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Just watched Face the Nation and McCain pretty much promised he'd attack Iran ASAP ::)
A different clip that sums him up pretty good I think.
McCain is fucking nuts. ::)
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I will never understand what anyone would find appealing about this man.
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I will never understand what anyone would find appealing about this man.
man, he's gone from someone I halfway respected to downright scary as hell. After these years of Bush, i was really hoping we could end up with someone who didn't come across like they were heading us for total global annihilation. Republican/Dem whatever. But no... One of the candidates for president is yelling war MORE than Bush... SHIT, if this is what the guy sounds like while he's running, what will he be like in office when he doesn't have to put on a good face for votes ::)
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Anyone voting for this mother fucker should be shot on site.
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Wait and see..
Obama won't be elected because he is black...
War baby!
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If we invade Iran then we should all leave this fucking country.
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If we invade Iran I then we should all leave this fucking country.
papers please... ahhh... we've been waiting for you.... GUARDS! Have a seat in this small room Mr. Slapper, we've got plans for you.
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I guess you could say a vote for McCain is a vote for war with Iran.
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hahaha. If he continues his "War cries" he will alienate himself from the 70% of americans who want out. However bush may make sure he's elected thru some corruptive acts anyway.
In that case get your survival gear together, buy as much grain as you can and head for a drinkable water source... :-[
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He'll attack after some bullshit intelligence report, or simply my provoking that nation to a point where they have no choice but to strike.
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hahaha. If he continues his "War cries" he will alienate himself from the 70% of americans who want out. However bush may make sure he's elected thru some corruptive acts anyway.
In that case get your survival gear together, buy as much grain as you can and head for a drinkable water source... :-[
Bush just seems to want to get teh fuck out and go retire in Paraguay.......he's all about bring peace to the Middle East and giving money to Africa these days.
Wouldn't be surprised if he disliked McCain personally, as McCain has quite an abrasive personality, sold Bush out a couple times, and has a different value system too.
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He'll attack after some bullshit intelligence report, or simply my provoking that nation to a point where they have no choice but to strike.
America is already putting pressure on banks not to lend money to Iran as well as other financial pressure's on the country. They are putting on the sqeeze.
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papers please... ahhh... we've been waiting for you.... GUARDS! Have a seat in this small room Mr. Slapper, we've got plans for you.
Hey, they can shove a finger up my ass for all care. I speak my mind because I live in a (supposedly) free country.
Going back to the issue: If we invade Iran then anything that happens to us afterwards, ANYTHING, here and abroad, is more than duly justified. Aside from the fact that we'd lose any "face" we have left in the international community.
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We're not going to attack....only happen if....we are blatantly attacked....not Tonkin gulf but blatantly....Israel says they will attack no matter what...or we get undenyable proof they are building nukes. The rest of the middle east does not want a nuclear armed Iran. If we wait to long then it won't matter and they'll have nukes..forcing us to live with it. Israel won't.
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[...]or we get undenyable proof they are building nukes[...]
You fucking kidding me right? We just invaded a country based on a story right out of CSI Secaucus and you use the word "undeniable".
Some people live in a different dimension I guess.
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You fucking kidding me right? We just invaded a country based on a story right out of CSI Secaucus and you use the word "undeniable".
Some people live in a different dimension I guess.
there was a report out a few months back saying the Iran nuke thing way overblown. ::)
Fuck Israel. They already run this country so we don't need to be chasing after them like lapdogs and provoking angry muslims for their sake.
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You fucking kidding me right? We just invaded a country based on a story right out of CSI Secaucus and you use the word "undeniable".
Some people live in a different dimension I guess.
um yeah...Bush made a mistake that he won't do again.....i chose my words carefully. The next administration will not go down that road..if they want to get reelected.
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um yeah...Bush made a mistake that he won't do again.....i chose my words carefully. The next administration will not go down that road..if they want to get reelected.
A mistake?
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Yeah..what do u want... I could slash both my wrists and slam my fists into a wall to expound the point... a msitake based on either shitty Intel or ignorance of good intel...or a a pre written agenda...regardless the next admin won't do anything without solid proof that we can all agree on. I don't think we're going
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Attacking Iran is something that needs to happen so...the sooner the better.
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Attacking Iran is something that needs to happen so...the sooner the better.
At least you're honest and use the word "attacking". As opposed to "bringing democracy" to them.
Why does it need to happen though?
