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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: columbusdude82 on April 02, 2008, 03:50:43 AM
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How about bringing on two guests on your radio show who would passionately debate two diametrically opposite points of view: gh15 and Doggcrapp?
The first basically says you can't accomplish anything without drugs, can't get over 190 natural unless you're 6'2, etc... The second says you can get huge and strong with big eating and heavy lifting.
It would make for a good debate. Of course, it wouldn't have to be Dante and gh15 themselves, only people who represent their points of view...
You're welcome.
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and Queen Vissy should be on the show too.
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and Queen Vissy should be on the show too.
STFU, f a g g o t Your Excellency ::)
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Only if Dante promises to give Ed an Olive Oil bath.
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Also, Special Ed, you guys had Derek on the radio and didn't tell me? When was this????
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STFU, f a g g o t Your Excellency ::)
is there something "columbusdude andnumber" ? because if there is id like to know.
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I don't think Dante wants to talk drugs. I've noticed he talks like a politician these days when it comes to drugs in bb. For example he thinks a lot of the so called naturals really are clean.
Dante actually wrote a lot about drug use on 'animalkits' back when he started posting about his system. He said the pros and top amateurs really never got off at all. Just like gh15 says. So Dante recommended a 'cruise' occasionally where you just took a low dose of test and added Clomid, HCG, etc.
I think it's due to the legal climate that Dante doesn't want to talk drugs anymore.
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I don't think Dante wants to talk drugs. I've noticed he talks like a politician these days when it comes to drugs in bb. For example he thinks a lot of the so called naturals really are clean.
Dante actually wrote a lot about drug use on 'animalkits' back when he started posting about his system. He said the pros and top amateurs really never got off at all. Just like gh15 says. So Dante recommended a 'cruise' occasionally where you just took a low dose of test and added Clomid, HCG, etc.
I think it's due to the legal climate that Dante doesn't want to talk drugs anymore.
Fair enough. Like I said, it doesn't have to be Dante himself. Only someone from the "Dante School of Thought"...
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STFU, f a g g o t Your Excellency ::)
You're skating on thin ice there, "big" guy.
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is there something "columbusdude andnumber" ? because if there is id like to know.
You're skating on thin ice there, "big" guy.
OK, mars and "his" gimmick ::)
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Watch the bloodpressure there my overweight wheelchair bound friend, I'm nobody's gimmick.
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I heard Mars sucks a mean dick
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I heard Mars sucks a mean dick
the best this side of the danube
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the best this side of the danube
hahaha I would give him the facial abuse treatment
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Watch the bloodpressure there my overweight wheelchair bound friend, I'm nobody's gimmick.
Hey Hey Hey! It's not nice to make fun of handicapped people :(
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No response from special ed.... do you always treat your fanbase so callously? :(
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No response from special ed.... do you always treat your fanbase so callously? :(
maybe he just hates you
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STFU, f a g g o t Your Excellency ::)
who the fuck are you ::)
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maybe he just hates you
Them christkillers cant never be trusted y'all...
who the fuck are you ::)
your mom's fuckbuddy...
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bwaahahahahaaa, as if gh15 would ever speak in public.
I'd rather hear cumdrizzle against Milos. ;D ;D
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bwaahahahahaaa, as if gh15 would ever speak in public.
I'd rather hear cumdrizzle against Milos. ;D ;D
No one asked for your opinion, donkeydong ::)
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No one asked for your opinion, donkeydong ::)
And no one for yours, colonbusdude.
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And no one for yours, colonbusdude.
Epic failure...
Say, is stark ever gonna post pics of his wife's luscious tits or what???? I'm getting impatient here!
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Epic failure...
Say, is stark ever gonna post pics of his wife's luscious tits or what???? I'm getting impatient here!
thanks for bringing up the topic.
I'm waiting as well.
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Epic failure...
Say, is stark ever gonna post pics of his wife's luscious tits or what???? I'm getting impatient here!
I laughed at colonbusdude. my sense of humour is not very sophisticated though...
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I laughed at colonbusdude. my sense of humour is not very sophisticated though...
Neither is your sister, but I still nail her on the side... what's your point? ::)
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How about bringing on two guests on your radio show who would passionately debate two diametrically opposite points of view: gh15 and Doggcrapp?
The first basically says you can't accomplish anything without drugs, can't get over 190 natural unless you're 6'2, etc... The second says you can get huge and strong with big eating and heavy lifting.
It would make for a good debate. Of course, it wouldn't have to be Dante and gh15 themselves, only people who represent their points of view...
You're welcome.
dante has no interest in doing internet radio.....trust me on that one.
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dante has no interest in doing internet radio.....trust me on that one.
Someone who thinks the same way on the debate can take his place then...
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Someone who thinks the same way on the debate can take his place then...
