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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Moosejay on May 15, 2008, 06:37:41 AM
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What is this a result of, or non-result of? Can anybody post some pics of examples of my statement?
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The above pics are examples of good peaks, btw
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It's mostly genetics.....you should see my peak ;D Gotta love them short biceps
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Well. simply its a matter of size.
You can see many good biceps peak in todays amateur also.
If your biceps is totaly developed,no longer you cant see the peak like these.
Simply, todays pros are more developed than old days pros.Priod.
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What is this a result of, or non-result of? Can anybody post some pics of examples of my statement?
The old-timers seem to think you can shape your physique any way you want through training. I'm sure you do too.
It's all genetics.
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A lot of these guys do a front double bicep...and the bicep head is flat...even and in line with the top of the deltoid...it may be that they do not supinate their hand enough while posing, but I doubt it. Maybe not enough refinement training...getting too big too fast...too many basic movements?
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The old-timers seem to think you can shape your physique any way you want through training. I'm sure you do too.
It's all genetics.
Well, if everyone thought that way, most would stay in bed, never strive, and amount to nothing.
Genetics is part of it. Some aspects can be surmounted.
If you think as you stated, you'd never be able to prove this right or wrong within the confines of your own genetics
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Well. simply its a matter of size.
You can see many good biceps peak in todays amateur also.
If your biceps is totaly developed,no longer you cant see the peak like these.
Simply, todays pros are more developed than old days pros.Priod.
Kyomu, you usually post much more intelligently than that...so I will give you a pass on this one... ;)
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Arm Genetics..
So hard for an old man to understand? ???
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Well, if everyone thought that way, most would stay in bed, never strive, and amount to nothing.
Genetics is part of it. Some aspects can be surmounted.
If you think as you stated, you'd never be able to prove this right or wrong within the confines of your own genetics
You don't need to prove anything at this point. All you have to do is look at pics of bodybuilders at different stages of their career. Same shape, only a size difference. Please post a pic comparison of a bb who changed their muscle shape. Out of all the bodybuilders who ever lived I'm sure there must be a lot of examples if it's possible.
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You limit yourself, Spinnis...the great 'genetics' excuse.
Offer yourself some 'solutions'...instead of laying back, foolishly content, and 'living off the fat of the land'
respect,
Moosejay
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What the fuck kind of stupid ass question is this. Take a look at ronnie coleman's arms and then re-think your peaks talk! Its all genetics!
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You don't need to prove anything at this point. All you have to do is look at pics of bodybuilders at different stages of their career. Same shape, only a size difference. Please post a pic comparison of a bb who changed their muscle shape. Out of all the bodybuilders who ever lived I'm sure there must be a lot of examples if it's possible.
Sure. Your words ring true.
However, it must be said that many likely sacrifice quality for raw siize. This can connote to training misdirections which, when adjusted, can allow the bb to improve their appearance.
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What the fuck kind of stupid ass question is this. Take a look at ronnie coleman's arms and then re-think your peaks talk! Its all genetics!
he is the exception...not the rule.
And I am simply laying this out there...I haven't stated anything as fact
Oh yes, about your overuse of the ! mark...the world hears you, quiet down :)
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If you have a full long football shaped type of bicep,or one with a high peak,it will not change shape no matter how many preachers or concentration curls you do.
It can/will only get bigger,smaller,fatter,or leaner.............depen ding on what you are doing training and dietwise.
You can create an illusion of biceps height by increasing braciallis size however.
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You limit yourself, Spinnis...the great 'genetics' excuse.
Offer yourself some 'solutions'...instead of laying back, foolishly content, and 'living off the fat of the land'
respect,
Moosejay
Moosejay = "you can change your muscle shape and build a peak with concentration curls"
Howie = "you can win big shows without drugs"
Basile = "with the right training system you can build pro level size without drugs"
What's with you oldies?
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Arm peak can be dramatically improved regardless of genetics. Larry Scott, in his book loaded guns, shows pics of himself in the 1960's. he had great full biceps, but no great peak. Then, in the late 80's, early 90's, he trained using a lot of peaking and isolation movements. He shows comparison shots and his bicep peak is way improved. Even Sergio, in the mid 80's got a better peak on his biceps.
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Bicep shape is all genetics. Look at serio' and ferrigo's biceps. Where were their peaks? There are plenty of examples of all shapes of biceps from all eras.
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If you have a full long football shaped type of bicep,or one with a high peak,it will not change shape no matter how many preachers or concentration curls you do.
It can/will only get bigger,smaller,fatter,or leaner.............depen ding on what you are doing training and dietwise.
You can create an illusion of biceps height by increasing braciallis size however.
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Well. simply its a matter of size.
You can see many good biceps peak in todays amateur also.
If your biceps is totaly developed,no longer you cant see the peak like these.
Simply, todays pros are more developed than old days pros.Priod.
I agree with you on this.
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Moosejay = "you can change your muscle shape and build a peak with concentration curls"
Howie = "you can win big shows without drugs"
Basile = "with the right training system you can build pro level size without drugs"
What's with you oldies?
We are old...hopefully this 'wrong' will someday befall you ;)
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Arm peak can be dramatically improved regardless of genetics. Larry Scott, in his book loaded guns, shows pics of himself in the 1960's. he had great full biceps, but no great peak. Then, in the late 80's, early 90's, he trained using a lot of peaking and isolation movements. He shows comparison shots and his bicep peak is way improved. Even Sergio, in the mid 80's got a better peak on his biceps.
Agreed, Chem. Truly a matter of concentration in some cases. Never limit oneself
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Kyomu, you usually post much more intelligently than that...so I will give you a pass on this one... ;)
You are dead wrong.
I was searching for kai greens old pics but i couldnt.(Somebody please post).
He used to have more peek when he was smaller.
Check him.
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You are dead wrong.
I was searching for kai greens old pics but i couldnt.(Somebody please post).
He used to have more peek when he was smaller.
Check him.
Everyone is free to pursue and maintaintheir own truth
Your truth
Is not my truth
Yet
It is still truth
Kyomu
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Me at 15 with Robby-no peak
Me at 22-peaked
8)
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Mike,that`s just lack of development in the younger pic...........just my opinion.
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Everyone is free to pursue and maintaintheir own truth
Your truth
Is not my truth
Yet
It is still truth
Kyomu
If you keep on denying others opinion WITHOUT EXPLAINING WHY,you dont need to create these kind of thread asking another opinion do you?
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What made you choose the pink posing trunks??
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8)
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Kai has better peak than Cormier.Dude..
