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If your best friends asked you to accompany them on a 2 week vacation in the carribean, all expenses paid, you accept the offer but once you arrive at the vacation spot (unbeknownst to you) you find out it's a nudist colony and everyone is naked as a JayB

Assimilate and join in on the festivities?
2 (50%)
Stay clothed and not participate?
0 (0%)
Stay but not attend anything involving butt naked people?
0 (0%)
Appologize to your friend for the "miscommunitation" and leave?
1 (25%)
Freak out and on your friend for even planning such a trip without consulting you as to the "festivities"?
1 (25%)

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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2008, 08:46:19 AM »
Not a hook up at all and it was just a; what they like to call it,  "a Naturalists Getaway" Not even close to being an orgy.

Ok let me see if I can clarify this MDSB thing for you.

OK you and the rest that are referenced below may say this is BS but it true for me;

You Jaggy, Dee, Flower, Rip, XXXLinda and Stella are in my MDS category, you all have become like sisters to me and I couldn't think of you in any other way (No offense but no attraction at all) not because you are not atractive but because I respect you all as if you were my sisters.

Having said that, my friend and his wife are like a brother and sister to me and mine, so when we saw them in the nude we just saw them in the nude, no sneak a peeks, no intimate musings about one another, hence the categorization of "MDSB".

I liken the experience of seeing them naked to; seeing your kid, sybling or parent naked, nothing intimate there, nothing! We just saw our friends and we are closer because of it, hence the reason why I said it was quite liberating! Capeche?

Do you have friends that are that close to you where you can be that transparent with them and not be judged or they you?


hahahahhahaa, oh brother.

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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2008, 08:54:01 AM »
Ok, I get that, but in the same sense...you (I mean that in the rhetorical way) wouldn't be thinking to yourself "damn I thought he was hung better than that", or "shit, I hope my wife ain't looking at that and sizing me up"  or "she's got a kick ass body...what I wouldn't do to that"  etc.

That is what I'd be afraid of.  :-\
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"damn I thought he was hung better than that"
Well we got that out of the way in the showers at the gym anyway we were both flacid so who can tell?
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"shit, I hope my wife ain't looking at that and sizing me up"
Well you never really know what's going on in a woman's mind anyway so my worrying would be futile.
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"she's got a kick ass body...what I wouldn't do to that"

Like I said I have a block on that I can't see his wife that way, sounds like BS I know but that's the truth.

BTW I have learned to think with the brain above my shoulders, took a while but I am finally there.
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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2008, 08:56:36 AM »
hahahahhahaa, oh brother.

What? I am serious here Squad!
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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2008, 09:01:53 AM »
What? I am serious here Squad!
you're trying too hard.

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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2008, 09:09:11 AM »
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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2008, 09:58:45 PM »
I was surprized because I have never ever in the 15 years that I have known them talk about being nudists or even interested in that lifestyle. I later found out that they have been to this resort several times throughout our friendship.

I did ask why and I got an answer.

Short answer: He thought I would not go if I knew it was a nudists resort. He knew once I got there I would see that it was totally innocent.

It was very innocent (if you can stand being around folk in the buff), not a swinger haven at all. There were whole families there kids and pets included. They played volley ball, tennis even bingo in the buff. No one was staring.

Innocuous is the only word to discribe this resort.

The reason why I left out the "F", no one cares about fathers and the point is some folk are off limits, e.g. wives husbands in-laws etc. comprehende?   

Wow HM,

I gotta tell you... that sets off some serious red flags for me. While his intentions may have been good, he sounds to me like someone NOT to be trusted. If that were me I would be furious at such an obvious omission made with a manipulative intent. I'm glad you enjoyed the experience, ...but you were manipulated into it. If you had said 'NO' because of your preconceived prejudices then it would have been your loss... and rightly so. I don't believe ANYONE has the right to make someone do something against their wishes... even if it is something they would enjoy.

If someone's own prejudices and biases cause them to miss out... so be it. I don't think anyone has the right to trick or manipulate someone into doing something or making a choice they otherwise wouldn't make if they had all the facts, ...regardless of how benign the result... it's still manipulation, deception, ...and an abuse of trust. That's just plain wrong. just my opinion.

If they had, through their ease & comfort with the lifestyle, simply 'forgot' to mention it, ...that's one thing,
...but their's was a deliberate omission with the intent to deceive and manipulate (albeit not maliciously), ...it was still deception, and a theft of your own personal power & autonomy... a theft of your freedom to make choices for yourself. If that were me, I'd be giving them a good piece of my mind, ...and re-evaluating the level of trust they enjoyed in my life! Friends don't purposely deceive friends, or take away their freedoms, ...friends instead allow you to make educated empowered decisions based on truth, not lies, manipulation, or deception.
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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2008, 11:52:37 AM »
good post jag  :)

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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2008, 02:29:07 PM »
Wow HM,

I gotta tell you... that sets off some serious red flags for me. While his intentions may have been good, he sounds to me like someone NOT to be trusted. If that were me I would be furious at such an obvious omission made with a manipulative intent. I'm glad you enjoyed the experience, ...but you were manipulated into it. If you had said 'NO' because of your preconceived prejudices then it would have been your loss... and rightly so. I don't believe ANYONE has the right to make someone do something against their wishes... even if it is something they would enjoy.

