Clinton's lead among women was 15 percentage points. Exit polls showed that her margin among women was only seven percentage points (though among white women, her margin was 20 percentage points). Obama also turned in strong performances among white male voters, picking up 40 percent in Georgia and almost 50 percent in California.
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Obama is hands down the phoniest "candidate" out there.
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Obama is hands down the phoniest "candidate" out there.
maybe he was a pro bodybuilder before?
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Obama is hands down the phoniest "candidate" out there.
yeah him with oprah ::)
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tyra banks is fucking gorgious.
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yeah him with oprah ::)
Was there something, pictureless fagggot/captain beirut? ROFLMAO.
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tyra banks is fucking gorgious.
impossible, she's black.
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tyra banks is fucking gorgious.
This thread is useless without pics.
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impossible, she's black.
hahahhaha
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Good job, give yourself a pat on the back ;D
;D
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Good job, give yourself a pat on the back ;D
What the fcuk are you talking about, you don't have a clue about what the guy's political platform is.
Everytime anyone ask you about what Obama politics are, you're mute.
So how could you even have an opinion on whether it's good or bad if he's winning? ::)
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Good job, give yourself a pat on the back ;D
Why?
No one can point anything he's done while in the senate to qualify him to be President.
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Why?
No one can point anything he's done while in the senate to qualify him to be President.
Try to explain that to Will Harris little "friend" from Canada. ::)
Or was it Dubai, India?
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Why?
No one can point anything he's done while in the senate to qualify him to be President.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4578207
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4578207
That is one scary off the deep left liberal record, McCain will beat him simply because Obama is is too far to the left. That record doesn't come close to qualifying him for Pres.
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That is one scary off the deep left liberal record, McCain will beat him simply because Obama is is too far to the left. That record doesn't come close to qualifying him for Pres.
people care more about being poor than some list/compiled record.
Mccain is more qualified, but he tied his horse to the bush tax policy.
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What the fcuk are you talking about, you don't have a clue about what the guy's political platform is.
Everytime anyone ask you about what Obama politics are, you're mute.
So how could you even have an opinion on whether it's good or bad if he's winning? ::)
Isn't it obvious? He and many others like Obama simply because he's an articulate black guy.
Calmus aside, who else can explain Obama's stances on issues? MattT sure as hell can't, and even if he could it wouldn't matter because he's in Canada. ::)
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Isn't it obvious? He and many others like Obama simply because he's an articulate black guy.
Calmus aside, who else can explain Obama's stances on issues? MattT sure as hell can't, and even if he could it wouldn't matter because he's in Canada. ::)
I personally think Obama is one of the best and articulate speakers I have ever heard in politics, but it's based no real substance. His cry for change is getting old, put anyone in there and there will be change, we just cannot have a socialist type of change.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4578207
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/docs/ObamaExposed.pdf
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Very nice, Coach! People need to realize this isn't voting for your prom king...
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I personally think Obama is one of the best and articulate speakers I have ever heard in politics, but it's based no real substance. His cry for change is getting old, put anyone in there and there will be change, we just cannot have a socialist type of change.
Can't believe that you and I agree! Of course he's all show with very little substance behind his policies.
But drones will simply endorse him because he's 'hip' hahahaha
Problem with voting someone in like Obama is that you don't honestly know what he'll pull once in the oval office.. Of course he seems better than McCain unless McCain makes a radical shift and distances himself from continuing Bush's policies.
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I personally think Obama is one of the best and articulate speakers I have ever heard in politics, but it's based no real substance. His cry for change is getting old, put anyone in there and there will be change, we just cannot have a socialist type of change.
...cause then America might end up like France; Norway; Sweden; Finland; Denmark; Japan; Canada; Ireland and all the other highly socialist, liberal, high tax, progressive, tolerant, well educated countries in the top ten of the UN Most Livable Countries list.
What is wrong with you Republicans? You all behave like mushrooms; happiest when kept in the dark and fed bullshit.
