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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Alex23 on March 11, 2008, 10:45:27 PM
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I remember reading in MuscleMag circa 1997, an article with Arnold about he state of affairs.Arnold was bashing on Yates saying he was the worse Mr Olympia ever, not only physically but the worse rep for the sport. Arnold being quoted something like
"[..] A Mr Olympia who trains in a dungeon and doesn't do any promotion, who the f**k is this guy? Nobody really knows, he simply shows up every year and disappears with the most prestigious title. A loss for bodybuilding [..]"
Anyone remember that?
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I don't recall A being so harsh, but, to be fair, I'd say Arnold would be considered more out of touch with the state of affairs of bb than any current or former Mr. O of the past 20 years
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I dont remember the exact words, but I remember Arnold said something that bugged Yates....later someone asked Yates what he thought of it and he just replied with "Arnold who?" ::)
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Narcissistic Deity does. and he hasn't recovered.
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Narcissistic Deity does. and he hasn't recovered.
Hahaha... but to be fair to A, pre election Arnold would almost never bash publicly on anyone, except for Rosanne and Dorian.
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Arnold was just jealous of Yates muscle mass
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arnold is obviously saddened by the state of bbing for the past 15 years or so. not one olympia besides arnold has had much tv, radio or internet coverage. he's right, what a sad day for the sport, when the guy that wins the olympia - biggest prize in bb and (seemingly) most marketable guy FOR bb - hides away for 12 months until the next competition. and they wonder y bb isnt on ppv anymore.
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In that same article Arnold said that "todays Bodybuilding was a big Circus and that none of them had any sense of style and all they wore was their big baggy brightly colored Circus paints"
Yep Arnold was totally jealous, there was actually a few BB who boycotted his show do it.
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Hahaha... but to be fair to A, pre election Arnold would almost never bash publicly on anyone, except for Rosanne and Dorian.
He was on a roll this year. When he said he couldn't see Sergio.......I thought it was a black joke ;D
arnold is obviously saddened by the state of bbing for the past 15 years or so. not one olympia besides arnold has had much tv, radio or internet coverage. he's right, what a sad day for the sport, when the guy that wins the olympia - biggest prize in bb and (seemingly) most marketable guy FOR bb - hides away for 12 months until the next competition. and they wonder y bb isnt on ppv anymore.
Lee Haney was quite popular in the 80's. He had a mainstream show on ESPN I believe, but nowhere nearly the Icon that Arnold was.
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He did say something like that, and that they looked "cartoonish with their baggy clothes and big water jugs and smelling like protein from 50 meters away".
But Arnold, Jealous of all this? No way. Not capable. He is happy to distance himself from the bufoonery that is bb today.
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In that same article Arnold said that "todays Bodybuilding was a big Circus and that none of them had any sense of style and all they wore was their big baggy brightly colored Circus paints"
Yep Arnold was totally jealous, there was actually a few BB who boycotted his show do it.
Oh yea I remember the clothing crack.... but he was right... fuckign early 90's clowns walking around with Rex-Won-Do pants, string tank and Otomix all days was and still is a disgrace.
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He went on to say that in the days of Reeves and Park...these huys wouyld wear suits to shows...they looked respectable and presentable...etc, etc.
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In that same article Arnold said that "todays Bodybuilding was a big Circus and that none of them had any sense of style and all they wore was their big baggy brightly colored Circus paints"
Yep Arnold was totally jealous, there was actually a few BB who boycotted his show do it.
doubt it. look at the style guys wore in the 50's, 60's and 70's... then compare it to the early 90's to present day. very few bbs ever wear suits or smart clothing in public (that we see) apart from a precontest meeting.
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Oh yea I remember the clothing crack.... but he was right... fuckign early 90's clowns walking around with Rex-Won-Do pants, string tank and Otomix all days was and still is a disgrace.
You forgot fanny packs :)
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doubt it. look at the style guys wore in the 50's, 60's and 70's... then compare it to the early 90's to present day. very few bbs ever wear suits or smart clothing in public (that we see) apart from a precontest meeting.
what is smart clothing? ???
what is dumb clothing? ???
