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Title: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 09, 2008, 01:42:38 PM
If your best friends asked you to accompany them on a 2 week vacation in the carribean, all expenses paid, you accept the offer but once you arrive at the vacation spot (unbeknownst to you) you find out it's a nudist colony and everyone is naked as a JayBird?

Would you assimilate and join in on the festivities?

Or would you stay clothed and not participate?


Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 09, 2008, 02:06:44 PM
If your best friends asked you to accompany them on a 2 week vacation in the carribean, all expenses paid, you accept the offer but once you arrive at the vacation spot (unbeknownst to you) you find out it's a nudist colony and everyone is naked as a JayBird?

Would you assimilate and join in on the festivities?

Or would you stay clothed and not participate?




I would join in. The water in the Carribean is very warm. So, there's hardly any shrinkage. :D
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: mbell on April 09, 2008, 02:50:45 PM
YIKES! I probably would keep my clothes on :-\
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: 24KT on April 10, 2008, 12:43:30 AM
Does whipping out the camera count as a viable choice?  ;D
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 10, 2008, 02:49:22 AM
Well, after I picked my jaw up off the floor and then gave my friend a smack on the back of the head...I would have to say I would leave my clothing on.  I have no problem with others and nudity, but I am not so comfortable in just my own skin around strangers.  :-\

I'm a bashful girl.  :)
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Butterbean on April 10, 2008, 06:25:02 AM


Or would you stay clothed



Stay clothed

I've been to a couple of nude beaches (we were surprised by the first one) but we all kept our suits on. 
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 10, 2008, 07:13:07 AM
Well, whole story here. My S.O. and I were in this situation and we decided to go with the flow! Yes our motivation was the all expenses paid accomodations but when we accepted the gift we had no idea that it was a nudists colony.


We really enjoyed the new found freedom in our skin. I think everyone should experience this at least once in their lives.

We did everything without clothes even Sunday morning worship services (Generic) but no stress or pressure by any means.

Very interesting vacation



Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 10, 2008, 07:36:10 AM
Well, whole story here. My S.O. and I were in this situation and we decided to go with the flow! Yes our motivation was the all expenses paid accomodations but when we accepted the gift we had no idea that it was a nudists colony.


We really enjoyed the new found freedom in our skin. I think everyone should experience this at least once in their lives.

We did everything without clothes even Sunday morning worship services (Generic) but no stress or pressure by any means.

Very interesting vacation




Soooooooo now you know what your best friends look like naked and they...you. 

I couldn't do it, lol.   I don't wanna know what my friends look like naked. ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 10, 2008, 07:54:54 AM
Soooooooo now you know what your best friends look like naked and they...you. 

I couldn't do it, lol.   I don't wanna know what my friends look like naked. ha ha ha ha

ok may be it's not something you would dwell on but I am sure you would not turn the other cheek (no pun intended)?

This couple has been put in the MDSB category a long time ago. We were more surprized that even knew about nudist beaches or would even participate, that was the shock factor.

Actually the entire experience was quite liberating.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 10, 2008, 08:08:42 AM
ok may be it's not something you would dwell on but I am sure you would not turn the other cheek (no pun intended)?

This couple has been put in the MDSB category a long time ago. We were more surprized that even knew about nudist beaches or would even participate, that was the shock factor.

Actually the entire experience was quite liberating.
What is MDSB?
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: ~flower~ on April 10, 2008, 11:23:23 AM
If your best friends asked you to accompany them on a 2 week vacation in the carribean, all expenses paid, you accept the offer but once you arrive at the vacation spot (unbeknownst to you) you find out it's a nudist colony and everyone is naked as a JayBird?

Would you assimilate and join in on the festivities?

Or would you stay clothed and not participate?





 I don't think I would consider them friends if they left out that detail in the invite.


   
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 10, 2008, 11:48:40 AM

 I don't think I would consider them friends if they left out that detail in the invite.


