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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bast175 on March 28, 2008, 06:07:37 PM
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As i did some deep google searching i have come across indisputable evidence linking Layne Norton to drug use. Apparently he posts of a pharmaceutical board. I knew he was way to big to be a natural. If you are 220 and calipering in at 10% as a natural something is fishy any off. Not to mention the guy was benching 500 pounds when he ripped his pec. This man is all lies and has been fooling many for years. I am ashamed to ever believe that this disgrace was ever natural. I think all the signs are obvious. The increase in strength, the size, water retention, his gym rage antics. It is all so clear now. No one just rips a pec out of no where like that. See for yourself...
http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?p=2269639&posted=1#post2269639
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1178771&d=1204729259)
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As i did some deep google searching i have come across indisputable evidence linking Layne Norton to drug use. Apparently he posts of a pharmaceutical board. I knew he was way to big to be a natural. If you are 220 and calipering in at 10% as a natural something is fishy any off. Not to mention the guy was benching 500 pounds when he ripped his pec. This man is all lies and has been fooling many for years. I am ashamed to ever believe that this disgrace was ever natural. I think all the signs are obvious. The increase in strength, the size, water retention, his gym rage antics. It is all so clear now. No one just rips a pec out of no where like that. See for yourself...
http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?p=2269639&posted=1#post2269639
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1178771&d=1204729259)
Epic Layne Norton fake account to Attempt to tarnish his image.
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Epic Layne Norton fake account to Attempt to tarnish his image.
doodoo
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Way too small to be on drugs.
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Yeah.
Lame Norton really would be that stupid to post his regular AIM name on the board.
He wouldn't be able to come up with a new name, nooooo. That would be way to difficult.
I sure hope the guy who made the fake account made sure to use a safe proxy and a safe fake mail account.
Because Lame Norton sure has a good case for defamation of character here.
Or what do you think.... Bast? ;D
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Yeah.
Lame Norton really would be that stupid to post his regular AIM name on the board.
He wouldn't be able to come up with a new name, nooooo. That would be way to difficult.
I sure hope the guy who made the fake account made sure to use a safe proxy and a safe fake mail account.
Because Lame Norton sure has a good case for defamation of character here.
Or what do you think.... Bast? ;D
Hey, like i said i didnt post it =D, it is copy and pasted however
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As i did some deep google searching i have come across indisputable evidence linking Layne Norton to drug use. Apparently he posts of a pharmaceutical board. I knew he was way to big to be a natural. If you are 220 and calipering in at 10% as a natural something is fishy any off. Not to mention the guy was benching 500 pounds when he ripped his pec. This man is all lies and has been fooling many for years. I am ashamed to ever believe that this disgrace was ever natural. I think all the signs are obvious. The increase in strength, the size, water retention, his gym rage antics. It is all so clear now. No one just rips a pec out of no where like that. See for yourself...
http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?p=2269639&posted=1#post2269639
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1178771&d=1204729259)
Monster jealousy.......I was 220 and around 10%. I have benched 380 (tore pec at 390), Squatted 500, deadlifted 565........you going to try and say I am on drugs? You want so badly to have him be on drugs that you wasted that much time "deep googling". You knew he was "way to big to be a natural"... ::)
Actually lift and eat for it and you may actually get bigger.
Arent you the guy with 10" calves?
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Monster jealousy.......I was 220 and around 10%. I have benched 380 (tore pec at 390), Squatted 500, deadlifted 565........you going to try and say I am on drugs? You want so badly to have him be on drugs that you wasted that much time "deep googling". You knew he was "way to big to be a natural"... ::)
Actually lift and eat for it and you may actually get bigger.
Arent you the guy with 10" calves?
Ohh brother... i'd rather not here about the man you "once" were. It is rather boring to hear you drone on about it. Frankly i think no one really cares.
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Hey, like i said i didnt post it =D, it is copy and pasted however
Well, great.
Then you have nothing to worry about.
Only the guy who posted it. He will have to wait and see if Layme Norton contacts the website to get the IP info and to move on and perhaps further get on with legal action.
But you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
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Well, great.
Then you have nothing to worry about.
