Today's Pros have very poorly peaked biceps...

[Moosejay]

What is this a result of, or non-result of? Can anybody post some pics of examples of my statement?

[Moosejay]

The above pics are examples of good peaks, btw

[CT_Muscle]

It's mostly genetics.....you should see my peak  Gotta love them short biceps

[kyomu]

Well. simply its a matter of size.
You can see many good biceps peak in todays amateur also.
If your biceps is totaly developed,no longer you cant see the peak like these.

Simply, todays pros are more developed than old days pros.Priod.

[Van_Bilderass]

What is this a result of, or non-result of? Can anybody post some pics of examples of my statement?

The old-timers seem to think you can shape your physique any way you want through training. I'm sure you do too.

It's all genetics.

[Moosejay]

A lot of these guys do a front double bicep...and the bicep head is flat...even and in line with the top of the deltoid...it may be that they do not supinate their hand enough while posing, but I doubt it. Maybe not enough refinement training...getting too big too fast...too many basic movements?

[Moosejay]

The old-timers seem to think you can shape your physique any way you want through training. I'm sure you do too.

It's all genetics.

Well, if everyone thought that way, most would stay in bed, never strive, and amount to nothing.

Genetics is part of it. Some aspects can be surmounted.

If you think as you stated, you'd never be able to prove this right or wrong within the confines of your own genetics

[Moosejay]

Well. simply its a matter of size.
You can see many good biceps peak in todays amateur also.
If your biceps is totaly developed,no longer you cant see the peak like these.

Simply, todays pros are more developed than old days pros.Priod.

Kyomu, you usually post much more intelligently than that...so I will give you a pass on this one...

[spinnis]

Arm Genetics..
So hard for an old man to understand? 

[Van_Bilderass]

Well, if everyone thought that way, most would stay in bed, never strive, and amount to nothing.

Genetics is part of it. Some aspects can be surmounted.

If you think as you stated, you'd never be able to prove this right or wrong within the confines of your own genetics

You don't need to prove anything at this point. All you have to do is look at pics of bodybuilders at different stages of their career. Same shape, only a size difference. Please post a pic comparison of a bb who changed their muscle shape. Out of all the bodybuilders who ever lived I'm sure there must be a lot of examples if it's possible.

[Moosejay]

You limit yourself, Spinnis...the great 'genetics' excuse.

Offer yourself some 'solutions'...instead of laying back, foolishly content, and 'living off the fat of the land'

respect,

Moosejay

[wisconsinBB]

What the fuck kind of stupid ass question is this.  Take a look at ronnie coleman's arms and then re-think your peaks talk!  Its all genetics!

[Moosejay]

You don't need to prove anything at this point. All you have to do is look at pics of bodybuilders at different stages of their career. Same shape, only a size difference. Please post a pic comparison of a bb who changed their muscle shape. Out of all the bodybuilders who ever lived I'm sure there must be a lot of examples if it's possible.

Sure. Your words ring true.

However, it must be said that many likely sacrifice  quality for raw siize. This can connote to training misdirections which, when adjusted, can allow the bb to improve their appearance.

[Moosejay]

What the fuck kind of stupid ass question is this.  Take a look at ronnie coleman's arms and then re-think your peaks talk!  Its all genetics!

he is the exception...not the rule.

And I am simply laying this out there...I haven't stated anything as fact

Oh yes, about your overuse of the ! mark...the world hears you, quiet down

[wes]

If you have a full long football shaped type of bicep,or one with a high peak,it will not change shape no matter how many preachers or concentration curls you do.

It can/will only get bigger,smaller,fatter,or leaner.............depen ding on what you are doing training and dietwise.

You can create an illusion of biceps height by increasing braciallis size however.

[Van_Bilderass]

You limit yourself, Spinnis...the great 'genetics' excuse.

Offer yourself some 'solutions'...instead of laying back, foolishly content, and 'living off the fat of the land'

respect,

Moosejay

Moosejay = "you can change your muscle shape and build a peak with concentration curls"

Howie = "you can win big shows without drugs"

Basile = "with the right training system you can build pro level size without drugs"

What's with you oldies?

[The ChemistV2]

Arm peak can be dramatically improved regardless of genetics. Larry Scott, in his book loaded guns, shows pics of himself in the 1960's. he had great full biceps, but no great peak. Then, in the late 80's, early 90's, he trained using a lot of peaking and isolation movements. He shows comparison shots and his bicep peak is way improved. Even Sergio, in the mid 80's got a better peak on his biceps.

[wisconsinBB]

Bicep shape is all genetics.  Look at serio' and ferrigo's biceps.  Where were their peaks?  There are plenty of examples of all shapes of biceps from all eras.  

[Moosejay]

If you have a full long football shaped type of bicep,or one with a high peak,it will not change shape no matter how many preachers or concentration curls you do.

It can/will only get bigger,smaller,fatter,or leaner.............depen ding on what you are doing training and dietwise.

You can create an illusion of biceps height by increasing braciallis size however.

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Yes

[smaul]

Well. simply its a matter of size.
You can see many good biceps peak in todays amateur also.
If your biceps is totaly developed,no longer you cant see the peak like these.

Simply, todays pros are more developed than old days pros.Priod.

I agree with you on this.

[Moosejay]

Moosejay = "you can change your muscle shape and build a peak with concentration curls"

Howie = "you can win big shows without drugs"

Basile = "with the right training system you can build pro level size without drugs"

What's with you oldies?

We are old...hopefully this 'wrong' will someday befall you

[Moosejay]

Arm peak can be dramatically improved regardless of genetics. Larry Scott, in his book loaded guns, shows pics of himself in the 1960's. he had great full biceps, but no great peak. Then, in the late 80's, early 90's, he trained using a lot of peaking and isolation movements. He shows comparison shots and his bicep peak is way improved. Even Sergio, in the mid 80's got a better peak on his biceps.

Agreed, Chem. Truly a matter of concentration in some cases. Never limit oneself

[kyomu]

Kyomu, you usually post much more intelligently than that...so I will give you a pass on this one...

You are dead wrong.
I was searching for kai greens old pics but i couldnt.(Somebody please post).
He used to have more peek when he was smaller.
Check him.

[Moosejay]

You are dead wrong.
I was searching for kai greens old pics but i couldnt.(Somebody please post).
He used to have more peek when he was smaller.
Check him.

Everyone is free to pursue and maintaintheir own truth

Your truth
Is not my truth
Yet
It is still truth

Kyomu

[Moosejay]

Me at 15 with Robby-no peak
Me at 22-peaked