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I1697_KHLFXCNCHK.jpg)
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Phil Heath comes to mind ...and Kai uses Synthol in his arms Kimosabi
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Mike,that`s just lack of development in the younger pic...........just my opinion.
TIM!
Why I outta....
:D I know...just funnin' with these guys here...
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If you keep on denying others opinion WITHOUT EXPLAINING WHY,you dont need to create these kind of thread asking another opinion do you?
Kyomu, my foreign friend, I never reduce another for their opinion.
All opinions are welcomed.
Just your post alone right here smacks that you are the one averse to opinions of others.
Respect
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Me at 15 with Robby-no peak
Me at 22-peaked
8)
Why is there a black semi-nude man behind you?
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What made you choose the pink posing trunks??
Well...I liked the fact that they were not basically a string and a marble sac...and, back then, I thought the color went well with my tone.
I have also used Burgundy, yellow, and kind of an aqua blue
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Kyomu, my foreign friend, I never reduce another for their opinion.
All opinions are welcomed.
Just your post alone right here smacks that you are the one averse to opinions of others.
Respect
Woooooooooooow!!!! AT lease 2 or 3 are agreed with me. I AM NOT ALONE about my opinion.
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Kai has better peak than Cormier.Dude..
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I1697_KHLFXCNCHK.jpg)
True
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Why is there a black semi-nude man behind you?
That is what YOU see.
I see a bicpes comparison shot.
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Woooooooooooow!!!! AT lease 2 or 3 are agreed with me. I AM NOT ALONE about my opinion.
We are all alone, hopefully, not lonely.
And yes, it is your opinion.
Natch.
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Today's pros also hit the front double biceps shot differently.
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Kai has better peak than Cormier.Dude..
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I1697_KHLFXCNCHK.jpg)
Very Robby Robinsonesque.
He just has to keep his waist in check and he'll be a contender.
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Woooooooooooow!!!! AT lease 2 or 3 are agreed with me. I AM NOT ALONE about my opinion.
Ky...not joking...do you understand the definition of 'opinion'?
You know at least two languages...I give you props...I know only one...perhaps something is getting lost in translation for you?
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Today's pros also hit the front double biceps shot differently.
That is correct.
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Nothing is more stupid than calling a opinion as mine or yours or whatever.
Here is a forum. Its a place to DEBATE.
If somebody say"Hey its my opinion. Dont touch it.", The forum is ENDED in that moment.
I accept why you dont agree with me, i accept it easily. Cus my ego is not big and i dont have my truth nor opinion.
Its just a opinion to entertain the forum. Hope this help my friend.
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;) muscles in the old days grew because of site specific training ! Today the guys take so many drugs everthing grows including the tissue surrounding the muscles ! And since a muscles size is limited to its lenth the spillover growth growth actually takes away from the mane mucles look ! ( thats why you dont see any pros with larger arms them SERGIO or larger pecs then ARNOLD ect despite weighing much more at similar heights ! The site specific art of bodybuilding has been lost to the omeba like groth caused by excessive drugs ! Cheers !
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Kai has better peak than Cormier.Dude..
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I1697_KHLFXCNCHK.jpg)
Wish I had a better/younger shot of Robby...he is 53 here...I'd say you are right...But I don't think Kai's lines are as clean as RR's. Hopefully he keeps his gut in check, like you said
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That is correct.
I think most pros back in day had lesser developed delts, which kinda added to the illusion of a much larger chest and biceps.
Pros back in the day probably trained arms much harder that the pros of today.
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Nothing is more stupid than calling a opinion as mine or yours or whatever.
Here is a forum. Its a place to DEBATE.
If somebody say"Hey its my opinion. Dont touch it.", The forum is ENDED in that moment.
I accept why you dont agree with me, i accept it easily. Cus my ego is not big and i dont have my truth nor opinion.
Its just a opinion to entertain the forum. Hope this help my friend.
Kyomu, you are kindof saying the same thing as me.
Cool...leave it at that.
But this "hope this helps" crap...c'mon...aren't you like....55 years old or something?
Wars start with your kind of mindset, pahdnuh
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Wish I had a better/younger shot of Robby...he is 53 here...I'd say you are right...But I don't think Kai's lines are as clean as RR's. Hopefully he keeps his gut in check, like you said
BTW...RR is synthol free here.... ;)
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Wish I had a better/younger shot of Robby...he is 53 here...I'd say you are right...But I don't think Kai's lines are as clean as RR's. Hopefully he keeps his gut in check, like you said
I see many similarities.
Kai, however, has much better calves.
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I think most pros back in day had lesser developed delts, which kinda added to the illusion of a much larger chest and biceps.
Pros back in the day probably trained arms much harder that the pros of today.
that could be true.
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I see many similarities.
Kai, however, has much better calves.
Yes...they look very suspect for synthol...IMO...although RR did have weak calves, indeed.
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;) muscles in the old days grew because of site specific training ! Today the guys take so many drugs everthing grows including the tissue surrounding the muscles ! And since a muscles size is limited to its lenth the spillover growth growth actually takes away from the mane mucles look ! ( thats why you dont see any pros with larger arms them SERGIO or larger pecs then ARNOLD ect despite weighing much more at similar heights ! The site specific art of bodybuilding has been lost to the omeba like groth caused by excessive drugs ! Cheers !
Pretty good, Bossman.
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Kyomu, you are kindof saying the same thing as me.
Cool...leave it at that.
But this "hope this helps" crap...c'mon...aren't you like....55 years old or something?
Wars start with your kind of mindset, pahdnuh
Ok I apologize to you about "Hope this Help"Phrase. i am sorry.
But I am sick and tired of people who dont give an explanation during debate and escaping saying "Leave MY opinion.".
I think its not sincere.
Imagine, if science academys doctors behave like you....ITS TOTALY MEANINGLESS.
They only want the truth. So thats why they debate. So they dont DEFEND THEIR opinion. Because they are always prepared for abandon their opinion for parsuing the truth.
So I wanted to hear your opinion in detail and why you are not agreed with me, but still you dont give me the reason.
Sorry. But I am honest. This is not a debate and quite boring.
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The old-timers seem to think you can shape your physique any way you want through training. I'm sure you do too.
It's all genetics.
Look at the shot I took of Sergio at the 84 Olympia and compare it with the one from the late 60's. I think his peak has improved there, showing you can improve peak.
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Look at the shot I took of Sergio at the 84 Olympia and compare it with the one from the late 60's. I think his peak has improved there, showing you can improve peak.
Mmm simply it looks like all of his muscle grew thats all. What do you think?
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Pretty good, Bossman.
8) Thanks MOOSE ! Ive been around awhile and have taken plenty of mental notes on training and its effects ! Cheers !
