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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: musclecenter on April 05, 2008, 03:10:47 AM
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http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/fda_seizes_13_in_supplements_m.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/fda_seizes_13_in_supplements_m.html)
Federal agents seized more than $1.3 million in illegal dietary supplements from a Brighton business that markets products to bodybuilders, authorities announced Friday............
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I was wondering when this would happen.
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I thought Goodrum lived in NC
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Almost like a standard practice. For example, Gaspari used to include illegal steroids in their Haladrol-50 product. Now they sell a product named Haladrol Liquidgels, which is loaded with inactive ingredients and thus has zero anabolic activity.
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Almost like a standard practice. For example, Gaspari used to include illegal steroids in their Haladrol-50 product. Now they sell a product named Haladrol Liquidgels, which is loaded with inactive ingredients and thus has zero anabolic activity.
LOL yo anassi i dont work there anymore, but i was one of the guys you cursed out over the phone lol. I know ALLLOOOTTT more than what you just posted lol.....
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http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/fda_seizes_13_in_supplements_m.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/fda_seizes_13_in_supplements_m.html)
Federal agents seized more than $1.3 million in illegal dietary supplements from a Brighton business that markets products to bodybuilders, authorities announced Friday............
man i hope they seize all protien powders especially bodyfortress and eas all that shit ever did was make me break out, just like grains make me break out in the face what a load of shiet those products are
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are you allergic?
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LOL yo anassi i dont work there anymore, but i was one of the guys you cursed out over the phone lol. I know ALLLOOOTTT more than what you just posted lol.....
WTF you are talking about? ;D FYI: I never fuckin curse :D Seriously, you are apperently referring to that Kneller conflict..
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WTF you are talking about? ;D FYI: I never fuckin curse :D Seriously, you are apperently referring to that Kneller conflict..
How does it feel to live in a country with practically no 3rd world immigrants? :D
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WTF you are talking about? ;D FYI: I never fuckin curse :D Seriously, you are apperently referring to that Kneller conflict..
HAHA YES! I was the first one who picked up the phone haha. You were so angry you were stumbling on your curses lol. You pissed off the office manager something fierce haha, he tried to keep his cool n was pissed when he hung up haha. I wish you would have goten Rich himself...he gets set off so easily it woulda been hilarious to see him go insane lol......he probably would have smashed his office up (no joke)....
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HAHA YES! I was the first one who picked up the phone haha. You were so angry you were stumbling on your curses lol. You pissed off the office manager something fierce haha, he tried to keep his cool n was pissed when he hung up haha. I wish you would have goten Rich himself...he gets set off so easily it woulda been hilarious to see him go insane lol......he probably would have smashed his office up (no joke)....
LOL. So much funny shit have happened behind the scenes over the years that I could easily write a book or two. Unfortunately, I have no enough spare time right now. At least I can say I never sold out.
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are you allergic?
well it happens with alcohol and alcohol comes from grain aswell
i have perfect skin eating meat and fruits
if i eat anything processed i get acne, i think my body can handle fructose from fruits but not the hard on the body sugars like grains wich have no fructose
any kind of acne is a sign you are consuming something wrong for the body
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How does it feel to live in a country with practically no 3rd world immigrants? :D
Well, I have nothing againts those 3rd world immigrants. If anything, they just remind us (Americans and Finns) how lucky we actually are that we have a plenty of food around etc.
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LOL. So much funny shit have happened behind the scenes over the years that I could easily write a book or two. Unfortunately, I have no enough spare time right now.
I could write a small book just on my 2yrs lol. You have NO idea. I probably worked at the most conflicting company there is.....one company was restricted from talking to us under penalty of termination haha. I turned that place into a prank zone, no wonder im not there anymore hahaha. At least i had fun! I heard its boring there without me now and everyone keeps quitting haha (well, all the GOOD and SMART employee's have quit haha except for 2) You should see where the first batch of a certain products raws were stored for 6 months lol......ok lemme stop or im gonna get a call from an angry fat guy threatening me hahahahaha
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.ok lemme stop or im gonna get a call from an angry fat guy threatening me hahahahaha
Fat-Joe? ;D I recall calling him "Fat Face" (quite deservedly so) during that Kneller/MD.com conflict. Apperently, he didnt like that new nick name. :)
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Suppwned.