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Smart= anything that makes pro bb's desirable to emulate by common man
Dumb= Baggies, fanny packs, dirty gallon jugs of water anatomically attached to hand
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Smart= anything that makes pro bb's desirable to emulate by common man
Dumb= Baggies, fanny packs, dirty gallon jugs of water anatomically attached to hand
Thanks GoneAway
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I don't recall A being so harsh, but, to be fair, I'd say Arnold would be considered more out of touch with the state of affairs of bb than any current or former Mr. O of the past 20 years
Quite the contrary on every point actually. He was correct on everything mentioned; it was refreshing candor from him. Basically as far as the physiques it was something about having departed from the ideals of former generations in general, Yates in particular. That was aside from the remarks about the clothing and lugging water around.
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what is smart clothing? ???
what is dumb clothing? ???
wearing clown pants, gallon water bottle, string tank (or just regular tanktop) everywhere u go, 24/7 says u workout for a living and are dictated by ur muscles, wanting to show them off and look like u just came from or are heading to the gym.
wearing suits, polo shirts and pants with a belt says u can relate to many topics, outside of ur bulging biceps. moosejay is right in the way that ppl over 18 will want to look and act like u, as smart clothes = intelligence and sophistication.
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I remember reading in MuscleMag circa 1997, an article with Arnold about he state of affairs.Arnold was bashing on Yates saying he was the worse Mr Olympia ever, not only physically but the worse rep for the sport. Arnold being quoted something like
"[..] A Mr Olympia who trains in a dungeon and doesn't do any promotion, who the f**k is this guy? Nobody really knows, he simply shows up every year and disappears with the most prestigious title. A loss for bodybuilding [..]"
Anyone remember that?
yeah I remember that too, there was some bad blood between the two, Arnold thought Yates was unsofisticated and when on official
Mr Olympia business he should wear a suite and all.
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this is so true, 90's + bodybuilding was pretty embarassing
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In that same article Arnold thought they should bring back some acrobatic elements to bodybuilding shows, such as handstands, like the old-timers did. I thought that was a bit silly.
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Classless move by Arnold, typical egotistical attitude.
Yates was the greatest Mr. Olympia of all-times regarding the physique he presented at his best.
At least Yates had the class to acknowledge that Arnold achieved his goals and cut the conversation short at that (seminar video is available on Google). Maybe Arnold should have recognized that Yates accomplished all his goals and had no desire (or obligation) to do anymore.
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Good for Arnold. Yates was one of the worst things ever to happen to the sport. He looked fucking revolting and was sucking dicks to win with hideous, torn and not there bodyparts.
A former convict who probably learned how to give 'favors' in jail. 1997 just went too far. Even Arnold was angry for Nasser
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"[..] Nobody really knows, he simply shows up every year and disappears with the most prestigious title. A loss for bodybuilding [..]"
That's why they called him the shadow! :)
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Maybe Arnold should have recognized that Yates accomplished all his goals and had no desire (or obligation) to do anymore.
true, but bbing is different than most other sports. although fitness is a billiondollar industry, bbing as a sport isnt all that popular. as a mr olympia, and even just as a bber in general, arnold attracted attention whereever he went, and that reflected very well on bbing. so much so that a video was made about it and is still quite popular 30+ years later. that's what happens when u open urself up to the media and it reflects well on u, too.
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true, but bbing is different than most other sports. although fitness is a billiondollar industry, bbing as a sport isnt all that popular. as a mr olympia, and even just as a bber in general, arnold attracted attention whereever he went, and that reflected very well on bbing. so much so that a video was made about it and is still quite popular 30+ years later. that's what happens when u open urself up to the media and it reflects well on u, too.
Yates had no desire to be a superstar or go to Hollywood. He was just an average guy like anyone else who happened to be the best bodybuilder on the planet for nearly a decade.
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Yates had no desire to be a superstar or go to Hollywood. He was just an average guy like anyone else who happened to be the best bodybuilder on the planet for nearly a decade.
lol Yates in Hollywood. what the hell would that disgusting shitbag do in Hollywood?
tattooed thug 1
racist nazi 1
revolting creature 2
LOL
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Classless move by Arnold, typical egotistical attitude.
Yates was the greatest Mr. Olympia of all-times regarding the physique he presented at his best.
At least Yates had the class to acknowledge that Arnold achieved his goals and cut the conversation short at that (seminar video is available on Google). Maybe Arnold should have recognized that Yates accomplished all his goals and had no desire (or obligation) to do anymore.
He was concerned about the way Yates was carrying himself on official Mr Olympia business, if you have evey spoken to Yates you would
know that he doesn't give the apearance of a very inteligent man (what could be misleading of course) furthermore he had an issue with
the way Yates was dressing, he was rightly under the impression that a MR O, the so called best of the best should also show his status in public.
