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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Livewire on March 04, 2008, 08:04:36 AM
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Was pretty shocked when Chick said on PBW that Iris should have been 15th at the Arnold. Are you serious Chick? Iris is one of the best of all time. So what if she had some funky bumps on her ass! Half the Men in bodybuilding have bumps and bruises. Is there a double standard for women bodybuilders?
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No, there isn't....ad I've been on record in the past that anyone with funky stuff going on should be put last...synthol use, muscle implants, biceps with peak at all times....whatever it is. Is it fair to the competitors placed behind them?
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No, there isn't....ad I've been on record in the past that anyone with funky stuff going on should be put last...synthol use, muscle implants, biceps with peak at all times....whatever it is. Is it fair to the competitors placed behind them?
Agree with Chick on this one 100%. She looked aweful.
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No, there isn't....ad I've been on record in the past that anyone with funky stuff going on should be put last...synthol use, muscle implants, biceps with peak at all times....whatever it is. Is it fair to the competitors placed behind them?
Weird, I don't recall you calling out one of the male bodybuilders at the 2006 NY Pro after he sported oil-filled biceps of record proportions and a promise to "shut up all the haters by bringing an alltime best!"
Nevermind, you probably didn't notice.
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it's easier for 'chick' to bash women than men ::)
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Weird, I don't recall you calling out one of the male bodybuilders at the 2006 NY Pro after he sported oil-filled biceps of record proportions and a promise to "shut up all the haters by bringing an alltime best!"
Nevermind, you probably didn't notice.
Who you talking about?
So where do you think she should have been placed, Rob?
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Obviously there are double standards.
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Who you talking about?
I'm trying to remember the guy's name... he hasn't been relevant in 3 years... I'm drawing a blank...
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I'm trying to remember the guy's name... he hasn't been relevant in 3 years... I'm drawing a blank...
Answer the question...where do you believe she should have been placed?
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Answer the question...where do you believe she should have been placed?
She!? That's no way to call a friend!
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Agreed with Chick.
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Who you talking about?
Have you ever called out Kamali, Farah, etc?
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Rob and Bob at it again...like old times...sigh.....2006 called...
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I'm trying to remember the guy's name... he hasn't been relevant in 3 years... I'm drawing a blank...
Yes, Rob you should answer the qustion. why all the game playing? Be a man and stand up. It's fair.
The Beef
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Have you ever called out Kamali, Farah, etc?
I've called out ANYONE with funky stuff going on...friends aren't exempt. Ferrigno and his calf implants from the Masters O years ago, Brad Hollibaugh and his arms (which cost him the show IMO), Kevin English and his pointy shoulders from the NOC back a few years....if it detracts from the physique in any way, you should be scored lower. If it's blatent and ridiculous looking, you should be scored dead last...period.
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I've called out ANYONE with funky stuff going on...friends aren't exempt. Ferrigno and his calf implants from the Masters O years ago, Brad Hollibaugh and his arms (which cost him the show IMO), Kevin English and his pointy shoulders from the NOC back a few years....if it detracts from the physique in any way, you should be scored lower. If it's blatent and ridiculous looking, you should be scored dead last...period.
Yup. BBing is not implant.
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Yes Rob was talking about King Kamali. Bob, are you saying you do not feel King had Oil ( SEO ) in his biceps at many contests?
The Beef
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How about your friend Sheri, or Ruhl?
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How about your friend Sheri, or Ruhl?
ANYONE.
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ANYONE.
Ever call your bud out on it? Shit, his shoulders are pretty jacked
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I'm trying to remember the guy's name... he hasn't been relevant in 3 years... I'm drawing a blank...
Some guy who is a mameluke brother or something like that...
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I agree with Chick 110%!!
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any pics?
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Ever call your bud out on it? Shit, his shoulders are pretty jacked
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I can assure you 100% that King doesn't shoot his shoulders, they're too big as it is and make his arms look smaller by comparison. Everyone does the same shit, the key is not showing up on stage looking obvious.
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I can assure you 100% that King doesn't shoot his shoulders, they're too big as it is and make his arms look smaller by comparison. Everyone does the same shit, the key is not showing up on stage looking obvious.
So let me see if I understand.....
it's ok to shoot shit in your body (synthol).....
as long as it doesn't look obvious on stage (bumps)?
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So let me see if I understand.....
it's ok to shoot shit in your body (synthol).....
as long as it doesn't look obvious on stage (bumps)?
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Obviously, you don't undertand....
First, were talking about Iris and her appearance and subsequent placing at the ASC...
Second, if someone is using Synthol and it looks obvious (which it usually does)...then they should be put into last.
If they're using Synthol (or anything else for that matter) and it DOESN'T look obvious, then there is nothing to comment on.
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Obviously, you don't undertand....
First, were talking about Iris and her appearance and subsequent placing at the ASC...
I understand what the original topic was/is. You stated that you would call anyone out on it because you're against any use.
Second, if someone is using Synthol and it looks obvious (which it usually does)...then they should be put into last.
If they're using Synthol (or anything else for that matter) and it DOESN'T look obvious, then there is nothing to comment on.
So any Synthol use is ok by you & the IFBB is what you're saying as long as it's not obvious?
Interesting
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I understand what the original topic was/is. You stated that you would call anyone out on it because you're against any use.
So any Synthol use is ok by you & the IFBB is what you're saying as long as it's not obvious?
Interesting
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No....the point is, if someone were using Synthol and it WASN'T obvious...THEN NO ONE WOULD KNOW IT WAS BEING USED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Get it now?
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No....the point is, if someone were using Synthol and it WASN'T obvious...THEN NO ONE WOULD KNOW IT WAS BEING USED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Get it now?
i got it the first time...but feel free to keep repeating for the others...43 times or so should let it sink in! good luck with these guys.
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No....the point is, if someone were using Synthol and it WASN'T obvious...THEN NO ONE WOULD KNOW IT WAS BEING USED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Get it now?
So driving drunk is ok....
as long as nobody can tell?
Help me out here......
Some one can do or perform indecent acts of moral interpretude as long as they are never caught or not obvious about it?
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So driving drunk is ok....
as long as nobody can tell?
Help me out here......
Some one can do or perform indecent acts of moral interpretude as long as they are never caught or not obvious about it?
???
If a tree falls in the forrest and no one is around to hear it fall, does it make any noise?
You wouldn't know if it's being done in the first place.........
Please tell me you're just acting stupid....
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So driving drunk is ok....
as long as nobody can tell?
Help me out here......
Some one can do or perform indecent acts of moral interpretude as long as they are never caught or not obvious about it?
