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All I can says is WOW to bad he couldn't get his back like this when he weighed 285 pounds , his back is the best I've ever seen it
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All I can says is WOW to bad he couldn't get his back like this when he weighed 285 pounds , his back is the best I've ever seen it
That's because he did not gain quality weight after that, he just got smoother. Synthol and water weight.
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All I can says is WOW to bad he couldn't get his back like this when he weighed 285 pounds , his back is the best I've ever seen it
Looks great in that shot. I could be wrong, but I think that his back development was hampered due to how wide his clavicles were - you can't have a full ROM on a lot of back exercises when you have that 'problem'. Of course, his genetics didn't come in handy at the higher bodyweight either, as far as his back is concerned.
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That's because he did not gain quality weight after that, he just got smoother. Synthol and water weight.
Yup, you can see 30 lbs of synthol and water in these shots! ::)
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1994 V 1997 you can see the drastic change in overall quality I mean his small waist is gone his glutes are super huge I always said he looked his best at 250 pounds
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1994 V 1997 you can see the drastic change in overall quality I mean his small waist is gone his glutes are super huge I always said he looked his best at 250 pounds
But then why would he get lower placings in 94 than in 97? Point I'm trying to make is that judging standards can be very biased.
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nasser looked like complete shit in 97... he looked a lot better when he was younger, he actually looked good in 94 or so.... but after that when he couldn't win a MR O title and started using huge amounts of oil, he fucked his body up beyond belief... oh yeah and he beats his wife
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But then why would he get lower placings in 94 than in 97? Point I'm trying to make is that judging standards can be very biased.
Biased I don't think so , it's all contingent on the competition , Nasser did well even at 250 pounds but purely from an all-around standpoint I think he looked his best at 250 pounds , the same with Coleman
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But then why would he get lower placings in 94 than in 97? Point I'm trying to make is that judging standards can be very biased.
After Dorian's wins in 93 and 94, a lot of the pros started playing the mass game big time. So you suddenly had a whole crop of 5'7 - 5'9" guys weighing 240 - 245 lbs onstage (K Lo, Flex, M Francois, Aaron Baker etc). So guys like Nasser who had a much bigger frame had no choice but to go up in size to look just as filled out.
That's why Nasser won the 95 NOC IMO - he was way too massive and muscular for the likes of the much lighter Vince Taylor and others. I think Nasser's weight went up by about 20 - 30 lbs between '94 and '95. I remember his talking about all the chicken breasts he was eating - good shit ;D
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Look at Huge Nasser owning Levrone and Yates.
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Biased I don't think so , it's all contingent on the competition , Nasser did well even at 250 pounds but purely from an all-around standpoint I think he looked his best at 250 pounds , the same with Coleman
So you think the competition in 94 was so much more fierce than in 97 that you could still get a 2nd place in 97 with a worse physique than 7th in 94?
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Look at Huge Nasser owning Levrone and Yates.
he's not owning Yates , you have to understand that all rounds are physique rounds and when you take this into consideration Nasser is losing that pose , he does have some advantages but overall when all things are considered all rounds are physique rounds
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he's not owning Yates , you have to understand that all rounds are physique rounds and when you take this into consideration Nasser is losing that pose , he does have some advantages but overall when all things are considered all rounds are physique rounds
Where is Yates' left bicep? ??? ???
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So you think the competition in 94 was so much more fierce than in 97 that you could still get a 2nd place in 97 with a worse physique than 7th in 94?
It all depends on the particular contest and who he faced and his level of conditioned etc , to many variables
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It all depends on the particular contest and who he faced and his level of conditioned etc , to many variables
Yeah, but you know all these variables already.
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Where is Yates' left bicep? ??? ???
One is shorter than the other , the same can be said for where is Nasser's forearms? forearms are just as important in the front double biceps shot as the biceps , you have to understand all rounds are physique rounds too , again Nasser has some advantages but overall he's not winning that shot .
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Yeah, but you know all these variables already.
Not for every competition in every year !
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Not for every competition in every year !
Just discussing 94 vs. 97 here. You said he was better in 94 than in 97. He placed much lower in 94 than in 97. So unless there was a HUGE decline in the competition from 94 to 97 (which there was not) - your statement implies that judging was not fair.
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One is shorter than the other , the same can be said for where is Nasser's forearms? forearms are just as important in the front double biceps shot as the biceps , you have to understand all rounds are physique rounds too , again Nasser has some advantages but overall he's not winning that shot .
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I understand the fact that Nasser looked loads better and was more complete except for his back development.
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Just discussing 94 vs. 97 here. You said he was better in 94 than in 97. He placed much lower in 94 than in 97. So unless there was a HUGE decline in the competition from 94 to 97 (which there was not) - your statement implies that judging was not fair.
Well in 94 I believe he was under 250 pounds at the Olympia and thats a whole other level of competition , and size is part of the judging criteria so while he did look much better overall lighter he needed to add some size to run with the big dogs but this size came at a cost
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nasser looked better in 94, if he kept at it and tried to add small amounts of muscle each year (5-7 pounds). then maybe he could have won a MR O title... but instead he tried adding too much muscle too fast with using the aid of toooooooo much oil. that in the end fucked him up... his physique in 97 was bigger than 94 but not better...
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I understand the fact that Nasser looked loads better and was more complete except for his back development.
No you believe that it doesn't make it a fact ! again forearms are just as important as biceps in the front double biceps shot among other factors just because you're willing to overlook this doesn't mean the judges would you harp on Yates shorter bicep while ignoring the forearms and the fact that part of symmetry ( balance & proportion ) is torso length , Nasser has a long torso and short legs this is being judged as well , now couple that with density & dryness , all of these are assessed in the pose not just what you think wins a shot .
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Just discussing 94 vs. 97 here. You said he was better in 94 than in 97. He placed much lower in 94 than in 97. So unless there was a HUGE decline in the competition from 94 to 97 (which there was not) - your statement implies that judging was not fair.
Overall preferences change. As long as on a given year the competitors are judged similarly, then it is fair. There was a big change in judging towards emphasis on more mass as the decade rolled on.
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No you believe that it doesn't make it a fact ! again forearms are just as important as biceps in the front double biceps shot among other factors just because you're willing to overlook this doesn't mean the judges would you harp on Yates shorter bicep while ignoring the forearms and the fact that part of symmetry ( balance & proportion ) is torso length , Nasser has a long torso and short legs this is being judged as well , now couple that with density & dryness , all of these are assessed in the pose not just what you think wins a shot .
For argument's sake, let's say forearms were just as important as biceps in that front double biceps shot (hypothetically). Nasser still beats Dorian in that shot in every other bodypart - triceps, chest, abs, quads, etc.
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For argument's sake, let's say forearms were just as important as biceps in that front double biceps shot (hypothetically). Nasser still beats Dorian in that shot in every other bodypart - triceps, chest, abs, quads, etc.
Again you're like Hulkster trying to add up the parts to made the best sum it doesn't work that way and there is no hypothetically read the IFBB judging criteria it states the forearms are just as important , just like torso length , leg length , and I disagree about the parts how you made the leap he has better triceps is beyond me comparable sure the same with the chest again its very comparable abs Nasser's are more visible in this shot it doesn't mean their better , quads Nasser's are bigger but look a lot softer now couple that with all the other factors and Yates is clearly winning this shot
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here's a shot of Nasser destroying Dorian.
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here's a shot of Nasser destroying Dorian.
I mean thats just ignorant of 10 levels seriously , I always laugh when you guys type this nonsense Dorian is easily destroying Nasser in this shot despite his smaller biceps , Yates is 20 times harder and his back is just in another league , Nasser looks very soft next to Yates & Ray
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here's a shot of Nasser destroying Dorian.
no way ....nasser is a oil bloated wife beating pile of shit. he is the most overrated bber on the planet.. team nasser needs to all die....
