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If you don't mind spending a few minutes reading a somewhat confusing article, check this out and post your impressions/thoughts. This involves quantum mechanics so it would be nice if we could have some scientists, such as the True Adonis, offer their opinions!
http://www.integralscience.org/sacredscience/SS_quantum.html
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This is common knowledge. :D
That's actually a really informative link. Thanks for sharing.
You may also enjoy this
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If you don't mind spending a few minutes reading a somewhat confusing article, check this out and post your impressions/thoughts. This involves quantum mechanics so it would be nice if we could have some scientists, such as the True Adonis, offer their opinions!
http://www.integralscience.org/sacredscience/SS_quantum.html
I can tell you quite frankly that it's a load of shit. If reality is just an illusion and 'not real', go play in traffic and see what happens.
There are things that are unexplainable and undiscovered for sure. But that doesn't mean that what we know is not dependable. We have come a long way from being savages to living in a civilized society. Things like computers and internet weren't 'discovered' - they were invented by people who discovered certain laws of nature and built upon them. Such is the nature of progress.
Being wise doesn't equate to smoking a whole lot of pot or what have you and declaring that nothing is knowable, while posting a couple of youtube videos to back your assertion up ::).
And Adonis isn't a scientist BTW - he's a joke. HTH
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I can tell you quite frankly that it's a load of shit. If reality is just an illusion and 'not real', go play in traffic and see what happens.
There are things that are unexplainable and undiscovered for sure. But that doesn't mean that what we know is not dependable. We have come a long way from being savages to living in a civilized society. Things like computers and internet weren't 'discovered' - they were invented by people who discovered certain laws of nature and built upon them. Such is the nature of progress.
Being wise doesn't equate to smoking a whole lot of pot or what have you and declaring that nothing is knowable, while posting a couple of youtube videos to 'back your assertion' up ::).
And Adonis isn't a scientist BTW - he's a joke. HTH
nice.
The Battle for Life is the Battle for Sanity. :)
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Yes, definitely not.
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Yeah, TA is a scientist ::)
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Yeah, TA is a scientist ::)
He has a Bachelor in copy and paste technology.
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Oh booyyy
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if you want to claim "reality" is an "illusion" you might want to work on defining your terms. either it's reality or it's an illusion.
yeah i know there's the idea of the uncertainty principle claiming that our perception "makes" reality, but that's a severe theory and was mocked by schroedinger's cat (that's right, the famous cat was made to mock quantum mechanics, not illustrate them).
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nice.
The Battle for Life is the Battle for Sanity. :)
Man isn't that the truth. Although insanity would seem much more resilient than sanity.
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Man isn't that the truth. Although insanity would seem much more resilient than sanity.
exactly, that's the battle
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Man isn't that the truth. Although insanity would seem much more resilient than sanity.
I've seen both sides and let me tell you - to be insane is to be in Hell ;D
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I've seen both sides and let me tell you - to be insane is to be in Hell ;D
Being a sane person in an insane world also presents it's fair share of challenges too though! ;D
Reminds me of the Seal song "Crazy" I heard on the way to work this morning. "You know we're never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy."
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'Real' scientists have established that all matter in the universe is essentially bits of information and thought, as if the infinitely vast spectrum of reality is a form of consciousness in itself. You can learn that in the books, websites, or if you have to, youtube. And what those discoveries have done is made us experience the universe in a new way, as it may perhaps be a sort of hologram.
Those universal laws are still and are seemingly always in effect. The ways of action->reaction are seemingly eternal. But is it serious? Is life a game? a play? an act? a battle? No one can say! But it just is!
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'Real' scientists have established that all matter in the universe is essentially bits of information and thought, as if the infinitely vast spectrum of reality is a form of consciousness in itself. You can learn that in the books, websites, or if you have to, youtube. And what those discoveries have done is made us experience the universe in a new way, as it may perhaps be a sort of hologram.
Those universal laws are still and are seemingly always in effect. The ways of action->reaction are seemingly eternal. But is it serious? Is life a game? a play? an act? a battle? No one can say! But it just is!