   
Yeah  >:(

I think they just wanted to see them naked and squirming.  ;D
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: ~flower~ on April 10, 2008, 11:53:53 AM
Yeah  >:(

I think they just wanted to see them naked and squirming.  ;D


  that is just odd to leave that out. 

  You said you were surprised that they even knew about this so it's not like you were aware of their lifestyle.

   Did you even comment or ask them why they didn't tell you?
 
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 10, 2008, 11:58:01 AM
What is MDSB?

All friends, relatives and co-workers go into the Mother, Daughter, Sister, Brother (MDSB) category which simply means they are off limits, no attaction whatsoever; Actually everyone is off limits because I am attached but you get the gist.

First time ever doing that and maybe the last lol
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 10, 2008, 12:07:18 PM
All friends, relatives and co-workers go into the Mother, Daughter, Sister, Brother (MDSB) category which simply means they are off limits, no attaction whatsoever; Actually everyone is off limits because I am attached but you get the gist.

First time ever doing that and maybe the last lol

Where's the "F"?
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: w8m8 on April 10, 2008, 02:20:37 PM
Where's the "F"?

Canada ...   well before he died  ::) 



  that is just odd to leave that out. 

  You said you were surprised that they even knew about this so it's not like you were aware of their lifestyle.

   Did you even comment or ask them why they didn't tell you?
 



my thoughts too  ??? 
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 10, 2008, 04:57:23 PM

  that is just odd to leave that out. 

  You said you were surprised that they even knew about this so it's not like you were aware of their lifestyle.

   Did you even comment or ask them why they didn't tell you?
 


I was surprized because I have never ever in the 15 years that I have known them talk about being nudists or even interested in that lifestyle. I later found out that they have been to this resort several times throughout our friendship.

I did ask why and I got an answer.

Short answer: He thought I would not go if I knew it was a nudists resort. He knew once I got there I would see that it was totally innocent.

It was very innocent (if you can stand being around folk in the buff), not a swinger haven at all. There were whole families there kids and pets included. They played volley ball, tennis even bingo in the buff. No one was staring.

Innocuous is the only word to discribe this resort.

The reason why I left out the "F", no one cares about fathers and the point is some folk are off limits, e.g. wives husbands in-laws etc. comprehende?   
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: calmus on April 10, 2008, 04:58:25 PM
YIKES! I probably would keep my clothes on :-\

Interesting response.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Princess L on April 10, 2008, 06:58:39 PM
If your best friends asked you to accompany them on a 2 week vacation in the carribean, all expenses paid, you accept the offer but once you arrive at the vacation spot (unbeknownst to you) you find out it's a nudist colony and everyone is naked as a JayBird?

Would you assimilate and join in on the festivities?

Or would you stay clothed and not participate?



I would not participate and I'm not sure what I would say to gracefully decline.

The only experience I've had with nudists (I've told this story before) was the first New Year's in college.

All throughout high school and early college there were several of us who hung out.  The core group was Kenny, me, Kathy, Tim and Tim.  One of the Tims parents were throwbacks and also nudists.  They all had grown up with Tim (through grade school; I was the newcomer) and it was just common knowledge and no big deal.   I on the other hand, thought it very weird and really didn’t understand the whole concept.   We rarely if ever saw his parents because they were either working or “camping” for the weekend.  This made for the perfect party house.  They always had “stash” lying around too.    :P

One year, New Years Eve,  a bunch of us met over at Tim’s to carpool downtown (about 30 miles).  After the midnight champagne toast we decided to go to a party back in our neck of the woods.  After a slow drive back out to the boonies (it was snowing and we were no doubt drunk) and arriving at Tims so we could each get our cars, Kathy and I had to pee.  The boys told us to just wait until we got to the other party because Tim’s parents were having a party.  Kathy and I were like “so what”, we just need to pee.  They insisted we wait or go outside, like them.  Like hell!  We begged.  We pleaded.  We said WE KNOW your parents are having a party. SO WHAT.  Finally, Kenny spelled it out for us.      ::)  Fine, everyone in the house is naked.  So what. 