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nobody said its OK or not...
you can speed, drive drunk, fire a gun off in a school zone with the windows down....nobody said this is ACCEPTABLE.
the point is, if they don't know, or nobody catches you in the act, there's no way of proving it.
hence the synthol question.
if its not apparent, how can they accuse you?
it has to be visible, and you need to be caught in the act. (so to speak) for them to penalize you for it.
it's really not that hard to understand.
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another thread where 'chick' is being exposed for what he truly is...
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Can someone point out the issue with Iris?
http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_competitor&CompetitorID=2334
The Beef
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No....the point is, if someone were using Synthol and it WASN'T obvious...THEN NO ONE WOULD KNOW IT WAS BEING USED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Time to institute a-scan of the competitors at all IFBB competitions to wipe out synthol use. Wonder if the IFBB could utilize the new airport x-ray scanners to quickly scan all competitors?
See http://www.modestofamous.com/node/1469 (http://www.modestofamous.com/node/1469)
(http://www.caravan-ny.com/ul_sample2.jpg)
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The problem i have with the IFBB is their explicit interpretations & definitions of the rules & laws.
Bob being a former Police Officer....should know better.
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If a tree falls in the forrest and no one is around to hear it fall, does it make any noise?
You wouldn't know if it's being done in the first place.........
Please tell me you're just acting stupid....
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Can someone point out the issue with Iris?
http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_competitor&CompetitorID=2334
The Beef
I see a lumpy ass (both sides) and shoulder (right). I don't think it's synthol, but it's lumpy. :-\
I have heard that she was warned by the judges on previous occasions.
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If you drive drunk and dont hurt anybody you dont get penalized. If you have synthol leaking out of your ass it might be a sign.
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when you look at this monster, you wonder why we 're even discussing if she injected synthol or not, when we should just think "damn all this bodybuilding crap is really a joke".
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when you look at this monster, you wonder why we 're even discussing if she injected synthol or not, when we should just think "damn all this bodybuilding crap is really a joke".
Another inspiring post by the great ::) "frenchfrie"
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Jesus it's not rocket science to figure this out. Iris "could" have won the show BUT she had some VERY inflammed steroid sites from tainted stuf that she was using. It looked ridiculous and she either should have had them drained or iced the crap out of them and took something for the inflammation. No excuse to not take care of that before hand. PEROID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No excuse to not take care of that before hand. PEROID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
110% agree.
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I've called out ANYONE with funky stuff going on...friends aren't exempt. Ferrigno and his calf implants from the Masters O years ago, Brad Hollibaugh and his arms (which cost him the show IMO), Kevin English and his pointy shoulders from the NOC back a few years....if it detracts from the physique in any way, you should be scored lower. If it's blatent and ridiculous looking, you should be scored dead last...period.
So bob you never stuck a needle in ur ass and got a lump from it?
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So with all this Synthol talk and picking out who is using well or not so well,did milos place last with the arms gone bad look?????.It's bad enough drugs are used without concern or control but this Synthol stuff is just for lazy arse weak BBs who should be playing ping pong.IFBB rule book says it all.HAHAHHAHA.
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Either way(Even if she dont use synthol),she dont look good as Top 3. PIRIOD.
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Jesus it's not rocket science to figure this out. Iris "could" have won the show BUT she had some VERY inflammed steroid sites from tainted stuf that she was using. It looked ridiculous and she either should have had them drained or iced the crap out of them and took something for the inflammation. No excuse to not take care of that before hand. PEROID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you James...
To all you Einsteins out there....SHE DOESN'T USE SYNTHOL. No one is accusing her of using synthol....and even if she, or anyone else for that matter, WAS using synthol...you wouldn't use it in your ass!
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You're welcome Bob. Actually I disagree with you on one thing. I think that Iris should have been disqualified. Now, I do not say this lightly as I realize the effort that has been made by any competitor to enter a show. No matter where she is placed it still takes away from another persons placing and even if she is placed dead last then it sends out a bad message about the the show and bbers in general. I'm no hard guy, hell I would even let Lee Priest back in if it were up to me ;D but again Iris had 2 pointy protrusions on her ass and more on her delts. Most likely from some bad water based drug. Hell, if it where maybe one lump it could have been overlooked. The IFBB needs to send out a written bulletin about this kind of thing in the future, not that it's any of my business just my opinion.
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You're welcome Bob. Actually I disagree with you on one thing. I think that Iris should have been disqualified. Now, I do not say this lightly as I realize the effort that has been made by any competitor to enter a show. No matter where she is placed it still takes away from another persons placing and even if she is placed dead last then it sends out a bad message about the the show and bbers in general. I'm no hard guy, hell I would even let Lee Priest back in if it were up to me ;D but again Iris had 2 pointy protrusions on her ass and more on her delts. Most likely from some bad water based drug. Hell, if it where maybe one lump it could have been overlooked. The IFBB needs to send out a written bulletin about this kind of thing in the future, not that it's any of my business just my opinion.
I see where you're coming from...but DQing would open up a Pandoras box in terms of allowing too much opinion and interpratation in reguards to being able to DQ other athletes.
By placing them dead last, it sends the message loud and clear without jeopardizing the integrity of due process, and fair play.
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Thank you James...
To all you Einsteins out there....SHE DOESN'T USE SYNTHOL. No one is accusing her of using synthol....and even if she, or anyone else for that matter, WAS using synthol...you wouldn't use it in your ass!
Your ass is fucking big bob.....
what are you shooting in it?
Derek Anthony's Secret Sauce?
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:)
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AHAAHHAHAAHAH!!! Oh brother, how can any bb organization penalize a bb for injecting something into their body. That's like a rape organization penalizing a rapist for committing rape.
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Try using the IFBB Rule book,I think drug use is banned but I could be wrong with that rule. ::)
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AHAAHHAHAAHAH!!! Oh brother, how can any bb organization penalize a bb for injecting something into their body. That's like a rape organization penalizing a rapist for committing rape.
She didnt get penalized for injecting anything into her body...
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She didnt get penalized for injecting anything into her body...
Let me rephrase: How can a bb organization or any bb for that matter frown upon any bb injecting anything into their body? That's like a group of crackheads frowning upon another crackhead for using crack while the group of crackheads uses crack.
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So banned Drug use is fine Bob?????Man you make some great statements. ::)
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So banned Drug use is fine Bob?????Man you make some great statements. ::)
Thats not what I said, is it?
Get it right.
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Let me rephrase: How can a bb organization or any bb for that matter frown upon any bb injecting anything into their body? That's like a group of crackheads frowning upon another crackhead for using crack while the group of crackheads uses crack.