Do you guys even realise that Fox News is not impartial?
Do you know that Fox News can't be broadcast in most European countries because it fails to meet fairness in broadcasting regulations? Here in Ireland you have to subscribe via digital/satellite tv as the Irish government (along with many others) has ruled that Fox News is technically "propoganda"?
How's that for "fair and balanced"? Well, I've watched hundreds of hours of Fox News (in disbelief) while living in the US and I gotta say, such media bias explains much of American societal decline.
In the vast majority of European countries Bill O'Reilly; Sean Hannity; Rush Limbaugh; Ann Coulter and the like would be boycotted... and you wouldn't have to organise a boycott, the public simply wouldn't stand for such media manipulation.
In France, you remember France? The country that invented Freedom Fries; Freedom Cheese; Freedom Mustard; Freedom Dressing and all those other things (equality, freedom and democratic government)... Yeah, that France, that group of cheese eating surrender monkeys who have the best healthcare system in the world (which is also free), are completely independent of foreign oil, aren't fighting a hopeless war in the middle east and maintain a much higher standard of living than the US despite having a lower GDP... yeah, well in that France people like Bill O'Reilly go to jail for libel.
Now that's "fair and balanced".
Remember, Rupert Murdoch doesn't have your best interests at heart.
The Luke
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I personally think Obama is one of the best and articulate speakers I have ever heard in politics, but it's based no real substance. His cry for change is getting old, put anyone in there and there will be change, we just cannot have a socialist type of change.
First of all, Obama doesn't represent a socialist type of change. Nobody in either the Democrats or the Republican Party does.
That's not serious critisism of Obama.
If you hear that from anyone, you should ask him or her in what way Obama represents Socialism.
I think Obama looks to have a plan for how to get out of Iraq.
I also think I understand where he is on a few issues.
But I think you are correct in that he's being vague. He does not address what the next four years of President Obama will be like.
Eg, on his website, I found that he has a taxcut,
"Tax Cut for Working Families": Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family.
That sounds fine and dandy for all the families I'm sure, but there's not a word on how he is going to pay for that tax cut. Is he gonna pull those dollars out of a hat, or is he gonna expand on the national debt that Bush's been working on?
I will give him credit for this one though, one thing where he actually seems to have a plan with a funding strategy:
"Deploy Next-Generation Broadband: Obama believes we can get broadband to every community in America through a combination of reform of the Universal Service Fund, better use of the nation's wireless spectrum, promotion of next-generation facilities, technologies and applications, and new tax and loan incentives."
It's 2008. We need broadband everywhere.
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Im voting for Mccain cus GH15 says he will give us all the free steroids we want!! :-* As a tax return gh15 says we will get a nice cutting cycle for the summer ;D
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His cry for change is getting old, put anyone in there and there will be change, we just cannot have a socialist type of change.
Please define how Obama will bring socialism.
I think you're repeating keywords from Rush. If you think it's is healthcare, spell it out. Tell me why in the last superpower on earth, 1/6 of the population has no health insurance.
You call him a socialist, back it up joe.
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Joe, I hear you repeatedly throw out claims of 'weak on defense' and 'socialist' at Obama.
I don't think you have any facts to back it up.
I think you're just repeating phrases you hear on Rush every morning.
Tell us why Obama is weak on defense. Details, examples.
IMO you're a one-issue voter - taxes - and you are trying to convince others to vote your guy in based on FEAR. You're not a fearmonger, are you? I mean, you have facts to back up the claim, right?
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dude your love for the black men and your hate about yourself and your white appartenance is well known, years ago you were already acting like a wigger and worshiping black attitude constantly to the point everyone made fun of you.
It's ok, you hate yourself and that's why you hate the whites hence your deep desire of voting for a black man.
There's no doubt you are the kind of guy who would enjoy watching his girl being raped by black men and would then submit to them on your knees to be punished by your black master, but enough is enough with this self hate and denial.