I guess but who are you gonna get? most of the guys he trains who'd have access to that type of information aren't gonna do it.
I don't know...
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Honestly, I don't even know who Dante is or what Doggcrapp is. As far as I'm concerned, there is powerlifting and there is bodybuilding and nothing much has changed in the past 40 years:
1. You want to get strong, lift heavy, eat a ton, train lower reps and mix androgens and anabolics.
2. You want to get huge, lift heavy, eat a ton, train moderate reps and mix your androgens and anabolics.
3. You want to get shredded, cut your calories, up your cardio and take your Winstrol and gh and ephedrine.
IMHO, everything else is a gimmick, just like supplement gimmicks: Mike Francois's 100 sets per bodypart, Mike Mentzers 2 sets per bodypart, 100 reps, singles, all that shit is just a load of crap used to sell programs/product to the ignorant or gullible.
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Honestly, I don't even know who Dante is or what Doggcrapp is. As far as I'm concerned, there is powerlifting and there is bodybuilding and nothing much has changed in the past 40 years:
1. You want to get strong, lift heavy, eat a ton, train lower reps and mix androgens and anabolics.
2. You want to get huge, lift heavy, eat a ton, train moderate reps and mix your androgens and anabolics.
3. You want to get shredded, cut your calories, up your cardio and take your Winstrol and gh and ephedrine.
IMHO, everything else is a gimmick, just like supplement gimmicks: Mike Francois's 100 sets per bodypart, Mike Mentzers 2 sets per bodypart, 100 reps, singles, all that shit is just a load of crap used to sell programs/product to the ignorant or gullible.
YOU would love this guy Dogshit Ed, he got all pissed cuz you were calling Brewer lunchtrey. He advocates getting big and fat off seaon in order to be a better bodybuilder. i remember him going off on a few bodybuilders, but the guy has never graced the stage himself, just a mr know it all. Gh would rip him apart
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YOU would love this guy Dogshit Ed, he got all pissed cuz you were calling Brewer lunchtrey. He advocates getting big and fat off seaon in order to be a better bodybuilder. i remember him going off on a few bodybuilders, but the guy has never graced the stage himself, just a mr know it all. Gh would rip him apart
thats not true at all. dante is an advocate of VERY high protien intake, but ive never heard him ever say he advocated getting fat. HE HIMSELF does indeed eat a shitload of junkf food everyday..at least thats what he says he eats(along with 500+grams of protein)..but that is because dante is a very large ectomorph that has to take in hug amounts of calories to grow.
dante is a stand up guy... very honest and tons of integrity.
NOW, if you ask me what i think of his training program? i think its gimmicky and not based on science. BUT it does seem to work.
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Honestly, I don't even know who Dante is or what Doggcrapp is. As far as I'm concerned, there is powerlifting and there is bodybuilding and nothing much has changed in the past 40 years:
1. You want to get strong, lift heavy, eat a ton, train lower reps and mix androgens and anabolics.
2. You want to get huge, lift heavy, eat a ton, train moderate reps and mix your androgens and anabolics.
3. You want to get shredded, cut your calories, up your cardio and take your Winstrol and gh and ephedrine.
IMHO, everything else is a gimmick, just like supplement gimmicks: Mike Francois's 100 sets per bodypart, Mike Mentzers 2 sets per bodypart, 100 reps, singles, all that shit is just a load of crap used to sell programs/product to the ignorant or gullible.
well nobody will ever mistake you for knowing anything about building muscle with weights drugs and food.
stick to making people laugh it's what you are good at....for a time before the gimmick gets old or some juiced up roid head breaks your face on camera when you lay a stupid quip at them and they rage.
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until you post a picture of yourself looking better Special Ed destroys you.
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Honestly, I don't even know who Dante is or what Doggcrapp is. As far as I'm concerned, there is powerlifting and there is bodybuilding and nothing much has changed in the past 40 years:
1. You want to get strong, lift heavy, eat a ton, train lower reps and mix androgens and anabolics.
2. You want to get huge, lift heavy, eat a ton, train moderate reps and mix your androgens and anabolics.
3. You want to get shredded, cut your calories, up your cardio and take your Winstrol and gh and ephedrine.
IMHO, everything else is a gimmick, just like supplement gimmicks: Mike Francois's 100 sets per bodypart, Mike Mentzers 2 sets per bodypart, 100 reps, singles, all that shit is just a load of crap used to sell programs/product to the ignorant or gullible.
That's pretty much what he says. Train progressively in a moderate rep range and eat a lot. Of course there are some additional useful tips and tricks involved too.
I think the most beneficial aspect of his "program" is the "logbook"... you try to increase the loads and make yourself accountable.
His program isn't a gimmick at all IMO.
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That's pretty much what he says. Train progressively in a moderate rep range and eat a lot. Of course there are some additional useful tips and tricks involved too.