And last but not least he did not apreachiate Yates taken the Award and not trying his all best to further the sport, there was litterlay no help from Yates to mainstream Bodybuilding.
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Yates also shunned Arnold's competition.
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lol Yates in Hollywood. what the hell would that disgusting shitbag do in Hollywood?
tattooed thug 1
racist nazi 1
revolting creature 2
LOL
Not true and again you show your ignorance.
Early images of yates show him with two DrMartens (red) tattooed on his arm, however if you had any idea what so ever you would
know that that means absolutly nothing keeping in mind that most of the Working class at were acually Skinheads BUT not the way Skinheads are right now.
They were simply Punks on a different level.
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Not true and again you show your ignorance.
Early images of yates show him with two DrMartens (red) tattooed on his arm, however if you had any idea what so ever you would
know that that means absolutly nothing keeping in mind that most of the Working class at were acually Skinheads BUT not the way Skinheads are right now.
They were simply Punks on a different level.
er no. he was a member of a racist group called the NATIONAL FRONT . Look at their site ffs http://www.natfront.com/
he was known as a racist and beat up ethnic minorities and ended up in jail where he was known to be racist and run the whites.
he even admits his racist past and had his tattooes saying 'skins' removed.
he was racist and admits this.
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taken straight from the ifbb rulebook's code of ethics:
"6. to assist the IFBB in the promotion of the sport by
acting as a goodwill ambassador of the sport, promoting
the sport in a positive manner, and protecting the good
image and integrity of the sport and the IFBB.
10. to recognize the value of the sport and to promote its
future by serving as an example to inspire other people
to participate.
14. to conduct ourselves at all times in a manner that
reflects positively upon the image of the sport and the
IFBB."
i think the key here if we (well, pros and top level npc guys) want to help bbing out alot more is to take these guidelines and expand on them by being extroverted and forthcoming with promoting urself and the sport to the masses in an intelligent and funny manner, as arnold would and did do whenever he was given the medium to do so. but that will probably never happen...
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er no. he was a member of a racist group called the NATIONAL FRONT . Look at their site ffs http://www.natfront.com/
he was known as a racist and beat up ethnic minorities and ended up in jail where he was known to be racist and run the whites.
he even admits his racist past and had his tattooes saying 'skins' removed.
he was racist and admits this.
Bullshit.
Yates wasn't racist - his best friend at the time all that shit was going down was a black guy they all jokingly called "Choc" - they knew they were being typecast as racists and they played on it.
Yates had no interest in pursuing the Hollywood lifestyle that Arnold aspired to - it just wasn't him and I don't blame him.
Back in Arnold's day you could get away with sitting in front of a TV interviewer and spouting off about how you took steroids in the past - they were legal back then.
Dorian could never appear on TV in the States or anywhere else and face the drug question and neither could any other bodybuilder from the 90's and onwards. It's no wonder he didn't want the attention - that would be the first question out of the interviewer's mouth. You wouldn't be able to act today like Arnold did back in the seventies - people would think you were a dickhead.
Think about it - if you were trying to promote bodybuilding and wanted to go mainstream and if you were lucky enogh to appear on Letterman or Jay Leno in front of millions of viewers and you had the drug question put to you - what would you say?
You'd piss your pants and your career would be over whatever answer you gave.
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a true warrior
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Think about it - if you were trying to promote bodybuilding and wanted to go mainstream and if you were lucky enogh to appear on Letterman or Jay Leno in front of millions of viewers and you had the drug question put to you - what would you say?
You'd piss your pants and your career would be over whatever answer you gave.
I guess you never saw the Ronnie Coleman interview then.
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(http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/4/3/12/f_vlcsnap8303m_642bb08.png)
Imagine this creature on Leno or letterman. Everyone in the studio would run for cover as the stench of oil and desperation overwhelms them. The biohazard team would then have to use giant prongs to extriacate nasser from the stage (where he would still be hitting poses in a empty studio).
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I think Arnold recognized Dorian and his "high intensity training" as the drug addicted shill he was. I think Arnold resents it somewhat that he trained as much in a day as Dorian did in a week. That said, Dorian was incredibly well spoken and intelligent and a fantastic poser.
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I guess you never saw the Ronnie Coleman interview then.
No - didn't know there was one - any links?
