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Title: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 19, 2008, 09:26:30 PM
Hey I know a good bodybuilder when I see one and Phil Heath is the definition of that so here we go:  The Official Getbig Phil Heath Appreciation Thread. 



Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Alex23 on February 19, 2008, 09:31:11 PM
Beyond the physique, Phil is a college educated guy with no tattoos, a lovely wife, a business sense and plenty of support from non shady "industry people".

A guy we can finaly look up to and won't be disapointed.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 19, 2008, 09:32:16 PM
Muscletime has some really great photography.  I have yet to have the time to go surf through all their archives that people have been telling me about but I bet there's some really sick stuff in there just waiting to be pulled out and re-examined.  Anyway they got some good ones of Heath from this past weekend too.

Heath wasn't even dialed in at this past weekend's show.  Here's the difference between peaking and getting ready.  Phil's ready to peak here; not peaked.  He will peak in 2 weeks which will be just insane.   
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 19, 2008, 09:33:46 PM
totally pwns levrone.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Red Hook on February 19, 2008, 09:34:59 PM
Beyond the physique, Phil is a college educated guy with no tattoos, a lovely wife, a business sense and plenty of support from non shady "industry people".

A guy we can finaly look up to and won't be disapointed.

what did the mr.gift get his degree in?
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 19, 2008, 09:37:08 PM
These thighs look pretty contest ready here but you can tell in his back shots and particularly by looking at his side thigh poses that he still has the last layer of water to pull off so what this suggests to me is that Phil has the potential to show thighs more separated than any you've ever seen soon.  Phil's legs remind me of a Marcus Haley/Kevin Levrone variant.  
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 19, 2008, 09:37:34 PM
totally pwns levrone.

at what ???

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Matt C on February 19, 2008, 09:38:11 PM
I felt that when he turned pro he got there in large part due to the strength of his shoulders, arms, and overall conditioning.  Now he has quickly brought up his legs to the world class level.  His chest is much like Lee Priest's in that I don't think it will ever be a strong point exactly (Arnoldesque), but I think his back will quickly become the best in the world.  He will be Mr. Olympia one day if he wants to be.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 19, 2008, 09:40:13 PM
at what ???

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at life, brother.

Start with that back, etc.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Red Hook on February 19, 2008, 09:40:56 PM
I felt that when he turned pro he got there in large part due to the strength of his shoulders, arms, and overall conditioning.  Now he has quickly brought up his legs to the world class level.  His chest is much like Lee Priest's in that I don't think it will ever be a strong point exactly (Arnoldesque), but I think his back will quickly become the best in the world.  He will be Mr. Olympia one day if he wants to be.

your shoulders, arms and overall conditioning are not too bad either Matt
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Alex23 on February 19, 2008, 09:41:31 PM
These thighs look pretty contest ready here but you can tell in his back shots and particularly by looking at his side thigh poses that he still has the last layer of water to pull off so what this suggests to me is that Phil has the potential to show thighs more separated than any you've ever seen soon.  Phil's legs remind me of a Marcus Haley/Kevin Levrone variant.  

If he dials in at a higher degree like you predict, would a last year or even olympia Martinez even have a chance?

I doubt...
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Matt C on February 19, 2008, 09:42:23 PM
your shoulders, arms and overall conditioning are not too bad either Matt

lol.

Question for everyone: is Heath at Levrone's level yet?  I would say not quite yet...but I suspect he will get there and possibly even surpass it.  My evidence for this is that he has managed to continually improve since he turned pro and has not reached a plateau yet.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 19, 2008, 09:43:29 PM
at life, brother.

Start with that back, etc.

what has heath done that Mr. Levrone hasn't?

I have to admit I do like that he has no tattoos but he's lucky to compete in this era

if he ever placed ahead of the guys of the 90's he would really earn the name "Mr. Gift"

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: SuperNatural on February 19, 2008, 09:44:03 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 19, 2008, 09:45:23 PM
at what ???