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You should see where the first batch of a certain products raws were stored for 6 months lol.
Im listening.. ;)
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Fat-Joe? ;D I recall calling him "Fat Face" (quite deservedly so) during that Kneller/MD.com conflict. Apperently, he didnt like that new nick name. :)
Hes been called worse on many occasions (and had to take it) lol. He thinks hes cool cuz he gets to hire all the women he spends most of his day wacking off to their pictures and talking about "she owes me big time, i got her on the cover, a bj would do" (and thats the sensored version lol).
Rich was cool to work for some of the time tho. He let us have fun most of the time and was always cool outside of work. His wife was cooler. In the end he was just a cheap fuk haha (once yelled at me for trying to throw out a $2 disposable mop while moving him out of his old house haha)
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Im listening.. ;)
Think about the first few rules of storing raws.....then reverse that lol...im not going any further on that one lol....but you would have a FIELD DAY with my knowledge haha (and for anyone reading this thinking about enforcing my NDA or trying to scare me....i still have some "stuff" on hand ;))
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should anyone be surprised thatLG was popped? I mean how they or their lawyer thought that their products were legal within the DSHEA 1994 law and subsequent laws is way out there....
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Think about the first few rules of storing raws.....then reverse that lol..
Outch :-X
While somewhat off-topic, I recall a goofy phone call from the MuscleTech official. I was eating a hamburger at McDonalds and this guy called about the MD Anator product review. He said that they dont want to disclose its ingredients (btw, the ingredient profile was taken from my MD article but they claimed it was developed by the UK scientist Paul Greenhaff). I was like "how the heck Im supposed to review your product if I dont have a clue what the hell it contains?!" Basically the guy was asking me to repeat all that marketing BS. Needless to say, I declined the offer. :) A couple of days later (Friday midnight; note the time zone difference) I got a call from Cara (a former assistant of Blechman) that I should email an apology (or something) because I publicly called this guy a retard or MT will pull their ads (their standard stunt). I was not able to use email because I was at home party, so I think Cara asked Musclemayhem moderator to remove my comment from their board.
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Outch :-X
While somewhat off-topic, I recall a goofy phone call from the MuscleTech official. I was eating a hamburger at McDonalds and this guy called about the MD Anator product review. He said that they dont want to disclose its ingredierts. I was like "how the heck Im supposed to review your product if I dont have a clue what the hell it contains?!" Basically this guys was asking me to repeat all that marketing BS. Needless to say, I declined the offer. :)
Noble. Refused to disclose ingredients lol. Well....maybe they dont want us to know what Cutler used to win the O!
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I was eating a hamburger at McDonalds and this guy called about the MD Anator product review. He said that they dont want to disclose its ingredients. I was like "how the heck Im supposed to review your product if I dont have a clue what the hell it contains?!" Basically the guy was asking me to repeat all that marketing BS. Needless to say, I declined the offer. :) A couple of days later (Friday midnight; note the time zone difference) I got a call from Cara (a former assistant of Blechman) that I should email an apology (or something) because I publicly called this guy a retard or MT will pull their ads (their standard stunt). I was not able to use email because I was at home party, so I think Cara asked Musclemayhem moderator to remove my comment from their board.
wow
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mannien why don't you do some research and admit anthony colpo was right ::)
you are doing your reputation as a science guy no good by denying metabolic ward studies that show calories are king when it comes to weight loss.
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mannien why don't you do some research and admit anthony colpo was right ::)
you are doing your reputation as a science guy no good by denying metabolic ward studies that show calories are king when it comes to weight loss.