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beckles
szkalak
RR
JP Guillaume
Coe
Arnold
Many amateurs
Off the top of my head these guys have great bis/peaks
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Ok I apologize to you about "Hope this Help"Phrase. i am sorry.
But I am sick and tired of people who dont give an explanation during debate and escaping saying "Leave MY opinion.".
I think its not sincere.
Imagine, if science academys doctors behave like you....ITS TOTALY MEANINGLESS.
They only want the truth. So thats why they debate. So they dont DEFEND THEIR opinion. Because they are always prepared for abandon their opinion for parsuing the truth.
So I wanted to hear your opinion in detail and why you are not agreed with me, but still you dont give me the reason.
Sorry. But I am honest. This is not a debate and quite boring.
Okay.
Clearly delineate what it is you want my opinion on, and I will give it gladly.
And
When it comes to politics and the state of America and the election
I NEVER complain
UNLESS I offer a SOLUTION to go with my complaint
As so many are wont to do
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Ok I apologize to you about "Hope this Help"Phrase. i am sorry.
But I am sick and tired of people who dont give an explanation during debate and escaping saying "Leave MY opinion.".
I think its not sincere.
Imagine, if science academys doctors behave like you....ITS TOTALY MEANINGLESS.
They only want the truth. So thats why they debate. So they dont DEFEND THEIR opinion. Because they are always prepared for abandon their opinion for parsuing the truth.
So I wanted to hear your opinion in detail and why you are not agreed with me, but still you dont give me the reason.
Sorry. But I am honest. This is not a debate and quite boring.
And btw
No one's behavior is "meaningless"
That is not possible
Everything has meaning
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beckles
szkalak
RR
JP Guillaume
Coe
Arnold
Many amateurs
Off the top of my head these guys have great bis/peaks
Take note that they all had large pecs arms lats ect without the hugh asses thighs and obliques of our less pleasing looking modern pros ! DRUG SPILLOVER !
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Look at the shot I took of Sergio at the 84 Olympia and compare it with the one from the late 60's. I think his peak has improved there, showing you can improve peak.
Chem...that is so f---ing cool that you were there...man o man!
I see what you are saying. I agree. One example
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Mmm simply it looks like all of his muscle grew thats all. What do you think?
I think Chem's synopsis resounds.
just my opinion... :D
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8) Thanks MOOSE ! Ive been around awhile and have taken plenty of mental notes on training and its effects ! Cheers !
No problemo, Bossman
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I wonder if it's the emphasis on insanely huge lats. So everyone's spending more time doing pullups/downs (with their palms facing forward) than bicep curls. That's going to change how your biceps develop both in shape and size.
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Take note that they all had large pecs arms lats ect without the hugh asses thighs and obliques of our less pleasing looking modern pros ! DRUG SPILLOVER !
thank you!
If only the days of quality would return....
Yeah yeah yeah...I am an old timer....blah blah blah
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I wonder if it's the emphasis on insanely huge lats. So everyone's spending more time doing pullups/downs (with their palms facing forward) than bicep curls. That's going to change how your biceps develop both in shape and size.
Could be ...but strange.
Think of the first bdyoart folks train...usually biceps.
Someone says...lemme see your muscle...you pop out the bis...
So I don't know why this most telling of bodyparts has seemingly been de-accentuated...
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And btw
No one's behavior is "meaningless"
That is not possible
Everything has meaning
Of course. Everything has meaning and meaningless. We are not doing Buhdism or taoism or absolute truth of debate.
Here just i said Its meaningless in the defenition of gathering and make a debate for persuing one common truth.
Get it?
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thank you!
If only the days of quality would return....
Yeah yeah yeah...I am an old timer....blah blah blah
;) Glad to help ! Im actually doing a writeup on site specific training and how to use it with nutrient manipulation and timing for maximum effect ! It will be an interesting read and show some young guys an effecient way to train natually for a low maintenence physique ! cheers !
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Look at the shot I took of Sergio at the 84 Olympia and compare it with the one from the late 60's. I think his peak has improved there, showing you can improve peak.
Wowwww........I notice a very stupid thing.......Look at the angle of nackle...... ;D
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Chem...that is so f---ing cool that you were there...man o man!
I see what you are saying. I agree. One example
Thanks, Moose. example #2 .Larry Scott as a young man, and then in his ealy 50's after he said he specifically trained for a higher peak. The shape of the muscle has clearly changed.
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Thanks, Moose. example #2 .Larry Scott as a young man, and then in his ealy 50's after he said he specifically trained for a higher peak. The shape of the muscle has clearly changed.
Stop saying like this and just look at the difference of spination! ;D
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Stop saying like this and just look at the difference of spination! ;D
You're very foolish if you can't see the difference in the Larry Scott picture. His slightly different wrist turn couldn't make that big a difference.
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You're very foolish if you can't see the difference in the Larry Scott picture. His slightly different wrist turn couldn't make that big a difference.
And how about Sergio Oliva?
Just slight angle or flexing and spinating make HUGE difference.
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Stop saying like this and just look at the difference of spination! ;D
Thank you. Those pics are a horrible example.
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Thank you. Those pics are a horrible example.
Ok, almost the same wrist position. I guess the higher peak is all an optical illusion!
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Ok, almost the same wrist position. I guess the higher peak is all an optical illusion!
His elbow position makes a diference.
If your elbow position is higher than shoulder,Your biceps contract more than lower position.
So it makes more peak.
Check out the elbow position difference.
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His elbow position makes a diference.
If your elbow position is higher than shoulder,Your biceps contract more than lower position.
So it makes more peak.
Check out the elbow position difference.
This is becoming a waste of time. Believe what you want.
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This is becoming a waste of time. Believe what you want.
Bwahahahahahahahah! You TOO?
People cant debate because they mis-understand that a opinion belong to them and try to defend it.
Recomend you guys travel and live in another country where they do totaly different from you.
There ,you start to learn to live without your opinion. ;)
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Bwahahahahahahahah! You TOO?
People cant debate because they mis-understand that a opinion belong to them and try to defend it.
Recomend you guys travel and live in another country where they do totaly different from you.
There ,you start to learn to live without your opinion. ;)
There's nothing to debate. I have provided clear photographic evidence. The slightly higher elbow doesn't make that big a difference. Besides I've read Scott's book, Loaded guns. He devotes an entire chapter with plenty of photos, to explaining how he improved his peak. I'm busy trading the Forex market, I just missed making $3,000.00 in the last 5 minutes, trading the pound/yen, while I'm searching for more photos. Convincing you about the reality of these photos is a waste of time.
