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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sami The Black-smith on May 06, 2008, 12:32:03 PM
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i did my guest posing in QATAR 3 days ago and i was looking good at the room befo i head to the stage.. but after applying the DREAM TAN i looked like Sh-- :-\
look at the pic befor going to the stage 1hr at my room with out DREAM TAN
and the other pics after applying the DREAM TAN... look what happened..?! even thu my Trainer ALI AMINI told me dont use it from the first place, thought to give it a try at a guest posing spot so i know what works for me for my coming shows.... :)
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I SWEAR that Dream Tan hides your cuts. 2-3 coats of Pro Tan work a lot better, IMO
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in my opinion dream tan actually looks better on certain guys
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I SWEAR that Dream Tan hides your cuts. 2-3 coats of Pro Tan work a lot better, IMO
Totally agree. Dream Tan smooths people out like nothing else.
I was at a show this weekend where bodybuilders were melting all over the stage from Dream Tan, and there were guys that you knew were shredded, but you couldn't see a single striation on them. Dream Tan has negatively affected placings for so many competitors...I strongly recommend people to stay away from it.
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I SWEAR that Dream Tan hides your cuts. 2-3 coats of Pro Tan work a lot better, IMO
People use it a lot in montreal, if applyed correctly I think it looks great and doesn't hide cuts
(http://www.fcpaq.com/competitions/2007/provincial/numeros_uns/5974-117.jpg)
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ive seeen pics of asian contests where the guys look fantastic in dream tan. makes em look like statues
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I guess now we know what goodrum uses to showcase that 'munzer' like conditioning of his..
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ive seeen pics of asian contests where the guys look fantastic in dream tan. makes em look like statues
the thing is that dream tan is so thick that you only have to put a tiny tiny bit on the skin and rub is over the largest region possible
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It can be "okay" if it's applied as a very thin top coat over a lot of Pro Tan or some other color that sinks into the skin. The worst thing a competitor can do IMO is rely only on Dream Tan for color. It will never get you dark enough unless you get it on really thick, and it doesn't absorb into the skin, so putting it on thick is just a recipe for melting on stage.
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You look darker in the first pic..without the tan applied. Some guys look better dry...like Cutler for example.
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First of all does anyone know who came up with dream-tan? first name starts with M...........it was in early 90's ........................ .....
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the thing is that dream tan is so thick that you only have to put a tiny tiny bit on the skin and rub is over the largest region possible
oh i c..
asians are smart LOL thats probably why they get it right
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Yes.
You foreign guys have gotta lay off that stuff...makes you look like that robot from lost in Space...doesn't the sun shine in Bosnia?
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Dream Tan is banned at some contests in the UK - the competitors have to use ProTan instead which is markedly better. I'm not sure why it's banned though - I just read it somewhere - I think it depends on the federation or the actual location.
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Dream Tan is banned at some contests in the UK - the competitors have to use ProTan instead which is markedly better. I'm not sure why it's banned though - I just read it somewhere - I think it depends on the federation or the actual location.
Because it gets on everything at the venue and it's a bitch to clean up.
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Because it gets on everything at the venue and it's a bitch to clean up.
Ah yes, I thought it was something like that - I've actually seen venues that allow it but to compensate they line the walls in the changing areas with polythene.
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i did my guest posing in QATAR 3 days ago and i was looking good at the room befo i head to the stage.. but after applying the DREAM TAN i looked like Sh-- :-\
look at the pic befor going to the stage 1hr at my room with out DREAM TAN
and the other pics after applying the DREAM TAN... look what happened..?! even thu my Trainer ALI AMINI told me dont use it from the first place, thought to give it a try at a guest posing spot so i know what works for me for my coming shows.... :)
Dream Tan is the only thing I sell in my shop and its the best way to look like a million bucks onstage. The person who applied it was a complete idiot and didn't know what he was doing.
Here's the best way to use Dream Tan.
1. Put a few drops of mineral oil in the Dream Tan and mix it good. This gives you a much better sheen and keeps it thin so it doesn't cover up your definition
2. The morning of the event, put on the Dream Tan liberally...just slab it on, bath in it, etc.
3. Put on a sweatshirt and sweatpants. Don't use any good ones as they are going to be ruined and go on with your day. This allows the Dream Tan to soak into the skin good and blend nicely
4. One hour before the event simply take off the sweats and have someone touch it up with more Dream Tan.
That's it.
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Expert to the rescue!! ;D
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Expert to the rescue!! ;D
Vince's dream tan ,before few drops of mineral oil.