If someone's own prejudices and biases cause them to miss out... so be it. I don't think anyone has the right to trick or manipulate someone into doing something or making a choice they otherwise wouldn't make if they had all the facts, ...regardless of how benign the result... it's still manipulation, deception, ...and an abuse of trust. That's just plain wrong. just my opinion.

If they had, through their ease & comfort with the lifestyle, simply 'forgot' to mention it, ...that's one thing,
...but their's was a deliberate omission with the intent to deceive and manipulate (albeit not maliciously), ...it was still deception, and a theft of your own personal power & autonomy... a theft of your freedom to make choices for yourself. If that were me, I'd be giving them a good piece of my mind, ...and re-evaluating the level of trust they enjoyed in my life! Friends don't purposely deceive friends, or take away their freedoms, ...friends instead allow you to make educated empowered decisions based on truth, not lies, manipulation, or deception.

Jaggy,

Good post but I can't kick him (My long time friend and Old Navy buddy) to the curb for this
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deliberate omission
of the details of the vacation resort and I understand why he did what he did. Also and FYI his wife was slightly pissed because she didn't know we (My S.O. and I) didn't know all the details either! Yes my S.O. was pissed at first but because the resort was not a swinger setting she warmed up fairly quickly. (She is so open minded) I love that about her!

Anyway Jaggy I respect your opinion but I guess this is a GUY thing and we see it differently.

I don't think a guy would call this malicious or manipulative, deceptive yes but I think a guy would understand why his friend would do this.
I am sssuming you would be pissed beyond response and would probably leave the resort instead of participating?

Anyway good post and I respect your opinion.
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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2008, 10:23:34 PM »
Jaggy,

Good post but I can't kick him (My long time friend and Old Navy buddy) to the curb for this  of the details of the vacation resort and I understand why he did what he did. Also and FYI his wife was slightly pissed because she didn't know we (My S.O. and I) didn't know all the details either! Yes my S.O. was pissed at first but because the resort was not a swinger setting she warmed up fairly quickly. (She is so open minded) I love that about her!

Anyway Jaggy I respect your opinion but I guess this is a GUY thing and we see it differently.

I don't think a guy would call this malicious or manipulative, deceptive yes but I think a guy would understand why his friend would do this.
I am sssuming you would be pissed beyond response and would probably leave the resort instead of participating?

Anyway good post and I respect your opinion.


I'm not suggesting you kick him to the curb, ...but understand you're dealing with someone willing to impose HIS will, on you over your objections. People like that don't enjoy trust in my life. I may smile at them, share a beer with them, party with them, and care about them, ...but I will never trust anyone who would disrespect me that way.

I too understand why he did what he did, ...but just because I understand it, doesn't mean I condone his MO.

No I probably wouldn't have packed my bags and left, ...but I sure would've set their head straight about the boundaries of our friendship, ...and deliberate deception & manipulation would NOT fall within them. You can take it lightly if you want, ...but any attempt to justify it is the equivalent of a rapist trying to justify his crime by saying "I forced them because if I had asked up front, I knew they would have said NO." Informed consent is the right of any adult, ...and deliberately taking that right away from someone is not what friends do to friends. Overlook it if you want, ...but don't be surprised if you end up getting burned by this person at some point in the future. There is a moral disconnect that is bound to re-appear. The only question is the degree of severity when it does.
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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2008, 06:11:10 AM »
I just can't even fathom being in that predicament.
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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2008, 08:14:36 AM »
I just can't even fathom being in that predicament.

I'm with you  :-\

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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2008, 08:39:55 AM »
I'm with you  :-\
Ok!  Where do ya wanna go?  :D
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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2008, 08:42:50 AM »
Ok!  Where do ya wanna go?  :D

That road trip is tempting , but don't worry I would tell you all the details if we go somewhere and I planned it  ;D

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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2008, 08:44:52 AM »
I'm with you  :-\

Ok!  Where do ya wanna go?  :D

That road trip is tempting , but don't worry I would tell you all the details if we go somewhere and I planned it  ;D

:o :o :o

Am I invited? ;D ::) ;D

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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2008, 08:45:19 AM »
I just can't even fathom being in that predicament.


Maybe a Poll would better answer this question. Who can set that up or do you folks even think it's worth a poll?

It seems like the women here would be more offended than the guys (based on responses) why is that?

My S.O. was not thrilled either at first but went along with it and seemed to enjoy the vacation spot (clothed)? ;D After the first day we remained clothed and she spoke nothing much about it afterward and we enjoyed the seclusion and tranquility of the private resort. She's that type of person (experience, lessons learned and move on).

She has not requested to disentegrate our friendship, she basically said "this (the nude beach thing) was not something she would be interested in doing again".

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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2008, 08:49:39 AM »
Laura Lee:
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I just can't even fathom being in that predicament.
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I'm with you 
Laura Lee:
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Ok!  Where do ya wanna go? 

w8m8:
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That road trip is tempting , but don't worry I would tell you all the details if we go somewhere and I planned it
 

OMG LMAO! You crazy kids! :P


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Re: What would you do...
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2008, 04:55:49 AM »
:o :o :o

Am I invited? ;D ::) ;D

 ;D :-*





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awwww  ;)




LMAO @ unbeknownst in the poll

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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2008, 05:04:02 AM »
;D :-*


awwww  ;)


LMAO @ unbeknownst in the poll
unbeknownst to you  :D
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