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Think about it - if you were trying to promote bodybuilding and wanted to go mainstream and if you were lucky enogh to appear on Letterman or Jay Leno in front of millions of viewers and you had the drug question put to you - what would you say?
You'd piss your pants and your career would be over whatever answer you gave.
life isnt black and white. in that case, u simply divert the subject or say that it's not about drugs or supplements, it's about ur passion for the sport that will make u a champion. :)
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I think Arnold recognized Dorian and his "high intensity training" as the drug addicted shill he was. I think Arnold resents it somewhat that he trained as much in a day as Dorian did in a week). That said, Dorian was incredibly well spoken and intelligent and a fantastic poser.
Yates was most definitely the most cerebral bodybuilder of all-times. He was articulate and had explanations for everything he did. He didn't need a drug guru like every BB these days. Coleman doesn't even know the physiological effects of some of the vitamins he takes. God can only imagine him with all the other drugs :-X
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Arnold was just jealous of Yates muscle mass
The bottom line is Arnold owns Yates...
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er no. he was a member of a racist group called the NATIONAL FRONT . Look at their site ffs http://www.natfront.com/
he was known as a racist and beat up ethnic minorities and ended up in jail where he was known to be racist and run the whites.
he even admits his racist past and had his tattooes saying 'skins' removed.
he was racist and admits this.
oh you have to be kidding me ::)
He was not a racist, and the fact that he removed SKin from his arm doesn't mean jack, I removed/covered up some tattoes I had because people wouldn't like them and they were a little worse than Skinhead.
Do you know what a Skinhead in this time was? A skin wasn't automaticly a racist person, read up educate yourself before you form
your opinion about something you clearly have no clue about ;)
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Yates was most definitely the most cerebral bodybuilder of all-times. He was articulate and had explanations for everything he did. He didn't need a drug guru like every BB these days. Coleman doesn't even know the physiological effects of some of the vitamins he takes. God can only imagine him with all the other drugs :-X
Is that why he said on the BB.com Olympia series that he would continue to lift weights until he is 90? Because he actually truly does believe he will live that long? :-\
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Arnold resented the fact that another Nazi won the Mr. Olympia...Arnold sees Yates as a low class Nazi and Arnold is a high class Nazi...Truth is guys like Yates, scare the shit out of Arnold...That is why you never heard of Arnold ever being in a physical fight...EVA...He would run the other way...Not out of being smart but out of fear..
Arnold knows when Armageddon comes, guys like Yates will be the true survivors and the Arnold's of the world(if they don't go deep under ground) will be a thing of the past
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Not true and again you show your ignorance.
Early images of yates show him with two DrMartens (red) tattooed on his arm, however if you had any idea what so ever you would
know that that means absolutly nothing keeping in mind that most of the Working class at were acually Skinheads BUT not the way Skinheads are right now.
They were simply Punks on a different level.
so what you're saying is that he is a tattooed thug, and a revolting creature, but not a racist nazi?
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oh you have to be kidding me ::)
He was not a racist, and the fact that he removed SKin from his arm doesn't mean jack, I removed/covered up some tattoes I had because people wouldn't like them and they were a little worse than Skinhead.
Do you know what a Skinhead in this time was? A skin wasn't automaticly a racist person, read up educate yourself before you form
your opinion about something you clearly have no clue about ;)
There may be some truth to this. There are racist skins and SHARPs. Skin Heads Against Racial Prejudice. Either way, everyone was a kid once. Plus wasn't his wife a little dark looking? A true skin would marry someone darker than him.
Dorian should have made himself a little more marketable. It probably would have helped his ever so popular supplement brand take off and he wouldn't have to work in his retirement. Who know Ronnie Coleman could be pushing Bowflexes next in the future. :-\
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Damn.
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no one can blame arnold for bashing dorian at that stage in his career. at least in terms of physique - Yates was coasting on his reptuation and past performances from 1994 onwards.
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Is that why he said on the BB.com Olympia series that he would continue to lift weights until he is 90? Because he actually truly does believe he will live that long? :-\
That's what Chad told him.
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The bottom line is Arnold owns Yates...
Arnold never liked Yates because of Yates association/training with Mike Mentzer.
That is the link I tell ya'se.