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There's nothing to debate. I have provided clear photographic evidence. The slightly higher elbow doesn't make that big a difference. Besides I've read Scott's book, Loaded guns. He devotes an entire chapter with plenty of photos, to explaining how he improved his peak. I'm busy trading the Forex market, I just missed making $3,000.00 in the last 5 minutes, trading the pound/yen, while I'm searching for more photos. Convincing you about the reality of these photos is a waste of time.
Ok I ppriciate your effort.
Now, i want you to do a thing.
Without thinking anything. Try to pose exctly same as him in front of the mirror. But EXACTLY SAME.
And observe how is your biceps look like.
If you were/are a competitor, you have known this truth already.
And dont cry for your money and bitching. Becuase you are not the only person who make money here. I am sending this mesage during i am in my factory and making money as usual.
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Thanks, Moose. example #2 .Larry Scott as a young man, and then in his ealy 50's after he said he specifically trained for a higher peak. The shape of the muscle has clearly changed.
VERY telling example
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You're very foolish if you can't see the difference in the Larry Scott picture. His slightly different wrist turn couldn't make that big a difference.
Agreed
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Thank you. Those pics are a horrible example.
Okay...so offer a SOLUTION with example pics, please
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Ok, almost the same wrist position. I guess the higher peak is all an optical illusion!
Unreal improvement in the second pic, Chem...and 25 year span has passed!
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Bwahahahahahahahah! You TOO?
People cant debate because they mis-understand that a opinion belong to them and try to defend it.
Recomend you guys travel and live in another country where they do totaly different from you.
There ,you start to learn to live without your opinion. ;)
Intelligent debating is okay.
Debating just to make noise is not.
I am a jingoist...forbidden to leave the land of the free ;)
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There's nothing to debate. I have provided clear photographic evidence. The slightly higher elbow doesn't make that big a difference. Besides I've read Scott's book, Loaded guns. He devotes an entire chapter with plenty of photos, to explaining how he improved his peak. I'm busy trading the Forex market, I just missed making $3,000.00 in the last 5 minutes, trading the pound/yen, while I'm searching for more photos. Convincing you about the reality of these photos is a waste of time.
HA!
Touche, indeed, Chem!
There are even better pics of Scott in his 60's with amazing peak.
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Ok I ppriciate your effort.
Now, i want you to do a thing.
Without thinking anything. Try to pose exctly same as him in front of the mirror. But EXACTLY SAME.
And observe how is your biceps look like.
If you were/are a competitor, you have known this truth already.
And dont cry for your money and bitching. Becuase you are not the only person who make money here. I am sending this mesage during i am in my factory and making money as usual.
Uhhh..Alex.....I'll take "Trading with The Chemist" for $3,000, please.
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HA!
Touche, indeed, Chem!
There are even better pics of Scott in his 60's with amazing peak.
I've noticed a lot of people on this board prefer to limit themselves, whether it be having pathetic calves because of genetics..so they don't bother to train them hard..or they buy into GH15's theory that no one can even have a remotely impressive physique unless they are juiced to the gills. I've decided it serves no purpose to debate these matters. I prefer to exchange ideas with individuals who are aware of the amazing transformational potential of a properly harnessed and inspired mind, where there are few, if any Limitations. Are you with me, Moose?
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I've noticed a lot of people on this board prefer to limit themselves, whether it be having pathetic calves because of genetics..so they don't bother to train them hard..or they buy into GH15's theory that no one can even have a remotely impressive physique unless they are juiced to the gills. I've decided it serves no purpose to debate these matters. I prefer to exchange ideas with individuals who are aware of the amazing transformational potential of a properly harnessed and inspired mind, where there are few, if any Limitations. Are you with me, Moose?
Exactly, Then I recommend you to challenge the people who use slin & GH like i am challenging. We didnt have limit,didnt we? ;)
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And In addition, I have NEVER said that we couldn't change our biceps peak.
Just i said these pic are inappropriate to prove it.
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Intelligent debating is okay.
Debating just to make noise is not.
I am a jingoist...forbidden to leave the land of the free ;)
You are tied up by calling yourself as a jingoist and trying to live and limiting the land of "free".
How do you think? ;D
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I've noticed a lot of people on this board prefer to limit themselves, whether it be having pathetic calves because of genetics..so they don't bother to train them hard..or they buy into GH15's theory that no one can even have a remotely impressive physique unless they are juiced to the gills. I've decided it serves no purpose to debate these matters. I prefer to exchange ideas with individuals who are aware of the amazing transformational potential of a properly harnessed and inspired mind, where there are few, if any Limitations. Are you with me, Moose?
Puh-leese...of course I am.
Our thinking is of the ilk that built America.
"Safety in numbers" for the rest...
They CHOOSE to swim in the swirling pools of mediocrity and discontent
As long as everyone is 'in the pool'
There is no need to strive
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And In addition, I have NEVER said that we couldn't change our biceps peak.
Just i said these pic are inappropriate to prove it.
Oh, ho, ho....looks like you are bending a bit, my friend...hmmmmmm?????
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Puh-leese...of course I am.
Our thinking is of the ilk that built America.
"Safety in numbers" for the rest...
They CHOOSE to swim in the swirling pools of mediocrity and discontent
As long as everyone is 'in the pool'
There is no need to strive
Very well put, my good man.
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You are tied up by calling yourself as a jingoist and trying to live and limiting the land of "free".
How do you think? ;D
Ummm...I don't know if I understand what you are trying to convey...but I do stand by what I said.
Moosejay approved
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Very well put, my good man.
And
You notice I did not rip on one person
I said for those who CHOOSE mediocrity, safety, whatever They can always CHOOSE to better their lot, instead of wallowing in it
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We'll cut Kyumo some slack because he does compete and is among the few around here that can be considered a long time bodybuilder..even if he is a bit delusional.
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Bicep shape is all genetics. Look at serio' and ferrigo's biceps. Where were their peaks? There are plenty of examples of all shapes of biceps from all eras.
Gotta agree. I am a good example. My left bicep is nicely peaked, my right less so. Trained 'em together for years. :-\
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Oh, ho, ho....looks like you are bending a bit, my friend...hmmmmmm?????
Since you guys exist,you guys have to defend yourself.
Since I dont exist, i will never die or live or straight or bend.
Again I dont have my opinion. Just I am honest.
Just if its not logical, i say its not logical.
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Darrem Charles is another of today's pros that has a outstanding bicep's peak.
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Ummm...I don't know if I understand what you are trying to convey...but I do stand by what I said.
Moosejay approved
Very interesting. What did you understand?
