is it DREAM TAN that BAD...!!!

[CQ]

As a member of the international bodybuilding community, I am ashamed and embarrassed by our insistence upon using it. I really am - looks awful 99% of the time.

[Moosejay]

Ashamed and embarrassed?

Well, I wouldn't go THAT far....

[Chick]

Chick, I agree, but then why in the world do these guys continue to use it? I tell all of our  competitors its in theiur best interests to avoid the stuff, but it is all laid upon deaf ears

If they were smart...all they would have to do is take notice that NO sucessful pro uses it....ever.

Why do they do HALF the things they do?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Dreamtan is the worst shit in the world to use for a show...guaranteed to cover up any definition/ I actually had a guy arguing with me some time ago that it was soooooooo god that his buddy used it to cover up his tatoos...couldn't even se them..!LOL

Nothing like a pasty, dull hue to make you look your softest on stage.

I have to disagree with you.  Dream Tan applied correctly can show more definition than Pro-Tan.  Its just that too many people have the idea that you can apply it 1 hour before an event without doing anything else and they usually end up putting it on too thick.   

Its more to do with inexperience with the product in the US as most contests here forbid it. 


The best thing to do is to call the promoter first anyway to check all the details of the show not just for tan products but for everything

[davidpaul]

I have to disagree with you.  Dream Tan applied correctly can show more definition than Pro-Tan.  Its just that too many people have the idea that you can apply it 1 hour before an event without doing anything else and they usually end up putting it on too thick.   

Its more to do with inexperience with the product in the US as most contests here forbid it. 


The best thing to do is to call the promoter first anyway to check all the details of the show not just for tan products but for everything

 

[Chick]

I have to disagree with you.  Dream Tan applied correctly can show more definition than Pro-Tan.  Its just that too many people have the idea that you can apply it 1 hour before an event without doing anything else and they usually end up putting it on too thick.   

Its more to do with inexperience with the product in the US as most contests here forbid it. 


The best thing to do is to call the promoter first anyway to check all the details of the show not just for tan products but for everything

Being that Protan is alcohol based...nothing that applies like a paste and has a pastel golden hue can do anything but make you look smoother and softer...just a matter of the wayb the light bounce of of reflective surfaces...doesn't absorb.

Like I said...there's a reason the pro's don't use it

[Kegdrainer]

I have to disagree with you.  Dream Tan applied correctly can show more definition than Pro-Tan.  Its just that too many people have the idea that you can apply it 1 hour before an event without doing anything else and they usually end up putting it on too thick.   

Its more to do with inexperience with the product in the US as most contests here forbid it. 


The best thing to do is to call the promoter first anyway to check all the details of the show not just for tan products but for everything

vince, pics of you on stage look like you smeared yourself with mud.  Were you trying to hide from Predator?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

vince, pics of you on stage look like you smeared yourself with mud.  Were you trying to hide from Predator?

I use Hawaii Tropic Dark Tanning Oil for shows.

[Chick]

I use Hawaii Tropic Dark Tanning Oil for shows.

Also not a good idea in the future...too thick. Will make you look smoother than whatever condition you are in. Posing oil is much lighter and will allow you to sweat through it...

[CT]

Dream tan is a make-up whereas Pro Tan is a tint.

The difference is that Dream tan sits on the skin (as all other make-ups) and Pro Tan is soaked up by the skin and thus doesn't sit on it.

For that reason, Dream tan can hide cuts. If it is applied too thick, even slightly, it will reduce separation by basically ''filling the gaps'' between the muscles.

It can be used effectively but it has to be applied very thin; even the slightest excess will blur definition. Plus, the fact that it sits on the skin can create the illusion of water retention.

As Stavios mentionned, it works better on some guys than others. The only guys it works well with are those who have super deep separations (e.g. Flex Wheeler at his peak... tremendously round and separated muscle bellies) but even then it can hide definition if abused.

A lot of guys like it because contrary to Pro Tan, it washes right off (since it doesn't penetrate the skin). And for some reasons, the color it provides is very popular in Europe.

But there is no doubt that it can reduce the look of a physique.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Also not a good idea in the future...too thick. Will make you look smoother than whatever condition you are in. Posing oil is much lighter and will allow you to sweat through it...

That explains a few things.  I was going by the instructions in Perfect Posing.  I also noticed in your World Class Physique DVD that you cheat when you're doing your side relaxed poses.  I tried it and although it makes the waist much leaner, it hurts like hell to do it   

[dr.chimps]

vince, pics of you on stage look like you smeared yourself with mud.  Were you trying to hide from Predator?

Bwahahaha. Post of the day! Made me laugh out loud. Kudos.   

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

vince, pics of you on stage look like you smeared yourself with mud.  Were you trying to hide from Predator?

Kegdrainer, until you step onstage and actually compete you have no idea what you are talking about

 I learned how to pose from the Perfect Posing instructional tapes which I followed to a T including the use of Hawaii Tropic Tanning Oil.  Apparantly Chick says its too thick and from the night show I did, I had way too much glare so I have to agree with him on that.