They didn't frown upon, or speculate, or assume...they (the judges) judged a physique based on what they were looking at, and it wasn't right, thus, she was placed out of the top 6. It's not their job to assess what f any drugs were used by any particular athlete...the onus is on the federation to implement drug testing should they choose to.
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So name just one Pro who has been drug tested in the last 3years????Just one and not one that just got out of prison.One Pro tested for drugs by the IFBB.Just one.
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Let me rephrase: How can a bb organization or any bb for that matter frown upon any bb injecting anything into their body?
No you idiot. Get it right. >:(
It doesn't have anything to do with the injection or what was injected in the first place.
BBing is a visual sport, and it's based on what you look like. If you have lumps, no matter from it being an allergic reaction to grapefruit, a bad injection site or a bee sting....you should be marked down for it.
In this case, Iris Kyle has been rumored to have these lumps and been warned about it before this. It's more on the obvious side of why the the lumps are there, but Chick is trying to say to you thick headed dimwits, that he and the IFBB don't care HOW the lumps got there. But if it's obvious and distracting from your physique (it is a BBing show afterall, right?), then you'll be marked down for it.
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They didn't frown upon, or speculate, or assume...they (the judges) judged a physique based on what they were looking at, and it wasn't right, thus, she was placed out of the top 6. It's not their job to assess what f any drugs were used by any particular athlete...the onus is on the federation to implement drug testing should they choose to.
It's ok Bob, you know exactly what I'm saying.
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I see where you're coming from...but DQing would open up a Pandoras box in terms of allowing too much opinion and interpratation in reguards to being able to DQ other athletes.
By placing them dead last, it sends the message loud and clear without jeopardizing the integrity of due process, and fair play.
I see what you're saying, I guess there is no way of really proving what the lump is from so I see your point.
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We know they the IFBB don't care about DRUGS so why not take the testing part out of the rule book. ::)
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I see what you're saying, I guess there is no way of really proving what the lump is from so I see your point.
Exactly, the random lumps found on sites commonly used for injections by bbs couldn't have been the result of bb chemical use by a bb before a bb contest.....it doesn't add up.
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Exactly, the random lumps found on sites commonly used for injections by bbs couldn't have been the result of bb chemical use by a bb before a bb contest.....it doesn't add up.
;D
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No you idiot. Get it right. >:(
It doesn't have anything to do with the injection or what was injected in the first place.
BBing is a visual sport, and it's based on what you look like. If you have lumps, no matter from it being an allergic reaction to grapefruit, a bad injection site or a bee sting....you should be marked down for it.
In this case, Iris Kyle has been rumored to have these lumps and been warned about it before this. It's more on the obvious side of why the the lumps are there, but Chick is trying to say to you thick headed dimwits, that he and the IFBB don't care HOW the lumps got there. But if it's obvious and distracting from your physique (it is a BBing show afterall, right?), then you'll be marked down for it.
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!! Settle down "youngblood".....this is just bb...schmoes, hoes and oily bros....this ain't real life stuff here.
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AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!! Settle down "youngblood".....this is just bb...schmoes, hoes and oily bros....this ain't real life stuff here.
It is when you make your living from it... also seems pretty real when I deposit that big, fat check every month.
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It is when you make your living from it... also seems pretty real when I deposit that big, fat check every month.
Don't sweat it Bob...you a good fvckin guy. I didn't even read the thread to best honest....jumped to the end, saw a post and posted randomly.....I didn't even see the show or any pics of whomever we're talkin about.
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Exactly, the random lumps found on sites commonly used for injections by bbs couldn't have been the result of bb chemical use by a bb before a bb contest.....it doesn't add up.
Well, in this case it was the result of sitting on a rusty nail.
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It is when you make your living from it... also seems pretty real when I deposit that big, fat check every month.
The check you deposit might be real, but what its behind it (say Muscletech,prostitution,gay for pay,your IFBB"pro" card) are all a complete joke.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!
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The check you deposit might be real, but what its behind it (say Muscletech,prostitution,gay for pay,your IFBB"pro" card) are all a complete joke.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!
Well, none of the things you mentioned are behind it....jealousy is a bitch isn't it?
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Well, none of the things you mentioned are behind it....jealousy is a bitch isn't it?
Maybe in front then?
i can't be jealous about it really , there's a lot of whores out there taking a fat check to the bank and like you, they make a living .
WWOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHH
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Maybe in front then?
i can't be jealous about it really , there's a lot of whores out there taking a fat check to the bank and like you, they make a living .
WWOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHH
Well, I would suggest appreciating that minimum wage job you have, after all, you could be having to lift all those weights for a living, right?
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Well, I would suggest appreciating that minimum wage job you have, after all, you could be having to lift all those weights for a living, right?
You have a big fat check while i have a Minimum wage job, at least i don't have to inject drugs for a living.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
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Hey Bob,
We've all seen these types of "bumps" on bb'ers before. but never has it cost them placings. Do you think that because this was at "arnolds" show that they had to do something, because they didnt want any backlash and have iris kyle used as an example???
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It is when you make your living from it... also seems pretty real when I deposit that big, fat check every month.
Bob-who the fuck do you think you're kidding??????
If you make a LEGITIMATE $50K-$70K per year, in your prime right now, you are in the top 10% of all pro BBers.
And that is fucking peanuts.
Come on! You are NOT making a "big, fat check" every month.
No offense Bob-just keeping it real.
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Bob-who the fuck do you think you're kidding??????
If you make a LEGITIMATE $50K-$70K per year, in your prime right now, you are in the top 10% of all pro BBers.
And that is fucking peanuts.
Come on! You are NOT making a "big, fat check" every month.
No offense Bob-just keeping it real.
Anyone in the top 10% is making at least twice that, bro...you dont know what you're talking about.
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Anyone in the top 10% is making at least twice that, bro...you dont know what you're talking about.
I guess I should have qualified my statement.
It is possible that a few top pros are pulling in $100k-$150K, but certainly just a handful, less tha the top 10% make that.
But if you take off the drug costs I dont think any pro GROSSES over a $100K (maybe Jay does).
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I would take Bobs job anyday. ..let me know when you want to retire please.
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I would take Bobs job anyday. ..let me know when you want to retire please.
If you don't do good as a bodybuilder you can always Knock on Uncle Joe's door for a puppet application form.
WOOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHH
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Seems to me any cheating to make muscles bigger should be against the rules of the IFBB. Ah, I forgot, might be just a code of something or other.