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Earl settle down.  Phil Heath respects the legends and that's another thing I like about him.  Phil's from the school of bodybuilding that was taught on the internet between 2002 and present.  The collective body of ideals that we all agreed in retrospect were the best of what bodybuilding has to offer after having been to the edge and falling off.  How do I know?  I see his influences both in his posing and his physique.  He literally has bodyparts that look like the bodyparts of other pros.  Just like Shawn Ray had muscularity that resembled John Brown's and just like Flex Wheeler had bodyparts and a quality to his hardness that you can see glimpses of in Charles Glass's competitive physique.  It's a phenomenon that I know happens now because I've seen it too many times.  If you focus on the bodyparts you like of other pros you will sooner or later start to show some of the same qualities that those pros do/did.

I don't know how many of you are taking note but Phil's trying to pay hommage to the greats with his shots and he's also in the process of carving out his own signature poses.  I think he's still finding his way in some of the shots but he's working on some classic trademarks.  His crab most muscular is already "Heath's Most Muscular."  

Here's Heath doing Levrone and then Wheeler.  With influences like those how do you not construct something incredible.    
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 19, 2008, 09:45:33 PM
lol.

Question for everyone: is Heath at Levrone's level yet? 

no

let's see him win one arnold before we talk about him in the same breath as the legendary Maryland Muscle Machine

although winning the arnold today is a little easier than it was for Mr. Levrone

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 19, 2008, 09:46:22 PM
what has heath done that Mr. Levrone hasn't?

I have to admit I do like that he has no tattoos but he's lucky to compete in this era

if he ever placed ahead of the guys of the 90's he would really earn the name "Mr. Gift"

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he's on an unprecedented winning streak. He's like Dorian Yate, born to dominate.

And he pwns Levrone on back, chest, arms, legs, for starters. 

He also seems to be a normal guy. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 19, 2008, 09:49:53 PM
he's on an unprecedented winning streak. He's like Dorian Yate, born to dominate.

And he pwns Levrone on back, chest, arms, legs, for starters. 

He also seems to be a normal guy. 

hahaha you just lost all credibility heath has TERRIBLE chest

the rest of the stuff you posted is pure nonsense

born to dominate yet skips the olympia ::)

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: SuperNatural on February 19, 2008, 09:50:47 PM
Making major improvements
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 19, 2008, 09:52:08 PM
Earl settle down.  Phil Heath respects the legends and that's another thing I like about him.      

he'd be an idiot not to respect them

he does seem like a good guy but his physique is seriously overrated

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: SuperNatural on February 19, 2008, 09:52:27 PM
Still improving
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 19, 2008, 09:53:03 PM
Making major improvements

is phil a believer in training chest? ???

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Disgusted on February 19, 2008, 09:53:19 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 19, 2008, 09:53:37 PM
hahaha you just lost all credibility heath has TERRIBLE chest

the rest of the stuff you posted is pure nonsense

born to dominate yet skips the olympia ::)

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Yeah, but his chest is better than Levrone's ....didn't say it was better than Haney's or Schwarzenegger's, did I?

Levrone had a chest atht was overshadowed by his delts and tris anyway, and then he had the unfortunate tear. 

It's Heath's time, yo.  Don't hate, appreciate. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 19, 2008, 09:54:32 PM
Here's Heath next to Sylvio.  I'm only posting it so you can appreciate Phil's arms here.  They have a look that make you wonder things like his brachialis and brachioradialis and lateral tricep head didn't just sit up off his arm even before he started training due to his insane separation.  Everything in his arm sits there on top of something else just sticking out.  These are genetics for arms.  Very few guys have ever shown this level of separation in their arms.  
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Red Hook on February 19, 2008, 09:55:33 PM
Here's Heath next to Sylvio.  I'm only posting it so you can appreciate Phil's arms here.  They have a look that make you wonder things like his brachialis and brachioradialis and lateral tricep head didn't just sit up off his arm even before he started training due to his insane separation.  Everything in his arm sits there on top of something else just sticking out.  These are genetics for arms.  Very few guys have ever shown this level of separation in their arms. 

that's not Silvio, that is Tony Freeman  ::)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 19, 2008, 09:58:27 PM
Matt post that picture of you and Heath together where he's flexing his arm.

Here's another great shot from Muscletime.  This is what I was talking about Heath still trying to find the best poses for himself.  I'm not so sure the squatting thing works so well for him, or maybe it's the angle that the pic was taken from, but interesting nonetheless and you can see the real thickness to his bi's here. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 19, 2008, 10:00:16 PM
Yeah, but his chest is better than Levrone's ....didn't say it was better than Haney's or Schwarzenegger's, did I?