You sound very authoritative and assertive in what you say, even though you haven't said anything dude. There is no such thing as a 'real' scientist. Scientists are people like you and me (I am one myself, although not at present, at least factually). And nothing like what you claim "has been established", like you put it.
The Universe and it's contents, a lot of which is still far from being discovered is most certainly not 'bits of information and thought' - thought is an attribute of a consciousness and information is the end result of thought. Matter is not a by product or a even a form of consciousness - it exists independent of any human or animal consciousness.
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You sound very authoritative and assertive in what you say, even though you haven't said anything dude. There is no such thing as a 'real' scientist. Scientists are people like you and me (I am one myself, although not at present, at least factually). And nothing like what you claim "has been established", like you put it.
The Universe and it's contents, a lot of which is still far from being discovered is most certainly not 'bits of information and thought' - thought is an attribute of a consciousness and information is the end result of thought. Matter is not a by product or a even a form of consciousness - it exists independent of any human or animal consciousness.
nailed it. he's basically spouting pseudo-scientific psychobabble and claiming it to be "established science".
the only way these "ideas" work is when we completely change the definitions of "reality", "matter", "thought", and "information" to mean things that no rational person would ever define them as. we call "reality" that which is, the way things are. an "illusion" is that which seems to be, but is not. these are de facto antonyms, we can't claim they're the same.
as for "matter" being "thought", what the hell does that even mean? that if i think about it hard enough i can create matter? that my thoughts change matter? no. maybe it'll change my perception of it, but that's when we run back into reality and illusion.
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I remember this used to be a bodybuilding forum.
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You sound very authoritative and assertive in what you say, even though you haven't said anything dude. There is no such thing as a 'real' scientist. Scientists are people like you and me (I am one myself, although not at present, at least factually). And nothing like what you claim "has been established", like you put it.
The Universe and it's contents, a lot of which is still far from being discovered is most certainly not 'bits of information and thought' - thought is an attribute of a consciousness and information is the end result of thought. Matter is not a by product or a even a form of consciousness - it exists independent of any human or animal consciousness.
hehe I say 'real' in contrast to TA.
I don't feel comfortable considering myself a scientist or a guru, but I have learned in my research that the apparent building block of the universe, the atom, is made up of empty space, with a center of bursting energy (which itself pops in and out of existence unpredictably). Now tell me how balls of empty space manifests into solid matter? And that's where you're right about us not knowing everything.
It's as if when you move your hand in front of your face the atoms that were just before made up of chemicals mingling in the air and dust particles have all of a sudden been reprogramed to become your hand by the use of your own intent. Ponder that for a while!
I'm no expert so here's a very relevant documentary:
The illusion of reality
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1406370011028154810&q=atom&total=34132&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7
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hehe I say 'real' in contrast to TA.
I don't feel comfortable considering myself a scientist or a guru, but I have learned in my research that the apparent building block of the universe, the atom, is made up of empty space, with a center of bursting energy (which itself pops in and out of existence unpredictably). Now tell me how balls of empty space manifests into solid matter? And that's where you're right about us not knowing everything.
It's as if when you move your hand in front of your face the atoms that were just before made up of chemicals mingling in the air and dust particles have all of a sudden been reprogramed to become your hand by the use of your own intent. Ponder that for a while!
I'm no expert so here's a very relevant documentary:
The illusion of reality
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1406370011028154810&q=atom&total=34132&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7
Where you are making the mistake is in dropping the context of 2 statements that like any other statement, lose their status of being facts due to being out of context.
FYI, I've done years and years of study - Environmental Engineering and Molecular Biology specifically, but I was greatly interested in Physics in my earlier years and read up a whole lot of it, not to mention studied it as part of the Engineering course anyway. So I'm not one of those people who've done nothing more than seen a few you tube videos of 'experts' claiming that nothing is real because at the sub-atomic level, energy and matter seem to lose their distinct identities (and hence properties) and more or less become interchangeable or exhibit dual behavior (where one state contradicts the other).