I'm no obama fan. it has nothing to do with race.
it has to do with attacks on any candidates without the facts. If you read the political board, you know that I will argue anything and often take antagonistic views on any issue, and that I"m not happy with any candidate running. Obama doesn't hav experience but he does have decision making ability. hilary knows the ropes but she is in bed with spec interest groups. mccain is a strong leader but in the pocket of warmongers. Stop making it about race and hatred. I love the USA and want us to have leaders that will make the place better, not worse.
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I'm no obama fan. it has nothing to do with race.
it has to do with attacks on any candidates without the facts. If you read the political board, you know that I will argue anything and often take antagonistic views on any issue, and that I"m not happy with any candidate running. Obama doesn't hav experience but he does have decision making ability. hilary knows the ropes but she is in bed with spec interest groups. mccain is a strong leader but in the pocket of warmongers. Stop making it about race and hatred. I love the USA and want us to have leaders that will make the place better, not worse.
Hi Mrs. Obama
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Hi Mrs. Obama
Hi sgt. d
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Joe, I hear you repeatedly throw out claims of 'weak on defense' and 'socialist' at Obama.
I don't think you have any facts to back it up.
I think you're just repeating phrases you hear on Rush every morning.
Tell us why Obama is weak on defense. Details, examples.
IMO you're a one-issue voter - taxes - and you are trying to convince others to vote your guy in based on FEAR. You're not a fearmonger, are you? I mean, you have facts to back up the claim, right?
the main problem with barak hussain is that no one knows a damn thing about him ,,lots of rethoric,,its like gh15 ,,would you ever let gh15 be president of the usa ? gh15 like barak has name recognition yet no one knows who is what and what is who,,,all gh15 knows is that brak hussain is very similar in his votes in his 2 years in american senat to ted kenedy which is not a good start,,ofcourse anything is better than the demon but barak hussain just doesnt have a record behind him that can come to light in this troubling time in aamerican history,,,people are striving for a leader that can really take this country and all the risks waiting for this country and be able to deliver a strong leadership combined with independent thinking that can benefit the whole american people and the world,,,obama just doesnt have this experience as much as opra trying to sell him he dotn have it,,,i can not name even one accomplishment coming from obanma ,,hes pretty ok but no one can name one achievment coming out of this yuong man,,,then again its generation nothingness but i dont think generation nothingness is enough for winning main election only primary,,
it is very scary thought to even think of barak hussain rasing his hand up in the air coming jan 20 2009,,very scary thought,,he would fit in a vice president position due to his intelect but he is not ready for main jobsuch as this,,,NOT TO FORGET BUHS BURRIED THIS COUNTRY AND HE CAME LIKE OBAMA WITH NO RECORD SINCE HE WAS DOING NOTHING IN TX BUT BEING THE SON OF A FORMER PRESIDENT,,,BUSH HAD NO INTEREST AND HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE WORLD ,,OBAMA DOES SHOW SOME INTEREST BUT ATLEAST BUSH HAD THE FAMILTY CONNECTION AROUND THE WORLD AND KNEW LEADERS,,,IN OBAMA CASE HE COME WITH NOTHING AND NO EXPERIENCE AND THIS IS VERY VERY RISKY TO LET PUTIN CONTROL HIM,,,BOTH BUSH AND OBAMA DO NOT AND DIDNT NOT FIT THE JOB,,YOU DO NOT NEED ANOTHR BUSH WHEN IT COMES TO BEING GREEN AS IN NO EXPERIENCE WITH THE JOB!
iagain it is a very scary thought to think of him raising his hand jan 20 2009 but generation nothingness push hard and they are known to be very hard pushers due to the fact that generation nothingness relay on obama girl youtube media that like sad hapy stories,,left wingers who go crazy for ted kennedy in white house,,,it is a big problem for america that i believe will relveal itself in the general election,,
this s very bad time for tasking chances ,,this is diff than 1992 and obama is no clinton he had no terms as governor he is coming from nothingess,,HIGH HIGH RISK
i suggest you think hard and well all the left wingers and democrats ,,i syggest you thnk hard and well into your vote
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I'd vote for mccain except for one issue... he promises to keep thebush tax cuts and economic policy in place.