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We'll cut Kyumo some slack because he does compete and is among the few around here that can be considered a long time bodybuilder..even if he is a bit delusional.
I agree.
He is a die-hard 'man of iron' (that's my OPINION, Kyomu) :D
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Gotta agree. I am a good example. My left bicep is nicely peaked, my right less so. Trained 'em together for years. :-\
Arnold too...always poses db bi on twist to accentaute r bi peak versus flatter left
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Since you guys exist,you guys have to defend yourself.
Since I dont exist, i will never die or live or straight or bend.
Again I dont have my opinion. Just I am honest.
Just if its not logical, i say its not logical.
So, imperiously, what you are saying is that whatever you say is a FACT, since you don't have an opinion...
"All bow and hail the mighty Kyomu...." ;)
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Since you guys exist,you guys have to defend yourself.
Since I dont exist, i will never die or live or straight or bend.
Again I dont have my opinion. Just I am honest.
Just if its not logical, i say its not logical.
You don't exist? What are you then..a hologram?
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I agree.
He is a die-hard 'man of iron' (that's my OPINION, Kyomu) :D
Its very sad. :'(
Still You guys dont understand i am not in everywhere(Ur side nor my side).
I am not stubburn. Just I say what i see. If I am wrong correct me thats all.
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Very interesting. What did you understand?
Kyomu, no offence, really, I think something is getting lost in translation for you, dude.
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You don't exist? What are you then..a hologram?
Ohhh....hahahahah...I LOL'd on that, dude ;D
A hologram...still laughing..... :D
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I am still laughing at that...hardest laugh I had in a year...thanks to Chem and Kyoto
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I am still laughing at that...hardest laugh I had in a year...thanks to Chem and Kyoto
Good, glad I could amuse you.
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Good, glad I could amuse you.
Dude...I am telling you...just imagining this still has me laughing...like a little, spinning Kyomu hologram...kind of like Princess Leia presented to Luke S in one of the Star wars movies (only kidding, Kyomu)
I was at a huge medical seminar years ago...my bud and I were in the front row of crowd of 500...listen to this big time MD bloviate...he said something that wqas so funny to both of us that we could not stop laughing for 45 minutes...they had to ask us to stop or leave...we couldn't so we had to leave for a bit. Guess I should have een embarassed but I wasn't
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You don't exist? What are you then..a hologram?
"my" pinion come from my memories which comes to me with coincidence and some biological reason.
Everything i see are my prejudice and far from the absolute truth. And that prejudice is coming from my biological and enviromental reason.
There is nothing my own thing.
My body,more than 50% is water thus 50% is not me. Needless to say other component.
You are same as me.
The difference,
You misunderstand these kind of thing are yours and you are OBLIGED to protect them.And those fear make you blind.
I know these kind of things are not mine(in other point of view,mine),so I am free from it. Since I am free from it, I dont have to protect my OWN thinking and i can accept many idea as possible.
I am not here and everywhere. My opinion doesnt exist. JUST A THEORY.
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"my" pinion come from my memories which comes to me with coincidence and some biological reason.
Everything i see are my prejudice and far from the absolute truth. And that prejudice is coming from my biological and enviromental reason.
There is nothing my own thing.
My body,more than 50% is water thus 50% is not me. Needless to say other component.
You are same as me.
The difference,
You misunderstand these kind of thing are yours and you are OBLIGED to protect them.And those fear make you blind.
I know these kind of things are not mine(in other point of view,mine),so I am free from it. Since I am free from it, I dont have to protect my OWN thinking and i can accept many idea as possible.
I am not here and everywhere. My opinion doesnt exist. JUST A THEORY.
WOW! If Kyomu and DaddyWaddy/Johnny Falcon ever meet in a thread it could be catastrophic - like matter and anti-matter colliding. :o
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Darrem Charles is another of today's pros that has a outstanding bicep's peak.
superb bi's
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"my" pinion come from my memories which comes to me with coincidence and some biological reason.
Everything i see are my prejudice and far from the absolute truth. And that prejudice is coming from my biological and enviromental reason.
There is nothing my own thing.
My body,more than 50% is water thus 50% is not me. Needless to say other component.
You are same as me.
The difference,
You misunderstand these kind of thing are yours and you are OBLIGED to protect them.And those fear make you blind.
I know these kind of things are not mine(in other point of view,mine),so I am free from it. Since I am free from it, I dont have to protect my OWN thinking and i can accept many idea as possible.
I am not here and everywhere. My opinion doesnt exist. JUST A THEORY.
Kyomu:
You and I are just a couple of 'sacs of cells'....just like the other 6 billion plus on the planet :)
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"my" pinion come from my memories which comes to me with coincidence and some biological reason.
Everything i see are my prejudice and far from the absolute truth. And that prejudice is coming from my biological and enviromental reason.
There is nothing my own thing.
My body,more than 50% is water thus 50% is not me. Needless to say other component.
You are same as me.
The difference,
You misunderstand these kind of thing are yours and you are OBLIGED to protect them.And those fear make you blind.
I know these kind of things are not mine(in other point of view,mine),so I am free from it. Since I am free from it, I dont have to protect my OWN thinking and i can accept many idea as possible.
I am not here and everywhere. My opinion doesnt exist. JUST A THEORY.
Does this mean that if you don't show up to work, you won't get fired, because you are not there anyway?
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WOW! If Kyomu and DaddyWaddy/Johnny Falcon ever meet in a thread it could be catastrophic - like matter and anti-matter colliding. :o
You are correct. But Incorrect.
Existing or non existing is depending on the point of view.
Just what i am saying is that we are happy with freedom.
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Does this mean that if you don't show up to work, you won't get fired, because you are not there anyway?
Wow, this Kyumo guy is deep! He makes Mr. Miyagi look like Adam Sandler.
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Wow, this Kyumo guy is deep! He makes Mr. Miyagi look like Adam Sandler.
I like Kyumo,he is a thinker, not a stinker.
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Kyumo...please post a front double bi of yourself here.,..in the spirit of the thread.
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Kyumo...please post a front double bi of yourself here.,..in the spirit of the thread.
Still I dont ;D
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You are correct. But Incorrect.
Existing or non existing is depending on the point of view.
Just what i am saying is that we are happy with freedom.
Yes. I like that sentiment very much. Too bad so many others find refuge in its antithesis. :-\
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So, imperiously, what you are saying is that whatever you say is a FACT, since you don't have an opinion...
"All bow and hail the mighty Kyomu...." ;)
No. You guys have tendency of thinking with prejudice. Reef=Green Apple=red War=Bad, Peace=good...etc.
Not logical means not logical. thats all.
Nothing to do with fact.