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Well, it only makes sens that someone like Arnold would bash Yates. They're worlds apart. Yates is your blue-collar bodybuilder who loves competition for the sake of it and never did much to be marketable. Just get the job done and disappear 'til next time. And his training philosophy was about the same. Incredibly intense, in and out the gym in an hour. No marketing value whatsoever. Arnold, from the start, saw bodybuilding as a stepping stone to achieve grander things. He wanted, and helped, bodybuilding to be glamorous, fashionable, respectable. As his image will be definitely linked to the sport, tell me what Arnold gains from the sport becoming at the same time a subject for hair-splitting specialists (basically bodybuilders watching better bodybuilders) and a freak show for a crowd who just got tired of going to the zoo? 20 years ago, having been a bodybuilding champ looked pretty good on his resume. Soon, it's going to be pretty similar as saying "I was the best curling player out there!". Glamorous!
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Good for Arnold. Yates was one of the worst things ever to happen to the sport. He looked fucking revolting and was sucking dicks to win with hideous, torn and not there bodyparts.
A former convict who probably learned how to give 'favors' in jail. 1997 just went too far. Even Arnold was angry for Nasser
The bottom line is Arnold owns Yates...
lol
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Dorian Yates put the finally nail in the coffin of bodybuilding.
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Arnold can bash any physique he wants, and get away with it, but no one can bash his. 8)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ArnoldathisBEST.jpg)
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Arnold was also unhappy that Dorian constantly snubbed his show.
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Dorian Yates put the finally nail in the coffin of bodybuilding.
You ain't kidding!
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get a grip... the 90's were the golden era of bodybuilding, the top guys from then will never be bested, they far out shone what was before them and todays losers pale in insignificance ... And despite what some claim, he was king of that decade
Yates is a typical working class british bloke,, all kids from his decade had skinheads, was nothing to do with bein racist.. they just liked goin out, gettn drunk and havin a punch up, just as todays kids do with different haircuts and clothes
Arnold is full of it, his idol when growin up was reg park, who was the biggest bodybuilder at the time,,, he didnt aspire to be a steve reeves, it was huge musculature that excited him... i would put yates in a similar mould to reg park physique wise, not the prettiest, but very impressive
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i would say he is right, as far as being a good representative for the sport. dorian was horrible. but, on stage...dorian beats arnold. even with his huge obliques and disgusting biceps.
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Dorian is king. 88% winning percentage!
(http://www.musclebody.ru/fotos/profi/yates/dorian_yates_002.jpg)
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Dorian is king. 88% winning percentage!
(http://www.musclebody.ru/fotos/profi/yates/dorian_yates_002.jpg)
Those calves are unmatched.
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get a grip... the 90's were the golden era of bodybuilding, the top guys from then will never be bested, they far out shone what was before them and todays losers pale in insignificance ... And despite what some claim, he was king of that decade
Yates is a typical working class british bloke,, all kids from his decade had skinheads, was nothing to do with bein racist.. they just liked goin out, gettn drunk and havin a punch up, just as todays kids do with different haircuts and clothes
Arnold is full of it, his idol when growin up was reg park, who was the biggest bodybuilder at the time,,, he didnt aspire to be a steve reeves, it was huge musculature that excited him... i would put yates in a similar mould to reg park physique wise, not the prettiest, but very impressive
I would say that's a damn good post.
I think most of us have enormous admiration for Arnold but that doesn't mean everything he says is Gospel.
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I don't think that this has anything to do with Dorian beeing a better bodybuilder than Arnold or not. Arnold wouldn't have survived a single session with Dorian. It's just two different perceptions of the sport and what you expect to get out of it. A guy like Dorian is a bodybuilder's bodybuilder. He never needed the approval of anyone outside that circle. Arnold, well, do I need to remind you what's his ambition today?
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er no. he was a member of a racist group called the NATIONAL FRONT . Look at their site ffs http://www.natfront.com/
he was known as a racist and beat up ethnic minorities and ended up in jail where he was known to be racist and run the whites.
he even admits his racist past and had his tattooes saying 'skins' removed.
he was racist and admits this.
he deserves a medal if he beat up muslims, he saw you roaches for what you really are.
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Arnold is spot on..! That's how Yates generally was; a boring and very interesting Mr. Olympia.
I don't know why the Wieders let him continue to win when there were better and more marketable guys like Nasser, Levrone, Ray and Flex.
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99% of people would rather have arnolds physique to dorians 8)
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99% of people would rather have arnolds physique to dorians 8)
Exactly but it's all good anyway as Dorian aimed at those 1% as Arnold did at those 99%. The only thing is Arnold could never understand why you would choose the path Dorian chose.