Is Bob claiming that cheating is okay as long as it isn't obvious? Same logic allowed women to use breast implants decades ago and look at how awful they all look.
We need standards, Bob.
Hope this helps.
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Seems to me any cheating to make muscles bigger should be against the rules of the IFBB. We need standards, Bob.
Hope this helps.
Isn't drug use cheating to make muscle bigger in the first place??
WWOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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If they enforced the IFBB drug rules no pro would be eligible to compete.
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If they enforced the IFBB drug rules no pro would be eligible to compete.
Not even Flex Wheeler? he's natural now.....
or isn't he?
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHH
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I guess I should have qualified my statement.
It is possible that a few top pros are pulling in $100k-$150K, but certainly just a handful, less tha the top 10% make that.
But if you take off the drug costs I dont think any pro GROSSES over a $100K (maybe Jay does).
Jay and Ronnie are in the 7 figure range.
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Jay is balling by the normal mans standards. You cant compare him to house hold name celebrities. Bob...damn thats another story. Bob will sit here and fight with every single one of you. He will reply to every post and sit here and think out his posts word by word. The sad part is he is no where near retirement and is obviously meeking his way through life. Your average "successful" 40 year old is not on getbig fighting with teenagers.
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Jay is balling by the normal mans standards. You cant compare him to house hold name celebrities. Bob...damn thats another story. Bob will sit here and fight with every single one of you. He will reply to every post and sit here and think out his posts word by word. The sad part is he is no where near retirement and is obviously meeking his way through life. Your average "successful" 40 year old is not on getbig fighting with teenagers.
Don't kid yourself...
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Thank you bob. No further questions.
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Don't kid yourself...
LOL... ;D
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LOL... ;D
Bob has been sitting here pressing the refresh button rapidly for the last 3 hours. Waiting to strike.
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I guess I should have qualified my statement.
It is possible that a few top pros are pulling in $100k-$150K, but certainly just a handful, less tha the top 10% make that.
But if you take off the drug costs I dont think any pro GROSSES over a $100K (maybe Jay does).
Well, you would know.....
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Bob all BS aside what are you pulling in a month? You arent rich thats for sure so you can tell us the truth and not have your ego smashed. I would like to see what someone who dedicated their life to bodybuilding can show for their commitment. Truthfully.
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Bob all BS aside what are you pulling in a month? You arent rich thats for sure so you can tell us the truth and not have your ego smashed. I would like to see what someone who dedicated their life to bodybuilding can show for their commitment. Truthfully.
No, I would hardly say I'm rich....yet.
I'd say I make a very comfortable living...
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No, I would hardly say I'm rich....yet.
I'd say I make a very comfortable living...
What is your business plan to get rich? I mean its not top secret or anything no one else has done before. Curious.
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What is your business plan to get rich? I mean its not top secret or anything no one else has done before. Curious.
I have investments, and long term money/ income that should continue to pay off long after I'm out of the mix...
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I have investments, and long term money/ income that should continue to pay off long after I'm out of the mix...
Interesting. So what are you banking a month on these profits?
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Interesting. So what are you banking a month on these profits?
I'm obviously not going to disclose personal info, lets just say my mortgage payment is more than the majority makes in a month...
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I'm obviously not going to disclose personal info, lets just say my mortgage payment is more than the majority makes in a month...
Not that you are talking business I would imagine you are paying anywhere from 7k-10k for a decent custom built home?
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Not that you are talking business I would imagine you are paying anywhere from 7k-10k for a decent custom built home?
I live in Cali...it's ridiculous out here.
Ron has been to my new house, i'm sure he can verify...
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All the more reason to annoint those who pay your wages!
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I live in Cali...it's ridiculous out here.
Ron has been to my new house, i'm sure he can verify...
Ron doesnt need to clarify. I also live in Cali. I take it your house payment is around 5k or less?
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The pictures I've seen of Bob's house are nice. I think they were posted here or on his myspace?
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Ron doesnt need to clarify. I also live in Cali. I take it your house payment is around 5k or less?
Or more...in the ballpark.
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He's got bigger biceps, drives a faster sports car, and now has a more expensive home. Will bodybuilders ever stop trying to be 'better' than everyone else?
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He's got bigger biceps, drives a faster sports car, and now has a more expensive home. Will bodybuilders ever stop trying to be 'better' than everyone else?
It's doing better for yourself, not anyone else....
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Or more...in the ballpark.
WHERE'S GOATBOY?!!?
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It is when you make your living from it... also seems pretty real when I deposit that big, fat check every month.
PAGING GOATBOY. GOATBOY.
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I have investments, and long term money/ income that should continue to pay off long after I'm out of the mix...
GOAT, ANY COMMENT? I THINK THE MOMENT HAS ARRIVED
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Seems that any pro with an IQ over 110 should be able to do well for himself. That leaves a lot of guys in need.
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Let me rephrase: How can a bb organization or any bb for that matter frown upon any bb injecting anything into their body? That's like a group of crackheads frowning upon another crackhead for using crack while the group of crackheads uses crack.
Bob you know you are my buddy. You need to take this post down. IN many threads you compare BB to sports like baseball, football, basketball etc, and here you are comparing BB to crackheads (which in reality is a closer comparison). SO take this post down. And I am pretty sure crackheads don't have magazine photo shoots, endorsement deals, competitions, and go speak to groups of people and charge them. Just a thought.
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Ron doesnt need to clarify. I also live in Cali. I take it your house payment is around 5k or less?
Bro you do realise that if the boys over at bodybuilding.com gave Bob just a tiny taste, he would be sitting pretty without really doing anything for many years to come...
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Bob you know you are my buddy. You need to take this post down. IN many threads you compare BB to sports like baseball, football, basketball etc, and here you are comparing BB to crackheads (which in reality is a closer comparison). SO take this post down. And I am pretty sure crackheads don't have magazine photo shoots, endorsement deals, competitions, and go speak to groups of people and charge them. Just a thought.
lol
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Seems to me any cheating to make muscles bigger should be against the rules of the IFBB. Ah, I forgot, might be just a code of something or other.
Is Bob claiming that cheating is okay as long as it isn't obvious? Same logic allowed women to use breast implants decades ago and look at how awful they all look.
We need standards, Bob.
Hope this helps.
no offense Vince but does your reality tunnel truly know what awful looks like now a days? I mean you are the guy who bangs 400 pound fat women for sport right?
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no offense Vince but does your reality tunnel truly know what awful looks like now a days? I mean you are the guy who bangs 400 pound fat women for sport right?
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Big women are more appealing than the muscular women. That wasn't always so. Times have changed. Now, unfortunately, most of the musclegals are freaks and have lost much of their natural beauty.