Even if exist a material heavier than iron and lighter than cotton at the same time, its not logical(For us).
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Yes. I like that sentiment very much. Too bad so many others find refuge in its antithesis. :-\
hehe, we are all longing for freedom but we are afraid of it so much at the same time. ;D
Even if Jesus or Buhdda say
"All you are saved already, we are in paradise and free."
Who care?
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No. You guys have tendency of thinking with prejudice. Reef=Green Apple=red War=Bad, Peace=good...etc.
Not logical means not logical. thats all.
Nothing to do with fact.
Even if exist a material heavier than iron and lighter than cotton at the same time, its not logical(For us).
One or the Other:
Kyomu=Believes what he is saying
or
Kyomu=Stupid Ass
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One or the Other:
Kyomu=Believes what he is saying
or
Kyomu=Stupid Ass
Kyomu=Stupid Ass
How do you explain this logic? Intersting...
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Kyomu=Stupid Ass
How do you explain this logic? Intersting...
I just don't understand you, dude.
I do admire your passion though,
Best,
Mike
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Peaked biceps = Genetic
Both Kyomu and MJ = Cool Guys
That's my maths for the day :)
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I just don't understand you, dude.
I do admire your passion though,
Best,
Mike
Haha.No need to.
Mike,If you are happy,its not important. ;D
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Haha.No need to.
Mike,If you are happy,its not important. ;D
Zen. :)
/if you meet the buddha on the road...kill him
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So I said on the first page Its ALL ABOUT ARM GENETICS and moosjay had a retarded answer..
So now after 6 pages, anyone got another explanation?
lol
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Zen. :)
/if you meet the buddha on the road...kill him
Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah!!!
Thats really truth.
There is a important reason. Killing Buhda(good thing in our prejudice) means erase all the prejudice and discrimination which make us suffer.
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Peaked biceps = Genetic
Both Kyomu and MJ = Cool Guys
That's my maths for the day :)
Ha!
I do agree...and so are you, burn
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Haha.No need to.
Mike,If you are happy,its not important. ;D
And to that we can both toast! ;D
You shoulk still poost your fdb shot!
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So I said on the first page Its ALL ABOUT ARM GENETICS and moosjay had a retarded answer..
So now after 6 pages, any got another explanation?
If insulting others makes you feel better about yourself, Spin, then I am glad to help you.
I am all about helping others :)
lol
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Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah!!!
Thats really truth.
There is a important reason. Killing Buhda(good thing in our prejudice) means erase all the prejudice and discrimination which make us suffer.
The Buddha is within us, not outside walking along a road. :)
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The Buddha is within us, not outside walking along a road. :)
In the phylosophy of Buddhism,
The Buddha means world itself.
Not only inside,but outside. Everything. Beyond existance and non-existance,good or bad.
Like Jesus dwelled on,Its everywhere. The world is nothing but a god.
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I`m confused!! :(
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I`m confused!! :(
You are not alone..wes
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In the phylosophy of Buddhism,
The Buddha means world itself.
Not only inside,but outside. Everything. Beyond existance and non-existance,good or bad.
Like Jesus dwelled on,Its everywhere. The world is nothing but a god.
Kyomu. You should walk the earth. You know, like Caine in Kung Fu. Just walk from town to town, meet people, get in adventures. ;)
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You are not alone..wes
You knew when you were small kid. And still you know it.
But,many prejudice cover our mind and cant see the truth(just the way it is). Thats it and easy.
Ok. stop thinking about stupid phylosophy that i told you and keep on debating that
Biceps peak is:
Genetic?
or
can be improved?
This is more amusing. :)
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Kyomu. You should walk the earth. You know, like Caine in Kung Fu. Just walk from town to town, meet people, get in adventures. ;)
Hahaha. Telling the truth. I walked on earth too much.I am tired...
And I am a Japanese who ended up with having a tradicional japanese rice cake company in Barcelona Spain.
Not enough? ;D
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The Buddha is within us, not outside walking along a road. :)
How were the Buddha's peaks?
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retarded thread
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How were the Buddha's peaks?
Buddha is peak of biceps itself also.
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retarded thread
It was strong until a few posts ago...please add your best peaked posts
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You knew when you were small kid. And still you know it.
But,many prejudice cover our mind and cant see the truth(just the way it is). Thats it and easy.
Ok. stop thinking about stupid phylosophy that i told you and keep on debating that
Biceps peak is:
Genetic?
or
can be improved?
Kyomu:
If you are weird/eccentric...that is fine
If you are TRYING to be weird...that is lame
This is more amusing. :)
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8)
(http://milossarcev.com/board/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1071.0;id=9045;image)
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Hey are you OK?
Why do i have to be weird?
Since everything has the motive to be something.
You should know why i must be weird...
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(http://milossarcev.com/board/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1071.0;id=9045;image)
Red X, K.
Hey comrade...do you really own a rice cake company in Spain?
That is very cool!
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Hey are you OK?
Why do i have to be weird?
Since everything has the motive to be something.
You should know why i must be weird...
I'm Okay
You're Okay
(Book by a famous dude)
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Kyomu I feel it would be fun to talk with you in person!
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This is like reading a string of bad fortune cookies.
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Red X, K.
Hey comrade...do you really own a rice cake company in Spain?
That is very cool!
Yeah. But its not that rice cake which BBers eat before contest.
Mines are sweet soft desert for japanese restaurant.
My company is 7yrs old now.
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This is like reading a string of bad fortune cookies.
Yes...me love you long time... :)
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Kyomu I feel it would be fun to talk with you in person!
If you come to Barcelona anytime.
If i go to your town why not?
Where do you live?
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Yeah. But its not that rice cake which BBers eat before contest.
Mines are sweet soft desert for japanese restaurant.
My company is 7yrs old now.
Congrats on the business success...if you can make it in both bb and business, two of the hardest things to do in the world, then you have made it.
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If you come to Barcelona anytime.
If i go to your town why not?
Where do you live?
I own businesses in Hamden, CT, where my main office is. I have an open invitation to all getbiggers to enjoy lunch with me and my staff anytime anyone is here.
Includes you, too, Kyomu.
I have never been out of the country
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I own businesses in Hamden, CT, where my main office is. I have an open invitation to all getbiggers to enjoy lunch with me and my staff anytime anyone is here.
Includes you, too, Kyomu.
I have never been out of the country
Cool. I love visiting states for one reason...........Foooooo ooooood!!!! There are many kind of food there since many immigrant and they are big size!!!
Everytime i go to america. I am thinking about eating ;D
And You dont need to go out side your country on purpose. Since everything is causality and coincidence, the desteny will take you outside of country if you need to. If not,you will never go out side forever and you will keep on being happy. Thats the most important thing!