Only the guy who posted it. He will have to wait and see if Layme Norton contacts the website to get the IP info and to move on and perhaps further get on with legal action.
But you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
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You are correct. I don't ;D.
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Hahahaha.
I feel dirty after watching that, I'll go take a shower ;D ;D
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Hahahaha.
I feel dirty after watching that, I'll go take a shower ;D ;D
I can't believe you watched it. :o
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Probably the most amazing case of self ownage on the part of Bast that the world has ever seen.
I get a weird feeling inside knowing that bast spent the time and effort to do that. I don't know if I can classify it as pity, sadness, malaise, embarrassment or what, but I can no longer look at the name bast without the overwhelming sense of lameness in his name.
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I can't believe you watched it. :o
I did, from a completely heterosexual point of view.
The 2 guys are definitely gay, no doubt about it, very passionate.
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I can't believe you watched it. :o
Fucking OWNED! ;D
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That was written by "True Adonis" himself, very easy to guess.
Bast175 is jsut his bitch, so he only follows along.
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I've watched this like ten times looking for the funny, cannot be found. I even sent it to a few buddies and asked them what's the inside joke I'm missing. They don't get it either.
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I've watched this like ten times looking for the funny, cannot be found. I even sent it to a few buddies and asked them what's the inside joke I'm missing. They don't get it either.
teh funny is covered in whole through the first six words of your post.
hope this helps.
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I can't believe you watched it. :o
For real!
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For real!
He didn't mean to post that did he? ;D
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Bast is such an internet wizard ::)
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I've watched this like ten times looking for the funny, cannot be found. I even sent it to a few buddies and asked them what's the inside joke I'm missing. They don't get it either.
You're missing the point.
(The point being, the hardness in your pants ;D)
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As i did some deep google searching i have come across indisputable evidence linking Layne Norton to drug use. Apparently he posts of a pharmaceutical board. I knew he was way to big to be a natural. If you are 220 and calipering in at 10% as a natural something is fishy any off. Not to mention the guy was benching 500 pounds when he ripped his pec. This man is all lies and has been fooling many for years. I am ashamed to ever believe that this disgrace was ever natural. I think all the signs are obvious. The increase in strength, the size, water retention, his gym rage antics. It is all so clear now. No one just rips a pec out of no where like that. See for yourself...
http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?p=2269639&posted=1#post2269639
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1178771&d=1204729259)
layne owns your mind
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You're missing the point.
(The point being, the hardness in your pants ;D)
I'm always erect when reading getbig. Owning people gives me that great sensation.
I thought that was normal, no?
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This thread has classic Getbig written all over it. ;D
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I'm always erect when reading getbig. Owning people gives me that great sensation.
I thought that was normal, no?
once again without pics or video im calling pure bullshit
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once again without pics or video im calling pure bullshit
ROFL
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your gay, you know that right?
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Hey gh15, does this guy Layne Norton do drugs you think? ???
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Hahahaha.
I feel dirty after watching that, I'll go take a shower ;D ;D
the x rated version is better...hhehehe ;D
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Layne is a good guy. Trains hard and gets good results!
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Ohh brother... i'd rather not here about the man you "once" were. It is rather boring to hear you drone on about it. Frankly i think no one really cares.
The man I "once" was will be a man you "never" will be....and even the man I am "now" is something you couldn't achieve.
Speaking of no one cares......nice show of support for your theory on this thread....
FAIL
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I\\\'m always erect when reading getbig. Owning people gives me that great sensation.
I thought that was normal, no?
I thought that was Musclephone.
Thanks Musclephone!
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I'm always erect when reading getbig. Owning people gives me that great sensation.
I thought that was normal, no?
Considering that you probably dont even own the trailer you live in its a pretty big strech to say you own people...even in internet terms.
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Bast175 = The leafy bug
HTH
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Bast175 = The leafy bug
HTH
haha..it's true
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Hahahaha.
I feel dirty after watching that, I'll go take a shower ;D ;D
hahah watched it with my wife and we both loved it
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Layne is a good guy. Trains hard and gets good results!
And now he has been proven to juice haahaha what a fucking disgrace.