I think the most beneficial aspect of his "program" is the "logbook"... you try to increase the loads and make yourself accountable.
His program isn't a gimmick at all IMO.
it's actually a very good program with the exception of using the Smith or Hammer machines for all of your compound pressing movements and the overall lack of carbohydrates in the diet.
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it's actually a very good program with the exception of using the Smith or Hammer machines for all of your compound pressing movements and the overall lack of carbohydrates in the diet.
im not so sure that dante advises people o go low carbs...i think he taylors carb intake based on personal need for thm.......i know that he personally eats a shit load of high glycemic junk carbs..
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im not so sure that dante advises people o go low carbs...i think he taylors carb intake based on personal need for thm.......i know that he personally eats a shit load of high glycemic junk carbs..
almost every diet i've ever heard of one of those guys using cuts carbs completely after 1 or 2 in the afternoon with the exception of a little vegetables.
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almost every diet i've ever heard of one of those guys using cuts carbs completely after 1 or 2 in the afternoon with the exception of a little vegetables.
oh yeah your right...he does have you cut out carbs after a certain time...... not because he thinks carbs at night get stored as fat, but because he wants glycogen lower for morning cardio. (he has all his clients doing morning cardio regardless of off season or pre contest)
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it's actually a very good program with the exception of using the Smith or Hammer machines for all of your compound pressing movements and the overall lack of carbohydrates in the diet.
I agree it's a very good program. The basics are there, the load progression and the calorie surplus. The logbook makes the trainees regimented which I think is the best part.
I don't really believe in nutrient timing. I don't think cutting carbs at night prevents fat gain if there is no overall reduction in calories. Dante did concede on another forum that even if nutrient timing didn't work it still helped the athletes control their calorie intake.
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Isn't Dante fat?
Anyone got a pic of the internet guru?
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if youve got room for the carbs, your fine, but if you dont...theres no way your body is going to rise up and burn off carbohydrates at nigth time when your body is shutting down and slowing down...theyll just shuttle into adipose...
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Isn't Dante fat?
Anyone got a pic of the internet guru?
i wouldn't call him fat, from the pics i've seen he actually looks like VERY large, very strong man, is he carrying some bodyfat, of course but who isn't? my problem with the guy is that he meltsdown at the drop of a hat when he's challenged on something.
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dante is large, no doubt about it. FAT? no.
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theres no way your body is going to rise up and burn off carbohydrates at nigth time when your body is shutting down and slowing down...theyll just shuttle into adipose...
If you're eating below maintenance eating carbs at night isn't going to make you fat. You'll lose fat.
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If you're eating below maintenance eating carbs at night isn't going to make you fat. You'll lose fat.
eating below maintanece= eating into glycogen stores for energy= room for carbohyrates to be stored as something other than body fat
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is he natural?
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So what does that mean, he is on juice? I know plenty of huge trainers who don't take drugs and have a highish bodyfat, tissues soaked full of water, and look huge.
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Well if DC's program is eating a ton, training with heavy weight for moderate reps and keeping a training log, then I pretty much knew that from age 16 after reading Arnold's Encyclopedia.
Epic re-inventing of the wheel and giving it a stupid name.
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Well if DC's program is eating a ton, training with heavy weight for moderate reps and keeping a training log, then I pretty much knew that from age 16 after reading Arnold's Encyclopedia.
Epic re-inventing of the wheel and giving it a stupid name.
Vince Basile.......
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Honestly, I don't even know who Dante is or what Doggcrapp is. As far as I'm concerned, there is powerlifting and there is bodybuilding and nothing much has changed in the past 40 years:
1. You want to get strong, lift heavy, eat a ton, train lower reps and mix androgens and anabolics.
2. You want to get huge, lift heavy, eat a ton, train moderate reps and mix your androgens and anabolics.
3. You want to get shredded, cut your calories, up your cardio and take your Winstrol and gh and ephedrine.
IMHO, everything else is a gimmick, just like supplement gimmicks: Mike Francois's 100 sets per bodypart, Mike Mentzers 2 sets per bodypart, 100 reps, singles, all that shit is just a load of crap used to sell programs/product to the ignorant or gullible.
I think it has it's place to break up the monotony of training but for the most part I completely agree.
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Well if DC's program is eating a ton, training with heavy weight for moderate reps and keeping a training log, then I pretty much knew that from age 16 after reading Arnold's Encyclopedia.
Epic re-inventing of the wheel and giving it a stupid name.
no thats not really his plan at all. dante is a sort of high intensity break off...not wuite like mentzer, but sort of similar... he has his clients warm up first, then do one working set...but he employs rest pause, static holds, forced negatives...and other intensity techniques to try and reach full exhaustion. then after that one woring set, he always does weighted stretches on whatever muscle group is being worked.
he trains each body part twice a week, working out 4 days per week.