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No, there isn't....ad I've been on record in the past that anyone with funky stuff going on should be put last...synthol use, muscle implants, biceps with peak at all times....whatever it is. Is it fair to the competitors placed behind them?
Nice to see someone with real balls slam the ogrish freaks.
Don't back down Chick, you're our last hope Captain America!
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What about gyno, Bob? That's funky, and unusual looking bumps, and Mr. Olympia '97 to '05 OBVIOUSLY had it. Did you ever call him on it? JOJ too. N' your buddy and those ridiculous looking.....arms I guess they are. If you just typed right now: "King Kamali should have finished dead last in his last few shows, because of the unusual, suspicious shape of his arms", you would gain the respect of a lot of people around here. I'll even let you copy and paste this if you like........if you like
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I've called out ANYONE with funky stuff going on...friends aren't exempt. Ferrigno and his calf implants from the Masters O years ago, Brad Hollibaugh and his arms (which cost him the show IMO), Kevin English and his pointy shoulders from the NOC back a few years....if it detracts from the physique in any way, you should be scored lower. If it's blatent and ridiculous looking, you should be scored dead last...period.
ok hangon...above you wrote that "it isnt fair to other competitors".....so what is it?... is it unfair to others or is it ok if they still look "reasonably unobtrusive"?
to be fair the question from rob was directed at you first when you chimed in to defend yourself. instead of answering him you came back with a question about a competitors placing.
hello!!?...rob hasnt tried to justify any comments hes made...you have, and Rob's pointing that out.
So was flex wheeler not a cheat then?...and your buddy the BTJA is it ok for him to cheat over other hard working competitors (which you are rep for btw)?..
apparently FW was the greatest to ever step on the AC stage...yeah and the ninjas really did attack him.
what is the ifbb pro rep's position on non muscular enhancements?..officially?..it seems clear based on your prior comments but now it seems all blurry.
careful now Bob.
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http://www.ifbb.com/page.php?id=23
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I've called out ANYONE with funky stuff going on...friends aren't exempt. Ferrigno and his calf implants from the Masters O years ago, Brad Hollibaugh and his arms (which cost him the show IMO), Kevin English and his pointy shoulders from the NOC back a few years....if it detracts from the physique in any way, you should be scored lower. If it's blatent and ridiculous looking, you should be scored dead last...period.
I'll take you one step futher (in blue) and say that you shouldn't be allowed to enter shows if you have ANY sort of implants. What an example to set for kids watching this sport, go buy you're biceps in the lube section, you'll be dead last, but you'll get a pro card.
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I'm obviously not going to disclose personal info, lets just say my mortgage payment is more than the majority makes in a month...
gee...there's a brilliant investment
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gee...there's a brilliant investment
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gee...there's a brilliant statement
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Bro you do realise that if the boys over at bodybuilding.com gave Bob just a tiny taste, he would be sitting pretty without really doing anything for many years to come...
Bodybuilding.com has sales of 100million. Thats total sales. Thats not Gross Profit...huge difference. Bob can you tell us Bodybuilding.com's ROS and GM Dollars for the year of 2007? We can then get a better idea of who is making what based on how many high ranking executives they have.
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Bob Chick - cheating in the IFBB is ok, as long as it isn't obvious (or you get caught)
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gee...there's a brilliant statement
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sure....tell me you're the only one in california right now making money on your house
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Then throw on top your in a dumb ass high mortgage rate (which tells me) you got bent over
In another 2 years, your house will be less than it is now....& you're proud of that fact.
Good job Bob-O
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Bodybuilding.com has sales of 100million. Thats total sales. Thats not Gross Profit...huge difference. Bob can you tell us Bodybuilding.com's ROS and GM Dollars for the year of 2007? We can then get a better idea of who is making what based on how many high ranking executives they have.
Well, Ryan DeLuca recently SOLD 60% of the company for 100M...you can draw your own conclusions.
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Well, Ryan DeLuca recently SOLD 60% of the company for 100M...you can draw your own conclusions.
bob, this is totally off topic but you guys need to lay off all the silvio talk on PBW, really...don't take this the wrong way but it sounds like you have a mancrush on him at this point. he's doing well and all but if I hear you guys talk about him anymore I might actually puke.
sorry.
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bob, this is totally off topic but you guys need to lay off all the silvio talk on PBW, really...don't take this the wrong way but it sounds like you have a mancrush on him at this point. he's doing well and all but if I hear you guys talk about him anymore I might actually puke.
sorry.
Bump for the truth, I don't see the hype he is a second tier bodybuilder and there are a lot more guys better with more potential
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sure....tell me you're the only one in california right now making money on your house
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Then throw on top your in a dumb ass high mortgage rate (which tells me) you got bent over
In another 2 years, your house will be less than it is now....& you're proud of that fact.
Good job Bob-O
You're complete tool...lol...making statements without knowing one fact.
You have no idea what I purchased the house for...or WHEN I purchased it...market perfect for BUYING, fool
No idea of the interest rate...
I have no intentions of moving anytime soon, so I'm not concerned where the market is in the next two years...
Interest rates have dropped considerably, and is projected to go down more...ideal for getting a better rate anyway...
I don't have to make money on the house right now, only when I go to sell it in 10 years or whatever....jackass.
Go back to your window and asking if they want that "supersized"....son.
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Bump for the truth, I don't see the hype he is a second tier bodybuilder and there are a lot more guys better with more potential
Just what do you consider "first tier"?
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You're complete tool...lol...making statements without knowing one fact.
You have no idea what I purchased the house for...
No idea of the interest rate...
I have no intentions of moving anytime soon, so I'm not concerned where the market is in the next two years...
Interest rates have dropped considerably, and is projected to go down more...ideal for getting a better rate anyway...
I don't have to make money on the house right now, only when I go to sell it in 10 years or whatever....jackass.
Go back to your window and asking if they want that "supersized"....son.
Meltdown from a guy that paid a little too much for his house.
It's written all over your statement.
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Duh....
you can't afford to move anytime soon.......your house aint worth shit to sell
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Just what do you consider "first tier"?
BOB...he's a good pro who's having a great run but it IS honestly like you're in love with him. I can almost see you getting the shakes if you don't talk about him for at least 10 minutes a show at this point. silvio this...silvio that..blah, blah, blah....cut it out already.
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Meltdown from a guy that paid a little too much for his house.
It's written all over your statement.
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Duh....
you can't afford to move anytime soon.......your house aint worth shit to sell
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As MORON is written all over yours...you're only making a bigger jackass of yourself with each post.
