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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Moosejay on May 12, 2008, 05:03:48 PM
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This thread will either be long or not so long...
Good=not necessarily in the best shape, but good enough shape and also being cool and gentlemanly(much more important IMO)...interact with crowd, come out for encore, smooze with crowd...seem glad to be getting paid for it and glad to just be there
Bad=opposite of the above...coming in like a butterball...looking worse than the lowest placed competitor in the amateur show that nite
Who are your best and worst guest posers?
From what I have seen...the best ever condition was was Paul-Jean Guillaume and Ron Coleman (the OTHER Coleman) and Mike Matarazzo.
Levrone, two years in a row at the Junior Nats in Hartford, well, he could really give a Rat's --- and at 300 lbs of flab, too. Would barely talk to anyone and I don't know why they had him back
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looks short
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looks short
Yeah, like Chick says...ya know, the 'elevator and the shaft..'.. :-\
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Kinky Kamali has to be one of the worst, if not the worst.
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Kinky Kamali has to be one of the worst, if not the worst.
He is not in shape, or does not give a darn, or both?
I thought he was quite the showman...
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He is not in shape, or does not give a darn, or both?
I thought he was quite the showman...
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Matarazzo and Demayo the best. I think often guys with FREAKY bodyparts are the best guestposers. Markus Ruhl also. These guys have a big personalities that can get a crowd going. Johnnie Jackson and Chris Cook come to mind as guys that go on stage looking like garbage
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Ohh man...y'know...in that kinda pissy shape...you'd think they'd at least wear some spandex shorts or something....
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Matarazzo and Demayo the best. I think often guys with FREAKY bodyparts are the best guestposers. Markus Ruhl also. These guys have a big personalities that can get a crowd going. Johnnie Jackson and Chris Cook come to mind as guys that go on stage looking like garbage
yeah...I saw those bad pics of JOJ floating around a while back...or Sean Ray or Nasser...but yes, the Freaky bdypt guys...you are right...I don't think they have to be cut or ripped...just decent enough and their personalities/persona carry them and please the crowd
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Attention Pro's. Listen to Milos. there is no need to get FAT in the offseason. take a look at Dennis Wolf for example. Alot of guys look watery or bloated when they gain alot of mass (Phil Heath) however Kamali is clearly holding more than a layer of water. I hope he didn't get paid for that appearance.
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Matarazzo had a little problem with his heart didn't he???Thank God it had Nothing to do with taking Gear.
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Attention Pro's. Listen to Milos. there is no need to get FAT in the offseason. take a look at Dennis Wolf for example. Alot of guys look watery or bloated when they gain alot of mass (Phil Heath) however Kamali is clearly holding more than a layer of water. I hope he didn't get paid for that appearance.
Unfortunately, he very likely did get paid for that
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Matarazzo had a little problem with his heart didn't he???Thank God it had Nothing to do with taking Gear.
Yes...a very major problem...but you do know that, don't you?>
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Attention Pro's. Listen to Milos. there is no need to get FAT in the offseason. take a look at Dennis Wolf for example. Alot of guys look watery or bloated when they gain alot of mass (Phil Heath) however Kamali is clearly holding more than a layer of water. I hope he didn't get paid for that appearance.
dennis wolf is like dexter though, boost..the guys has a super fast natural metabolism; andi dont think its possible for him to get "fat" holding that much muscle.
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dennis wolf is like dexter though, boost..the guys has a super fast natural metabolism; andi dont think its possible for him to get "fat" holding that much muscle.
Maybe now...as he gets older, the fat will encroach
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dennis wolf is like dexter though, boost..the guys has a super fast natural metabolism; andi dont think its possible for him to get "fat" holding that much muscle.
Sure Wolf has a fast metabolism, maybe a bad example, but i'm stressing the point that there is no need to get outright FAT. Kamali sounds like the type of guy who sees Ronnie at 300 pounds and thinks he can do the same when in reality he doesnt have the genetics to add muscle FAST. All he is doing is throwing on a load of Water/Fat weight and looking like garbage.
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Sure Wolf has a fast metabolism, maybe a bad example, but i'm stressing the point that there is no need to get outright FAT. Kamali sounds like the type of guy who sees Ronnie at 300 pounds and thinks he can do the same when in reality he doesnt have the genetics to add muscle FAST. All he is doing is throwing on a load of Water/Fat weight and looking like garbage.
I say the vacuum pose should be mandatory.
really.
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Paul Dillett was the worst guest poser EVER!!! He came out and hit 8 poses (and looked like he was going to die doing it) and left. Matarazzo, Levrone and Marcus Haley stand out as some of the best
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Paul Dillett was the worst guest poser EVER!!! He came out and hit 8 poses (and looked like he was going to die doing it) and left. Matarazzo, Levrone and Marcus Haley stand out as some of the best
Strange...the two times I saw Levrone he was fat and 300...oh well...maybe just a bad run
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I say the vacuum pose should be mandatory.
really.
then jay will win the olympia again and again
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then jay will win the olympia again and again
<Ahem>
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how many of todays pros can do a possible vacumm.. or at least suck their gut in?
Dex can't, Vic can't, not sure about Dennis Wolf
but we've seen Jay tried that several times
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how many of todays pros can do a possible vacumm.. or at least suck their gut in?
Dex can't, Vic can't, not sure about Dennis Wolf
but we've seen Jay tried that several times
We have?
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He is not in shape, or does not give a darn, or both?
I thought he was quite the showman...
Kamali was very entertaining. I've seen Dorian and Fux and they were just big and had a holy shit factor, but they were not great guest posers. Anybody can come out and hit a few most musculars and a few lat spreads, but to actually have a good routine that keeps the audience on the edge of its seats is amazing. If you honestly think Kai or Dickerson or Labrada are boring, then you know nothing about posing. If anyone saw Paris' routine at the 89 Arnold, that man told a story with his routine. All these years later, his routine is the one that I remember. A good poser should leave an impressio9n on your mind. Dickerson in 1990 at the ASC, Ray in 87 and at the 94 O, Labrada at the 1992 O and Vince Taylor at the 1991 Olympia. Hell, I can still remember watching John Brown at the 85 Olympia in Belgium having the entire crowd clapping. Hate him or not, Kamali had the entire crowd at the 2001 Arnold waving their hands from side to side. It was the most amazing thing i've seen.
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We have?
yes..
well not actually like a Shawn Ray / Frank Zane vacumm (who does these days)
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yes..
well not actually like a Shawn Ray / Frank Zane vacumm (who does these days)
cormier can still pull off a vacumm.. and im sure alot of the lesser known pros can do it
jay used to hit a pretty good vaccum before he blew up in 2001
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Kamali was very entertaining. I've seen Dorian and Fux and they were just big and had a holy shit factor, but they were not great guest posers. Anybody can come out and hit a few most musculars and a few lat spreads, but to actually have a good routine that keeps the audience on the edge of its seats is amazing. If you honestly think Kai or Dickerson or Labrada are boring, then you know nothing about posing. If anyone saw Paris' routine at the 89 Arnold, that man told a story with his routine. All these years later, his routine is the one that I remember. A good poser should leave an impressio9n on your mind. Dickerson in 1990 at the ASC, Ray in 87 and at the 94 O, Labrada at the 1992 O and Vince Taylor at the 1991 Olympia. Hell, I can still remember watching John Brown at the 85 Olympia in Belgium having the entire crowd clapping. Hate him or not, Kamali had the entire crowd at the 2001 Arnold waving their hands from side to side. It was the most amazing thing i've seen.
Now that is what I am talking about..."Telling a story with his routine..."