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As i did some deep google searching i have come across indisputable evidence linking Layne Norton to drug use. Apparently he posts of a pharmaceutical board. I knew he was way to big to be a natural. If you are 220 and calipering in at 10% as a natural something is fishy any off. Not to mention the guy was benching 500 pounds when he ripped his pec. This man is all lies and has been fooling many for years. I am ashamed to ever believe that this disgrace was ever natural. I think all the signs are obvious. The increase in strength, the size, water retention, his gym rage antics. It is all so clear now. No one just rips a pec out of no where like that. See for yourself...
http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?p=2269639&posted=1#post2269639
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1178771&d=1204729259)
First off who the hell is Layne Norton? 2nd the guy could be drug free at 220 and 10%.
A good bencher can press 500 at that wt with a modern bench short and be drug free as well, c'mon.
I am sick of the " this guy is big and strong" so he must be juiced to the gills thread.
Part of the reason I am anti extreme drug use is due to this kind of drugs are verything and in every lifter kind of post.
If some guy is small, weak or has a crappy physique he can always blame lack of drugs on why he sucks so bad...pretty pathetic and loser way to think if ya ask me.
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Where the hell did Layne say he was benching 500? I'm pretty damn sure he didn't. Layne does not bench 500 and I doubt he ever claimed that.
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First off who the hell is Layne Norton? 2nd the guy could be drug free at 220 and 10%.
A good bencher can press 500 at that wt with a modern bench short and be drug free as well, c'mon.
I am sick of the " this guy is big and strong" so he must be juiced to the gills thread.
Part of the reason I am anti extreme drug use is due to this kind of drugs are verything and in every lifter kind of post.
If some guy is small, weak or has a crappy physique he can always blame lack of drugs on why he sucks so bad...pretty pathetic and loser way to think if ya ask me.
shut up you hypocrit drug user
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And now he has been proven to juice haahaha what a fucking disgrace.
Arent you the guy who made an anti-juice thread and it backfired on you?
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And now he has been proven to juice haahaha what a fucking disgrace.
stupid gerturd.
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As i did some deep google searching i have come across indisputable evidence linking Layne Norton to drug use. Apparently he posts of a pharmaceutical board. I knew he was way to big to be a natural. If you are 220 and calipering in at 10% as a natural something is fishy any off. Not to mention the guy was benching 500 pounds when he ripped his pec. This man is all lies and has been fooling many for years. I am ashamed to ever believe that this disgrace was ever natural. I think all the signs are obvious. The increase in strength, the size, water retention, his gym rage antics. It is all so clear now. No one just rips a pec out of no where like that. See for yourself...
http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?p=2269639&posted=1#post2269639
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1178771&d=1204729259)
shoot Bast i think you've got as much development as Layne, Layne really isn't all that big especially for a juicer, i know you've said you've never juiced.
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Someone post a tube of him stomping around the gym screaming.
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hahah watched it with my wife and we both loved it
I have never seen such passionate kissing between a male in a female (in porn for exemple), did you? :o
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I have never seen such passionate kissing between a male in a female (in porn for exemple), did you? :o
lol I'm sure BayGBM liked it ;D
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First off who the hell is Layne Norton? 2nd the guy could be drug free at 220 and 10%.
A good bencher can press 500 at that wt with a modern bench short and be drug free as well, c'mon.
I am sick of the " this guy is big and strong" so he must be juiced to the gills thread.
Part of the reason I am anti extreme drug use is due to this kind of drugs are verything and in every lifter kind of post.
If some guy is small, weak or has a crappy physique he can always blame lack of drugs on why he sucks so bad...pretty pathetic and loser way to think if ya ask me.
STFU OLD MAN OMFG I SWEAR YOU ARE OBLIVIOUS TO EVERYTHING! No one cares about you or your wife or your fucking little dog. You are so annoying with yourself hate threads trying to get attention from people. You are no funny. You are almost a creepy as special "I grope fitness girls" ed. Grow up and maybe people will stop feeling sorry for you.