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Again you're like Hulkster trying to add up the parts to made the best sum it doesn't work that way and there is no hypothetically read the IFBB judging criteria it states the forearms are just as important , just like torso length , leg length , and I disagree about the parts how you made the leap he has better triceps is beyond me comparable sure the same with the chest again its very comparable abs Nasser's are more visible in this shot it doesn't mean their better , quads Nasser's are bigger but look a lot softer now couple that with all the other factors and Yates is clearly winning this shot
When pictures clearly show one bodybuilder looking better than Dorian, Dorian fans resort to claims of "hardness" or other things that are apparently "unseen" in photos ::)
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When pictures clearly show one bodybuilder looking better than Dorian, Dorian fans resort to claims of "hardness" or other things that are apparently "unseen" in photos ::)
hahahha, exactly, the time tested, "you had to see him in person" defense. ::)
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When pictures clearly show one bodybuilder looking better than Dorian, Dorian fans resort to claims of "hardness" or other things that are apparently "unseen" in photos ::)
You're true about hardness being hard to seen in photos although look at the back double biceps shot from 1996 Nasser looks very soft next to Shawn and Dorian , but thats why we have to rely on eyewitness accounts for the level of a competitor's conditioning and in this department Dorian stood alone .
again its clear to YOU Nasser looks better its clear me to me he doesn't the difference is the judges agreed with me and let me preempt your politics excuse its the sign of a person who is desperate
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hahahha, exactly, the time tested, "you had to see him in person" defense. ::)
not a defense a fact ;)
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You're true about hardness being hard to seen in photos although look at the back double biceps shot from 1996 Nasser looks very soft next to Shawn and Dorian , but thats why we have to rely on eyewitness accounts for the level of a competitor's conditioning and in this department Dorian stood alone .
again its clear to YOU Nasser looks better its clear me to me he doesn't the difference is the judges agreed with me and let me preempt your politics excuse its the sign of a person who is desperate
Shawn Ray looks more detailed than both Nasser and Dorian, but is too small next to them. Nasser is a bit bigger than Dorian, and overal more detailed as well. Give me an example of where you can see a difference in "hardness" in that picture - either in pics or in person. ::)
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All I can says is WOW to bad he couldn't get his back like this when he weighed 285 pounds , his back is the best I've ever seen it
Nasser had classic lines in that shot and looks incredible, no question.
For some reason, his back lost the fine detail and separation when he massed out later.
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Shawn Ray looks more detailed than both Nasser and Dorian, but is too small next to them. Nasser is a bit bigger than Dorian, and overal more detailed as well. Give me an example of where you can see a difference in "hardness" in that picture - either in pics or in person. ::)
Yates shows more detail than BOTH of them Nasser is a bit bigger albeit a LOT softer , look Nasser is soft in 1996 despite his diuretics use , he's carrying intramuscular fat ( soft ) and he's hold a film of water ( not dry ) this is evident in the lack of crisp muscularity and outstanding detail & separation his glutes are soft his back is severely lacking especially compared to Yates his hams are obscured his arms and delts look pretty good but overall anyone who claims Nasser is beating Dorian Yates in this particular shot at this particular contest knows absolutely NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding .
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Nasser had classic lines in that shot and looks incredible, no question.
For some reason, his back lost the fine detail and separation when he massed out later.
Thats true he couldn't replicate that detail & conditioning with increased mass .
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No you believe that it doesn't make it a fact ! again forearms are just as important as biceps in the front double biceps shot among other factors just because you're willing to overlook this doesn't mean the judges would you harp on Yates shorter bicep while ignoring the forearms and the fact that part of symmetry ( balance & proportion ) is torso length , Nasser has a long torso and short legs this is being judged as well , now couple that with density & dryness , all of these are assessed in the pose not just what you think wins a shot .
I'm sorry but i don't think i've ever read such bullshit.
Sorry nd, i'm calling you on this one like many others have in the past.
There is no way dorian beats nasser on the front dbl bicep.
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I'm sorry but i don't think i've ever read such bullshit.
Sorry nd, i'm calling you on this one like many others have in the past.
There is no way dorian beats nasser on the front dbl bicep.
Nasser KILLS Dorian here on the FDB.
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Yates shows more detail than BOTH of them Nasser is a bit bigger albeit a LOT softer , look Nasser is soft in 1996 despite his diuretics use , he's carrying intramuscular fat ( soft ) and he's hold a film of water ( not dry ) this is evident in the lack of crisp muscularity and outstanding detail & separation his glutes are soft his back is severely lacking especially compared to Yates his hams are obscured his arms and delts look pretty good but overall anyone who claims Nasser is beating Dorian Yates in this particular shot at this particular contest knows absolutely NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding .
For starters that pic is 97 and not 96. Nasser wore red trunks in 96 and black ones in 97. Nasser passed the diuretics test in 97. Genetically, individuals are more or less prone to hold fat and water in certain bodyparts than others. Therefore, you can't simply say, his back or his glutes are less detailed therefore he is holding more water and is softer. Look at the other bodparts - delts, arms, hamstrings - Dorian is holding more fat/water than Nasser in those bodyparts. OVERALL Nasser is beating Dorian in that pose, and whoever disagrees is completely DELUSIONAL.
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For starters that pic is 97 and not 96. Nasser wore red trunks in 96 and black ones in 97. Nasser passed the diuretics test in 97. Genetically, individuals are more or less prone to hold fat and water in certain bodyparts than others. Therefore, you can't simply say, his back or his glutes are less detailed therefore he is holding more water and is softer. Look at the other bodparts - delts, arms, hamstrings - Dorian is holding more fat/water than Nasser in those bodyparts. OVERALL Nasser is beating Dorian in that pose, and whoever disagrees is completely DELUSIONAL.
WRONG its 1996 go you know how I know? because I scanned that picture from my magazine its 1996 kid and he wore both red & black trunks in the prejudging & night show and I'm sure you believe he's beating Yates in that pose but needless to say the judges disagreed and all you're left with is cries of politics
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I'm sorry but i don't think i've ever read such bullshit.
Sorry nd, i'm calling you on this one like many others have in the past.
There is no way dorian beats nasser on the front dbl bicep.
sure he does , calling me out ::) again does Nasser have some advantages in the shit? sure is he beating Yates overall in that shot? NO please keep in mind all rounds are physique rounds and while taking that in to consideration Yates is winning the shot and ironically the judged all agreed 13 independent ones to boot , I guess they're all wrong too , hey are you calling them out to?
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he's not owning Yates , you have to understand that all rounds are physique rounds and when you take this into consideration Nasser is losing that pose , he does have some advantages but overall when all things are considered all rounds are physique rounds
lol wtf?
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Yates getting totally owned and ND babbles about "physique rounds" in some sort of a pathetic excuse..
LOL
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what an idiot. :-\
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this video is analagous to ND's defense of dorian being owned:
hahahaha
but its true.
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I'm sorry but i don't think i've ever read such bullshit.
Sorry nd, i'm calling you on this one like many others have in the past.
There is no way dorian beats nasser on the front dbl bicep.
"I personally believe.."
LOL
ND is out in space. as usual.
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Where is Yates' left bicep? ??? ???
its apparently in the same place ND's brain is..
lol
yet another thread where ND is being owned by everyone!
ND if I were you I would quit posting.
you are being embarassed on a routine basis lately, starting with the infamous Truce thread.
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For starters that pic is 97 and not 96. Nasser wore red trunks in 96 and black ones in 97. Nasser passed the diuretics test in 97. Genetically, individuals are more or less prone to hold fat and water in certain bodyparts than others. Therefore, you can't simply say, his back or his glutes are less detailed therefore he is holding more water and is softer. Look at the other bodparts - delts, arms, hamstrings - Dorian is holding more fat/water than Nasser in those bodyparts. OVERALL Nasser is beating Dorian in that pose, and whoever disagrees is completely DELUSIONAL.
Nasser was one of the elite top tier bodybuilders in the mid 90's regardless of his lack of Olympia wins.
He had a great run and was a class act in his prime, and I always admired him.
Howard
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lol wtf?
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Yates getting totally owned and ND babbles about "physique rounds" in some sort of a pathetic excuse..