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BOB...he's a good pro who's having a great run but it IS honestly like you're in love with him. I can almost see you getting the shakes if you don't talk about him for at least 10 minutes a show at this point. silvio this...silvio that..blah, blah, blah....cut it out already.
Silvio is a damn good pro who gives up a whole lot of size against the big boys, and holds his own...i think thats more than deserving of discussion.
You've been spending too much tme on Getbig, you're turning homophobic like Gordiano.....relax!
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As MORON is written all over yours...you're only making a bigger jackass of yourself with each post.
Leave stupid debate and concentrate on serious bbing question my bbing hero.
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Silvio is a damn good pro who gives up a whole lot of size against the big boys, and holds his own...i think thats more than deserving of discussion.
You've been spending too much tme on Getbig, you're turning homophobic like Gordiano.....relax!
that's the thing, he does NOT hold his own !
from the back he is getting absolutly destroyed (by at least 10 guys at the ASC last week)
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As MORON is written all over yours...you're only making a bigger jackass of yourself with each post.
& you're the only jackass making money on his house living in california
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Silvio is a damn good pro who gives up a whole lot of size against the big boys, and holds his own...i think thats more than deserving of discussion.
You've been spending too much tme on Getbig, you're turning homophobic like Gordiano.....relax!
But honestly how do you think about his double bis? Its not weak..I think too weak isnt it?
So he lose most important mandatory pose there and still in top 5. I dont get it.
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that's the thing, he does NOT hold his own !
from the back he is getting absolutly destroyed (by at least 10 guys at the ASC last week)
Well, lets see..he BEAT everyone at the Europa Pro...and Placed 7th at the Olympia, I'd say thats more than "holding your own"...
HIs back needs to come up, as does his hams...considering he wasn't even on the map 2 years ago, I'd say he's done fairly well....
BTW...I didn't know it was a back only contest, nor did I realize he placed 11th at the Arnold...my bad!
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But honestly how do you think about his double bis? Its not weak..I think too weak isnt it?
So he lose most important mandatory pose there and still in top 5. I dont get it.
No, it's not weak....
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Silvio is a damn good pro who gives up a whole lot of size against the big boys, and holds his own...i think thats more than deserving of discussion.
You've been spending too much tme on Getbig, you're turning homophobic like Gordiano.....relax!
I'm not saying he's not good but I bet you spent as much time talking about him as you did dexter this past monday and I bet you've said his name more than any other pro in the last 6 months.
I'm just sayin'....lay off the silvio talk.
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No, it's not weak....
Guuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!! Hey Stavios, How do you think about this double bi?
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I'm not saying he's not good but I bet you spent as much time talking about him as you did dexter this past monday and I bet you've said his name more than any other pro in the last 6 months.
I'm just sayin'....lay off the silvio talk.
ill bet you're wrong...i spent just as much time talking about desmond miller, we spent more time talking about phil, melvin...
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ill bet you're wrong...i spent just as much time talking about desmond miller, we spent more time talking about phil, melvin...
You are right.
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ill bet you're wrong...i spent just as much time talking about desmond miller, we spent more time talking about phil, melvin...
take it easy bob, I'm just a "fan" offereing some advices. You shouldn't spend so much time talking about desmond either but that's another thread.
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& you're the only jackass making money on his house living in california
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Bob's house is probably in Riverside County, and he won't break even on the price he paid for another 20 years. ;D
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Bob's house is probably in Riverside County, and he won't break even on the price he paid for another 20 years. ;D
Bob claims to be rolling in it. Astute investments. Great income, etc. Any comment?
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Bob claims to be rolling in it. Astute investments. Great income, etc. Any comment?
No, but given certain information in your possession, I figured you'd certainly be commenting.
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Well, lets see..he BEAT everyone at the Europa Pro...and Placed 7th at the Olympia, I'd say thats more than "holding your own"...
HIs back needs to come up, as does his hams...considering he wasn't even on the map 2 years ago, I'd say he's done fairly well....
BTW...I didn't know it was a back only contest, nor did I realize he placed 11th at the Arnold...my bad!
Never said he was a bad bodybuilder and deserved 11th place
I just said that a lot of guys have better potential than him and that he doesn't deserved to be talked about more than the other guys.
(BTW, he should not have won the Europa, he was clearly outsized by both Wilmore and Harris. And he wasn't really better conditionned than them, he should have placed second or third)
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Bob's house is probably in Riverside County, and he won't break even on the price he paid for another 20 years. ;D
I doubt he's in Riverside County. Most likely LA or OC. Doesn't matter though, anyone who purchased within the last 2 years is getting raped.
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I doubt he's in Riverside County. Most likely LA or OC. Doesn't matter though, anyone who purchased within the last 2 years is getting raped.
I believe he's in or near the Santa clarita valley.
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Well, lets see..he BEAT everyone at the Europa Pro...and Placed 7th at the Olympia, I'd say thats more than "holding your own"...
HIs back needs to come up, as does his hams...considering he wasn't even on the map 2 years ago, I'd say he's done fairly well....
BTW...I didn't know it was a back only contest, nor did I realize he placed 11th at the Arnold...my bad!
In all honesty Bob, these guys are right. Silvio is the biggest mystery to me amongst the pros. I pretty much never see him placing as high as he does...
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I doubt he's in Riverside County. Most likely LA or OC. Doesn't matter though, anyone who purchased within the last 2 years is getting raped.
Anyone who's purchased within the last 2 years got a hell of a deal, Einstein....it's a BUYERS market right now. Figure it out, it's not that tough...
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Anyone who's purchased within the last 2 years got a hell of a deal, Einstein....it's a BUYERS market right now. Figure it out, it's not that tough...
Yeah, but dick wad....you didn't buy in the last couple months
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Anyone who's purchased within the last 2 years got a hell of a deal, Einstein....it's a BUYERS market right now. Figure it out, it's not that tough...
Actually, no one is sure that things have hit anywhere near bottom yet, and the market's only been falling for a year or so.
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Actually, no one is sure that things have hit anywhere near bottom yet, and the market's only been falling for a year or so.
Interest rates have dropped considerably, the market will turn over the next two years.
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Interest rates have dropped considerably, the market will turn over the next two years.
Yeah, but credit standards have tightened considerably. It only took Citibank losing half its market cap since October to do it, but the lenders have finally realized it's a bad idea to give crappy credit risks (like pro bodybuilders) 100% financing.
Low interest rates will not increase demand for housing, since financing will be unavailable to much of that demand.
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Interest rates have dropped considerably, the market will turn over the next two years.