Bush borrowed 4.5 trillion in 7 years.
Bush cut taxes during times of prosperity - an economic NO-NO.
Bush cut taxes on oil companies during time of economic prosperity and record profits - a NO NO.
Bush cut taxes on the rich.
Now, in order to secure the nomination, Mccain had to promise to uphold the bush economic plan, one that many analysists believe has us in an official recession this month, and a depression if we hit a single speedbump.
The candidates are a wash on the war - they'll both let the generals make all the major calls. They're a wash on most other inconsequential issues. The only issue that concerns me is the economy. mccain promised to keep us on this same course - borrow from China to fund irresponsible spending while the rich folks in USA pay less taxes. It's not economically viable. It'll lead to a dollar depression which will cost these rich folks way more in overall portfolio loss than a simple 4% tax incresae would. They cannot see that though.
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why do people keep talking about the elections like it was an important thing !
what's more important: The future of america or the australian pro next week ?!?
8)
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why do people keep talking about the elections like it was an important thing !
what's more important: The future of america or the australian pro next week ?!?
8)
who's competing in it?
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I'd vote for mccain except for one issue... he promises to keep thebush tax cuts and economic policy in place.
Bush borrowed 4.5 trillion in 7 years.
Bush cut taxes during times of prosperity - an economic NO-NO.
Bush cut taxes on oil companies during time of economic prosperity and record profits - a NO NO.
Bush cut taxes on the rich.
Now, in order to secure the nomination, Mccain had to promise to uphold the bush economic plan, one that many analysists believe has us in an official recession this month, and a depression if we hit a single speedbump.
The candidates are a wash on the war - they'll both let the generals make all the major calls. They're a wash on most other inconsequential issues. The only issue that concerns me is the economy. mccain promised to keep us on this same course - borrow from China to fund irresponsible spending while the rich folks in USA pay less taxes. It's not economically viable. It'll lead to a dollar depression which will cost these rich folks way more in overall portfolio loss than a simple 4% tax incresae would. They cannot see that though.
follow mccain history and you will have no doubt about one thing
JOHN CIDNY MCCAIN IS INDEPENDENT WITH AS LIBERAL MOVES AS CONSERVATIVE ONES,,infact gh15 will describe mccain as a liberal frat boy in nature with the sharpness of a fighter pilot and belief of human rights and at the same time beleif of god,,
john mcain wether running as republican or as a third party nomineee would and will win this election ,,he is simply a democrat republican same as joe liberman,,it is the best this country has to offer,,,and many democrats will vote mccain this coming november
when you secure normination yu must talk to yuor base to some degree but mccain that could do a lot more to talk to his base did what it took the minimum it took and now he got rush and the others on board with out sacrificing any of his independence,,
get ready for a reagan/rosevelt type of president,,you will love it
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So you think people should vote to make an historical impact? ::)
Policies anyone? ???
Well said. He will be the first Pres to have no politcal exp.
Nothing like more taxes bigger govnt and smaller Military.
He is a Manchurion Candidate anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid or lieing to themselves.
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obama = socialism
socialism doesn't work
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First of all, Obama doesn't represent a socialist type of change. Nobody in either the Democrats or the Republican Party does.
That's not serious critisism of Obama.
If you hear that from anyone, you should ask him or her in what way Obama represents Socialism.
I think Obama looks to have a plan for how to get out of Iraq.
I also think I understand where he is on a few issues.
But I think you are correct in that he's being vague. He does not address what the next four years of President Obama will be like.
Eg, on his website, I found that he has a taxcut,
"Tax Cut for Working Families": Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family.