At that point we didn’t care we just HAD TO PEE.  Imagine our surprise when his mother and father greeted us from the top of the stairs with nothing but a cocktail and party hat.   :o  We were so shocked we couldn’t look up.  Kenny took my hand and Tim took Kathy’s while we kept our eyes covered and led us to the bathroom.  I could see fat, old, naked people everywhere!  Wouldn’t ya know it, there was a wait at the bathroom door!  Hoping to wait for an opening and escape the sobering shock we just witnessed, I barged into Tim’s bedroom only to find an orgy going on.    :o   Kathy and I grabbed each other and hightailed it out of the house and peed outside.  I don’t recall if we ever made it to the other party.

Years later, at a high school reunion, I brought this event up.  Funny how Kathy and I have vivid memories of the evening and the boys have no recollection at all.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 10, 2008, 10:55:10 PM
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I would not participate and I'm not sure what I would say to gracefully decline.


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[color] The only experience I've had with nudists (I've told this story before) was the first New Year's in college.[/color] 
These were not exclusive nudists honey, they were swingers or wife swappers, let's not confuse the two.
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...I could see fat, old, naked people everywhere!   

Yes, we saw every body type at this resort (fit & fat folks  but they didn't care).
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...I barged into Tim’s bedroom only to find an orgy going on. :o  

Not one orgy took place while we were there (that we were aware of).   
Well, my situation was much different and not at all a swingers set but interesting experience you had there.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 11, 2008, 04:17:55 AM

The reason why I left out the "F", no one cares about fathers and the point is some folk are off limits, e.g. wives husbands in-laws etc. comprehende?   
Nope, still confused.  Was this a "hook up" kind of nudist event or just a nudist event?
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: w8m8 on April 11, 2008, 05:29:20 AM
Princess that was a great story  :D
I could nearly see you and your GF running to the door almost peeing yourselves.  :D


HM , I wouldn't have been real happy with my friends thinking I could " get into it " and not saying something about it before I arrived and saw some stuff I could live without looking at.

As for whether I'd go along with it all once there and lose my clothes for a few days ...

nah , I'm alright with a lot of things but somehow the idea of it being a "family" type thing gives me the ick feeling

JMO of course and I've nothing against anyone who does whatever they do like that but it's kinda callous ( I think ) to just "spring" that onto somebody


now if it was a place like in the movie " Eyes Wide Shut " .. my friends would be getting some of the best Christmas presents from now on if they took me there  8)

Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 11, 2008, 08:21:49 AM
Nope, still confused.  Was this a "hook up" kind of nudist event or just a nudist event?

Not a hook up at all and it was just a; what they like to call it,  "a Naturalists Getaway" Not even close to being an orgy.

Ok let me see if I can clarify this MDSB thing for you.

OK you and the rest that are referenced below may say this is BS but it true for me;

You Jaggy, Dee, Flower, Rip, XXXLinda and Stella are in my MDS category, you all have become like sisters to me and I couldn't think of you in any other way (No offense but no attraction at all) not because you are not atractive but because I respect you all as if you were my sisters.

Having said that, my friend and his wife are like a brother and sister to me and mine, so when we saw them in the nude we just saw them in the nude, no sneak a peeks, no intimate musings about one another, hence the categorization of "MDSB".

I liken the experience of seeing them naked to; seeing your kid, sybling or parent naked, nothing intimate there, nothing! We just saw our friends and we are closer because of it, hence the reason why I said it was quite liberating! Capeche?

Do you have friends that are that close to you where you can be that transparent with them and not be judged or they you?

Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: michael arvilla on April 11, 2008, 08:23:45 AM
jesus what an uptight bunch!!


just get naked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 11, 2008, 08:26:22 AM
Not a hook up at all and it was just a; what they like to call it,  "a Naturalists Getaway" Not even close to being an orgy.