LOL
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what an idiot. :-\
LMFAO the criteria is an excuse now lol another Hulkster classic again less personal attacks and more attempts at trying to prove me wrong ;)
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its apparently in the same place ND's brain is..
lol
yet another thread where ND is being owned by everyone!
ND if I were you I would quit posting.
you are being embarassed on a routine basis lately, starting with the infamous Truce thread.
Again you're so desperate for revenge you think if anyone disagrees with me I'm getting owned ::) again less personal attacks and more proof , he asked where is Dorian's left biceps and my counter is where is Nasser's forearms its part of the judging criteria if you think Dorian's shorter left biceps is a liability and Nasser's two pathetic forearms aren't you proved my point about ignorance of competitive bodybuilding , again you have an axe to grind with me for kicking your ass for 1600 pages you think agreeing with the other ignorant people makes you right? lol
Again despite the shoter left bicep Dorian is beating Nasser in that pose , he won the contest with straight firsts all 13 judged agree with me , who agrees with you? Nasser kool-aid drinkers? and Coleman nutt huggers lol and you have the balls to typed I'm getting owned LMMFAO
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Nasser was one of the elite top tier bodybuilders in the mid 90's regardless of his lack of Olympia wins.
He had a great run and was a class act in his prime, and I always admired him.
Howard
i agree, look at it like this, he won the NOC, won the Arnold twice and finished 2nd at the Olympia and most people think he won that show, he'll always be the uncrowned Mr. O.
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Again despite the shoter left bicep Dorian is beating Nasser in that pose , he won the contest with straight firsts all 13 judged agree with me , who agrees with you? Nasser kool-aid drinkers? and Coleman nutt huggers lol and you have the balls to typed I'm getting owned LMMFAO
LOL I would love to hear how you apply the so called criteria and come pu with Nasser losing LOL
Nasser has 1000x better arms for starters, he has a thicker chest, better lats and taper, better quads.
dorian has better calves and nothing else.
lol ::)
it shows how little you know that you can apply criteria and do it completely wrong LOL and get the exact opposite of what you should have come up with..
and then you go to the panel of famously controversial judges controlled by Joe Weider for comfort lol
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Where'd Dorian's bicep go? ???
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it is interesting that everyone agrees that a young nasser looks great but he got progressively worse as he played the size game
everyone except team nasser, which makes you question their objectiveness and thus every thread about nasser becomes pointless.
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it is interesting that everyone agrees that a young nasser looks great but he got progressively worse as he played the size game
everyone except team nasser, which makes you question their objectiveness and thus every thread about nasser becomes pointless.
He got worse after 99.
But Nasser was one of the first bb'ers to be 270 ripped.. One of the first mass monsters. He set the stage for guys like Ronnie, Markus, Jay and others.
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He got worse after 99.
But Nasser was one of the first bb'ers to be 270 ripped.. One of the first mass monsters. He set the stage for guys like Ronnie, Markus, Jay and others.
Hate to break the news to you, but Jim Quinn was 10 times harder than Nasser at 290 lbs in the late 80's eraly 90's.
Lou was over 300 at the 92 and 93 O's.
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it is interesting that everyone agrees that a young nasser looks great but he got progressively worse as he played the size game
everyone except team nasser, which makes you question their objectiveness and thus every thread about nasser becomes pointless.
You forgot the IFBB-judges as well. And I think that their opinions are more important (to Nasser) than "everyone" in this thread.
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Hate to break the news to you, but Jim Quinn was 10 times harder than Nasser at 290 lbs in the late 80's eraly 90's.
Lou was over 300 at the 92 and 93 O's.
they may have been harder but they lacked the detail to display that nasser did.
its part of why dorian looked so bad in many front shots.
he was hard but had little detail:
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There is no doubting that Nasser looked immaculate before he started playing the size game (which he had to as that's the way this circus has gone)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=197264.0;attach=229431;image)
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All I can says is WOW to bad he couldn't get his back like this when he weighed 285 pounds , his back is the best I've ever seen it
His back is very good, but that look at that shot again. Damn fine calves. Extraordinary width and thickness.
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LOL I would love to hear how you apply the so called criteria and come pu with Nasser losing LOL
Nasser has 1000x better arms for starters, he has a thicker chest, better lats and taper, better quads.
dorian has better calves and nothing else.
lol ::)
it shows how little you know that you can apply criteria and do it completely wrong LOL and get the exact opposite of what you should have come up with..
and then you go to the panel of famously controversial judges controlled by Joe Weider for comfort lol
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Thanks for proving my point when you have nothing cry politics ::) but some how your hero escaped the same politics when he won lol great logic
kid go away and return when you have something of substance
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yeah, because all these threads showing dorian getting owned and owned and owned are 'nothing' ::)
there was no politics involved, none at al..
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epic delusion thankfully only shared by your follower and bitch, Pubes aka England 1
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ND and Hulkster - why do you guys continue this same argument? You post the same pictures and say the same stuff over and over. You're both clearly quite intelligent and (usually) articulate guys..why keep insulting each other over something you will clearly NEVER agree on.
It's like Groundhog Day..how much more time and energy can you guys spend fighting over men's bodies?
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yeah, because all these threads showing dorian getting owned and owned and owned are 'nothing' ::)
there was no politics involved, none at al..
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epic delusion thankfully only shared by your follower and bitch, Pubes aka England 1
yeah because all of these people making baseless claims means anything , again you cry politics when it suits your case but when it comes to your hero he escaped unscathed ::) you're always stuck in this retarded logic
again you see what you want and so do they the difference is it always contradicts the judges and when that doesn't fit your opinion then you can't possibly be wrong it has to be the system ::) then type a few posts later how Ronnie dominated in 2001 LMFAO you're a hypocrite and an ignorant one at that
all you have left is personal attacks and excuses ;)
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ND and Hulkster - why do you guys continue this same argument? You post the same pictures and say the same stuff over and over. You're both clearly quite intelligent and (usually) articulate guys..why keep insulting each other over something you will clearly NEVER agree on.
It's like Groundhog Day..how much more time and energy can you guys spend fighting over men's bodies?
Actually I stopped posting on the Truce Thread Ronnie Coleman conceded twice he would never be able to defeat Dorian Yates that renders anything he can say moot , here is his M.O. he hates the fact I crushed him and his ignorant opinion so he fellows me around like a puppy dog making personal attacks and looking for ANYONE who would disagree with me , me I just correct him and move on he needs my attention because he can't handle the fact he lost and he was wrong and he was proven wrong by his own hero.
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Actually I stopped posting on the Truce Thread Ronnie Coleman conceded twice he would never be able to defeat Dorian Yates that renders anything he can say moot , here is his M.O. he hates the fact I crushed him and his ignorant opinion so he fellows me around like a puppy dog making personal attacks and looking for ANYONE who would disagree with me , me I just correct him and move on he needs my attention because he can't handle the fact he lost and he was wrong and he was proven wrong by his own hero.
Tbh I often agree with your take on things as you, like me, tend to favor the more traditional and aesthetic qualities over straight out mass packed on a frame that battles to sustain it. I just can't see the point in arguing over things that are to an extent subjective and with people who will never agree.
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I always considered Nasser's back to be pretty good
Everything flowed on his body and he def had a thick dense back
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Hate to break the news to you, but Jim Quinn was 10 times harder than Nasser at 290 lbs in the late 80's eraly 90's.
Lou was over 300 at the 92 and 93 O's.
And how tall were they? Nasser was the first person of average height, or below 6' tall to compete at 280 lbs hard and symmetrical.
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Why was Nasser the ONLY pro in the Olympia 96 to get a STANDING OVATION??? Was it because Dorian and Shawn's packages were better? ::)
By the way Yates did not have harder legs than Naser - HE TORE BOTH QUADS, HIS RIGHT HIP (there is a long scar visible but mostly never shown, sometimes you can see it in his side chest pose). And in the 1997 Olympia Yates also had a torn left biceps, so with multiple torn muscles he still looked better AND HARDER? ???