That sounds fine and dandy for all the families I'm sure, but there's not a word on how he is going to pay for that tax cut. Is he gonna pull those dollars out of a hat, or is he gonna expand on the national debt that Bush's been working on?
I will give him credit for this one though, one thing where he actually seems to have a plan with a funding strategy:
"Deploy Next-Generation Broadband: Obama believes we can get broadband to every community in America through a combination of reform of the Universal Service Fund, better use of the nation's wireless spectrum, promotion of next-generation facilities, technologies and applications, and new tax and loan incentives."
It's 2008. We need broadband everywhere.
I don't care who you are, if a dem is elected expect to pay more taxes, income or otherwise...
Obama wants to spend $150 billion on a green-energy plan. He wants to establish an infrastructure investment bank to the tune of $60 billion. He wants to expand health insurance by roughly $65 billion. He wants to 'reopen' trade deals, which is another way of saying he wants to raise the barriers to free trade. He intends to regulate the profits for drug companies, health insurers and energy firms. He wants to establish a mortage-interest tax credit. He wants to double the number of workers receiving the earned-income tax credit and triple this benefit for minimum-wage workers."
The Obama spend-o-meter is now up around $800 billion, and tax hikes on the rich won't pay for it. It's the middle class that will ultimately shoulder this fiscal burden in terms of higher taxes and lower growth.
Obama believes he can use government, and not free markets, to drive the economy. Obama's program is anti-growth. A President Obama would steer us in the social-market direction of Western Europe, which has produced only stagnant economies down through the years. It's all on his website for the world to see.... No disrespect Hedge, just pointing out what kind of "change" Obama is preaching. The answer is a free market, a flat income tax for everyone, control of Government spending, and NOT SOCIALISM of any kind.
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If he doesn't win the nomination, it's going to be the fault of douches like you. >:(
ifr he does not get a nomination..i'm voting repb!
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as for the economy....plain n simple..its bushes fault..u CANNOT sink 2 bil/week into a war for years and not expect a recession..thats just silly to think otherwise..
and the nexdt prez won be able to fix bushes mess and will get blamed for it..the repbs will see 2 that
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I'd love to see Matt
STinkorang explain why he's all over Obama's cock.
He's yet to give us one reason why he's so in love with the man.
I can imagine MattStingutang watching Obama on TV the first time:
Yeah! He looks cool! Or something.
Wow!
Yeah, wow!!
He kinda looks like a cool basketball player, or a cool movie star, yeah... cool. uhh..
wait...I need to wash my mouth, too much of Worldly protein leftovers...
...but this is so cool, I always wanted someone like Obama, I wonder if he likes to wear FUBU and Tommy Hilfiger, just like me?
MattT, you fcuking douchebag.
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I'd vote for mccain except for one issue... he promises to keep thebush tax cuts and economic policy in place.
Bush borrowed 4.5 trillion in 7 years.
Bush cut taxes during times of prosperity - an economic NO-NO.
Bush cut taxes on oil companies during time of economic prosperity and record profits - a NO NO.
Bush cut taxes on the rich.
Now, in order to secure the nomination, Mccain had to promise to uphold the bush economic plan, one that many analysists believe has us in an official recession this month, and a depression if we hit a single speedbump.
The candidates are a wash on the war - they'll both let the generals make all the major calls. They're a wash on most other inconsequential issues. The only issue that concerns me is the economy. mccain promised to keep us on this same course - borrow from China to fund irresponsible spending while the rich folks in USA pay less taxes. It's not economically viable. It'll lead to a dollar depression which will cost these rich folks way more in overall portfolio loss than a simple 4% tax incresae would. They cannot see that though.