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Vince's dream tan ,before few drops of mineral oil.
Looks like a hybrid of Sharma/Allah/Nasser
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I SWEAR that Dream Tan hides your cuts. 2-3 coats of Pro Tan work a lot better, IMO
I'm still waiting for you to tell me when and where Haney guestposed in 1992?? I don' have all day either. >:(
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sami were you using the red/bronze or the brown? After seeing countless competitors on stage they seem to prefer that color. It helps if you pre-mix the oil into and let it sit for a bit before applying it.
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Dreamtan is the worst shit in the world to use for a show...guaranteed to cover up any definition/ I actually had a guy arguing with me some time ago that it was soooooooo god that his buddy used it to cover up his tatoos...couldn't even se them..!LOL
Nothing like a pasty, dull hue to make you look your softest on stage.
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Vince's dream tan ,before few drops of mineral oil.
vince i bet you sell alot of shit you use
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Chick, I agree, but then why in the world do these guys continue to use it? I tell all of our competitors its in theiur best interests to avoid the stuff, but it is all laid upon deaf ears
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As a member of the international bodybuilding community, I am ashamed and embarrassed by our insistence upon using it. I really am - looks awful 99% of the time.
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Ashamed and embarrassed?
Well, I wouldn't go THAT far....
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Chick, I agree, but then why in the world do these guys continue to use it? I tell all of our competitors its in theiur best interests to avoid the stuff, but it is all laid upon deaf ears
If they were smart...all they would have to do is take notice that NO sucessful pro uses it....ever.
Why do they do HALF the things they do?
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Dreamtan is the worst shit in the world to use for a show...guaranteed to cover up any definition/ I actually had a guy arguing with me some time ago that it was soooooooo god that his buddy used it to cover up his tatoos...couldn't even se them..!LOL
Nothing like a pasty, dull hue to make you look your softest on stage.
I have to disagree with you. Dream Tan applied correctly can show more definition than Pro-Tan. Its just that too many people have the idea that you can apply it 1 hour before an event without doing anything else and they usually end up putting it on too thick.
Its more to do with inexperience with the product in the US as most contests here forbid it.
The best thing to do is to call the promoter first anyway to check all the details of the show not just for tan products but for everything
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I have to disagree with you. Dream Tan applied correctly can show more definition than Pro-Tan. Its just that too many people have the idea that you can apply it 1 hour before an event without doing anything else and they usually end up putting it on too thick.
Its more to do with inexperience with the product in the US as most contests here forbid it.
The best thing to do is to call the promoter first anyway to check all the details of the show not just for tan products but for everything
;D
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I have to disagree with you. Dream Tan applied correctly can show more definition than Pro-Tan. Its just that too many people have the idea that you can apply it 1 hour before an event without doing anything else and they usually end up putting it on too thick.
Its more to do with inexperience with the product in the US as most contests here forbid it.
The best thing to do is to call the promoter first anyway to check all the details of the show not just for tan products but for everything
Being that Protan is alcohol based...nothing that applies like a paste and has a pastel golden hue can do anything but make you look smoother and softer...just a matter of the wayb the light bounce of of reflective surfaces...doesn't absorb.
Like I said...there's a reason the pro's don't use it
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I have to disagree with you. Dream Tan applied correctly can show more definition than Pro-Tan. Its just that too many people have the idea that you can apply it 1 hour before an event without doing anything else and they usually end up putting it on too thick.
Its more to do with inexperience with the product in the US as most contests here forbid it.
The best thing to do is to call the promoter first anyway to check all the details of the show not just for tan products but for everything
vince, pics of you on stage look like you smeared yourself with mud. Were you trying to hide from Predator?
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vince, pics of you on stage look like you smeared yourself with mud. Were you trying to hide from Predator?
I use Hawaii Tropic Dark Tanning Oil for shows.
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I use Hawaii Tropic Dark Tanning Oil for shows.
Also not a good idea in the future...too thick. Will make you look smoother than whatever condition you are in. Posing oil is much lighter and will allow you to sweat through it...
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Dream tan is a make-up whereas Pro Tan is a tint.
The difference is that Dream tan sits on the skin (as all other make-ups) and Pro Tan is soaked up by the skin and thus doesn't sit on it.
For that reason, Dream tan can hide cuts. If it is applied too thick, even slightly, it will reduce separation by basically ''filling the gaps'' between the muscles.
It can be used effectively but it has to be applied very thin; even the slightest excess will blur definition. Plus, the fact that it sits on the skin can create the illusion of water retention.