By the way fresh torn muscles like Yates had when he tore his left triceps less the eight weeks before the 97 Olympia DO HOLD WATER. Yates did not undergo triceps surgery before the 97 Olympia because he would not have made it, but he got signalled that he would win if he would retreat afterwards from further competition.
So with a torn biceps, torn triceps, torn left quad, torn right quad, torn right hip, etc Yates wins still with a perfect score in 1997? All this counts less because of Nasser's "bad" back.
Also there was NEVER EVER any talk about Nasser's weak forearms since recently on getbig.com. Huge Nasser's forearms HAVE NEVER BEEN CRITISIZED BY ANY OF THE JUDGES OF FLEX OR OTHER MAGAZINES.
By the way Yates' forearms looked relatively big because of his relatively smaller, then still untorn arm.
Forearms do not decide a Mr. Olympia outcome, and neither do calves otherwise most black guys except Dillett and Vince Taylor (who have great calves) would never place in the top of any show. Nasser had much greater calves than standard, but you guys think with bigger forearms Nasser could have only then beat the field, but again, the calves do not count because they are less important than forearms?
Nasser, with ONE torn muscle would have never ever seen the top 6 ever again!!!
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And how tall were they? Nasser was the first person of average height, or below 6' tall to compete at 280 lbs hard and symmetrical.
Jim Quinn was 6'1 and 290 in contest shape, MUCH harder than Nasser, no comparison on condition, Mike Quinn was as hard as Dorian or Gaspari were.
Nasser was 5'11, and 270, so Jim Quinn was much bigger on a height to weight ratio.
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Why was Nasser the ONLY pro in the Olympia 96 to get a STANDING OVATION??? Was it because Dorian and Shawn's packages were better? ::)
By the way Yates did not have harder legs than Naser - HE TORE BOTH QUADS, HIS RIGHT HIP (there is a long scar visible but mostly never shown, sometimes you can see it in his side chest pose). And in the 1997 Olympia Yates also had a torn left biceps, so with multiple torn muscles he still looked better AND HARDER? ???
By the way fresh torn muscles like Yates had when he tore his left triceps less the eight weeks before the 97 Olympia DO HOLD WATER. Yates did not undergo triceps surgery before the 97 Olympia because he would not have made it, but he got signalled that he would win if he would retreat afterwards from further competition.
So with a torn biceps, torn triceps, torn left quad, torn right quad, torn right hip, etc Yates wins still with a perfect score in 1997? All this counts less because of Nasser's "bad" back.
Also there was NEVER EVER any talk about Nasser's weak forearms since recently on getbig.com. Huge Nasser's forearms HAVE NEVER BEEN CRITISIZED BY ANY OF THE JUDGES OF FLEX OR OTHER MAGAZINES.
By the way Yates' forearms looked relatively big because of his relatively smaller, then still untorn arm.
Forearms do not decide a Mr. Olympia outcome, and neither do calves otherwise most black guys except Dillett and Vince Taylor (who have great calves) would never place in the top of any show. Nasser had much greater calves than standard, but you guys think with bigger forearms Nasser could have only then beat the field, but again, the calves do not count because they are less important than forearms?
Nasser, with ONE torn muscle would have never ever seen the top 6 ever again!!!
Why was Nasser the ONLY pro in the Olympia 96 to get a STANDING OVATION??? Was it because Dorian and Shawn's packages were better? ::)
I don't know if this is true and assuming it was it proves nothing , Nasser was a fan-favorite he's the reason why a lot of guys get into bodybuilding because they want to be massive , ask any teenager if they want to be aesthetic and well proportioned and they'll look at you puzzled , Nasser used to be a very popular bodybuilder and just because of that fact doesn't mean he was the best bodybuilder
By the way Yates did not have harder legs than Naser - HE TORE BOTH QUADS, HIS RIGHT HIP (there is a long scar visible but mostly never shown, sometimes you can see it in his side chest pose). And in the 1997 Olympia Yates also had a torn left biceps, so with multiple torn muscles he still looked better AND HARDER? ???
I never seen this long scar you're talking about and its not a matter of the muscles looking better per sa . and are you claiming torn muscles can't be hard? why not? hardness is just the absence of intramuscular fat just because the muscle is torn doesn't mean it can't be hard and it does obscure the muscle externally hence why his quad separation wasn't as good post tears
By the way fresh torn muscles like Yates had when he tore his left triceps less the eight weeks before the 97 Olympia DO HOLD WATER. Yates did not undergo triceps surgery before the 97 Olympia because he would not have made it, but he got signalled that he would win if he would retreat afterwards from further competition.
I wont entertain conspiracy theories and fantasy politics , Yates was signaled he would win , serious
So with a torn biceps, torn triceps, torn left quad, torn right quad, torn right hip, etc Yates wins still with a perfect score in 1997? All this counts less because of Nasser's "bad" back.
I personally don't think he should have won in 1997 nevermind won with perfect scores but I'm only basing this on pictures and video , plenty of member on this site were there and claimed he won with ease
Also there was NEVER EVER any talk about Nasser's weak forearms since recently on getbig.com. Huge Nasser's forearms HAVE NEVER BEEN CRITISIZED BY ANY OF THE JUDGES OF FLEX OR OTHER MAGAZINES.
By the way Yates' forearms looked relatively big because of his relatively smaller, then still untorn arm.
so there was no talk of it so they're not there? lol great logic , again when asked the question what about Dorian's ' missing left bicep ' my response was " what about Nasser's two missing forearms " just because it wasn't mentioned doesn't mean it's not being judged , again read the IFBB judging criteria it states the forearms are just as important as the biceps and if you're going to harp on Yates biceps one can just as easily point out Nasser's weak forearms and another flaws in symmetry just because it wasn't mentioned doesn't mean it wasn't judged , and Yates forearms looked huge because they are huge even pre-tear
Forearms do not decide a Mr. Olympia outcome, and neither do calves otherwise most black guys except Dillett and Vince Taylor (who have great calves) would never place in the top of any show. Nasser had much greater calves than standard, but you guys think with bigger forearms Nasser could have only then beat the field, but again, the calves do not count because they are less important than forearms?
Nasser, with ONE torn muscle would have never ever seen the top 6 ever again!!!
No its not forearms ALONE again when assessing an overall shot these things come onto play , you people bitch about Yates' shorter biceps while ignoring Nasser's small unproportionate forearms , now couple that with his short legs and long troso and less than stella conditioning and this all combined is how one loses a pose although you think he's winning it , conditioning more often than not decides the outcome of a contest
and to quote the judges Dorian's torn bicep made NO overall difference what so ever , just because you think its a big deal they didn't and in the end thats all that matters is what they think.
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1994 V 1997 you can see the drastic change in overall quality I mean his small waist is gone his glutes are super huge I always said he looked his best at 250 pounds
His head looksmuch different. . . Theres a new crease from ear to chin ;D
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i agree, look at it like this, he won the NOC, won the Arnold twice and finished 2nd at the Olympia and most people think he won that show, he'll always be the uncrowned Mr. O.
No he didn't. He won it once, in 1999.
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All I can says is WOW to bad he couldn't get his back like this when he weighed 285 pounds , his back is the best I've ever seen it
Better than your idol Dorian.
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Jim Quinn was 6'1 and 290 in contest shape, MUCH harder than Nasser, no comparison on condition, Mike Quinn was as hard as Dorian or Gaspari were.
Nasser was 5'11, and 270, so Jim Quinn was much bigger on a height to weight ratio.
Actually Nasser was 5'11" and 289 at the 99 Arnold Classic, so that's more massively proportioned than Jim Quinn even if he was 290 at 6'1". And I hardly doubt these "Quinns" were harder than Nasser otherwise more people would have heard of them!
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Actually Nasser was 5'11" and 289 at the 99 Arnold Classic, so that's more massively proportioned than Jim Quinn even if he was 290 at 6'1". And I hardly doubt these "Quinns" were harder than Nasser otherwise more people would have heard of them!