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Yeah..what do u want... I could slash both my wrists and slam my fists into a wall to expound the point... a msitake based on either shitty Intel or ignorance of good intel...or a a pre written agenda...regardless the next admin won't do anything without solid proof that we can all agree on. I don't think we're going
It's called the PNAC document of 2000. Project for a New American Century. Written by a group of leaders and thinkers.
It very clearly dictated the need for US expansion in Arabia to secure oil and bases.
It said we needed a catalyzing event, a "new pearl harbor" to facilitate the overseas troop movement and public support for such resource procurement. A year later, 911 became that event.
have you heard of teh document, HH6?
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Yeah....The window for the US to attack Iran has closed. Israel is preping to go after them. They have had meetings with their good friends, the Turks over the last month. Most likely to clear airspace. If anybody is going after Iran I'd have to say Israel, at this point.
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I'm all for Israel bombing the shit out of Iran.
Seriously, I'm okay with it. It's between the two of them, and in the end, the US will reap benefits from Israel smacking them around.
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They also seem to be preparing to deal with Hizbuallah as well.
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It's called the PNAC document of 2000. Project for a New American Century. Written by a group of leaders and thinkers.
It very clearly dictated the need for US expansion in Arabia to secure oil and bases.
It said we needed a catalyzing event, a "new pearl harbor" to facilitate the overseas troop movement and public support for such resource procurement. A year later, 911 became that event.
have you heard of teh document, HH6?
headhunter,
I was really looking fwd to your response on this one.
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Well sorry bro...I can't argue. These guys have been setting up for along time. Now did they do 911. No I don't think so. I don't think u need to to take an active hand in something like this. They missed Bin Laden several times under Clinton. If I were to believe in somthing like this, i wouldn't blame just the Neo's but everybody associated with the American government...if i was blaming anybody which I'm not. I own 3 SUV's. The oil must flow. 240 read "The Shell Game" by Steven Alten. He usually writes sci-fi stuff but has written an excellant fiction book laced with facts about another 911 like attack to sow up our control of Iran. Look on amazon for the full plot. Pick it up. the facts in the book made me look at some of the 911 stuff more closely.
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Cool.
The most interesting part was the authors, who wrote this big plan.
Wolfowitz, bolton, rummy, jeb, cheney, and a slew of others who ended up being most of the bush cabinet and iraq team.
they planned it, they told the world. We voted them in. We gave them the keys and they did exactly what they said they'd do. And in 20 years, we'll be glad they did it.
That's why politics is so weird. We like to bitch about those in charge, but they're surprisingly honest. Aside from "Iraq has WMD", I haven't heard cheney lie. He's said from the beginning "we're doing this so our grandkids have a stronger america". And he's right. That's why I am part-time neotaint myself, albeit an honest one.
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Just watched Face the Nation and McCain pretty much promised he'd attack Iran ASAP ::)
All this would only happen if he won the election, which he has about zero chance of doing. :-\
The Republicans managed to fcuk Rudy over.
Rudy would've walked over Obama and probably Hillary too IMO.
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mccain might be trying to scare iran.
you know that whole 'october surprise' in 1979/80?
Repubs were dying to nuke somebody and Iran looked tasty. They released the hostages within hours of reagan taking the oath. Of course, there was some funny business with the release date, so you dont know who to believe on that one.
The idea is that iran would succumb to our "give us your fvcking oil or die" demands about 5 minutes after Mccain takes office. it could work!
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The Republicans managed to fcuk Rudy over.
Rudy would've walked over Obama and probably Hillary too IMO.
ya got that right.
But Rudy did it to Rudy, IMO. 3 reasons.
1) Everywhere he campaigned, his numbers dropped. In person, he was a stale man, not the 911 hero TIME had painted him as.
2) Fear card... people are tired of it. He tried to scare up votes. We're numb to fear after 7 years of Bush scaring us everytime it's politically beneficial (google nexus of politics and terror)
3) 911... his calling card. He used it on EVERYTHING until the media started calling him on it. Plus, whether you believe 911 was an inside job or don't, 67% of Americans woudl like to see a new investigation (Zogby 2007), so at the very least 911 is a question mark, and so was rudy. In 2001, I considered Rudy one of the greatest americans. In 2007, I would have voted for anyone but rudy. There are millions of americans - lifelong repubs who smell shit all over 911 story - that feel the same way.
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All this would only happen if he won the election, which he has about zero chance of doing. :-\
The Republicans managed to fcuk Rudy over.
Rudy would've walked over Obama and probably Hillary too IMO.
I think Rudy did a pretty good job of fucking himself over.