In my case, just coincidentary not like you(WHo know?you may travel a lot more than me future in case...). Thats all.
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Cool. I love visiting states for one reason...........Foooooo ooooood!!!! There are many kind of food there since many immigrant and they are big size!!!
Everytime i go to america. I am thinking about eating ;D
And You dont need to go out side your country on purpose. Since everything is causality and coincidence, the desteny will take you outside of country if you need to. If not,you will never go out side forever and you will keep on being happy. Thats the most important thing!
In my case, just coincidentary not like you(WHo know?you may travel a lot more than me future in case...). Thats all.
Kyomu...I agree with your entire post!!!
The best food where I live is Pizza and Italian.
I live on the Yale University Campus, and there is tons of Italian food here...as well as much ethnic likely bc of Yale.
Louis' Lunch...over 100 years old and home where the Hamburger was originated.
Moosejay approved
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It was strong until a few posts ago...please add your best peaked posts
how about no
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What is this a result of, or non-result of? Can anybody post some pics of examples of my statement?
Did you ever train legs?
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Kyomu...I agree with your entire post!!!
The best food where I live is Pizza and Italian.
I live on the Yale University Campus, and there is tons of Italian food here...as well as much ethnic likely bc of Yale.
Louis' Lunch...over 100 years old and home where the Hamburger was originated.
Moosejay approved
Guaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!Wanna kill me!?
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Did you ever train legs?
Why...yes I did, Ful.
If you have any more questions, I will be more than HAPPY to provide you with a plethora of pictorials. ;)
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Guaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!Wanna kill me!?
Yes...but it all tastes sooooo gooooddd....and, like me...you have enjoyed a lifetime of dieting.
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how about no
Whatever provides you with comfort, Kenny.
My life's mission as a health strategist is to help as many people as possible.
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Whatever provides you with comfort, Kenny.
My life's mission as a health strategist is to help as many people as possible.
by doing what?
talking about bicep peaks?
::)
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by doing what?
talking about bicep peaks?
::)
Whatever helps you...all for the greater good.
In the end, life is all that matters.
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What flew up kyomus but ???
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Oh god dont answer that :P
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What flew up kyomus but ???
kyomu is a good guy
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Kai has better peaks then cormier but also a bigger waist and a palumbo stage 1 gut
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Kai has better peaks then cormier but also a bigger waist and a palumbo stage 1 gut
Yes...Kai possibly has the best peaks out there currently...D. Charles, too...astounding peaks...Cormier is done...no tris
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Darrem has oil in his.
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Darrem has oil in his.
Lousy if he does...but his bi's sure look good
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Darrem has oil in his.
I dont think so. If he does,his bi should be more puffy like Milos did it.
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Ok, almost the same wrist position. I guess the higher peak is all an optical illusion!
friends,,you cant change shape of your arm naturally and even on aas you need to do specific things like spot injects,,a bodybuilder with long biceps will always have long biceps no matter how much shadows you bring in the picture ,,a bodybuilder with high peack will always have high peak like moosjy that already had a good peak at 15
the only way to go from what larry was to what larry became peak wise is to inject primobolan or nanrolone or testosterone into the bicep head aka site injecting oil of the time since those are oils with anabolic drug in it ,,back then an ampoul cost aout a nicle and vial of 5 or 10 ml cost about 2 quarter coins,,good ole larry got himself about 2000 ampouls or 200 10 ml vials...set home for a good 6 months and inject every day 2-3 times a day into specific spot of the bicep....so did arnold...
sorry to bust your bubble friends,,but seo was back then too only with inject aas which costed pennies and were perfectly legal like buying bras,,no control what so ever and no one knew what steroid was among the public,,
this is the only way to make small changes to peaks ,,the guys you see now days using seo ABUSE IT AND USE REAL OIL AND ABUSE IT TO THE 10TH DEGREE,,back then they used aas and did it right and consistant and it desolved after time,,,thats why i always say that ken wheeler is a joke that shouldnt won anything inbodybuilding past 1998 and thankfully he didnt and quit into nothingess
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Respectfully, GH15...your rhetoric is very self-limiting.
'Moosejay approved.'
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friends,,you cant change shape of your arm naturally and even on aas you need to do specific things like spot injects,,a bodybuilder with long biceps will always have long biceps no matter how much shadows you bring in the picture ,,a bodybuilder with high peack will always have high peak like moosjy that already had a good peak at 15
the only way to go from what larry was to what larry became peak wise is to inject primobolan or nanrolone or testosterone into the bicep head aka site injecting oil of the time since those are oils with anabolic drug in it ,,back then an ampoul cost aout a nicle and vial of 5 or 10 mg cost about 2 quarter coins,,good ole larry got himself about 2000 ampouls or 200 10 mg vials...set home for a good 6 months and inject every day 2-3 times a day into specific spot of the bicep....so did arnold...
sorry to bust your bubble friends,,but seo was back then too only with inject aas which costed pennies and were perfectly legal like buying bras,,no control what so ever and no one knew what steroid was among the public,,
this is the only way to make small changes to peaks ,,the guys you see now days using seo ABUSE IT AND USE REAL OIL AND ABUSE IT TO THE 10TH DEGREE,,back then they used aas and did it right and consistant and it desolved after time,,,thats why i always say that ken wheeler is a joke that shouldnt won anything inbodybuilding past 1998 and thankfully he didnt and quit into nothingess
Good points man. Did they also inject their tris?
And you're about Flex. Dude got into his best shape/form by abusing anabolics, water loss drugs, and other stuff to nth degree. Good thing Coleman beat him in '98. Ronnie was a product of a lot drugs himself, but he was also about ball breaking training, and was a better Mr. O than Flex could have ever been.
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Good points man. Did they also inject their tris?
And you're about Flex. Dude got into his best shape/form by abusing anabolics, water loss drugs, and other stuff to nth degree. Good thing Coleman beat him in '98. Ronnie was a product of a lot drugs himself, but he was also about ball breaking training, and was a better Mr. O than Flex could have ever been.
I was standing with RR in Golds Venice 1998 when Flex approached...fat as a house.
Robby:"Man, Flex...you doin' the Olympia or no...?"
Flex: "C'mon, bro....I'll just get me on the chemicals.."
EXACTLY what was said.
Flex was a lazy ass , hated training, and would tell people that
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I was standing with RR in Golds Venice 1998 when Flex approached...fat as a house.
Robby:"Man, Flex...you doin' the Olympia or no...?"
Flex: "C'mon, bro....I'll just get me on the chemicals.."