As Stavios mentionned, it works better on some guys than others. The only guys it works well with are those who have super deep separations (e.g. Flex Wheeler at his peak... tremendously round and separated muscle bellies) but even then it can hide definition if abused.
A lot of guys like it because contrary to Pro Tan, it washes right off (since it doesn't penetrate the skin). And for some reasons, the color it provides is very popular in Europe.
But there is no doubt that it can reduce the look of a physique.
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Also not a good idea in the future...too thick. Will make you look smoother than whatever condition you are in. Posing oil is much lighter and will allow you to sweat through it...
That explains a few things. I was going by the instructions in Perfect Posing. I also noticed in your World Class Physique DVD that you cheat when you're doing your side relaxed poses. I tried it and although it makes the waist much leaner, it hurts like hell to do it
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vince, pics of you on stage look like you smeared yourself with mud. Were you trying to hide from Predator?
Bwahahaha. Post of the day! Made me laugh out loud. Kudos. :)
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vince, pics of you on stage look like you smeared yourself with mud. Were you trying to hide from Predator?
Kegdrainer, until you step onstage and actually compete you have no idea what you are talking about
I learned how to pose from the Perfect Posing instructional tapes which I followed to a T including the use of Hawaii Tropic Tanning Oil. Apparantly Chick says its too thick and from the night show I did, I had way too much glare so I have to agree with him on that.
I'll have to reconsider what I use but as far as Dream Tan is concerned, I feel if applied on correctly and very thinly instead of doing a rush job, it can make you look awesome. A lot of people buy it from my store but mostly international.
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In the 80's, I used this combination:
Tea
Baby oil
PPT hair dye-brown color...not made anymore
Mixed that together, hit the tanning bed
Finished with a coating of a cosmetic called 'Indian Earth' powder (do not think its made anymore).
I was rarely the best bb at the 60 shows I was in...but I ALWAYS had the best tan.
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since you know jack shit about me i will let that slide. i have been involved in bodybuilding promotions and shows for the last 8 years. Your competitive record is nothing to clap about. Your best pics on stage look like a prank, like you had some vendetta against the promoter and you got up there to embarass the organization intentionally. Watching some posing tapes? Please...you should be working with someone who has won some competitions, and maybe knows how to critique your form as you practice in front of a mirror. This is how you get better at posing.
Why don't you try going to the gym and lifting some weights before you talk shit.
Kegdrainer, until you step onstage and actually compete you have no idea what you are talking about
I learned how to pose from the Perfect Posing instructional tapes which I followed to a T including the use of Hawaii Tropic Tanning Oil. Apparantly Chick says its too thick and from the night show I did, I had way too much glare so I have to agree with him on that.
I'll have to reconsider what I use but as far as Dream Tan is concerned, I feel if applied on correctly and very thinly instead of doing a rush job, it can make you look awesome. A lot of people buy it from my store but mostly international.
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Also not a good idea in the future...too thick. Will make you look smoother than whatever condition you are in.
I think Vince's razor sharp condition proves you WRONG. HA!!
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Sami whatever you don't use what Goodrum uses. I think it is called Dream Shit.
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I think Vince's razor sharp condition proves you WRONG. HA!!
Has Vince ever annexed a show or taken home a physique award, such as a trophy?
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Dreamtan is the worst shit in the world to use for a show...guaranteed to cover up any definition/ I actually had a guy arguing with me some time ago that it was soooooooo god that his buddy used it to cover up his tatoos...couldn't even se them..!LOL
Nothing like a pasty, dull hue to make you look your softest on stage.
bob, what is your personal favorite?
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That explains a few things. I was going by the instructions in Perfect Posing. I also noticed in your World Class Physique DVD that you cheat when you're doing your side relaxed poses. I tried it and although it makes the waist much leaner, it hurts like hell to do it
Vince how about training with weights. Have you tried that. No oil or anything will make you look any better. Seriously, are you fucking blind?? The absolute last thing on the list (of many) you should worry about is what you put on that covering around your fat. Try training. You have NO muscle. My down pillows have more muscle than you. Hope this helps.
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ive seeen pics of asian contests where the guys look fantastic in dream tan. makes em look like statues
Say that to your parents at dinner. I dare you.
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There's Dream Tan #1 and Dream tan #2.In most parts of Asia dream tan #1 is banned because it gives a strange golden/greenish tint under the lights.Dream tan #2 on the other hand gives a more natural tanned colour.But both if over applied will hide all your definition as it is patroleum based and will sit on the surface of the skin.