Levrone had a chest atht was overshadowed by his delts and tris anyway, and then he had the unfortunate tear. 

It's Heath's time, yo.  Don't hate, appreciate. 

and heath's arms are too big for his narrow shoulders and tiny chest

let's see heath pull off this pose with his "chest"

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51555.0;attach=52804;image)

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 19, 2008, 10:02:20 PM
See there's still a meniscule layer of water that can still come off this guy.  But the reason he still looks so impressive is because he is RIPPED already.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Disgusted on February 19, 2008, 10:02:41 PM
Earl I was posting that photo as you did so I will use this one instead.... Phil is awesome but he's not Kevin yet. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 19, 2008, 10:03:03 PM
and heath's arms are too big for his narrow shoulders and tiny chest

let's see heath pull off this pose with his "chest"

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51555.0;attach=52804;image)

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Levrone looks great there, but Phil's side-chest has the potential to be much better. It would be better right now, but he doesn't know how to hit it right yet. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Disgusted on February 19, 2008, 10:03:55 PM
See there's still a meniscule layer of water that can still come off this guy.  But the reason he still looks so impressive is because he is RIPPED already.

There is no water there Jeff, he is a little flat.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 19, 2008, 10:04:25 PM
See there's still a meniscule layer of water that can still come off this guy.  But the reason he still looks so impressive is because he is RIPPED already.

"meniscule" layer of water? You need new contacts, McFarland.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Matt C on February 19, 2008, 10:04:52 PM
Here's Heath next to Sylvio.  I'm only posting it so you can appreciate Phil's arms here.  They have a look that make you wonder things like his brachialis and brachioradialis and lateral tricep head didn't just sit up off his arm even before he started training due to his insane separation.  Everything in his arm sits there on top of something else just sticking out.  These are genetics for arms.  Very few guys have ever shown this level of separation in their arms. 

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=201957.0;attach=234900;image)

That's not Lee.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 19, 2008, 10:07:18 PM
That's not Lee.

All black people look the same to McFarland. Very sad.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 19, 2008, 10:07:30 PM
See it's killing Earl to think that we've seen the best of Levrone while Heath's just now hitting his stride. Scary huh Earl.  Me and everyone else reading this know that the only reason you're so defensive is because Heath's the real deal and you're too afraid to admit it...but man I'm not trying to fuck with you right now I'm trying to get everybody ready to see Heath kick ass at the Arnold in another week and a half.  

Here are some of the better shots from MD's archive.  
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 19, 2008, 10:11:24 PM
There is no water there Jeff, he is a little flat.

So do you predict that if Phil comes in looking better at the Arnold that he will be weighing more or less than he did for the Ironman?   
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 19, 2008, 10:13:19 PM
See it's killing Earl to think that we've seen the best of Levrone while Heath's just now hitting his stride. Scary huh Earl.  Me and everyone else reading this know that the only reason you're so defensive is because Heath's the real deal and you're too afraid to admit it...but man I'm not trying to fuck with you right now I'm trying to get everybody ready to see Heath kick ass at the Arnold in another week and a half.  

Here are some of the better shots from MD's archive.  

I said he was overrated since day one, check the posts when lift studios posted his pics in 05

as a bodybuilding fan I would love to see somebody surpass the awesomeness of Mr. Levrone but I don't see it being heath

there is no guarantee he will get much better

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 19, 2008, 10:14:44 PM
See it's killing Earl to think that we've seen the best of Levrone while Heath's just now hitting his stride. Scary huh Earl.  Me and everyone else reading this know that the only reason you're so defensive is because Heath's the real deal and you're too afraid to admit it...but man I'm not trying to fuck with you right now I'm trying to get everybody ready to see Heath kick ass at the Arnold in another week and a half. 

Here are some of the better shots from MD's archive. 

You can't expect a man to put aside his childhood hero in a moment.  Earl will see the light re: Heath soon. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Disgusted on February 19, 2008, 10:16:49 PM
So do you predict that if Phil comes in looking better at the Arnold that he will be weighing more or less than he did for the Ironman?   