Why is it so hard for people to understand that tax cuts promote a healthy economy and higher taxes cripple the economy. Understand that I don't like Bush but I do like the fiscal conservative principles that drive a healthy economy. Let me put it this way:
One of these Getbiggers saves enough money to open his very own Supplement store. He has great success his first few years making $175,000/year. He has 5 people to work his store, 1 person to clean it, 1 person to keep his books. He impacts the businesses of every supplement company's brand that he buys to resell, even FedEx and UPS benefit in some small way by this small business owner.......then comes a politician who gets elected and wants to "raise taxes on those horrible, greedy wealthy people". Mr. Getbig is considered "wealthy" by the government, because he makes a decent salary and is taxed at an even higher rate. He now pays higher taxes on his business and higher taxes on his income forcing him to change the way his business operates. Guess who else gets hurt? The 7 people he employs, the company's that he buys from and even you when you go to buy his supplements with the "jacked up" price. So he lays off two people, covers the shifts himself, is forced to keep his own books and sees his dream of opening another store across town die. Now multiply that by thousands of times over and see what happens to the economy, job rate and all of those looking for American prosperity.
That's what higher taxes do........remember that 86% of taxes are paid by the top 25% of income earners... The idea of "taxing the rich" appeals to the masses of poor voters, don't get sucked in. Taxing big oil more isn't going to do anything but drive up your gas price!
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That is my problem with Obama - his definition of the rich.
He considers those with household incomes over 150k to be super rich, which is not the case.
After mortgage, car, daycare, $4 milk, $3 dollar gas etc....there's not as much left at the end of the day than everyone thinks. And I'm not talking about extravagant purchases. The tax hike could be the difference in saving money and saving nothing year over year.
Taxing the super wealthy makes sense, but you have to have the correct definition of it first.
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That is my problem with Obama - his definition of the rich.
He considers those with household incomes over 150k to be super rich, which is not the case.
After mortgage, car, daycare, $4 milk, $3 dollar gas etc....there's not as much left at the end of the day than everyone thinks. And I'm not talking about extravagant purchases. The tax hike could be the difference in saving money and saving nothing year over year.
Taxing the super wealthy makes sense, but you have to have the correct definition of it first.
If I remember correctly, the Dem/Libs consider $80,000 per household to be considered rich, that's $6666.00 per month before taxes. They have no sense of reality.
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I notice that a few canadian board members are rooting for Obama
my question is: why do you give a fuck about american elections ? ???
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I notice that a few canadian board members are rooting for Obama
my question is: why do you give a fuck about american elections ? ???
Maybe because Obama wants to screw up trade relations between the US and Canada.
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If I remember correctly, the Dem/Libs consider $80,000 per household to be considered rich, that's $6666.00 per month before taxes. They have no sense of reality.
I thought it was 75k per individual. My bad.
That actually makes it infinitely worse.
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I thought it was 75k per individual. My bad.
That actually makes it infinitely worse.
You maybe right about the $150k being super rich.
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Maybe because Obama wants to screw up trade relations between the US and Canada.
that's already pretty screwed up since our dollar is high
it pisses me off, I hope our dollar drops a little this year
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Good job, give yourself a pat on the back ;D
How do you feel now?
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;D he'll go down as one of the worst presidents in history......
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Newsflash dumb fuck.
Presidential elections are rigged. The votes are not counted.
Hope this helps.
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Newsflash dumb fuck.
Presidential elections are rigged. The votes are not counted.
Hope this helps.
So who put obama into power?
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So who put obama into power?
The same people who put every president into power.
The multi-billionares. The elite. The most powerful people on Earth. The people pulling the strings at the top of course.
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LOL, that was cute. You mean people like George Soros who's against capitolism but has made billions from it? Hahhahahaha!