There is ano brand that i can't recall which is Australian made and used a lot by Lee Priest.Will try looking up the name and website for it.Fabulous stuff and doesn't blur you out!
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I SWEAR that Dream Tan hides your cuts. 2-3 coats of Pro Tan work a lot better, IMO
2-3 coats? must be nice- i take you are a darker skinned guy?
i usually end up using 2 bottles and then some. i'll brush the first one or two coats on for the base. spray it the rest of the way. no shower between coating days- i find i lose too much of it. maybe some PAM backstage the morning of.
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THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE INFOOOOOOOO
BOB: thanks for showing up ;)
TERRY( PORKY) : you wrong in both DREAM TAN #1 and #2 :-*
VINCE G.: DO u know what u r talkin about? OR what WE are talkin about :-\
i always use SUN BATH once a week for about 4 weeks and then apply 2 COAT of PRO TAN 1 night befor the show and THATS IT... but lots of guys kept telling me DREAM TAN will make u look even BETTER, so thought to use it during the coming guest posing.....and EVEN THE VAINS are GONE :-[
and most of u were right... its just MAKES HELL OF MISS!! but PRO TAN u can take a shawer after the COATs dry and thats it, it will become just like ur skin and all what u need back stage PAM spray oil or BABY OIL...
i respect other point of views BUT this is what DIDNT WORK with me and thought to share it with u guys to HELP OTHERS...
ALL THESE VAINS GONE, LINE FADES AWAY.. like a magic ::)
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SAMI: You know i'm right ;D :P....anyways the colouring i was talking of earlier can be bought from http://www.pke.com.au. Check it out ;)
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THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE INFOOOOOOOO
BOB: thanks for showing up ;)
TERRY( PORKY) : you wrong in both DREAM TAN #1 and #2 :-*
VINCE G.: DO u know what u r talkin about? OR what WE are talkin about :-\
i always use SUN BATH once a week for about 4 weeks and then apply 2 COAT of PRO TAN 1 night befor the show and THATS IT... but lots of guys kept telling me DREAM TAN will make u look even BETTER, so thought to use it during the coming guest posing.....and EVEN THE VAINS are GONE :-[
and most of u were right... its just MAKES HELL OF MISS!! but PRO TAN u can take a shawer after the COATs dry and thats it, it will become just like ur skin and all what u need back stage PAM spray oil or BABY OIL...
i respect other point of views BUT this is what DIDNT WORK with me and thought to share it with u guys to HEPL OTHERS...
ALL THESE VAINS GONE, LINE FADES AWAY.. like a magic ::)
Looking awesome sami....ifbb here the black smith comes
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chick or vince on contest prep??? Im going with chick ;D
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Sami, Where did you guest pose? I just got back from Doha, and it would have been cool to have caught your routine.
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Dream-Tan is like using spackle or wood putty..........it fills in all definition and you look smooth.
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Also not a good idea in the future...too thick. Will make you look smoother than whatever condition you are in. Posing oil is much lighter and will allow you to sweat through it...
what about pam spray bob?
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I use Hawaii Tropic Dark Tanning Oil for shows.
Is this a "gay code" for shit
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Bob have you heard about that product ?
I heard it was like pro-tan but you don't need as much coat and that it takes like 5 minutes to put it on the entire body
http://workoutwear.com/competit.html (http://workoutwear.com/competit.html)
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Is this a "gay code" for shit
1 vince 2 cups???
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Kegdrainer, until you step onstage and actually compete you have no idea what you are talking about
I learned how to pose from the Perfect Posing instructional tapes which I followed to a T including the use of Hawaii Tropic Tanning Oil. Apparantly Chick says its too thick and from the night show I did, I had way too much glare so I have to agree with him on that.
I'll have to reconsider what I use but as far as Dream Tan is concerned, I feel if applied on correctly and very thinly instead of doing a rush job, it can make you look awesome. A lot of people buy it from my store but mostly international.
Honestly Goodrum what drug do you take in the morning. NOTHING on earth or has ever been invented could help you look good. NOTHING! The only thing you have, is the natural ability of looking like shit and sucking dick. You really need to realize your place. And the last one is on stage. Is it true that you only enter BB contests to see if you can catch a glimpse of the guys backstage?
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Sami, Where did you guest pose? I just got back from Doha, and it would have been cool to have caught your routine.
my posing was just like Kuwait guest posing... i did the same gladiator posing... here it is on YOUTUBE :
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=212926.25