Today's Pros have very poorly peaked biceps...

[The ChemistV2]

Thank you.  Those pics are a horrible example.

Ok, almost the same wrist position. I guess the higher peak is all an optical illusion!

[kyomu]

Ok, almost the same wrist position. I guess the higher peak is all an optical illusion!

His elbow position makes a diference.
If your elbow position is higher than shoulder,Your biceps contract more than lower position.
So it makes more peak.
Check out the elbow position difference.

[The ChemistV2]

His elbow position makes a diference.
If your elbow position is higher than shoulder,Your biceps contract more than lower position.
So it makes more peak.
Check out the elbow position difference.

This is becoming a waste of time. Believe what you want.

[kyomu]

This is becoming a waste of time. Believe what you want.

Bwahahahahahahahah! You TOO?
People cant debate because they mis-understand that a opinion belong to them and try to defend it.
Recomend you guys travel and live in another country where they do totaly different from you.
There ,you start to learn to live without your opinion.

[The ChemistV2]

Bwahahahahahahahah! You TOO?
People cant debate because they mis-understand that a opinion belong to them and try to defend it.
Recomend you guys travel and live in another country where they do totaly different from you.
There ,you start to learn to live without your opinion.

There's nothing to debate. I have provided clear photographic evidence. The slightly higher elbow doesn't make that big a difference. Besides I've read Scott's book, Loaded guns. He devotes an entire chapter with plenty of photos, to explaining how he improved his peak. I'm busy trading the Forex market, I just missed making $3,000.00 in the last 5 minutes, trading the pound/yen, while I'm searching for more photos. Convincing you about the reality of these photos is a waste of time.

[kyomu]

There's nothing to debate. I have provided clear photographic evidence. The slightly higher elbow doesn't make that big a difference. Besides I've read Scott's book, Loaded guns. He devotes an entire chapter with plenty of photos, to explaining how he improved his peak. I'm busy trading the Forex market, I just missed making $3,000.00 in the last 5 minutes, trading the pound/yen, while I'm searching for more photos. Convincing you about the reality of these photos is a waste of time.

Ok I ppriciate your effort.

Now, i want you to do a thing.
Without thinking anything. Try to pose exctly same as him in front of the mirror. But EXACTLY SAME.
And observe how is your biceps look like.
If you were/are a competitor, you have known this truth already.

And dont cry for your money and bitching. Becuase you are not the only person who make money here. I am sending this mesage during i am in my factory and making money as usual.

[Moosejay]

Thanks, Moose. example #2 .Larry Scott as a young man, and then in his ealy 50's after he said he specifically trained for a higher peak. The shape of the muscle has clearly changed.

VERY telling example

[Moosejay]

You're very foolish if you can't see the difference in the Larry Scott picture. His slightly different wrist turn couldn't make that big a difference.

Agreed

[Moosejay]

Thank you.  Those pics are a horrible example.

Okay...so offer a SOLUTION with example pics, please

[Moosejay]

Ok, almost the same wrist position. I guess the higher peak is all an optical illusion!

Unreal improvement in the second pic, Chem...and 25 year span has passed!

[Moosejay]

Bwahahahahahahahah! You TOO?
People cant debate because they mis-understand that a opinion belong to them and try to defend it.
Recomend you guys travel and live in another country where they do totaly different from you.
There ,you start to learn to live without your opinion.

Intelligent debating is okay.

Debating just to make noise is not.

I am a jingoist...forbidden to leave the land of the free

[Moosejay]

There's nothing to debate. I have provided clear photographic evidence. The slightly higher elbow doesn't make that big a difference. Besides I've read Scott's book, Loaded guns. He devotes an entire chapter with plenty of photos, to explaining how he improved his peak. I'm busy trading the Forex market, I just missed making $3,000.00 in the last 5 minutes, trading the pound/yen, while I'm searching for more photos. Convincing you about the reality of these photos is a waste of time.

HA!

Touche, indeed, Chem!

There are even better pics of Scott in his 60's with amazing peak.

[Moosejay]

Ok I ppriciate your effort.

Now, i want you to do a thing.
Without thinking anything. Try to pose exctly same as him in front of the mirror. But EXACTLY SAME.
And observe how is your biceps look like.
If you were/are a competitor, you have known this truth already.