If you were awake during the 80s and 90s, you heard of them... ::)
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Actually Nasser was 5'11" and 289 at the 99 Arnold Classic, so that's more massively proportioned than Jim Quinn even if he was 290 at 6'1". And I hardly doubt these "Quinns" were harder than Nasser otherwise more people would have heard of them!
Nasser was NEVER 289 in contest shape. NEVER.
Listen bozo, we all worked out in the same fucking gym, day in and day out. Jim Quinn was in CONTEST condition year round, and he was always huge, and he DAWRFED even a smooth Nasser in the gym.
So since you were not there, and you have no first hand knowledge, and I do, I think I am more legit.
Hope this helps Boobs. ;D
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Nasser was NEVER 289 in contest shape. NEVER.
Listen bozo, we all worked out in the same fucking gym, day in and day out. Jim Quinn was in CONTEST condition year round, and he was always huge, and he DAWRFED even a smooth Nasser in the gym.
So since you were not there, and you have no first hand knowledge, and I do, I think I am more legit.
Hope this helps Boobs. ;D
Brutal capitalization/Meltdown/denial at coming to find that Nasser competed at nearly 290.
Do some research, Nasser competed at 289 at the 99 Arnold Classic. He also competed at 285 at several shows. I would consider what you say here to be somewhat legit but you already lost all credibility by claiming that you can find anyone's wealth with your few online searches ::) Or perhaps since you are "there" in California that makes your wealth claims also more credible? ::)
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LMFAO!! I just looked up this "Jim Quinn" character and can't fathom how even the delusional JohnyVegas can claim that he "dwarfed" Nasser and was "harder" too! Oh brother!
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LMFAO!! I just looked up this "Jim Quinn" character and can't fathom how even the delusional JohnyVegas can claim that he "dwarfed" Nasser and was "harder" too! Oh brother!
hahahaaha, Nasser is absolutely DWARFING AND DESTROYING that narrow motherfuccker.
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LMFAO!! I just looked up this "Jim Quinn" character and can't fathom how even the delusional JohnyVegas can claim that he "dwarfed" Nasser and was "harder" too! Oh brother!
uhhhh....jim quinn was gigantic and had the ability to come in hard as a rock, the only reason he wasn't a top pro-aside from him going to the WBF was that he had a very blocky waist, every show he did he was big, hard and vascular as hell...strong as an ox too.
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uhhhh....jim quinn was gigantic and had the ability to come in hard as a rock, the only reason he wasn't a top pro-aside from him going to the WBF was that he had a very blocky waist, every show he did he was big, hard and vascular as hell...strong as an ox too.
Those are fair statements natural al, but let's keep things in perspective here. JohnyVegas was saying that Jim Quinn "dwarfed" Nasser and was "harder." Pictures, however, show the OPPOSITE. Let me guess - Johny will say, "you weren't there so you can't tell" or "there's more to it that pictures dont show!" ::)
hahahaaha, Nasser is absolutely DWARFING AND DESTROYING that narrow motherfuccker.
hahahaha, if I was at home and had a bit more time I'd put the two pics next to each other and scale them properly to really show how much of a difference there is, since the photo of Jim is a lot larger but it still doesnt make up for the huge difference in their physiques.
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Those are fair statements natural al, but let's keep things in perspective here. JohnyVegas was saying that Jim Quinn "dwarfed" Nasser and was "harder." Pictures, however, show the OPPOSITE. Let me guess - Johny will say, "you weren't there so you can't tell" or "there's more to it that pictures dont show!" ::)
hahahaha, if I was at home and had a bit more time I'd put the two pics next to each other and scale them properly to really show how much of a difference there is, since the photo of Jim is a lot larger but it still doesnt make up for the huge difference in their physiques.
I have no intersest in this debate I was just pointing out that that particular pic doesn't really show what JQ was all about....
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uhhhh....jim quinn was gigantic and had the ability to come in hard as a rock, the only reason he wasn't a top pro-aside from him going to the WBF was that he had a very blocky waist, every show he did he was big, hard and vascular as hell...strong as an ox too.
BOOM! Jim dwarfed that pussy Nasser.
Nasser was never 289 on stage, or 285. more like 230-240 max. ::)
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Do some research, Nasser competed at 289 239 at the 99 Arnold Classic. He also competed at 235 at several shows. I would consider what you say here to be somewhat legit but you already lost all credibility by claiming that you can find anyone's wealth with your few online searches ::) Or perhaps since you are "there" in California that makes your wealth claims also more credible? ::)
There fixed! ;D
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Nasser would cream his fucking soiled for sale posing trunks if he could ever look as hard as Jim.
(http://www.davepalumbo.com/Rxmuscle2/Rxmusclewriters/jquinn16.jpg)
Look at that fucking hardness. Unreal. Nasser could not even DREAM of that shit.
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Nasser would cream his fucking soiled for sale posing trunks if he could ever look as hard as Jim.
(http://www.davepalumbo.com/Rxmuscle2/Rxmusclewriters/jquinn16.jpg)
Look at that fucking hardness. Unreal. Nasser could not even DREAM of that shit.
He has easily exceeded it:
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He has easily exceeded it:
Exceed it? he can't even match his 1994 version , one pic Nasser is very dry and really hard take a wild guess which pic it is.
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Hahaa....
Junior, it is not even close.
Nasser looks like a smooth babies bottom next to Jim.
Exceed it? he can't even match his 1994 version , one pic Nasser is very dry and really hard take a wild guess which pic it is.
:D Boobs is becoming delusional.
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Here is Jim Quinn making Haney look small , Jim was a massive guy
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Mike Quinn had no legs.
Jim Quinn never made the impact that Nasser did.
End of debate.
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Here is Jim Quinn making Haney look small , Jim was a massive guy
Sure Jim was a big guy, but to compare him to Nasser is ridiculous. Here's the pic ND posted of him wearing a tanktop, and a similar pose with Nasser. not even close.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199065.0;attach=232019;image)
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Isn't that Nasser in Hawaii?
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Isn't that Nasser in Hawaii?
yes sir :) Huge Nasser lives it up!
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You desperate losers are so far out you now even want to compare Nasser to Jim Quinn. This is like comparing Chris Cormier with David Palumbo!
Jim Quinn used to workout at the same gym as Huge Nasser in the mid-90's at the Pacific Beach Gold's Gym. Jim regularly on nubaine and always very negative, extremely depressed and never really trained hard, except for pics in photo shoots. He did not want to be a bodybuilder, he told just everyone that he wanted to have a girlfriend and have a family. He had NO detail, yes he was veiny but to that extreme that he looked inflamed. He did not have any proportion, symmetry or flowing muscle groups at all. In the offseason he was 285 lbs, not precontest!!!! Also, being as tall as Quinn makes your bodyweight mean even less. In contrast, Nasser competed even at 295 lbs in the European tours!
Jim Quinn only looked good standing. As soon as he got into a pose he just looked extremely bad, unproportinate and weird. All his weaknesses came out. For people like Quinn, a bodybuilding contest without poses would have been the best, lol.
Oh and he looked big next to Haney in that pic because Haney is obviously off his anabolics there.
Quinn had one of the worst physiques ever. Big but looked like it had been put together by 12 different human beings - one biceps from that guy, one triceps from that guy, one calf from that guy, etc LOL.
Later Quinn had to move to New York where he started being a personal trainer as his TwinLab contract was over.
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no doubt jim quinn was one of the bigger BB's of the early to mid 90's
and yes, he was hard and vascular
HOWEVER as bigbobs astutely points out
jim quinn lacked shape and symmetry and was EXTREMELY blocky in the waist and after Yates had the largest set of obliques in BB
Nasser absolutely destroys QUinn in terms of overall mass, shape, symmetry and conditioning
Nasser- Arnold classic champion, mr O runner up, NOC and Grand pRix winner multiple times
Jim quinn- any pro wins???
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Jim quinn- any pro wins???