Ok let me see if I can clarify this MDSB thing for you.

OK you and the rest that are referenced below may say this is BS but it true for me;

You Jaggy, Dee, Flower, Rip, XXXLinda and Stella are in my MDS category, you all have become like sisters to me and I couldn't think of you in any other way (No offense but no attraction at all) not because you are not atractive but because I respect you all as if you were my sisters.

Having said that, my friend and his wife are like a brother and sister to me and mine, so when we saw them in the nude we just saw them in the nude, no sneak a peeks, no intimate musings about one another, hence the categorization of "MDSB".

I liken the experience of seeing them naked to; seeing your kid, sybling or parent naked, nothing intimate there, nothing! We just saw our friends and we are closer because of it, hence the reason why I said it was quite liberating! Capeche?

Do you have friends that are that close to you where you can be that transparent with them and not be judged or they you?


Ok, I get that, but in the same sense...you (I mean that in the rhetorical way) wouldn't be thinking to yourself "damn I thought he was hung better than that", or "shit, I hope my wife ain't looking at that and sizing me up"  or "she's got a kick ass body...what I wouldn't do to that"  etc.

That is what I'd be afraid of.  :-\
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: The Squadfather on April 11, 2008, 08:46:19 AM
Not a hook up at all and it was just a; what they like to call it,  "a Naturalists Getaway" Not even close to being an orgy.

Ok let me see if I can clarify this MDSB thing for you.

OK you and the rest that are referenced below may say this is BS but it true for me;

You Jaggy, Dee, Flower, Rip, XXXLinda and Stella are in my MDS category, you all have become like sisters to me and I couldn't think of you in any other way (No offense but no attraction at all) not because you are not atractive but because I respect you all as if you were my sisters.

Having said that, my friend and his wife are like a brother and sister to me and mine, so when we saw them in the nude we just saw them in the nude, no sneak a peeks, no intimate musings about one another, hence the categorization of "MDSB".

I liken the experience of seeing them naked to; seeing your kid, sybling or parent naked, nothing intimate there, nothing! We just saw our friends and we are closer because of it, hence the reason why I said it was quite liberating! Capeche?

Do you have friends that are that close to you where you can be that transparent with them and not be judged or they you?


hahahahhahaa, oh brother.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 11, 2008, 08:54:01 AM
Ok, I get that, but in the same sense...you (I mean that in the rhetorical way) wouldn't be thinking to yourself "damn I thought he was hung better than that", or "shit, I hope my wife ain't looking at that and sizing me up"  or "she's got a kick ass body...what I wouldn't do to that"  etc.

That is what I'd be afraid of.  :-\
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"damn I thought he was hung better than that"
Well we got that out of the way in the showers at the gym anyway we were both flacid so who can tell?
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"shit, I hope my wife ain't looking at that and sizing me up"
Well you never really know what's going on in a woman's mind anyway so my worrying would be futile.
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"she's got a kick ass body...what I wouldn't do to that"

Like I said I have a block on that I can't see his wife that way, sounds like BS I know but that's the truth.

BTW I have learned to think with the brain above my shoulders, took a while but I am finally there.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 11, 2008, 08:56:36 AM
hahahahhahaa, oh brother.

What? I am serious here Squad!
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: The Squadfather on April 11, 2008, 09:01:53 AM
What? I am serious here Squad!
you're trying too hard.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 11, 2008, 09:09:11 AM
you're trying too hard.

At what?
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: 24KT on April 11, 2008, 09:58:45 PM
I was surprized because I have never ever in the 15 years that I have known them talk about being nudists or even interested in that lifestyle. I later found out that they have been to this resort several times throughout our friendship.

I did ask why and I got an answer.

Short answer: He thought I would not go if I knew it was a nudists resort. He knew once I got there I would see that it was totally innocent.

It was very innocent (if you can stand being around folk in the buff), not a swinger haven at all. There were whole families there kids and pets included. They played volley ball, tennis even bingo in the buff. No one was staring.