Where do I start? For one, all that means is that we need to learn and technologically advance a lot more to be able to study such things and arrive at conclusions that make sense. The fact that there is a lot of space between sub-atomic particles doesn't mean that solid matter is an illusion - the quantity of an entity doesn't always decide the outcome. To give you an example, the human body is 70% plus water. Does that mean you can say, "We are all mostly water anyway, so I may as well give up on trying to score with a female. I'll just drink a bottle of water when I get horny because 'essentially', it's just an interaction between 2 bags of fluid'?
BTW, those 2 bags of fluid I'm talking about are you and the water bottle, not your nuts ;D
Take a million zeros and add them up - you'll still get zero for an answer. But throw a number before the zeros and see what it turns into. It's the same thing with everything else - the factor that decides the outcome of an event or the part that gives an entity it's meaning maybe trivial in size or quantity in relation to the overall. Doesn't mean it can be ignored just because it's not the dominating constituent.
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"engineer" these nuts bitch.
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I remember this used to be a bodybuilding forum.
Translation = I'm on my lunch break dammit....and was looking for a quick stroke.
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Like I said I don't claim to know the answers, just what my beliefs end up leaning towards after researching while considering all of the other probabilities that may arise. And what most of my research has taught me was to respect the mystery and live in it. To understand that I create my own reality as I go along and to live fully in the now.
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"engineer" these nuts bitch.
LOL!
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Like I said I don't claim to know the answers, just what my beliefs end up leaning towards after researching while considering all of the other probabilities that may arise. And what most of my research has taught me was to respect the mystery and live in it. To understand that I create my own reality as I go along and to live fully in the now.
WHY dont you post some real research. No quantum physicist would ever agree with you unless he was a moron.
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WHY dont you post some real research. No quantum physicist would ever agree with you unless he was a moron.
He says he has considered 'all possibilities that may arise' in his research that also taught him to respect the mystery and live in it. If you want him to post proof, then Good luck to him ;D
What the Hell are we doing being serious smokey? Shouldn't we be calling someone gay instead? ;D
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i have noticed that when i truly believe something is going to happen, it does happen.
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i have noticed that when i truly believe something is going to happen, it does happen.
Yes. :)
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mainly just with females.
but with other things too.
i think that has to do more with confidence being attractive though.
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WHY dont you post some real research. No quantum physicist would ever agree with you unless he was a moron.
Why don't you do the research?
The whole idea is to not believe anything unless proven through your own research. Don't believe what I say, please! Just do the research yourself so that you don't get lost in the vast ocean of misinformation. I can't explain quantum physics simply.No one in this thread has been able to provide any clear definition of it. Therefore it's the responsibility of the inquisitive individual to reach out beyond this thread and do some research himself. The docu I posted before is pretty good but I don't promise that it will answer all of your questions, as it didn't for me.
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FYI, I've done years and years of study - Environmental Engineering and Molecular Biology specifically, but I was greatly interested in Physics in my earlier years and read up a whole lot of it, not to mention studied it as part of the Engineering course anyway. So I'm not one of those people who've done nothing more than seen a few you tube videos of 'experts' claiming that nothing is real because at the sub-atomic level, energy and matter seem to lose their distinct identities (and hence properties) and more or less become interchangeable or exhibit dual behavior (where one state contradicts the other).
And yet you still admire that batshit crazy biatch Ayn Rand and her pseudo-'science' of objectivism!? :o 8)
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And yet you still admire that batshit crazy biatch Ayn Rand and her pseudo-'science' of objectivism!? :o 8)
I won't say I admire Ayn Rand - it's closer to worship really :P
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I won't say I admire Ayn Rand - it's closer to worship really :P
Hmmm. Well, you are certainly a smart enough guy; this Rand thing is obviously just a foible. ;)
Fark had a good thread on her/Atlas Shrugged the other day. Enjoy: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3488250 (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3488250)
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yes
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AHAHAH someone deleted my post
ill comment on this thread later i have too much schoolwork to do.
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Do you think a giant penis could actually be running the entire show? Like the giant penis architect behind the universe?
Of course, in all seriousness, Gary Busey is behind everything.
im working on this now actually. the PUT or PENIS UNIFYING THEORY.
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We need Daddywaddy aka Mr Johnny Falcon to clear this up for us!