Yes, Jim Quinn won the 1996 Max Nubaine show, with Dorian Yates as runner up. They took turns beating each other throughout the years for the Max Nubaine show. Yates was arguing to somehow fit in his racist tattoos into the judging criteria to give him the edge.
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You desperate losers are so far out you now even want to compare Nasser to Jim Quinn. This is like comparing Chris Cormier with David Palumbo!
Jim Quinn used to workout at the same gym as Huge Nasser in the mid-90's at the Pacific Beach Gold's Gym. Jim regularly on nubaine and always very negative, extremely depressed and never really trained hard, except for pics in photo shoots. He did not want to be a bodybuilder, he told just everyone that he wanted to have a girlfriend and have a family. He had NO detail, yes he was veiny but to that extreme that he looked inflamed. He did not have any proportion, symmetry or flowing muscle groups at all. In the offseason he was 285 lbs, not precontest!!!! Also, being as tall as Quinn makes your bodyweight mean even less. In contrast, Nasser competed even at 295 lbs in the European tours!
Jim Quinn only looked good standing. As soon as he got into a pose he just looked extremely bad, unproportinate and weird. All his weaknesses came out. For people like Quinn, a bodybuilding contest without poses would have been the best, lol.
Oh and he looked big next to Haney in that pic because Haney is obviously off his anabolics there.
Quinn had one of the worst physiques ever. Big but looked like it had been put together by 12 different human beings - one biceps from that guy, one triceps from that guy, one calf from that guy, etc LOL.
Later Quinn had to move to New York where he started being a personal trainer as his TwinLab contract was over.
Hahaha..... bobboobs is getting more delusional by the day.
First, Jim Quinn NEVER regularly trained at Gold's Gym in PB, NEVER. As part owner of PB Gold's Jim and Rick Stephens hated each other.
Second, Jim was in contest shape year round, NEVER off season.
Third, Jim was 290 in conest shape-he weighed in right in front of me on several occassions. Nasser was fat as a pig off season.
Now, I think Boobs is Nasser. T
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hahahha, exactly, the time tested, "you had to see him in person" defense. ::)
funny thing was ive "seen yates and nasser in person" and you know what squaddy? Yates killed Nasser.
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funny thing was ive "seen yates and nasser in person" and you know what squaddy? Yates killed Nasser.
You got that right. ::)
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Hey Bobboobs, I have to ask....
Jim Quinn used to workout at the same gym as Huge Nasser in the mid-90's at the Pacific Beach Gold's Gym. Jim regularly on nubaine and always very negative, extremely depressed and never really trained hard, except for pics in photo shoots. He did not want to be a bodybuilder, he told just everyone that he wanted to have a girlfriend and have a family. He had NO detail, yes he was veiny but to that extreme that he looked inflamed. He did not have any proportion, symmetry or flowing muscle groups at all. In the offseason he was 285 lbs, not precontest!!!! Also, being as tall as Quinn makes your bodyweight mean even less. In contrast, Nasser competed even at 295 lbs in the European tours!
Jim Quinn only looked good standing. As soon as he got into a pose he just looked extremely bad, unproportinate and weird. All his weaknesses came out. For people like Quinn, a bodybuilding contest without poses would have been the best, lol.
Quinn had one of the worst physiques ever.
Later Quinn had to move to New York where he started being a personal trainer as his TwinLab contract was over.
You said you never knew who Jim Quinn was, so how would you come up with all of the above?? You're either lying, or you're Nasser?? Which is it??
And I hardly doubt these "Quinns" were harder than Nasser otherwise more people would have heard of them!
Which is it???
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Hahaha..... bobboobs is getting more delusional by the day.
First, Jim Quinn NEVER regularly trained at Gold's Gym in PB, NEVER. As part owner of PB Gold's Jim and Rick Stephens hated each other.
Second, Jim was in contest shape year round, NEVER off season.
Third, Jim was 290 in conest shape-he weighed in right in front of me on several occassions. Nasser was fat as a pig off season.
Now, I think Boobs is Nasser. T
Stick to comparing Jim Quinn to the likes of Greg Kovacs. They're both tall, compete at heavy bodyweights, never accomplished much in bodybuilding (relative to Nasser), and both look like shit. I'm actually not going to even going to compare the two anymore because it's just such a silly comparison, so no more Nasser vs. Quinn debate from my side.
Hey Bobboobs, I have to ask....
You said you never knew who Jim Quinn was, so how would you come up with all of the above?? You're either lying, or you're Nasser?? Which is it??
Which is it???
I had obviously heard of Jim Quinn and seen some pictures - I downplayed that a bit to undermine Quinn. I also did some extra research in the hours after that post and before the isnightful in-depth post about him. ;)
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Hahaha..... bobboobs is getting more delusional by the day.
First, Jim Quinn NEVER regularly trained at Gold's Gym in PB, NEVER. As part owner of PB Gold's Jim and Rick Stephens hated each other.
Second, Jim was in contest shape year round, NEVER off season.
Third, Jim was 290 in conest shape-he weighed in right in front of me on several occassions. Nasser was fat as a pig off season.
Now, I think Boobs is Nasser. T
JV knows his shit. JQ would only train at Golds when Rick usually wasn't there...which wasn't too often.
Nasser would be dwarfed by JQ but honestly, the two of them weren't at their best at the same time.
What is true...JQ used to be marked down because he was too big & too freaky for the time. Bodybuilding just wasn't ready for him & it wasn't JQ's life passion. Being a partner with Rick wasn't one either.
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JV knows his shit. JQ would only train at Golds when Rick usually wasn't there...which wasn't too often.
No JV doesnt know his shit - earlier he was saying that Nasser owns "nothing" and is broke simply becuase Nasser's name didnt come up on a few public searches, as though all of everyone's wealth is searchable to the public. ::)
Nasser would be dwarfed by JQ but honestly, the two of them weren't at their best at the same time.
And you just proved (once again) that you dont know shit either. A 285 lb man at over 6 feet even at low bodyfat % has smaller muscles than someone who is 5'11" at 285 lbs at 3% bodyfat while being water depleted. In the post-Olympia European shows where he's not as peaked/depleted he has competed at up to 295 lbs like I said earlier. Even at 300 offseason lbs Nasser is ripped at 5'11". He guest posed in Edmonton at 305 and didnt look too far from contest condition. Yet he would get "dwarfed" by someone over 6 feet tall and under 290 lbs? ::)
Even throwing all these numbers out, all you have to do is look at the shrugs picture comparison I posted to realize that Nasser dwarfs Quinn, not the other way around!
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nasser 300 pounds, 150 pounds of that is oil you fucken idiot, shittest bber to ever live
GO TEAM OIL BLOATED WIFE BEATERS
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Pictures describe Nasser's size better than my words can, so here's two pics for anyone who still thinks that Jim Quinn would "dwarf" Nasser or even look comparable! The first pic is guest posing in the Bronx in 98 at 311 lbs and the 2nd is guest posing in 95 in San Diego at 324 lbs . Anyone who now claims that Jim Quinn's 6+ feet in height and 285 lbs is comparable to Nasser is just a troll.
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those offseason p[ics of Nasser jsut confirm the legendary status of Nasser
the 1st true mass monster and way ahead of his time
310 pounds with visible abs
is jonny vegas one of those buck o fives as kamali calls them
- closet homosexuals, 55 kg body weight, with no life except internet hating?
touche!
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No JV doesnt know his shit - earlier he was saying that Nasser owns "nothing" and is broke simply becuase Nasser's name didnt come up on a few public searches, as though all of everyone's wealth is searchable to the public. ::)
And you just proved (once again) that you dont know shit either. A 285 lb man at over 6 feet even at low bodyfat % has smaller muscles than someone who is 5'11" at 285 lbs at 3% bodyfat while being water depleted. In the post-Olympia European shows where he's not as peaked/depleted he has competed at up to 295 lbs like I said earlier. Even at 300 offseason lbs Nasser is ripped at 5'11". He guest posed in Edmonton at 305 and didnt look too far from contest condition. Yet he would get "dwarfed" by someone over 6 feet tall and under 290 lbs? ::)
Even throwing all these numbers out, all you have to do is look at the shrugs picture comparison I posted to realize that Nasser dwarfs Quinn, not the other way around!