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I remember reading in MuscleMag circa 1997, an article with Arnold about he state of affairs.Arnold was bashing on Yates saying he was the worse Mr Olympia ever, not only physically but the worse rep for the sport. Arnold being quoted something like
"[..] A Mr Olympia who trains in a dungeon and doesn't do any promotion, who the f**k is this guy? Nobody really knows, he simply shows up every year and disappears with the most prestigious title. A loss for bodybuilding [..]"
Anyone remember that?
i think was in a flex mag and i probably have it. there was the arnold rant and then in another flex yates reply.
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There is a statement out there were Arnold states to a reporter that he looks down on ANYONE who ever waits in a line or complains about anything...Something like those types of people are beneath me...I love Arnold the bodybuilder, but it doesn't take a genius to realise that Arnold is one of the most passive aggressive people to walk the planet...Very dangerous man...
The Kennedy fortune was made by bootlegging tons and tons of alcohol when alcohol was illegal in the states...Which means its all dirty money...And many many regular folks and those in law enforcement were killed by this Kennedy money...That is one of the reasons karma is coming back at the Kennedy's IMOP...Yet people like Arnold and millions and millions of other people across the globe believe that the Kennedy's are some kind of Kings or Queens...They are all sociopaths, as are the Clintons...
The truth is you have to be fucked in the head to not understand that this family is a freaking joke...And to want to be part of somethng like them shows that you to are messed in the head...And that was Arnold's goal many many years ago...
If there truly is a hell, the Kennedy's and anyone associated with them will be at the belly of it all...
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Dorian looked like garbage and had zero personality. He did nothing for the sport other than to drive it backwards.
Arnold was very harsh in that article, moreso than portrayed here. He was also 100% correct.
Arnold "jealous" of Yates success? Laughable.
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Levrone used to talk about Dorian in the same way.
That he would just win, go back to England...and then attempt to come in bigger at the next Mr. O.
I think Arnold feels that Dorian did little to elevate the sport. But one has to blame the powers that be for awarding him the title year after year.
And Dorian was the first Mr. Olympia to sport the pumpkin gut. But he was great in 92, 93 and 95.
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one has to blame the power that be for awarding him the title year after year.
Agreed, it was a political decision some years.
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Arnold can bash any physique he wants, and get away with it, but no one can bash his. 8)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ArnoldathisBEST.jpg)
Every toothless English inbreed degenerate is fast to back Dorian. Normal, he's the "best" thing that came out of there in 200yrs.
But like Pollux said, Arnold or any similar Aryan specimen can bash any physique he wants.....
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yates is a shitstain on the toilet bowl of bodybuilding. i hate the racist olympia thief
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yates is a shitstain on the toilet bowl of bodybuilding. i hate the racist olympia thief
Your insults goes to show that the only shitstain is yourself. Dorian is not and has never been a racist, and the real racist is you, who wanted Nasser to win over Dorian because of his race.
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Your insults goes to show that the only shitstain is yourself. Dorian is not and has never been a racist, and the real racist is you, who wanted Nasser to win over Dorian because of his race.
wrong answer. Dorian Yates was convicted of racial violence against Pakistani people. He was also a burglar. he went to prison and was head of a block of whites and dispensed violence to black inmates.
he has racist tattooes and had some of the disgusting ones removed. he was also a memeber of a racist organization called the National Front. he most certainly was a racist. a serious one. he has even apoligized for it.
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wrong answer. Dorian Yates was convicted of racial violence against Pakistani people. He was also a burglar. he went to prison and was head of a block of whites and dispensed violence to black inmates.
he has racist tattooes and had some of the disgusting ones removed. he was also a memeber of a racist organization called the National Front. he most certainly was a racist. a serious one. he has even apoligized for it.
How can Dorian be a racist if he was married to a half Chinese woman and his children are multiracial? How can he be a racist if there are pictures of him during his Skinhead days hanging with his gang, and several members are not White? How can he be a racist if his best friend among pro bodybuilders is Flex Wheeler, a Black man? And the National Front is not a racist organization; it is a nationalist organization: it welcomes members of all racial backgrounds provided they are English nationals. As for Yates being convicted of racism, evidence please. I've never heard of such thing. It is obvious that the real racist here is you, and that you prefer Nasser over Dorian primarily for ethnic reasons.