I'll have to reconsider what I use but as far as Dream Tan is concerned, I feel if applied on correctly and very thinly instead of doing a rush job, it can make you look awesome.  A lot of people buy it from my store but mostly international.

[Moosejay]

In the 80's, I used this combination:

Tea
Baby oil
PPT hair dye-brown color...not made anymore

Mixed that together, hit the tanning bed

Finished with a coating of a cosmetic called 'Indian Earth' powder (do not think its made anymore).

I was rarely the best bb at the 60 shows I was in...but I ALWAYS had the best tan.

[Kegdrainer]

since you know jack shit about me i will let that slide.  i have been involved in bodybuilding promotions and shows for the last 8 years.  Your competitive record is nothing to clap about.  Your best pics on stage look like a prank, like you had some vendetta against the promoter and you got up there to embarass the organization intentionally.  Watching some posing tapes?  Please...you should be working with someone who has won some competitions, and maybe knows how to critique your form as you practice in front of a mirror.  This is how you get better at posing.  

Why don't you try going to the gym and lifting some weights before you talk shit.

Kegdrainer, until you step onstage and actually compete you have no idea what you are talking about

 I learned how to pose from the Perfect Posing instructional tapes which I followed to a T including the use of Hawaii Tropic Tanning Oil.  Apparantly Chick says its too thick and from the night show I did, I had way too much glare so I have to agree with him on that.

I'll have to reconsider what I use but as far as Dream Tan is concerned, I feel if applied on correctly and very thinly instead of doing a rush job, it can make you look awesome.  A lot of people buy it from my store but mostly international.

[titusisback]

Also not a good idea in the future...too thick. Will make you look smoother than whatever condition you are in.

I think Vince's razor sharp condition proves you WRONG. HA!!

[onlyme]

Sami whatever you don't use what Goodrum uses.  I think it is called Dream Shit. 

[Moosejay]

I think Vince's razor sharp condition proves you WRONG. HA!!

Has Vince ever annexed a show or taken home a physique award, such as a trophy?

[genrommel74]

Dreamtan is the worst shit in the world to use for a show...guaranteed to cover up any definition/ I actually had a guy arguing with me some time ago that it was soooooooo god that his buddy used it to cover up his tatoos...couldn't even se them..!LOL

Nothing like a pasty, dull hue to make you look your softest on stage.

bob, what is your personal favorite?

[onlyme]

That explains a few things.  I was going by the instructions in Perfect Posing.  I also noticed in your World Class Physique DVD that you cheat when you're doing your side relaxed poses.  I tried it and although it makes the waist much leaner, it hurts like hell to do it   

Vince how about training with weights.  Have you tried that.  No oil or anything will make you look any better.  Seriously, are you fucking blind??  The absolute last thing on the list (of many) you should worry about is what you put on that covering around your fat.  Try training.  You have NO muscle.  My down pillows have more muscle than you.  Hope this helps.

[TrueGrit]

ive seeen pics of asian contests where the guys look fantastic in dream tan. makes em look like statues

Say that to your parents at dinner. I dare you.

[PORKY]

There's Dream Tan #1 and Dream tan #2.In most parts of Asia dream tan #1 is banned because it gives a strange golden/greenish tint under the lights.Dream tan #2 on the other hand gives a more natural tanned colour.But both if over applied will hide all your definition as it is patroleum based and will sit on the surface of the skin.
There is ano brand that i can't recall which is Australian made and used a lot by Lee Priest.Will try looking up the name and website for it.Fabulous stuff and doesn't blur you out!

[no one]

I SWEAR that Dream Tan hides your cuts.  2-3 coats of Pro Tan work a lot better, IMO

2-3 coats? must be nice- i take you are a darker skinned guy?

i usually end up using 2 bottles and then some. i'll brush the first one or two coats on for the base. spray it the rest of the way. no shower between coating days- i find i lose too much of it. maybe some PAM backstage the morning of.

[Sami The Black-smith]

 THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE INFOOOOOOOO

 BOB: thanks for showing up
TERRY( PORKY) : you wrong in both DREAM TAN #1 and #2
VINCE G.: DO u know what u r talkin about? OR what WE are talkin about 

 i always use SUN BATH once a week for about 4 weeks and then apply 2 COAT of PRO TAN 1 night befor the show and THATS IT... but lots of guys kept telling me DREAM TAN will make u look even BETTER, so thought to use it during the coming guest posing.....and EVEN THE VAINS are GONE 

  and most of u were right... its just MAKES HELL OF MISS!! but PRO TAN u can take a shawer after the COATs dry and thats it, it will become just like ur skin and all what u need back stage PAM spray oil or BABY OIL...

 i respect other point of views BUT this is what DIDNT WORK with me and thought to share it with u guys to HELP OTHERS...



 ALL THESE VAINS GONE, LINE FADES AWAY.. like a magic

[arce377]

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