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STFU OLD MAN OMFG I SWEAR YOU ARE OBLIVIOUS TO EVERYTHING! No one cares about you or your wife or your fucking little dog. You are so annoying with yourself hate threads trying to get attention from people. You are no funny. You are almost a creepy as special "I grope fitness girls" ed. Grow up and maybe people will stop feeling sorry for you.
meltdown
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STFU OLD MAN OMFG I SWEAR YOU ARE OBLIVIOUS TO EVERYTHING! No one cares about you or your wife or your fucking little dog. You are so annoying with yourself hate threads trying to get attention from people. You are no funny. You are almost a creepy as special "I grope fitness girls" ed. Grow up and maybe people will stop feeling sorry for you.
I asked the admin to remove the thread in question as it was an obvious fake. I know what Layne uses and its not steroids at all.
BTW, Bast you're a dumb ass....hope that helps
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I asked the admin to remove the thread in question as it was an obvious fake. I know what Layne uses and its not steroids at all.
BTW, Bast you're a dumb ass....hope that helps
what does layne "use" ? ::)
BTW, thats Queefy Bug, not Bastino.
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First off who the hell is Layne Norton? 2nd the guy could be drug free at 220 and 10%.
A good bencher can press 500 at that wt with a modern bench short and be drug free as well, c'mon.
I am sick of the " this guy is big and strong" so he must be juiced to the gills thread.
Part of the reason I am anti extreme drug use is due to this kind of drugs are verything and in every lifter kind of post.
If some guy is small, weak or has a crappy physique he can always blame lack of drugs on why he sucks so bad...pretty pathetic and loser way to think if ya ask me.
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layne nortins a big fking pusssy and a joke...worst genetics ever seen....natural pro..lil sisssy fagggottt tore his pec recently and was crying about his bb'ing career being over...what a lil fag bunnny
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I think Layne will be the first to admit his natural structure is not the best. That said, I give him credit for having great genetics for putting on size and getting in condition. His tear sucks, but he once recovered from a similarly detrimental injury years ago.
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And now he has been proven to juice haahaha what a fucking disgrace.
There = no such proof. Layne = drug free.
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I think Layne will be the first to admit his natural structure is not the best. That said, I give him credit for having great genetics for putting on size and getting in condition. His tear sucks, but he once recovered from a similarly detrimental injury years ago.
goddamn you are dumb.
great genetics for nothing....
great genetics for putting on size is a guy eating shitty foods all day and training haphazardly this natural homo eats sleeps and dreams bb'ing 26/7/365 iv's BCAAS' and everything else to look like a skinny geek.....he has no muscle as evident when people see him out in his tight lil armour all shirt and bb.com visor...kinda reminds me of you...SHIT genetics.........
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goddamn you are dumb.
great genetics for nothing....
great genetics for putting on size is a guy eating shitty foods all day and training haphazardly this natural homo eats sleeps and dreams bb'ing 26/7/365 iv's BCAAS' and everything else to look like a skinny geek.....he has no muscle as evident when people see him out in his tight lil armour all shirt and bb.com visor...kinda reminds me of you...SHIT genetics.........
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why dont you show us what you look like
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goddamn you are dumb.
great genetics for nothing....
great genetics for putting on size is a guy eating shitty foods all day and training haphazardly this natural homo eats sleeps and dreams bb'ing 26/7/365 iv's BCAAS' and everything else to look like a skinny geek.....he has no muscle as evident when people see him out in his tight lil armour all shirt and bb.com visor...kinda reminds me of you...SHIT genetics.........
Epic brutality. Although I think Matt has better genetics than Layne if you don't count his taste in socks.
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goddamn you are dumb.
great genetics for nothing....
great genetics for putting on size is a guy eating shitty foods all day and training haphazardly this natural homo eats sleeps and dreams bb'ing 26/7/365 iv's BCAAS' and everything else to look like a skinny geek.....he has no muscle as evident when people see him out in his tight lil armour all shirt and bb.com visor...kinda reminds me of you...SHIT genetics.........
I think that's a little harsh. All I'm saying is that Layne has been able to put on decent size and get shredded. At 5'11, he has been as high as 227 and not exactly fat. That's pretty good if he is indeed natural. I agree that his structure leaves a little to be desired, but you can only work with what you have.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/laynenorton/Layne%20Pump%20up%20most%20muscular.jpg)
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I think that's a little harsh. All I'm saying is that Layne has been able to put on decent size and get shredded. At 5'11, he has been as high as 227 and not exactly fat. That's pretty good if he is indeed natural. I agree that his structure leaves a little to be desired, but you can only work with what you have.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/laynenorton/Layne%20Pump%20up%20most%20muscular.jpg)
That may be Layne's best picture.