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Interesting things to think about regarding "reality"
- How much can I influence my own reality? Can my thoughts influence future events beyond their influence on my behaviour and actions? And can we really prove that thoughts on their own can not influence future events, or if they can?
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cause and effect. Each of our thoughts and actions cause ripple effects no matter how small. If we even just look at a person we will effect their reality in one way or another. But if we pee on some random person in the street he will have a story to tell for the rest of his life. Therefore, it is wise to evaluate the probabilities that make up a decision making trial. We must consider the probabilities logically while at the same time be conscious of our emotional states, decide based on desired emotional response and logical winning outcome, and throw a bit of intuition into the mix and we would be much better decision makers/realty constructors.
- Is the concept of "destiny" a human concept to find meaning? Or is it a real thing, planned out by a superior intelligence?
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This is interesting because although it may seem as if we create our own lives as we go along, the world stage seems to unfold as a grand play or a magnificent game. This is the hindu metaphysical axiom, where God puts on the show and lives as all of the things in existence, but for the fun of it, forgets he is God, and plays the many roles. Who knows?
- Should one only believe in what science can prove, since the "frame of reference" science operates in don't include the elements needed to give answers to the existensial questions we all ask ourselves? (at least not at this point). If so, does your choice optimize your happiness?
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Such a belief system is more like a prison for your own mind. You can't even prove who you are. All you can do is give your name, address and occupation. That's just a mask, but who puts it on?
- Can believing in a reality where you can influence events with your thoughts or where you just simulate everything yourself actually be beneficial, even if it might be completely false? Can stone hard rationality in certain areas of your mental life actually be a burden?
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Works for me so maybe that's part of my 'destiny'
- Can you derive a few "maxims" that guides you to living an optimal life, given that your whole "reality" is filled with so many unanswered questions and so much uncertainty? If so, what are these conclusions about life, and what do they give you in your life?
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Is there anything people can agree on? How about this?
10 Rules for being a human being
1. You will receive a body. You may like it or hate it, but it's yours to keep for the entire period.
2. You will learn lessons. You are enrolled in a full-time informal school called, "life."
3. There are no mistakes, only lessons. Growth is a process of trial, error, and experimentation. The "failed" experiments are as much a part of the process as the experiments that ultimately "work."
4. Lessons are repeated until they are learned. A lesson will be presented to you in various forms until you have learned it. When you have learned it, you can go on to the next lesson.
5. Learning lessons does not end. There's no part of life that doesn't contain its lessons. If you're alive, that means there are still lessons to be learned.
6. "There" is no better a place than "here." When your "there" has become a "here", you will simply obtain another "there" that will again look better than "here."
7. Other people are merely mirrors of you. You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects to you something you love or hate about yourself.
8. What you make of your life is up to you. You have all the tools and resources you need. What you do with them is up to you. The choice is yours.
9. Your answers lie within you. The answers to life's questions lie within you. All you need to do is look, listen, and trust.
10. You will forget all this.
Please answer these questions, or go fuck a hooker and have some blow.
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there is no destiny, the YOU is your brain. knock out the brain and there you go, give certain drugs and change the YOU.
simple as that.
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Is reality an illusion?
Someone has watched "The Matrix" one too many times. ::)
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there is no destiny, the YOU is your brain. knock out the brain and there you go, give certain drugs and change the YOU.
simple as that.
How is a piece of matter conscious? How would I go about introducing myself as my brain? And what about the outer body phenomena? Where does creativity originate?
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Defenition of Illusion: "something that deceives by producing a false or misleading impression of reality". "Psychology. a perception, as of visual stimuli (optical illusion), that represents what is perceived in a way different from the way it is in reality"
We can not disprove that the reality we percieve as the world we live in, is indeed a big fucking simulation kinda like in the Matrix. The whole "objective world" gouverned by laws and all that shit might simply not be what we percieve. In a dream, we see and feel a constructed physical reality. Its usually seen and felt with some inconsistency (If you're into lucid dreaming, try looking at your watch in your dream twice and see if the time matches ;D ), but it is still from what we know a "reality" simulated by our brains that feels real there and there.