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obama got to go ,,that fucktard didnt do shit for americana DID NOT DO SHIT ,,and bush before him didnt do shit either,, they both ruined the country to the core,,disguting,,hilary should have been president insted but the democratic party again showed their stupidity ,,the republican are evern worse because they cant find a good leader because all are greedy generation nothingness crap,,
bush failed
obama failed
you need reagan! ,,you need RON PAUL you need someone like that,,you need someone that is coming from the outside i dont know maybe glen back from the news ,,someone with that level of brain and practicality ,,but he will not run because he is too sensetive and he dont want it ,,so you are in shit hole ,,i just hope sara palin dont ruin you because it may be the last straw,,she shoudl never be president ever,,it is even worse than obama ,,
what a bunch of failures it is astounishing how bad you regressed since clinton ,,much better to have a president that is sex maniac and fuck his assistant but atleast doing his job ....than this fucktards you had last 10 years,,catastrophy
gh15 approved
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that fat fella hackabi may be your next reagan but i fear this is too late due to the generation ,,but he has something in him that shouts winner,,fat tendency winner but never the less winner,,he belong in a diff time mentaly ,,he may do good job,,but really not too many people to chose from and its quite sad,, hofuly someone wil rize that is more than internet balonie ,,or puffdady rapper
gh15 approved
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It's seems like there are alot of people on the Ronald Reagan bandwagon. Funny thing is he was one of the most hated presidents during the 1980's. Telling reporters to "shut up" and calling men reporters "mam". I really did believe good ol' Mondale had a chance with all the hate. Reagan hate reminds me of Bush hate. In 30 years the presidents are going to be so PC and watered down we're going to be saying the same thing we do for Reagan about Bush.
STAY POSITIVE WITH PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WERE AROUND IN REAGAN ERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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trump
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It's seems like there are alot of people on the Ronald Reagan bandwagon. Funny thing is he was one of the most hated presidents during the 1980's. Telling reporters to "shut up" and calling men reporters "mam". I really did believe good ol' Mondale had a chance with all the hate. Reagan hate reminds me of Bush hate. In 30 years the presidents are going to be so PC and watered down we're going to be saying the same thing we do for Reagan about Bush.
STAY POSITIVE WITH PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WERE AROUND IN REAGAN ERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nah bush did too much damage to the country from the inside as in economy damage that will take many many years to fix and obama even sinked it worse,,i was aroudn when reagan was,,the thing about him was that he was action man ,,he didnt wait for shit,,he did it ,,he cursed at reporters but yet he also at the same time fire the all damn flgiht controlers because they pissed the system off,, he didnt go into balonie and kissed their ass he put them in their place and fire them all,, man of actions! he also give amnestry to everyone ,,he didnt wait for no miricles and let people rotten in shit holes he brougth them out of the shadow...he had heart of gold,,he was of the thought of i would give you one chance you better take it because you wont get a second one and when leaders lead this way you know you have a leader you can count on and a man of his word,, so everyone TOOK THE CHANCES,,and americano society prospered,,
great great president
gh15 approved
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nah bush did too much damage to the country from the inside as in economy damage that will take many many years to fix and obama even sinked it worse,,i was aroudn when reagan was,,the thing about him was that he was action man ,,he didnt wait for shit,,he did it ,,he cursed at reporters but yet he also at the same time fire the all damn flgiht controlers because they pissed the system off,, he didnt go into balonie and kissed their ass he put them in their place and fire them all,, man of actions! he also give amnestry to everyone ,,he didnt wait for no miricles and let people rotten in shit holes he brougth them out of the shadow...he had heart of gold,,he was of the thought of i would give you one chance you better take it because you wont get a second one and when leaders lead this way you know you have a leader you can count on and a man of his word,, so everyone TOOK THE CHANCES,,and americano society prospered,,
great great president
gh15 approved
Well, I'm sure you remember the Star Wars fiasco. The Green Peace people thought we were on the verge of a nuclear war and Mondale was blaming Reagan for the humongous deficit. If memory serves me correct Mondale did horrible in that election more than likely having a female running mate as America really wasn't up to that and not even now. I remember Sting coming out with that song "hope the Russians love there children" blah, blah, blah which became an anthem to these activist. Playing it at there rallies. I bet those people were storing some serious food. I liked Reagan, he was strong and tough, oh how America has changed and become PC...it will never return.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The same people who put every president into power.