And dont cry for your money and bitching. Becuase you are not the only person who make money here. I am sending this mesage during i am in my factory and making money as usual.

Uhhh..Alex.....I'll take "Trading with The Chemist" for $3,000, please.

[The ChemistV2]

HA!

Touche, indeed, Chem!

There are even better pics of Scott in his 60's with amazing peak.

I've noticed a lot of people on this board prefer to limit themselves, whether it be having pathetic calves because of genetics..so they don't bother to train them hard..or they buy into GH15's theory that no one can even have a remotely impressive physique unless they are juiced to the gills. I've decided it serves no purpose to debate these matters. I prefer to exchange ideas with individuals who are aware of the amazing transformational potential of a properly harnessed and inspired mind, where there are few, if any Limitations. Are you with me, Moose?

[kyomu]

I've noticed a lot of people on this board prefer to limit themselves, whether it be having pathetic calves because of genetics..so they don't bother to train them hard..or they buy into GH15's theory that no one can even have a remotely impressive physique unless they are juiced to the gills. I've decided it serves no purpose to debate these matters. I prefer to exchange ideas with individuals who are aware of the amazing transformational potential of a properly harnessed and inspired mind, where there are few, if any Limitations. Are you with me, Moose?

Exactly, Then I recommend you to challenge the people who use slin & GH  like i am challenging. We didnt have limit,didnt we?

[kyomu]

And In addition, I have NEVER said that we couldn't change our biceps peak.
Just i said these pic are inappropriate to prove it.

[kyomu]

Intelligent debating is okay.

Debating just to make noise is not.

I am a jingoist...forbidden to leave the land of the free

You are tied up by calling yourself as a jingoist and trying to live and limiting the land of "free".
How do you think?

[Moosejay]

I've noticed a lot of people on this board prefer to limit themselves, whether it be having pathetic calves because of genetics..so they don't bother to train them hard..or they buy into GH15's theory that no one can even have a remotely impressive physique unless they are juiced to the gills. I've decided it serves no purpose to debate these matters. I prefer to exchange ideas with individuals who are aware of the amazing transformational potential of a properly harnessed and inspired mind, where there are few, if any Limitations. Are you with me, Moose?

Puh-leese...of course I am.

Our thinking is of the ilk that built America.

"Safety in numbers" for the rest...

They CHOOSE to swim in the swirling pools of mediocrity and discontent

As long as everyone is 'in the pool'

There is no need to strive

[Moosejay]

And In addition, I have NEVER said that we couldn't change our biceps peak.
Just i said these pic are inappropriate to prove it.

Oh, ho, ho....looks like you are bending a bit, my friend...hmmmmmm??

[The ChemistV2]

Puh-leese...of course I am.

Our thinking is of the ilk that built America.

"Safety in numbers" for the rest...

They CHOOSE to swim in the swirling pools of mediocrity and discontent

As long as everyone is 'in the pool'

There is no need to strive

Very well put, my good man.

[Moosejay]

You are tied up by calling yourself as a jingoist and trying to live and limiting the land of "free".
How do you think?

Ummm...I don't know if I understand what you are trying to convey...but I do stand by what I said.

Moosejay approved

[Moosejay]

Very well put, my good man.

And

You notice I did not rip on one person

I said for those who CHOOSE mediocrity, safety, whatever They can always CHOOSE to better their lot, instead of wallowing in it

[The ChemistV2]

We'll cut Kyumo some slack because he does compete and is among the few around here that can be considered a long time bodybuilder..even if he is a bit delusional.

[dr.chimps]

Bicep shape is all genetics.  Look at serio' and ferrigo's biceps.  Where were their peaks?  There are plenty of examples of all shapes of biceps from all eras.   

Gotta agree. I am a good example. My left bicep is nicely peaked, my right less so. Trained 'em together for years. 

[kyomu]

Oh, ho, ho....looks like you are bending a bit, my friend...hmmmmmm??

Since you guys exist,you guys have to defend yourself.
Since I dont exist, i will never die or live or straight or bend.
Again I dont have my opinion. Just I am honest.
Just if its not logical, i say its not logical.