Thus, it is possible that reality is an illusion.
End note: The question is pretty hard to answer :P
This statement does not prove a thing. Reality can still be an illusion (see Debusseys earlier post), yet an illusion constructed upon rules which have consequences. Not to say that it IS an illusion, there is no way to REALLY know, but this exact quote does not prove a thing.
Your dream is not a reality and it's most certainly not physical. An object in a dream isn't real / palpable like the solid version of the same object that's sitting in front of you in reality (like a watch, to go by your own example). Going by what you say, a thought in your head be it in the form of a dream or a fantasy is the same as actually undergoing the equivalent physical experience. Are you saying your fantasizing about, say for instance, sleeping with a person is as real as the actual physical experience of the same?
You say we cannot disprove that 'the reality we percieve as the world we live in, is indeed a big fucking simulation kinda like in the Matrix'. But that is a meaningless argument. I cannot disprove that everything that has happened in my life is actually being controlled by a monkey that's going about it's business in some African jungle or something absurd like that. That doesn't mean I can therefore treat said absurd hypothesis with the same degree of seriousness or think it has as much validity as the fact that my own actions are responsible for what happens in my life (taking into account other factors such as environmental influence, the pre-existing conditions, context and so on). Because such possibilities are endless and basing an argument on such a premise would make arguing pointless or proving a point impossible.
There are absolute laws in reality that are universal - the fact that 2 objects attract each other with a force that is directly proportional to (the product of) their mass and indirectly proportional to the (square of the) distance between them i.e. the law of gravitational attraction is equally valid for all matter in any corner of the Universe, just like the fact that the sum of the squares of the 2 smaller sides of a right angled triangle is equal to the square of the hypotenuse, just like the fact that a human body needs food, water and air and optimal conditions to stay alive and so on.
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yes especially in contemporary bodybuilding. all drugs(illusion)
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figgs - your number 6 rule could liberate every mind on the planet if they truly 'got it'.
powerful...
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Why don't you do the research?
The whole idea is to not believe anything unless proven through your own research. Don't believe what I say, please! Just do the research yourself so that you don't get lost in the vast ocean of misinformation. I can't explain quantum physics simply.No one in this thread has been able to provide any clear definition of it. Therefore it's the responsibility of the inquisitive individual to reach out beyond this thread and do some research himself. The docu I posted before is pretty good but I don't promise that it will answer all of your questions, as it didn't for me.
dude i have read much quantum physics by real physicists and there is no misinformation besides personal theories extrapolated from research and wild conclusions like your own. You sound like Goswami.
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How is a piece of matter conscious? How would I go about introducing myself as my brain? And what about the outer body phenomena? Where does creativity originate?
1.as the system becomes more complex emergent phenomenon are inevitable.
2.your second question makes no sense and is not worth a reply.
3.possibly DMT induced as it is an endogenous psychedelic. It is simply a perceptual shift, similar to REM paralysis.
4.Define creativity?
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None of us has any clue just what the hell we are all living in but for sure we can alter our own reality as to how we see it...We all have our own version of a reality tunnel...And there are powers in place on earth who are pulling the strings to alter our reality tunnel which benefits them...We must pull back...Get in this game of tug a war or you will be cast aside...
Just look at what is winning pro bodybuilding shows these days...Guys like Jay Cutler are weird looking freaks who are being force fed down our throats as to what is a winning type of physique...So people's reality changes and starts to believe that its true....Is it though?
A smelly kid in my gym from India basically makes just about everyone puke by his body stench but my guess is when he goes home to his parents or wife or what ever, he smells to them like a bed of fucking roses...What is the true reality as to how this kid smells? Answer is there isn't one..But the more people you get into thinking that he smells like a bucket of shit, the perception will be that the guy reeks and needs to be hosed off...But does he?..
Marlyn Monroe was seen as a beauty like no other...But today she would be seen like a bucket of shit if you stripped the clothes off to some. what is the truth? iMOP there is no truth's...What if 2+2 doesn't not equal 4? Then what? Is red really red or blue really blue? Look at your finger Thur a microscope and tell me that your looking something solid...