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wrong answer. Dorian Yates was convicted of racial violence against Pakistani people. He was also a burglar. he went to prison and was head of a block of whites and dispensed violence to black inmates.
he has racist tattooes and had some of the disgusting ones removed. he was also a memeber of a racist organization called the National Front. he most certainly was a racist. a serious one. he has even apoligized for it.
you've been watching scum too much ;D
who's the daddy? dorian ;)
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bump for the daddy, dorian yates 8)
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bump for the daddy, dorian yates 8)
Dorian's your daddy?
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Sharma is such a troll, it's so obvious.
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Dorian's your daddy?
he's everyones daddy ! 8)
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I have known Dorian for quite a long time, and he has never shown racist tendancies at all, neither in the expos or at shows. Are you talking when he was a teenager? Or do you just think that no one can change in life.
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yeah who cares if he was a little nazi boy as 15 y old. we have all been young and impressionable once...
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I have known Dorian for quite a long time, and he has never shown racist tendancies at all, neither in the expos or at shows. Are you talking when he was a teenager? Or do you just think that no one can change in life.
No, he was never a racist, not even during his adolescent years. The gang he was a part of had several non-white members, so it is utter bollocks that Yates was ever a racist.
As a grown man, he married a partly Chinese woman, and had non-white children with her. He befriended several pro bodybuilders, and his best friend among all pros is Flex Wheeler, a Black man.
Sharma also lies about the National Front calling it a racist party, when in reality it is a nationalist party which is constituted by roughly half non-White members. The real racist is Sharma(obviously), who prefers Nasser over Dorian primarilly for ethnic reasons.
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No, he was never a racist, not even during his adolescent years. The gang he was a part of had several non-white members, so it is utter bollocks that Yates was ever a racist.
As a grown man, he married a partly Chinese woman, and had non-white children with her. He befriended several pro bodybuilders, and his best friend among all pros is Flex Wheeler, a Black man.
Sharma also lies about the National Front calling it a racist party, when in reality it is a nationalist party which is constituted by roughly half non-White members. The real racist is Sharma(obviously), who prefers Nasser over Dorian primarilly for ethnic reasons.
he dislikes the national front because the have exposed the muslim problem for what it realy is to britain - a disease and infestation of roaches.
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No, he was never a racist, not even during his adolescent years. The gang he was a part of had several non-white members, so it is utter bollocks that Yates was ever a racist.
I believe he did have a racist tattoo that he got in his youth which has since been removed.
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I have known Dorian for quite a long time, and he has never shown racist tendencies at all, neither in the expos or at shows. Are you talking when he was a teenager? Or do you just think that no one can change in life.
Yes one can suppress Hate just like they can suppress the ego...But make no mistake, it can never be driven out of the mind in this dimension...The Ego has to be near fully suppressed before Hate can no longer show its ugly roots...This will take another lifetime after ego suppression..
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this is so true, 90's + bodybuilding was pretty embarassing
And it isn't in this decade?
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(http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/4/3/12/f_vlcsnap8303m_642bb08.png)
Imagine this creature on Leno or letterman. Everyone in the studio would run for cover as the stench of oil and desperation overwhelms them. The biohazard team would then have to use giant prongs to extriacate nasser from the stage (where he would still be hitting poses in a empty studio).
Man, he would kick Zane's ass doing the vacuum pose!
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That's why they called him the shadow! :)
Exactly what I loved about Yates! "The Shadow" nickname suited him well. He didn't give a shit about all of the fanfare and publicity. Train hard, win the Sandow, go home.
That said, fuck Arnold. Arnold was a great promoter for ARNOLD never for bodybuilding. If there were not a competition that bares his name, he would have washed his hands of the sport decades ago.
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That said, fuck Arnold. Arnold was a great promoter for ARNOLD never for bodybuilding. If there were not a competition that bares his name, he would have washed his hands of the sport decades ago.
umm... incase u havent noticed... arnold IS bbing. without arnold and pumping iron (with all due respect to the other pros on the scene at the time), bbing would likely not be where it is today - yes, it would be even worse as far as pay and be even more of a cult sport. arnold pioneered for more pay for guest posings. hes been on more magazine covers than anyone else, been in the movies, etc etc. this all inadvertently helps bbing. he still goes to the arnold classic each year, which is a massive draw for bbing fans, gives away his hummer (though now it's a watch) and as of his last pbw interview, talked very highly of bbing and the times he spent with the sport. dont say the guy does nothing for bbing when u dont know the facts. he could have easily disallowed any resembelance to his name being on a bbing show, but decided to run with it and it's now the most visited show of the year.