2 years? In 2 more years they'll be saying 2 more years
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2 years? In 2 more years they'll be saying 2 more years
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Are you questioning Bob's "community college" mastery of economics?? :o
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2 years? In 2 more years they'll be saying 2 more years
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Well, lucky for you, living in your parents basement....it doesn't really matter what the markets doing in 2 years now, will it?
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chick,
would it be ok with if you knew silvio shoots synthol, but it wasn't obvious ?
Well, lets see..he BEAT everyone at the Europa Pro...and Placed 7th at the Olympia, I'd say thats more than "holding your own"...
HIs back needs to come up, as does his hams...considering he wasn't even on the map 2 years ago, I'd say he's done fairly well....
BTW...I didn't know it was a back only contest, nor did I realize he placed 11th at the Arnold...my bad!
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Yeah, but credit standards have tightened considerably. It only took Citibank losing half its market cap since October to do it, but the lenders have finally realized it's a bad idea to give crappy credit risks (like pro bodybuilders) 100% financing.
Low interest rates will not increase demand for housing, since financing will be unavailable to much of that demand.
LOL..so your contention is that only NOW have lendors figured out that bad risks, are bad risks?? Good thing they have you here to tell them what they've been doing wrong for 100 years...
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chick,
would it be ok with if you knew silvio shoots synthol, but it wasn't obvious ?
If Silvio used Synthol, he wouldn't be placing in the top 5 of every show he enters, so it wouldn't really matter now, would it?
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LOL..so your contention is that only NOW have lendors figured out that bad risks, are bad risks?? Good thing they have you here to tell them what they've been doing wrong for 100 years...
100 years? ::) They've been fucking up for about 4 years, not 100 years.
Bob, you seriously don't have a clue about the underlying dynamics of the current credit crisis, and are a fool if you want to debate me on it. Stick to what you know, like saying "wow, Silvio's really done his homework" ten times a broadcast. ::)
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Well, lucky for you, living in your parents basement....it doesn't really matter what the markets doing in 2 years now, will it?
I'll be buying your foreclosed house dipshit
;D
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If Silvio used Synthol, he wouldn't be placing in the top 5 of every show he enters, so it wouldn't really matter now, would it?
nice attempt to sweep this one under the rug.
lets try again.
I said synthol use "that wasn't obvious" (your words), but you knew about it.
remember, if its not obvious - how the judges know to place him down?
does your "synthol is ok as long as its not obvious?" logic apply here?
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100 years? ::) They've been fucking up for about 4 years, not 100 years.
Bob, you seriously don't have a clue about the underlying dynamics of the current credit crisis, and are a fool if you want to debate me on it. Stick to what you know, like saying "wow, Silvio's really done his homework" ten times a broadcast. ::)
Bad risks are bad risks, be it 100 years ago, or the last 4....
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I'll be buying your foreclosed house dipshit
;D
You couldn't afford my fuckin storage shed, boy...now go back to watching Hanna Montana
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You couldn't afford my fuckin storage shed, boy...now go back to watching Hanna Montana
Smart of you bob trying to scurry.
in a battle of wits....
you're the rat in the trap
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nice attempt to sweep this one under the rug.
lets try again.
I said synthol use "that wasn't obvious" (your words), but you knew about it.
remember, if its not obvious - how the judges know to place him down?
does your "synthol is ok as long as its not obvious?" logic apply here?
I think it's you thats missing the point...which was, if it isn't obvious, no one knows. I wouldn't know or not know what Silvio uses? doesn't use...so the question is irrelevant. It's not my job to gve a shit what anyone chooses to do...
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Bad risks are bad risks, be it 100 years ago, or the last 4....
Yeah, but bad risks don't matter if you just focus on your sales commissions, don't do any underwriting, and package and peddle crap mortgages as CDO's.
Banks figured out how to pad their bottom lines by selling crap mortgages while assuming none of the risks. The jig's up now, but for a while it was Enron-like "money for nothing". The piper still remains to be paid on a lot of this mess.
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Yeah, but bad risks don't matter if you just focus on your sales commissions, don't do any underwriting, and package and peddle crap mortgages as CDO's.
Banks figured out how to pad their bottom lines by selling crap mortgages while assuming none of the risks. The jig's up now, but for a while it was Enron-like "money for nothing". The piper still remains to be paid on a lot of this mess.
Agreed, that said, it's the lending houses that were left holding the bag (or the house) by their own stupidity...
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true colors:
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You couldn't afford my fuckin storage shed, boy...now go back to watching Hanna Montana
lol
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Agreed, that said, it's the lending houses that were left holding the bag (or the house) by their own stupidity...
The point is, the supply and demand situation in housing will be skewed for many, many years. It will take a long time before demand equals 2005/2006 levels, because in those years much of the demand was made up of people who never had any business in the housing market to begin with. Now that the credit markets have faced reality, that segment will be permanently returned to the rental market where they belong, leaving permanently lowered demand in the face of a glut of supply. That means depressed prices for many years to come.
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The point is, the supply and demand situation in housing will be skewed for many, many years. It will take a long time before demand equals 2005/2006 levels, because in those years much of the demand was made up of people who never had any business in the housing market to begin with. Now that the credit markets have faced reality, that segment will be permanently returned to the rental market where they belong, leaving permanently lowered demand in the face of a glut of supply. That means depressed prices for many years to come.
I believe it will develop into a split market with exactly what you said on the houses under 5-600K, and a return to increased market in the upper pricing range. People with money are still willing to put out a good buck for 1M dollar house
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I believe it will develop into a split market with exactly what you said on the houses under 5-600K, and a return to increased market in the upper pricing range. People with money are still willing to put out a good buck for 1M dollar house
& thats what they sold you on?
dumbass
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& thats what they sold you on?
dumbass
I was sold on the fact that I bought the house for 200,000 less than what the original price was, now get back to your myspace, the adults are talking now..
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& thats what they sold you on?
dumbass
whats your problem with bob ???
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I was sold on the fact that I bought the house for 200,000 less than what the original price was, now get back to your myspace, the adults are talking now..
The "original price" being the inflated price created by skewed supply and demand, a price you probably won't see again for more than a decade? That price? ::)
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The "original price" being the inflated price created by skewed supply and demand, a price you probably won't see again for more than a decade? That price? ::)
No shit....
the people that really made money on their house's in Ca did it 5 years ago.
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The "original price" being the inflated price created by skewed supply and demand, a price you probably won't see again for more than a decade? That price? ::)
No, the original price which was on the ballpark for what the area was dictating, and drastically reduced because of the declining market/ fact the owners were already apying on a house in Texas they were moving into and couldn't afford both mortgages, so they needed to get out at a loss to stop the bleeding.....