We are all tuned into a certain frequency that seeswhat we see...Can we change the frequency? I think so...If i want to wake up one day and see things as funny, i could make my mind laugh all fucking day at everything and everything...Even if someone was torchering you, you have the ability to see it as funny if you really wanted to...
Dance down the road like i do and see how people look at you...Most think that I'm a fool for doing so but guess what. I have quite a few people following me...Most think its weird but what if everyone started doing it...And that became there new reality...The weirdness would be from the people won't don't dance as much as i do...
I have littrly danced for 4 days straight down every street in my home town...I've made alot of people smile by doing this...
I suggest that anyone who reads this, take a day off of work one sunny day and just get to the streets and dance...Drugs or no drugs, it does not matter...The real truths are not found inside churches with grown men draped in Velvet but are found on this living organism we call earth...And when you dance, the earth feels your energy and smiles....
Tviking
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None of us has any clue just what the hell we are all living in but for sure we can alter our own reality as to how we see it...We all have our own version of a reality tunnel...And there are powers in place on earth who are pulling the strings to alter our reality tunnel which benefits them...We must pull back...Get in this game of tug a war or you will be cast aside...
Just look at what is winning pro bodybuilding shows these days...Guys like Jay Cutler are weird looking freaks who are being force fed down our throats as to what is a winning type of physique...So people's reality changes and starts to believe that its true....Is it though?
A smelly kid in my gym from India basically makes just about everyone puke by his body stench but my guess is when he goes home to his parents or wife or what ever, he smells to them like a bed of fucking roses...What is the true reality as to how this kid smells? Answer is there isn't one..But the more people you get into thinking that he smells like a bucket of shit, the perception will be that the guy reeks and needs to be hosed off...But does he?..
Marlyn Monroe was seen as a beauty like no other...But today she would be seen like a bucket of shit if you stripped the clothes off to some. what is the truth? iMOP there is no truth's...What if 2+2 doesn't not equal 4? Then what? Is red really red or blue really blue? Look at your finger Thur a microscope and tell me that your looking something solid...
We are all tuned into a certain frequency that seeswhat we see...Can we change the frequency? I think so...If i want to wake up one day and see things as funny, i could make my mind laugh all fucking day at everything and everything...Even if someone was torchering you, you have the ability to see it as funny if you really wanted to...
Dance down the road like i do and see how people look at you...Most think that I'm a fool for doing so but guess what. I have quite a few people following me...Most think its weird but what if everyone started doing it...And that became there new reality...The weirdness would be from the people won't don't dance as much as i do...
I have littrly danced for 4 days straight down every street in my home town...I've made alot of people smile by doing this...
I suggest that anyone who reads this, take a day off of work one sunny day and just get to the streets and dance...Drugs or no drugs, it does not matter...The real truths are not found inside churches with grown men draped in Velvet but are found on this living organism we call earth...And when you dance, the earth feels your energy and smiles....
Tviking
excellent post bro! you're right, reality is based on one's perceptions, but i believe there are some things are are black and white and not grey. for example 2+2 does equal 4 because if it didn't physics and mathematics couldn't exist
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If you don't mind spending a few minutes reading a somewhat confusing article, check this out and post your impressions/thoughts. This involves quantum mechanics so it would be nice if we could have some scientists, such as the True Adonis, offer their opinions!
http://www.integralscience.org/sacredscience/SS_quantum.html
Scientist... ::)
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This is common knowledge. :D
That's actually a really informative link. Thanks for sharing.
You may also enjoy this
thats cool but why should we listen to a bunch of guys with pompadours and mullets?
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;)
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nice.
The Battle for Life is the Battle for Sanity. :)
Hasn't Decartes been through this already?
I'll trust my sense perception, thanks.
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excellent post bro! you're right, reality is based on one's perceptions, but i believe there are some things are are black and white and not grey. for example 2+2 does equal 4 because if it didn't physics and mathematics couldn't exist
yes but what if 2+2=4 only on this vibration...And that we could change to a diff/frequency where 2+2 doesn't equal anything close to 4...Would that not be considered a grey area...
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Hasn't Decartes been through this already?
Day-cart was a French fag.