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That picture is from 2004 and Layne looked even better at the NGA Heart of America Natural Classic where he turned pro.
Layne has great strength too:
I don't know why so many on here rip on him. He is a polite and reasonable person.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=477321&d=1173239132)
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why dont you show us what you look like
Like so many on here.....it wont ever happen.
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That picture is from 2004 and Layne looked even better at the NGA Heart of America Natural Classic where he turned pro.
I don't know why so many on here rip on him. He is a polite and reasonable person.
There = no reason to rip on Layne. Besides being a bit weird online in his early years, he = now intelligent, well educated, polite, helpful and has a better natural physique than most drug users can only dream about.
Brutal jealousy.
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Layne doesn't look like a drug user.
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That picture is from 2004 and Layne looked even better at the NGA Heart of America Natural Classic where he turned pro.
Layne has great strength too:
I don't know why so many on here rip on him. He is a polite and reasonable person.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=477321&d=1173239132)
I think Layne is 6'0?
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I think Layne is 6'0?
He claims 5'10 and 1/2, but I think it's his structure which makes him look taller than he is. He has long arms for example.
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I think that's a little harsh. All I'm saying is that Layne has been able to put on decent size and get shredded. At 5'11, he has been as high as 227 and not exactly fat. That's pretty good if he is indeed natural. I agree that his structure leaves a little to be desired, but you can only work with what you have.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/laynenorton/Layne%20Pump%20up%20most%20muscular.jpg)
hey at last you a are good sport when i rip on you you realize that this is just the www and not reallife...
lil harsh on "biolayne" ya but this is getbig. :-*
anyway you missedmy point i know guys with good genetics and clean and they blow him away....the exact thinng you point out on him ar genetic problems for bb'ers long arms legs etc...i see many guys blow their lives and health with drugs and it never fixes their structure...he could be 297 and still look like a big spider....
these natural pros kill me weak ass shows beating 1-2 people and getting their pro cards....ha ha ha ha drugsuckerfor lifee is a pro ain'the....fucking punkassss azdrugsker you fking bitch...
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Epic brutality. Although I think Matt has better genetics than Layne if you don't count his taste in socks.
hey it's getbig!!! :-*
matt probably does he's shorter! ;D :D
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these natural pros kill me weak ass shows beating 1-2 people and getting their pro cards....ha ha ha ha
2007 Mr. Thunder Bay top three (of three). :-\
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you see my point! ;D
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2007 Mr. Thunder Bay top three (of three). :-\
norton is hormonized,,been to hormones and bi products,,done this and that ,,,from ephedrine to clen to estrogen blockers to simple orals,,
the 3 in those pictures are naturals and they eat shit because they are naturals but gh15 respect them
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norton is hormonized,,been to hormones and bi products,,done this and that ,,,from ephedrine to clen to estrogen blockers to simple orals,,
the 3 in those pictures are naturals and they eat shit because they are naturals but gh15 respect them
Meltdown.
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2007 Mr. Thunder Bay top three (of three). :-\
To be honest, these guys look like they have done some small amounts of hormones too (looking at the growth pattern... delts, etc).
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what does layne "use" ? ::)
BTW, thats Queefy Bug, not Bastino.
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norton is hormonized,,been to hormones and bi products,,done this and that ,,,from ephedrine to clen to estrogen blockers to simple orals,,
lol you gotta be kidding
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hey at last you a are good sport when i rip on you you realize that this is just the www and not reallife...
lil harsh on "biolayne" ya but this is getbig. :-*
anyway you missedmy point i know guys with good genetics and clean and they blow him away....the exact thinng you point out on him ar genetic problems for bb'ers long arms legs etc...i see many guys blow their lives and health with drugs and it never fixes their structure...he could be 297 and still look like a big spider....
these natural pros kill me weak ass shows beating 1-2 people and getting their pro cards....ha ha ha ha drugsuckerfor lifee is a pro ain'the....fucking punkassss azdrugsker you fking bitch...