The multi-billionares. The elite. The most powerful people on Earth. The people pulling the strings at the top of course.
I think they dont control the elections that much, but what they do control is what can and cant get done, I think most presidents intend to do good but then get blocked
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obama got to go ,,that fucktard didnt do shit for americana DID NOT DO SHIT ,,and bush before him didnt do shit either,, they both ruined the country to the core,,disguting,,hilary should have been president insted but the democratic party again showed their stupidity ,,the republican are evern worse because they cant find a good leader because all are greedy generation nothingness crap,,
bush failed
obama failed
you need reagan! ,,you need RON PAUL you need someone like that,,you need someone that is coming from the outside i dont know maybe glen back from the news ,,someone with that level of brain and practicality ,,but he will not run because he is too sensetive and he dont want it ,,so you are in shit hole ,,i just hope sara palin dont ruin you because it may be the last straw,,she shoudl never be president ever,,it is even worse than obama ,,
what a bunch of failures it is astounishing how bad you regressed since clinton ,,much better to have a president that is sex maniac and fuck his assistant but atleast doing his job ....than this fucktards you had last 10 years,,catastrophy
gh15 approved
agree, also keep in mind, many sane people wont run as they feel they wont be able to make happen what they want
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nah bush did too much damage to the country from the inside as in economy damage that will take many many years to fix and obama even sinked it worse,,i was aroudn when reagan was,,the thing about him was that he was action man ,,he didnt wait for shit,,he did it ,,he cursed at reporters but yet he also at the same time fire the all damn flgiht controlers because they pissed the system off,, he didnt go into balonie and kissed their ass he put them in their place and fire them all,, man of actions! he also give amnestry to everyone ,,he didnt wait for no miricles and let people rotten in shit holes he brougth them out of the shadow...he had heart of gold,,he was of the thought of i would give you one chance you better take it because you wont get a second one and when leaders lead this way you know you have a leader you can count on and a man of his word,, so everyone TOOK THE CHANCES,,and americano society prospered,,
great great president
gh15 approved
sweetie, dont write about politics, reagan was a douche bag
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LOL @ "bigdumbell" hahaha!
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obama got to go ,,that fucktard didnt do shit for americana DID NOT DO SHIT ,,and bush before him didnt do shit either,, they both ruined the country to the core,,disguting,,hilary should have been president insted but the democratic party again showed their stupidity ,,the republican are evern worse because they cant find a good leader because all are greedy generation nothingness crap,,
bush failed
obama failed
you need reagan! ,,you need RON PAUL you need someone like that,,you need someone that is coming from the outside i dont know maybe glen back from the news ,,someone with that level of brain and practicality ,,but he will not run because he is too sensetive and he dont want it ,,so you are in shit hole ,,i just hope sara palin dont ruin you because it may be the last straw,,she shoudl never be president ever,,it is even worse than obama ,,
what a bunch of failures it is astounishing how bad you regressed since clinton ,,much better to have a president that is sex maniac and fuck his assistant but atleast doing his job ....than this fucktards you had last 10 years,,catastrophy
gh15 approved
No, all politicians are worthless or haven't you figured that out yet. You simply can't expect multi-millionaires who crave for wealth and power to do anything for the common man whether its Obama, Bush, Ron Paul, Reagon, etc.
Simply put, they don't care and they never cared so stop putting your trust into expecting them to do anything for you. ::)
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sweetie, dont write about politics, reagan was a douche bag
Reagan was a douche?
Epic fail.
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JFK was the last real president of the united states. :'(
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And today he would have been considered a republican.
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JFK was the last real president of the united states. :'(
Agree.
There is a reason he was assasinated. How many other presidents have been killed in recent times? Yeah.
Makes you wonder who he refused to deal with. Lulz.
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Good job, give yourself a pat on the back ;D
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