Bodybuilding is the art of illusion.....&
to have muscle cock sucking delusional people like you
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the 1st true mass monster and way ahead of his time
310 pounds with visible abs
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199065.0;attach=232309;image)
Hahaha.... Hey Pinnochio, your nose just grew 2 feet with that whopper
Here, let me fix your post.
the 1st true mass monster and way ahead of his time
310 pounds with the biggest fucking GH gut known to man
Fixed. :o
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199065.0;attach=231791;image)
more evidence of why the 90's were the best bbing ever showed.
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I saw Nasser at the 1996 Olympia in Chicago live, and I was not impressed at all, to be honest with you. Sure, he was the best bodybuilder onstage from the front when standing relaxed in the symmetry round, but he got owned by Yates at everything else. Even in the front mandatories Yates smoked him. I don't give Nasser even the abs-and-thighs. From the sides, Yates' pectoral and lat thickness made Nasser look like a kid. The thickness and look that Yates had to his muscles is something that you guys don't understand. The dude made the other guys disappear. Only Ronnie was at that guy's level of muscular development.
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I saw Nasser at the 1996 Olympia in Chicago live, and I was not impressed at all, to be honest with you. Sure, he was the best bodybuilder onstage from the front when standing relaxed in the symmetry round, but he got owned by Yates at everything else. Even in the front mandatories Yates smoked him. I don't give Nasser even the abs-and-thighs. From the sides, Yates' pectoral and lat thickness made Nasser look like a kid. The thickness and look that Yates had to his muscles is something that you guys don't understand. The dude made the other guys disappear. Only Ronnie was at that guy's level of muscular development.
Exactly..... Once Nasser truned around against Dorioan it was all over.
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Exactly..... Once Nasser truned around against Dorioan it was all over.
No, not only around. Yates crushed him from the front too on all mandatories, and his overral muscle thickness and rock-hardness made Nasser look like a kid. Naser was only better than Yates from the front during the symmetry round.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199065.0;attach=232309;image)
Hahaha.... Hey Pinnochio, your nose just grew 2 feet with that whopper
Here, let me fix your post.
Fixed. :o
Hahahaha, picking the front double biceps pose to point out how visible abs are? ::) That's like trying to assess someone's quads from a rear double biceps pose :)
Actually, his abs in offseason from double biceps pose are about as visibible as many competitors in contest condition! Look at the MM poses even at higher bodyweights and he has clearly distinct, separated abs.
No, not only around. Yates crushed him from the front too on all mandatories, and his overral muscle thickness and rock-hardness made Nasser look like a kid. Naser was only better than Yates from the front during the symmetry round.
Another one of those mystiques towards Dorian's favour that can only be seen in person because pictures are biased towards Nasser for some reason. ::)
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Another one of those mystiques towards Dorian's favour that can only be seen in person because pictures are biased towards Nasser for some reason. ::)
Again, I was there and am telling you what I saw upfront. I don't care about either bodybuilder. The reason why you can't see the truth is because you have Nasser's crothch blocking your view. ;)
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Again, I was there and am telling you what I saw upfront. I don't care about either bodybuilder. The reason why you can't see the truth is because you have Nasser's crothch blocking your view. ;)
Another one of those mystiques towards Dorian's favour that can only be seen in person because pictures are biased towards Nasser for some reason. ::)
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Another one of those mystiques towards Dorian's favour that can only be seen in person because pictures are biased towards Nasser for some reason.
Apparently, the judges and the fans also saw it. No one booed when Dorian was announced first. Even from the front, Nasser only looked better than Dorian when standing relaxed. Yates crushed him both on the front lat spread and abs-and-thighs. Yates was also much thicker than Nasser; when they turned to the sides in the quarter turn, Nasser diappeared. From the back, Yates just slaughtered Nasser. Let me make it simple for you to understand: it wasn't even close. Yates crushed Nasser. Both the judges and the fans agreed.
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Apparently, the judges and the fans also saw it. No one booed when Dorian was announced first. Even from the front, Nasser only looked better than Dorian when standing relaxed. Yates crushed him both on the front lat spread and abs-and-thighs. Yates was also much thicker than Nasser; when they turned to the sides in the quarter turn, Nasser diappeared. From the back, Yates just slaughtered Nasser. Let me make it simple for you to understand: it wasn't even close. Yates crushed Nasser. Both the judges and the fans agreed.
You can't speak on behalf of all fans! And the judges have no credibility, especially when you look at the 97 outcome. Even Flex magazine quoted in their Olympia coverage that Yates' vicotry "brought more questions than answers!" Like I said, and I can keep repeating, there is no mystique towards Dorian's favour that can only be seen in person because pictures are biased towards Nasser for some reason.
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You can't speak on behalf of all fans! And the judges have no credibility, especially when you look at the 97 outcome. Even Flex magazine quoted in their Olympia coverage that Yates' vicotry "brought more questions than answers!" Like I said, and I can keep repeating, there is no mystique towards Dorian's favour that can only be seen in person because pictures are biased towards Nasser for some reason.
Credibility of someone at the show > you.
It's no coincidence that everyone who saw Yates in person says the same thing, it wasn't even close.
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Credibility of someone at the show > you.
It's no coincidence that everyone who saw Yates in person says the same thing, it wasn't even close.
"Everyone" ::) Or one person replying here?
And credibility of one person at the show 12 years ago is not > pictures taken at the show that can be viewed by the world.
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Even from the front, Nasser only looked better than Dorian when standing relaxed. Let me make it simple for you to understand: it wasn't even close. Yates crushed Nasser.
::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199065.0;attach=231791;image)
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"Everyone" ::) Or one person replying here?
And credibility of one person at the show 12 years ago is not > pictures taken at the show that can be viewed by the world.
I've read the same thing over and over again from multiple members, specifically in the Truce thread.
Why would the above member be saying these things about Yates and Nasser? It seems pointless to "make up" stuff like that.
I never once read of Yates being boo'd after winning unlike Coleman in 2002.
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It's funny that Yates' and Nasser look the same size in this shot eventhough Nasser is standing much closer to the camera and probably weighs a good 10lbs more.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199065.0;attach=231791;image)
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It's funny that Yates' and Nasser look the same size in this shot eventhough Nasser is standing much closer to the camera and probably weighs a good 10lbs more.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199065.0;attach=231791;image)
Bolded text = Most delusional comment I've read on this site so far.
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Again, I was there and am telling you what I saw upfront. I don't care about either bodybuilder. The reason why you can't see the truth is because you have Nasser's crothch blocking your view. ;)
BogBoobs= OWNED!
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You can't speak on behalf of all fans! And the judges have no credibility, especially when you look at the 97 outcome. Even Flex magazine quoted in their Olympia coverage that Yates' vicotry "brought more questions than answers!" Like I said, and I can keep repeating, there is no mystique towards Dorian's favour that can only be seen in person because pictures are biased towards Nasser for some reason.
Flex magazine also said Yates was the clear winner , maybe you missed that part ;)
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Apparently, the judges and the fans also saw it. No one booed when Dorian was announced first. Even from the front, Nasser only looked better than Dorian when standing relaxed. Yates crushed him both on the front lat spread and abs-and-thighs. Yates was also much thicker than Nasser; when they turned to the sides in the quarter turn, Nasser diappeared. From the back, Yates just slaughtered Nasser. Let me make it simple for you to understand: it wasn't even close. Yates crushed Nasser. Both the judges and the fans agreed.