*cough* meltdown *cough*
No pic fat body?
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2007 Mr. Thunder Bay top three (of three). :-\
Are one of those three Jason Analstrong?
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If you are 220 and calipering in at 10% as a natural something is fishy any off. Not to mention the guy was benching 500 pounds when he ripped his pec. This man is all lies and has been fooling many for years.
OK, checked Layne's site. Where's the 500 bench quote come from again??
Another thing that I wanted to let you all know about was the fact that I decided I am going to compete again! That's right, my competitive nature has gotten the better of me and I just cannot stand it any longer! However, I will not be doing a bodybuilding show. Instead I am going to try my hand at raw drug-tested powerlifting! I am still a ways off from my first pro bodybuilding show but powerlifting is something that I sort of do anyway, and doing a meet just requires me to show up and do my thing in front of people. So these past few weeks I have been incoperating more powerlifting techniques (namely westside barbell techniques) into my training without totally abandoning my bodybuilding training. I have also been trying to get an idea of my raw maxes on each lift. Over these past two weeks my personal bests have been as follows:
Bench - 365
Squat - 495
Deadlift - 605
These are all raw lifts, no suits or straps, just wraps and a belt. On all these lifts I still felt like I had another 10-20 lbs left but I did not want to push it too hard maxing in my first couple weeks of powerlifting. I must say that the idea of competing has really gotten me re-invigorated. I cannot wait to get into the gym everyday to smash personal records!
I am aiming for fall to hit my first meet so keep checking in for updates! It should be a fun ride!
-Layne
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OK, checked Layne's site. Where's the 500 bench quote come from again??
i think he said he did 500 pounds with rubber bands.
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OK, checked Layne's site. Where's the 500 bench quote come from again??
w/ reverse bands. i think it was like 455 or something.
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oh, it was 545 I guess.
Had a really scary night tonight guys.
Tonight was Max Effort bench day and I was doing reverse band presses. I worked up to 445 X 3, 495 X 3, 535 X 1 with the heavy bands. Then I decided to go for 545. I got myself way too amped for the set, and as I lowered it to my chest, instead of focussing on proper form and hitting my lower chest/upper abs and pressing straight up I let it hit mid chest and instead of dumping it tried to press it. Immediately I felt my right pec stretch and give. I screamed "NO!" at the top of my lungs. I thought that was it, I thought for sure I had torn my pec. I sat up and I couldn't even look Isabel in the eyes. I was very upset, I broke out in a cold sweat and felt like I wanted to vomit. I didn't want to lift up my shirt to look at it but I knew I had to. I pulled off my shirt and took a look. No bruising or discoloration and suprisingly no immediate pain, just tightness. I tried flexing it and to my suprise it did flex. Then I started to get some pain after a few minutes. I was still convinced I had partially torn it even though you couldn't really see any dislocation of the pec or mis-shape.
Isabel and I both immediately decided to go to the hospital. I wanted to have someone look at this tonight. I had ice on it for 2 hours and by the time the doc saw it it was very tight. He had me go through some exercises. I wasn't feeling much pain I just told him it was very tight. I could still put my hand over my head, I could still resist him, and my flexibility was decent.
The doctor said he felt I had a severe strain. He felt that if I had injured the pec I would be in much more pain than I was. He told me to give it 5-7 days of rest then try out my flexibility in the gym. So right now I am cautiously optimistic. Hopefully 48 hours will come and go with no bruising and then likely I'll be in the clear. I felt like such a ****ing moron. I always preach about being careful in the gym and here I was, rushing through my workout, not warming up properly, and not executing the lift properly. I have no one to blame but myself. Hopefully this is a blessing in disguise to remind me that anyone can get injured at anytime. Hopefully it heals up fine and I can still do a powerlifting show in the summer. Right now the pec is pretty swollen but unless i stretch it hard there is very little pain. I'll keep you guys updated. I just feel like such a moron. Isabel was really great through the whole thing, as were my buddies in the gym, I had at least 15 people tell me that they hoped I was ok on the way out, made me feel better.
-Layne
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if he is natural, he looks prettty good to me!