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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Howard on May 19, 2008, 07:16:14 AM
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For most of us, I think we end up trying to get too big and end up just looking big and bulky.
At many regional and state level NPC shows, the best bodybuilders on stage are often those with lighter body wts. In my case , I looked at LOT better as a LT HVY, then I do at heavier body wts.
My present body wt and ( fat) bulky body is pretty useless overall for bodybuilding contests.
I might look BIGGER in clothes but I am worse as a bodybuilder. My 20" arms are big but they lack the cuts needed to be impressive.
In my humble opinion, most bodybuilders would be a lot better off ,if they opted for a quality physique and didn't do extreme level of drugs in search of a pro level body that won't ever happn anyway (99.9%).
I see endless ads for supplements and potions that promise to build more mass. I hear of countless drugs to gain more mass. Like many in our sport, I have bought into that kind of thinking and it has done little for me. Unless I diet down, get a lot leaner and lose body wt, I can't be competetive as a bodybuilder.
At some point, you stop thinking about building a better physique and focus only on getting bigger.
Howard
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Hahahaha. We both posted practically the same starter thread at the same time. Fucking weird.
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I burnt my fathers shed down when i was a kid trying this sort of thing, and when i explained that i was trying a form of therapy, he said i should see a doctor
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Hahahaha. We both posted practically the same starter thread at the same time. Fucking weird.
Great minds think alike ;)
Has this mistake bulking been your experience.?
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HOWIE there are many bbers who look lean and have aesthetic builds like rockel,henry,darem charles,just a few and there still considered to big for the normal population.so u know how big guys like yates and nasser,coleman really must have been compared to those guys i mentioned,lift ,eat.diet,supp clean or not and see how it shakes out.a)do not post a pro pic on your fridge for inspiration that is a defeat in itself.b)do not compare yourself to a pro build whether it is in your height or weight zone .c)no matter how good u look or train or are admired by fellow gym members,relatives,friends,there is always somewhere ,someplace either bigger,more ripped,better shaped,better genetics than you.but we can all dream.
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For most of us, I think we end up trying to get too big and end up just looking big and bulky.
At many regional and state level NPC shows, the best bodybuilders on stage are often those with lighter body wts. In my case , I looked at LOT better as a LT HVY, then I do at heavier body wts.
My present body wt and ( fat) bulky body is pretty useless overall for bodybuilding contests.
I might look BIGGER in clothes but I am worse as a bodybuilder. My 20" arms are big but they lack the cuts needed to be impressive.
In my humble opinion, most bodybuilders would be a lot better off ,if they opted for a quality physique and didn't do extreme level of drugs in search of a pro level body that won't ever happn anyway (99.9%).
I see endless ads for supplements and potions that promise to build more mass. I hear of countless drugs to gain more mass. Like many in our sport, I have bought into that kind of thinking and it has done little for me. Unless I diet down, get a lot leaner and lose body wt, I can't be competetive as a bodybuilder.
At some point, you stop thinking about building a better physique and focus only on getting bigger.
Howard
lean, healthy and aestetique is the way to go.
It's also better for the money. Nobody will give you a decend job if you burst out of every suit. ;D
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Howard, I think a lot of kids start bodybuilding weighing 150-160 lbs or less, and at that weight size is and should be a priority. But then they get up to 200 or so, and instead of shifting gears and focusing on achieving and maintaining low bodyfat, they keep going with the "size" thing and just end up looking like bloated pigs. I'm sure that's Squadfather's and other perma-bulkers' deal.
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HOWIE there are many bbers who look lean and have aesthetic builds like rockel,henry,darem charles,just a few and there still considered to big for the normal population.so u know how big guys like yates and nasser,coleman really must have been compared to those guys i mentioned,lift ,eat.diet,supp clean or not and see how it shakes out.a)do not post a pro pic on your fridge for inspiration that is a defeat in itself.b)do not compare yourself to a pro build whether it is in your height or weight zone .c)no matter how good u look or train or are admired by fellow gym members,relatives,friends,there is always somewhere ,someplace either bigger,more ripped,better shaped,better genetics than you.but we can all dream.
Great post! I have come to realize what you posted is 100% true ( at least for me).