THAT price.
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whats your problem with bob ???
He was outed for being a fuckin moron on page two with the simplest of topics, so now he's pissed at me for exposing him as a retard...
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He was outed for being a fuckin moron on page two with the simplest of topics, so now he's pissed at me for exposing him as a retard...
wow.....a weak comeback with a lie
but hey....what can you expect from someone that can't think for himself
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So the drug tests don't exist in the IFBB Pros,so why not get it deleted from the rules??????.
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No, the original price which was on the ballpark for what the area was dictating, and drastically reduced because of the declining market/ fact the owners were already apying on a house in Texas they were moving into and couldn't afford both mortgages, so they needed to get out at a loss to stop the bleeding.....
THAT price.
You're talking about the "asking price", based on comps from a year ago? ::)
A house has no intrinsic value, Bob, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Obviously, no one was willing to pay the asking price, so that means the house is not currently worth that. If you could sell it for $200k more than you paid, you'd be an idiot not to do it now, because housing prices ain't heading north anytime soon. Obviously you can't, so you really didn't get a "deal".
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You're talking about the "asking price", based on comps from a year ago? ::)
A house has no intrinsic value, Bob, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Obviously, no one was willing to pay the asking price, so that means the house is not currently worth that. If you could sell it for $200k more than you paid, you'd be an idiot not to do it now, because housing prices ain't heading north anytime soon. Obviously you can't, so you really didn't get a "deal".
If he waits 2 years...he might get what he paid for it......
if there's another idiot out there
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You're talking about the "asking price", based on comps from a year ago? ::)
A house has no intrinsic value, Bob, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Obviously, no one was willing to pay the asking price, so that means the house is not currently worth that. If you could sell it for $200k more than you paid, you'd be an idiot not to do it now, because housing prices ain't heading north anytime soon. Obviously you can't, so you really didn't get a "deal".
Yes, I full wel understand the dynamics, but my goal wasn't to buy a house and flip it, or mine isn't what I would have gotten. I bought it to live in it for my family...I'm not planning on selling it for some time....I bought it because it served my needs and taste, and the amount I bought it for is far below it's value when that time comes..
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Yes, I full wel understand the dynamics, but my goal wasn't to buy a house and flip it, or mine isn't what I would have gotten. I bought it to live in it for my family...I'm not planning on selling it for some time....I bought it because it served my needs and taste, and the amount I bought it for is far below it's value when that time comes..
oh....I thought it was one of your smart investments?
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moron
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oh....I thought it was one of your smart investments?
::)
moron
Don't worry about MY investments, son...worry about getting your income to match your post count....just a few more dollars and you'll hit the magical $20,000 mark!!
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Bob you only own one house? Was this a custom built home? If not who was your builder?
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Bob you only own one house? Was this a custom built home? If not who was your builder?
Do they even have custom builders in Compton? ::)
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I'm obviously not going to disclose personal info, lets just say my mortgage payment is more than the majority makes in a month...
lol. i love this and the posts after it...its like, oh well im too modest to tell, but ill fill in all the gaps for all of you over the next few posts..
Bob reading your stuff is like listening to school kids..."oh yeah- my dad drives a big red truck"... "takes one to know one"..."no YOU did"...."i didnt say that, you did"..."look what ive got!"...."im telling on you and you, but not you"...
very entertaining.
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chick,
the question only becomes irrelavant when you don't want to answer.
i can understand your backpeddling, after sharing your brilliant logic
"its ok to use synthol as long as its not obvious"
another fine interpretation of the ifbb "rules"
I think it's you thats missing the point...which was, if it isn't obvious, no one knows. I wouldn't know or not know what Silvio uses? doesn't use...so the question is irrelevant. It's not my job to gve a shit what anyone chooses to do...
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Yes he will talk smack on how big the house is but not one word on how many IFBB Pros have been Drug tested in the last few years,I don't care about drug tests but take the shit out of the IFBB Rule book.IDIOTS. ::)
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I was sold on the fact that I bought the house for 200,000 less than what the original price was, now get back to your myspace, the adults are talking now..
Ouch. Your wife is my "friend" on MySpace!
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You're talking about the "asking price", based on comps from a year ago? ::)
A house has no intrinsic value, Bob, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Obviously, no one was willing to pay the asking price, so that means the house is not currently worth that. If you could sell it for $200k more than you paid, you'd be an idiot not to do it now, because housing prices ain't heading north anytime soon. Obviously you can't, so you really didn't get a "deal".
I'm pretty sure you know that it's a LOT more complicated than this. But for the sake of argument, what line of action do you prefer, renting?
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Chick,
Getting back on topic...any pictures to indicate the problems the judges saw? I took a look at the pics on Bodybuilding.com and don't see the problem. (See http://contest.bodybuilding.com/gallery/contest/2542/event/2/division/18/site/2/contestant/32482 (http://contest.bodybuilding.com/gallery/contest/2542/event/2/division/18/site/2/contestant/32482)) (Not that I want to look too close at Iris...just curious where the problem is.)
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He won't answer IFBB drug related questions, if you can't see it it's OK are his words.He is too busy measuring up his house. ::)
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No, there isn't....ad I've been on record in the past that anyone with funky stuff going on should be put last...synthol use, muscle implants, biceps with peak at all times....whatever it is. Is it fair to the competitors placed behind them?
I think that Chic is on the money here and I will tell ya why. Since nobody wants to do actual drug testing, "something" has to be done to stem the tide of extreme-absurd drug use. The most practical thing to do is to mark down the contestants that exhibit visible freakish effects.
Having said that, if they actually enforced both the drug testing rules along with wearing your posing trunks in the correct manner with buttocks covered, this kind of thing would not even be an issue.
We all know about the real drug issue/controversy and it makes no sense to try to put Bob Chic in an impossible position on this issue. As much as I favor comprehensive drug testing in bodybuilding, my priority as a fan is to have great shows. Right now , it looks like the IFBB pro div is growing and the recent Arnold was a huge success.
Howard
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Yes, I full wel understand the dynamics, but my goal wasn't to buy a house and flip it, or mine isn't what I would have gotten. I bought it to live in it for my family...I'm not planning on selling it for some time....I bought it because it served my needs and taste, and the amount I bought it for is far below it's value when that time comes..
I did the same thing 5 years ago and just re-fi'd mine at 4.85% on a new 15 yr mortgage.
For most of us, your house is both a home and your major investment. Look Bob, a lot of these naysayers don't have enough of a credit rating to finance a stick of gum.