Innocuous is the only word to discribe this resort.

The reason why I left out the "F", no one cares about fathers and the point is some folk are off limits, e.g. wives husbands in-laws etc. comprehende?   

Wow HM,

I gotta tell you... that sets off some serious red flags for me. While his intentions may have been good, he sounds to me like someone NOT to be trusted. If that were me I would be furious at such an obvious omission made with a manipulative intent. I'm glad you enjoyed the experience, ...but you were manipulated into it. If you had said 'NO' because of your preconceived prejudices then it would have been your loss... and rightly so. I don't believe ANYONE has the right to make someone do something against their wishes... even if it is something they would enjoy.

If someone's own prejudices and biases cause them to miss out... so be it. I don't think anyone has the right to trick or manipulate someone into doing something or making a choice they otherwise wouldn't make if they had all the facts, ...regardless of how benign the result... it's still manipulation, deception, ...and an abuse of trust. That's just plain wrong. just my opinion.

If they had, through their ease & comfort with the lifestyle, simply 'forgot' to mention it, ...that's one thing,
...but their's was a deliberate omission with the intent to deceive and manipulate (albeit not maliciously), ...it was still deception, and a theft of your own personal power & autonomy... a theft of your freedom to make choices for yourself. If that were me, I'd be giving them a good piece of my mind, ...and re-evaluating the level of trust they enjoyed in my life! Friends don't purposely deceive friends, or take away their freedoms, ...friends instead allow you to make educated empowered decisions based on truth, not lies, manipulation, or deception.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: w8m8 on April 12, 2008, 11:52:37 AM
good post jag  :)
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 12, 2008, 02:29:07 PM
Wow HM,

I gotta tell you... that sets off some serious red flags for me. While his intentions may have been good, he sounds to me like someone NOT to be trusted. If that were me I would be furious at such an obvious omission made with a manipulative intent. I'm glad you enjoyed the experience, ...but you were manipulated into it. If you had said 'NO' because of your preconceived prejudices then it would have been your loss... and rightly so. I don't believe ANYONE has the right to make someone do something against their wishes... even if it is something they would enjoy.

If someone's own prejudices and biases cause them to miss out... so be it. I don't think anyone has the right to trick or manipulate someone into doing something or making a choice they otherwise wouldn't make if they had all the facts, ...regardless of how benign the result... it's still manipulation, deception, ...and an abuse of trust. That's just plain wrong. just my opinion.

If they had, through their ease & comfort with the lifestyle, simply 'forgot' to mention it, ...that's one thing,
...but their's was a deliberate omission with the intent to deceive and manipulate (albeit not maliciously), ...it was still deception, and a theft of your own personal power & autonomy... a theft of your freedom to make choices for yourself. If that were me, I'd be giving them a good piece of my mind, ...and re-evaluating the level of trust they enjoyed in my life! Friends don't purposely deceive friends, or take away their freedoms, ...friends instead allow you to make educated empowered decisions based on truth, not lies, manipulation, or deception.

Jaggy,

Good post but I can't kick him (My long time friend and Old Navy buddy) to the curb for this
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deliberate omission
of the details of the vacation resort and I understand why he did what he did. Also and FYI his wife was slightly pissed because she didn't know we (My S.O. and I) didn't know all the details either! Yes my S.O. was pissed at first but because the resort was not a swinger setting she warmed up fairly quickly. (She is so open minded) I love that about her!

Anyway Jaggy I respect your opinion but I guess this is a GUY thing and we see it differently.

I don't think a guy would call this malicious or manipulative, deceptive yes but I think a guy would understand why his friend would do this.
I am sssuming you would be pissed beyond response and would probably leave the resort instead of participating?