Same. Tad more hydrated tad less fat. We are talking tads here now.  ;D Maaaaaybe slightly lighter. A slight tad.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: marcus on February 19, 2008, 10:22:33 PM
I think his back will quickly become the best in the world.

Wouldn't having a narrow frame negatively impact his back?
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: SuperNatural on February 19, 2008, 10:23:54 PM
Post a picture of Levrone with that same leg development in the side chest.  Not hating on Levrone, he is still one of the greatest.  But damn, Heath is moving on up!
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 19, 2008, 10:47:00 PM



tnt
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Matt C on February 19, 2008, 10:58:44 PM
I said he was overrated since day one, check the posts when lift studios posted his pics in 05

as a bodybuilding fan I would love to see somebody surpass the awesomeness of Mr. Levrone but I don't see it being heath

there is no guarantee he will get much better

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He has continued to improve and there are no signs so far of that ending.  I think he can possibly surpass Levrone's level, although I don't think he is quite there yet.

Re: Heath being narrow affecting his back width.  I agree that this may possibly be the case.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: James Blunt on February 19, 2008, 11:00:29 PM
Phil's arms are legendary
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Matt C on February 19, 2008, 11:02:06 PM
Phil's arms are legendary

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=201957.0;attach=234916;image)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: McFarland on February 20, 2008, 04:46:03 AM


Thanks for helping keep everything in perspective, Matt.   :-X
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Lift Studios on February 20, 2008, 07:36:32 AM
The cuts in Phil's hamstrings were beyond sic.

 :o
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Stavios on February 20, 2008, 07:58:36 AM
Isaac you should tell Phil to drop a post or two here on Getbig  8)
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: LATS on February 20, 2008, 08:36:52 AM
 being as how kevin had a much better structure in regards to clavical width ect i would say phil is not going to surpass kevin.. they are roughly the same height and kevin usually came in at 245 or so.. phil has a ways to go and even then who is to say that phil's frame can handle anymore size.. the back is not going to get much wider due to his frame but, he will be able to add density to it (inner back ect).. unless phil adds some bone to those clavicals, i dont see it happening.. oh and by the way.. that pic is not of silvio or freeman.. lets try jj..
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: James Blunt on February 20, 2008, 09:12:19 AM
 :o Shocking similarities.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: gymguy on February 20, 2008, 09:46:36 AM
:o Shocking similarities.

Yes, but the Levrone shot is off-season.  Phil is the new STAR!
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 20, 2008, 12:15:58 PM
Yes, but the Levrone shot is off-season. 

off season as in a few days after or before a contest ::)

that's a levrOWNING of epic proportions :o

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 20, 2008, 12:19:43 PM
off season as in a few days after or before a contest ::)

that's a levrOWNING of epic proportions :o

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I agree. It's not often you see Levrone himself getting Levrowned, but Heath pulls it off.
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 20, 2008, 12:28:24 PM
I agree. It's not often you see Levrone himself getting Levrowned, but Heath pulls it off.

you are blind and stupid

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: calmus on February 20, 2008, 12:35:25 PM
you are blind and stupid

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Sorry, earl, I didn't mean to upset you like that. I thought you were ready to take a step forward, but I was wrong. I won't hurry you again. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 20, 2008, 12:41:01 PM
Sorry, earl, I didn't mean to upset you like that. I thought you were ready to take a step forward, but I was wrong. I won't hurry you again. 

your stupidity does not upset me, it's laughable :)

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: cht868 on February 20, 2008, 12:51:46 PM
phil has better legs than levrone ever did already imo
Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Earl1972 on February 20, 2008, 04:35:52 PM
did you not see the pics above?

phil has high calves

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Title: Re: Phil Heath Appreciation Thread
Post by: Moosejay on February 20, 2008, 05:19:49 PM
Here's Heath next to Sylvio.  I'm only posting it so you can appreciate Phil's arms here.  They have a look that make you wonder things like his brachialis and brachioradialis and lateral tricep head didn't just sit up off his arm even before he started training due to his insane separation.  Everything in his arm sits there on top of something else just sticking out.  These are genetics for arms.  Very few guys have ever shown this level of separation in their arms.  


That's Heath next to JOJ.