EXACTLY what was said.
Flex was a lazy ass , hated training, and would tell people that
BTW, the Olympia was only 10 weeka away.
Unsure if that was the 'Year of the Ninja," or not ::)
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friends,,you cant change shape of your arm naturally and even on aas you need to do specific things like spot injects,,a bodybuilder with long biceps will always have long biceps no matter how much shadows you bring in the picture ,,a bodybuilder with high peack will always have high peak like moosjy that already had a good peak at 15
the only way to go from what larry was to what larry became peak wise is to inject primobolan or nanrolone or testosterone into the bicep head aka site injecting oil of the time since those are oils with anabolic drug in it ,,back then an ampoul cost aout a nicle and vial of 5 or 10 ml cost about 2 quarter coins,,good ole larry got himself about 2000 ampouls or 200 10 ml vials...set home for a good 6 months and inject every day 2-3 times a day into specific spot of the bicep....so did arnold...
sorry to bust your bubble friends,,but seo was back then too only with inject aas which costed pennies and were perfectly legal like buying bras,,no control what so ever and no one knew what steroid was among the public,,
this is the only way to make small changes to peaks ,,the guys you see now days using seo ABUSE IT AND USE REAL OIL AND ABUSE IT TO THE 10TH DEGREE,,back then they used aas and did it right and consistant and it desolved after time,,,thats why i always say that ken wheeler is a joke that shouldnt won anything inbodybuilding past 1998 and thankfully he didnt and quit into nothingess
If its true....pro bbing means nothing.
Just i have never seen a guy who make peak from flat biceps.
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friends,,you cant change shape of your arm naturally and even on aas you need to do specific things like spot injects,,a bodybuilder with long biceps will always have long biceps no matter how much shadows you bring in the picture ,,a bodybuilder with high peack will always have high peak like moosjy that already had a good peak at 15
the only way to go from what larry was to what larry became peak wise is to inject primobolan or nanrolone or testosterone into the bicep head aka site injecting oil of the time since those are oils with anabolic drug in it ,,back then an ampoul cost aout a nicle and vial of 5 or 10 ml cost about 2 quarter coins,,good ole larry got himself about 2000 ampouls or 200 10 ml vials...set home for a good 6 months and inject every day 2-3 times a day into specific spot of the bicep....so did arnold...
sorry to bust your bubble friends,,but seo was back then too only with inject aas which costed pennies and were perfectly legal like buying bras,,no control what so ever and no one knew what steroid was among the public,,
this is the only way to make small changes to peaks ,,the guys you see now days using seo ABUSE IT AND USE REAL OIL AND ABUSE IT TO THE 10TH DEGREE,,back then they used aas and did it right and consistant and it desolved after time,,,thats why i always say that ken wheeler is a joke that shouldnt won anything inbodybuilding past 1998 and thankfully he didnt and quit into nothingess
Absolutely correct, it's just amazing that people on a bodybuilding forum need someone to explain this to them ::)
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I was standing with RR in Golds Venice 1998 when Flex approached...fat as a house.
Robby:"Man, Flex...you doin' the Olympia or no...?"
Flex: "C'mon, bro....I'll just get me on the chemicals.."
EXACTLY what was said.
Flex was a lazy ass , hated training, and would tell people that
He was/is a rude mofo.
He went back on drugs after getting a kidney transplant. People die for those things, and here was this asshole disregarding such a beautiful gift of life. I'm not a mean spirited person, but I can't say I feel sorry what happened to Flex. Dude was an asshole.
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Absolutely correct, it's just amazing that people on a bodybuilding forum need someone to explain this to them ::)
Nonsense! Peaks can be improved with the cell/nitro-tech stack and by following Flex's never before seen 1975 Arnold bicep routines.
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Good points man. Did they also inject their tris?
And you're about Flex. Dude got into his best shape/form by abusing anabolics, water loss drugs, and other stuff to nth degree. Good thing Coleman beat him in '98. Ronnie was a product of a lot drugs himself, but he was also about ball breaking training, and was a better Mr. O than Flex could have ever been.
yes tricep too but to lesser degree ,,you will see bigger diff in bicep because you do it only for peak reason in most cases and if not abused can pull a good peak,,tricep is more gentic shape and if you got bad triceps you wont eb able to do nothign about it because youre not talking here about a peak but more of a whole bulk to the muscle that with out the right shape will look stupid..hard to pull the illusion with out good tricep ..pay attention since i know many of you will bring kevin as example ...kevin had VERY GOOD TRICEP SHAPE WISE and also didnt use it beside some esscilene shots but the tricep was supirior to begin with
also phil heath had long biceps and unlike you wrote here his biceps are one bulk like sergio style,,just big arms due to hormone usage ,,no hormones = 17 inch arms on heath with average peak
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Absolutely correct, it's just amazing that people on a bodybuilding forum need someone to explain this to them ::)
Yes...but you know who I am, and I stand behind my owrds, like a man.
Michael Dusa, DC
2285 Whitney Avenue
Hamden, CT 06518
;)
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just so its clear i didnt compare heath to sergio ,,sergio truly had big arms to begin with and far superior arms to heath naturally ,,heath is just a kid on drugs that respond well to them and nail his condition well as logn as he doesnt use insulin when he uses insulin and igf he becomes just another average professional of generation nothingness
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BTW, the Olympia was only 10 weeka away.
Unsure if that was the 'Year of the Ninja," or not ::)
Yeah, he said that even he didn't think he deserved to win and would sabotage his own training and dieting. Although, in his earlier years he did train hard and heavy. He had Chris Cormier as a training partner, and we all know Chris would haul some weight around. So that means Flex had to either keep up or lower the weight---or go home. And Since Flex has big ego, you know his ass was keeping up.
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Darrem has oil in his.
I guess Darrem had oil in his biceps since 1989, when I believe he won Mr. Trinidad ::)
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I guess Darrem had oil in his biceps since 1989, when I believe he won Mr. Trinidad ::)
marcus is obviously retarded and knows nothing about synthol use and the looks of it. because dareem has not oil look what so ever in his biceps. just a jelous hater with 14 inch arms trying to tear others down so he can feel better about himself.
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retarded thread
This is where Squadfather came in handy. He would have jumped all over Moosejay 6 pages ago and sidetracked him, so this idiotic thread wouldn't exist.
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marcus is obviously retarded and knows nothing about synthol use and the looks of it. because dareem has not oil look what so ever in his biceps. just a jelous hater with 14 inch arms trying to tear others down so he can feel better about himself.
Yeah like oil is totally against his principles... it's not like he would shoot it in his calves or anything :D