Anyway good post and I respect your opinion.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: 24KT on April 12, 2008, 10:23:34 PM
Jaggy,

Good post but I can't kick him (My long time friend and Old Navy buddy) to the curb for this  of the details of the vacation resort and I understand why he did what he did. Also and FYI his wife was slightly pissed because she didn't know we (My S.O. and I) didn't know all the details either! Yes my S.O. was pissed at first but because the resort was not a swinger setting she warmed up fairly quickly. (She is so open minded) I love that about her!

Anyway Jaggy I respect your opinion but I guess this is a GUY thing and we see it differently.

I don't think a guy would call this malicious or manipulative, deceptive yes but I think a guy would understand why his friend would do this.
I am sssuming you would be pissed beyond response and would probably leave the resort instead of participating?

Anyway good post and I respect your opinion.


I'm not suggesting you kick him to the curb, ...but understand you're dealing with someone willing to impose HIS will, on you over your objections. People like that don't enjoy trust in my life. I may smile at them, share a beer with them, party with them, and care about them, ...but I will never trust anyone who would disrespect me that way.

I too understand why he did what he did, ...but just because I understand it, doesn't mean I condone his MO.

No I probably wouldn't have packed my bags and left, ...but I sure would've set their head straight about the boundaries of our friendship, ...and deliberate deception & manipulation would NOT fall within them. You can take it lightly if you want, ...but any attempt to justify it is the equivalent of a rapist trying to justify his crime by saying "I forced them because if I had asked up front, I knew they would have said NO." Informed consent is the right of any adult, ...and deliberately taking that right away from someone is not what friends do to friends. Overlook it if you want, ...but don't be surprised if you end up getting burned by this person at some point in the future. There is a moral disconnect that is bound to re-appear. The only question is the degree of severity when it does.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 14, 2008, 06:11:10 AM
I just can't even fathom being in that predicament.
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: w8m8 on April 14, 2008, 08:14:36 AM
I just can't even fathom being in that predicament.

I'm with you  :-\
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 14, 2008, 08:39:55 AM
I'm with you  :-\
Ok!  Where do ya wanna go?  :D
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: w8m8 on April 14, 2008, 08:42:50 AM
Ok!  Where do ya wanna go?  :D

That road trip is tempting , but don't worry I would tell you all the details if we go somewhere and I planned it  ;D
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: YoungBlood on April 14, 2008, 08:44:52 AM
I'm with you  :-\

Ok!  Where do ya wanna go?  :D

That road trip is tempting , but don't worry I would tell you all the details if we go somewhere and I planned it  ;D

:o :o :o

Am I invited? ;D ::) ;D
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 14, 2008, 08:45:19 AM
I just can't even fathom being in that predicament.


Maybe a Poll would better answer this question. Who can set that up or do you folks even think it's worth a poll?

It seems like the women here would be more offended than the guys (based on responses) why is that?

My S.O. was not thrilled either at first but went along with it and seemed to enjoy the vacation spot (clothed)? ;D After the first day we remained clothed and she spoke nothing much about it afterward and we enjoyed the seclusion and tranquility of the private resort. She's that type of person (experience, lessons learned and move on).

She has not requested to disentegrate our friendship, she basically said "this (the nude beach thing) was not something she would be interested in doing again".

HM tenderly IC
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Hustle Man on April 14, 2008, 08:49:39 AM
Laura Lee:
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I just can't even fathom being in that predicament.
w8m8:
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I'm with you 
Laura Lee:
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Ok!  Where do ya wanna go? 

w8m8:
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That road trip is tempting , but don't worry I would tell you all the details if we go somewhere and I planned it
 

OMG LMAO! You crazy kids! :P


Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: w8m8 on April 15, 2008, 04:55:49 AM
:o :o :o

Am I invited? ;D ::) ;D

 ;D :-*





HM tenderly IC

awwww  ;)




LMAO @ unbeknownst in the poll
Title: Re: What would you do...
Post by: Laura Lee on April 15, 2008, 05:04:02 AM
;D :-*


awwww  ;)


LMAO @ unbeknownst in the poll
unbeknownst to you  :D