Not unlike Alex23.
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yes but what if 2+2=4 only on this vibration...And that we could change to a diff/frequency where 2+2 doesn't equal anything close to 4...Would that not be considered a grey area...
well i think if it did change then many things that require precision, such as making many material things like cars, bridges, buildings, would be shit canned and we would be royally fucked :o
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some great minds have converged in this thread ::)
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some great minds have converged in this thread ::)
Yep, all we need is Johnny Falcon to chime in to make it complete ;D
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johny falcon is daddy waddy.
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well i think if it did change then many things that require precision, such as making many material things like cars, bridges, buildings, would be shit canned and we would be royally fucked :o
no science is perfect, you wouldnt be able to change it with a vibration. You could change the laws of physics and then buildings and bridges would fall, but Math cannot be changed. Even on planet Nirubi 2+2 =4
Thas why some people think God is math.
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this all brings us to the age-old question... if Jack helped you off the horse, would you help Jackoff the horse??
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no science is perfect, you wouldnt be able to change it with a vibration. You could change the laws of physics and then buildings and bridges would fall, but Math cannot be changed. Even on planet Nirubi 2+2 =4
Thas why some people think God is math.
OMG God is math and math is the Queen of all sciences lol
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no science is perfect, you wouldnt be able to change it with a vibration. You could change the laws of physics and then buildings and bridges would fall, but Math cannot be changed. Even on planet Nirubi 2+2 =4
Thas why some people think God is math.
WTF? LMAO
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this all brings us to the age-old question... if Jack helped you off the horse, would you help Jackoff the horse??
probably not but Jack to drop to his knees so he could have the title "pro bodybuilder" next to his name...Even though it was the PDI :-\
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None of us has any clue just what the hell we are all living in but for sure we can alter our own reality as to how we see it...We all have our own version of a reality tunnel...And there are powers in place on earth who are pulling the strings to alter our reality tunnel which benefits them...We must pull back...Get in this game of tug a war or you will be cast aside...
Just look at what is winning pro bodybuilding shows these days...Guys like Jay Cutler are weird looking freaks who are being force fed down our throats as to what is a winning type of physique...So people's reality changes and starts to believe that its true....Is it though?
A smelly kid in my gym from India basically makes just about everyone puke by his body stench but my guess is when he goes home to his parents or wife or what ever, he smells to them like a bed of fucking roses...What is the true reality as to how this kid smells? Answer is there isn't one..But the more people you get into thinking that he smells like a bucket of shit, the perception will be that the guy reeks and needs to be hosed off...But does he?..
Marlyn Monroe was seen as a beauty like no other...But today she would be seen like a bucket of shit if you stripped the clothes off to some. what is the truth? iMOP there is no truth's...What if 2+2 doesn't not equal 4? Then what? Is red really red or blue really blue? Look at your finger Thur a microscope and tell me that your looking something solid...
We are all tuned into a certain frequency that seeswhat we see...Can we change the frequency? I think so...If i want to wake up one day and see things as funny, i could make my mind laugh all fucking day at everything and everything...Even if someone was torchering you, you have the ability to see it as funny if you really wanted to...
Dance down the road like i do and see how people look at you...Most think that I'm a fool for doing so but guess what. I have quite a few people following me...Most think its weird but what if everyone started doing it...And that became there new reality...The weirdness would be from the people won't don't dance as much as i do...
I have littrly danced for 4 days straight down every street in my home town...I've made alot of people smile by doing this...
I suggest that anyone who reads this, take a day off of work one sunny day and just get to the streets and dance...Drugs or no drugs, it does not matter...The real truths are not found inside churches with grown men draped in Velvet but are found on this living organism we call earth...And when you dance, the earth feels your energy and smiles....
Tviking
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yes but what if 2+2=4 only on this vibration...And that we could change to a diff/frequency where 2+2 doesn't equal anything close to 4...Would that not be considered a grey area...
No, ...that would be network marketing! :D
Seriously though, in network mktg, 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4. In network mktg, there's really no such thing as addition.
In network mktg, it's all duplication, & geometric growth (ie: multiplication on steroids)