This is completely off-topic but those metabolic ward studies were included in this meta-analysis:
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/83/2/260?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&author1=Krieger&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT
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ouch, that sucks.
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Shit that is hard core.
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http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/lgsciencescoldfusionexreview.html
LG Sciences Cold Fusion EX was the best NO product I ever tried other than NANOX9 by MuscleTech. I loved that stuff. Anyone know any additional details on it I should know about?
Are you saying a policy of federalism for a nation is a bad one?
Yes.....you're no longer a natty.... :-\
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well it happens with alcohol and alcohol comes from grain aswell
i have perfect skin eating meat and fruits
if i eat anything processed i get acne, i think my body can handle fructose from fruits but not the hard on the body sugars like grains wich have no fructose
any kind of acne is a sign you are consuming something wrong for the body
ah okay, yeah i don't get acne but i have pretty bad skin allergies from something i'm yet to single out, but i don't take any BB supps anyways
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im going down to gnc and getting their last bottles of methyl 1 d XL tomorrow !!! one for myself...the rest to sell on ebay once they are all gone !!
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http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/lgsciencescoldfusionexreview.html
LG Sciences Cold Fusion EX was the best NO product I ever tried other than NANOX9 by MuscleTech. I loved that stuff. Anyone know any additional details on it I should know about?
Are you saying a policy of federalism for a nation is a bad one?
for real>? im buyin up all that shit too
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im going down to gnc and getting their last bottles of methyl 1 d XL tomorrow !!! one for myself...the rest to sell on ebay once they are all gone !!
You're running a real gear now and you want to resort back to this garbage? Talk about taking steps backwards :-\
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You're running a real gear now and you want to resort back to this garbage? Talk about taking steps backwards :-\
busy your trippin
go read the thred that bill lewelyn posted in on the steroid board.
todays "prohormmones" are in fact steroids...and damn potent ones..i fact, mg for mg, certain ones are stronger than dbol(according to him)
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busy your trippin
go read the thred that bill lewelyn posted in on the steroid board.
todays "prohormmones" are in fact steroids...and damn potent ones..i fact, mg for mg, certain ones are stronger than dbol(according to him)
If you recall, I posted in that same thread and discussed this with him.
They are designer steroids, not real, human grade AAS and with a company like legal gear, you are getting a lot of extra garbage (contaminants). Never did Bill say they were better than the real deal...
But whatever, you are on this psycho mission anyway, so good luck kid! I think :-\
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hey even if i dont ened up taking the stuff, ill still make some money to buy some REAL goodies !! :D
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In response to recent action taken by the FDA, LG Sciences wishes to clarify that all of its products are completely legal and safe. The FDA's detainment is merely a preliminary step in determining compliance with food regulations. LG Sciences wishes to specifically note that no court has made any determination as to the correctness of FDA's allegations. Although LG Sciences feels that the temporary restraint of its product by the FDA is inappropriate, the company appreciates that the FDA wishes to protect the public.
Unfortunately, the Dietary Supplement Health Education Act (DSHEA) of 1994 is ambiguous and unclear in determining what substances are considered new dietary ingredients (NDI). An NDI requires data be submitted to the FDA regarding safety for human consumption prior to its introduction into the market. Due to a lack of a definitive list of approved dietary ingredients, the FDA mistakenly asserts that the products seized contain substances that are either not dietary ingredients, as defined in the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act or that the substances are NDI. However, the substances are not NDI because these ingredients are naturally occurring, with confirmed studies over 25 years ago, and have been on the market in competitors products for several years. Thus, the ingredients have empirically been shown to be safe to consumers.
Items deemed unapproved food additives by the FDA 1,4,6 etiocholan-dione? or commonly known as ATD or 1,4,6 Androstatriene3,17-dione. Additionally items alleged to require a new dietary ingredient status 4-etioallocholen-3,6,17-trione or better known by the trade name 6-OXO-4-androstenedione. LG Sciences looks forward to assisting the FDA in clarifying this matter and the prompt return of its inventory.
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