What about gyno, Bob? That's funky, and unusual looking bumps, and Mr. Olympia '97 to '05 OBVIOUSLY had it. Did you ever call him on it? JOJ too. N' your buddy and those ridiculous looking.....arms I guess they are. If you just typed right now: "King Kamali should have finished dead last in his last few shows, because of the unusual, suspicious shape of his arms", you would gain the respect of a lot of people around here. I'll even let you copy and paste this if you like........if you like