They booed at the 1997 Mr. Olympia.. hahahaha
How could judges ignore ripped up muscles if for no other reason than bias? :-\
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They booed at the 1997 Mr. Olympia.. hahahaha
How could judges ignore ripped up muscles if for no other reason than bias? :-\
Nasser from Flex Magazine Dec 1997
" Afterward , the runner-up was philosophical. " I'm happy with second because it is my biggest honor in 14 years of bodybuilding. I still think I was good enough to win, but the main thing is I promised to come here in the best shape of my life, and I kept my promise . I want to congratulate Dorian Yates. I think he is the best Mr Olympia ever and he has proved he's a great champion. But no one is unbeatable. Dorian is not a machine; he's a human being. Taking the second spot makes me even hungrier for the top spot. I will win the Mr. Olympia title. "
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1997 Yates is making Nasser look tiny
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tiny? hahahaha
Dorian is getting oversized by Nasser.
Nasser from Flex Magazine Dec 1997
" Afterward , the runner-up was philosophical. " I'm happy with second because it is my biggest honor in 14 years of bodybuilding. I still think I was good enough to win, but the main thing is I promised to come here in the best shape of my life, and I kept my promise . I want to congratulate Dorian Yates. I think he is the best Mr Olympia ever and he has proved he's a great champion. But no one is unbeatable. Dorian is not a machine; he's a human being. Taking the second spot makes me even hungrier for the top spot. I will win the Mr. Olympia title. "
It's called modesty, dumbass.
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tiny? hahahaha
Dorian is getting oversized by Nasser.
It's called modesty, dumbass.
Yeah oversized lmfao this is exactly why Nasser lost in 97 and modesty my ass he said he could have won thats not being modest it's being honest , just like when he said Yates was the best ever ;)
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Yeah oversized lmfao this is exactly why Nasser lost in 97 and modesty my ass he said he could have won thats not being modest it's being honest , just like when he said Yates was the best ever ;)
You spun Ronnie's comments the same way. It's become a shitty habbit of yours.
Nasser is less defined, but much wider in that shot. Sean Ray looks like a midget as usual.
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You spun Ronnie's comments the same way. It's become a shitty habbit of yours.
Nasser is less defined, but much wider in that shot. Sean Ray looks like a midget as usual.
lmfao spun Ronnie's comments its no coincidence all nut-huggers like to guess what their hero is saying when they bow down to a superior bodybuilder and Nasser is MUCH wider? lmfao kid get you glasses because he may be much wider than Ray he's not touching Yates for width in that pic or density or thickness again that is exactly why he lost in 97
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lmfao spun Ronnie's comments its no coincidence all nut-huggers like to guess what their hero is saying when they bow down to a superior bodybuilder and Nasser is MUCH wider? lmfao kid get you glasses because he may be much wider than Ray he's not touching Yates for width in that pic or density or thickness again that is exactly why he lost in 97
Nasser is winning that shot.
Post some 1997 pics, ND. Not angles showing your hero winning, but everything you have.
IFBB covered everything up so there's hardly any shots of the 1997 Mr. Olympia.
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Nasser is winning that shot.
Post some 1997 pics, ND. Not angles showing your hero winning, but everything you have.
IFBB covered everything up so there's hardly any shots of the 1997 Mr. Olympia.
You're delusional Nasser doesn't win ANY back shots even next to a less than perfect Yates , again Nasser was happy with second , and you just contradicted yourself you claim Nasser is winning that shot and then tell me to post pics with angles that don't make Yates win the shot lol
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Based on those shots, it's very clear that Yates is the winner. The real question is how did Nasser beat Levrone? It looks like Nasser's lat is torn on that rear double bi ???
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Based on those shots, it's very clear that Yates is the winner. The real question is how did Nasser beat Levrone? It looks like Nasser's lat is torn on that rear double bi ???
:D
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Why not post pics of Dorian's ripped up and crappy arms? Why about his torn quad? :D
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You can't speak on behalf of all fans!
Oh, I can certainly speak on behalf of the fans who were there, because I was one of them and no one booed Dorian's win. It is a myth that Nasser was better than Yates from the front. this is only true in the symmetry round. Dorian won 2 of the 3 front mandatories without a doubt! No ïfs", "ands" or "buts"! In the quarter turns, the superior development of Yates' pecs and lats was obvious in that Nasser disppeared next to him. From the back: caboom! Dorian finished him! Also, it is noteworthy to point out that Yates had a look to his muscles that separated him from all other competitors. As shredded as Shawn Ray was, he looked soft next to Yates. It was sick, man!
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Based on the pics ND posted Nasser clearly wins. And ND is still not posting all the pics from Flex, just the back comparisons and the front comparisons that are not even close-ups between the two. Wonder why!
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Why not post pics of Dorian's ripped up and crappy arms? Why about his torn quad? :D
hahahaha....you reek of DESPERATION, obvious sign that you have nothing anymore, you've been crushed as usual hahahahah
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Why not post pics of Dorian's ripped up and crappy arms? Why about his torn quad? :D
You asked me to post pics I did , then what do you do? you bitch.............. just like a woman :-\
fyi you can see his torn muscles if you look harder enough ;)
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1997 Yates is making Nasser look tiny
Yates completing a lat spread while the others are not.
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Nasser from Flex Magazine Dec 1997
" Afterward , the runner-up was philosophical. " I'm happy with second because it is my biggest honor in 14 years of bodybuilding. I still think I was good enough to win, but the main thing is I promised to come here in the best shape of my life, and I kept my promise . I want to congratulate Dorian Yates. I think he is the best Mr Olympia ever and he has proved he's a great champion. But no one is unbeatable. Dorian is not a machine; he's a human being. Taking the second spot makes me even hungrier for the top spot. I will win the Mr. Olympia title. "
Read Nasser's latest - he clearly states how he held back at times to avoid getting on even worse side of judges than he was.
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Oh, I can certainly speak on behalf of the fans who were there, because I was one of them and no one booed Dorian's win. It is a myth that Nasser was better than Yates from the front. this is only true in the symmetry round. Dorian won 2 of the 3 front mandatories without a doubt! No ïfs", "ands" or "buts"! In the quarter turns, the superior development of Yates' pecs and lats was obvious in that Nasser disppeared next to him. From the back: caboom! Dorian finished him! Also, it is noteworthy to point out that Yates had a look to his muscles that separated him from all other competitors. As shredded as Shawn Ray was, he looked soft next to Yates. It was sick, man!
Brutal ownage of BobBoobs.
Based on the pics ND posted Nasser clearly wins. And ND is still not posting all the pics from Flex, just the back comparisons and the front comparisons that are not even close-ups between the two. Wonder why!
Brutal delusion from BobBoobs.
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Based on the pics ND posted Nasser clearly wins. And ND is still not posting all the pics from Flex, just the back comparisons and the front comparisons that are not even close-ups between the two. Wonder why!
Just like you didn't post all of the quotes from Flex ;) and 13 individual judges choose Yates as the better bodybuilder
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Nasser got a fucking gift over Levrone in 97 :-\
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Read Nasser's latest - he clearly states how he held back at times to avoid getting on even worse side of judges than he was.
Again he wasn't holding back he stated he thinks he was good enough to win , how's that holding back? and spare me the nonsense of avoiding the judges , Shawn Ray was one of the harshest critics of the judges and he placed second multiple times
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Yates completing a lat spread while the others are not.
Shawn isn't the sad part is Nasser is :-\
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1997 Yates is making Nasser look tiny
owned
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:o
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Dorian's quads suck.
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I'm starting to get tempted to go through my old Flex magazine collection - I think I can find them hidden somewhere, and buy a cheap scanner just to scan more comparisons between Nasser and Yates - the ones that ND chooses not to post purposely!
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I'm starting to get tempted to go through my old Flex magazine collection - I think I can find them hidden somewhere, and buy a cheap scanner just to scan more comparisons between Nasser and Yates - the ones that ND chooses not to post purposely!
translation: I know Nasser is being owned by Yates as well as several other competitors in all the pictures posted hahahahahahahah
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translation: I know Nasser is being owned by Yates as well as several other competitors in all the pictures posted hahahahahahahah
translation: I am NarcissticDiety's lapdog.
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Dorian owns Nasser El Littlebody here:
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Dorian owns Nasser El Littlebody here:
hahaha even though u stretched Dorian out he still looks worse, because your photoshopping can't add the hardness/vascularity that Nasser has ;)