This is also why prefer wt classes and like the NPC format more than the pros.
I got into this sport thinking Zane was the ideal/dream physique. I have decided to return to that as best I can.
I am also going to the Tampa pro show as Darrem will be in that one. The Olympia has some guys I admire but the emphasis is always on FREAKISH Mass.
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Howard, I think a lot of kids start bodybuilding weighing 150-160 lbs or less, and at that weight size is and should be a priority. But then they get up to 200 or so, and instead of shifting gears and focusing on achieving and maintaining low bodyfat, they keep going with the "size" thing and just end up looking like bloated pigs. I'm sure that's Squadfather's and other perma-bulkers' deal.
Great reply and yes once you have gained a good base of muscle mass, one should as you say "switch gears" and go for a lean, hard physique. I have been a perma bulker these past 12 years and what did it get me?
Other than eating a lot of good food :P, I couldn't even compete in the sport I love...bodybuilding.
Had I gained a few lbs, fine, but not the 50 I did gain of which a good 35-38 ,was FAT!
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I always looked my best when I'd stay as lean as possible and workout as hard as I can. The strength wasn't as good as when I'd eat a lot to gain size but I always looked better and bigger. I always looked bigger when lean then when I was bulky.
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Great thread Howard !
Yes I believe people focus too much on bodyweight and not enought on condition.
It's incredible the difference between 4 and 5 % BF, as you get leaner even 2-3 pounds leaner makes HUGE difference on skin tickness.
Myself for example, I gained a good amount of mass this year and at this pace I will be a few pounds lighter than I was onstage last year. Weight means nothing because being ripped give the illusion of being much much bigger and muscular thant the other guys
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Great thread Howard !
Yes I believe people focus too much on bodyweight and not enought on condition.
It's incredible the difference between 4 and 5 % BF, as you get leaner even 2-3 pounds leaner makes HUGE difference on skin tickness.
Myself for example, I gained a good amount of mass this year and at this pace I will be a few pounds lighter than I was onstage last year. Weight means nothing because being ripped give the illusion of being much much bigger and muscular thant the other guys
It just hit me hard after seein Jenny win the Jr USA and seeing some winners at area NPC shows, that for most of us serious lifters,the enemy is body fat more than sheer mass.
When I am around 205 -210 lbs , I can compete in a bodybuilding contest by dropping a few lbs and ripping up.
The bigger size sounds good , but is useless unless I can diet back down and get lean.
I am even better off in a bench meet at a lighter wt, ya know the lb for lb deal.
Plus, at 250 my knees and low back hurt when I run. Other than passing gas and cleaning up at the buffet I am pretty useless at this wt ;D
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Plus, at 250 my knees and low back hurt when I run. Other than passing gas and cleaning up at the buffet I am pretty useless at this wt ;D
250 really isn't a healthy weight whether you're muscular or not.
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Great thread Howard !
Yes I believe people focus too much on bodyweight and not enought on condition.
It's incredible the difference between 4 and 5 % BF, as you get leaner even 2-3 pounds leaner makes HUGE difference on skin tickness.
Myself for example, I gained a good amount of mass this year and at this pace I will be a few pounds lighter than I was onstage last year. Weight means nothing because being ripped give the illusion of being much much bigger and muscular thant the other guys
AND U LOOK GOOD ..and as time goes on your young u will fill out,but there is always a buzzkill ,u could be in sick condition ,skinnned to the bone,hard,and to achieve it u have to bust your hump,and u could be in loose shirt or long sleeve and cause it cant be seen ,some ahole who only knows what a magazine pro looks like on a f'in picture will 9/10 times say u don't look that big.
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If anyone has been training for years and years,yet has no abs, or hasn`t seen his dick in ages,just in an effort to weigh more and look bigger in the supermaket,then that person is not bodybuilding,he is just lifting and eating.
Some people train,others merely workout.
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realistically netiher of these alternatives apply for most getbiggers - change for skinnyfat and permabulker
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Howard, I think a lot of kids start bodybuilding weighing 150-160 lbs or less, and at that weight size is and should be a priority. But then they get up to 200 or so, and instead of shifting gears and focusing on achieving and maintaining low bodyfat, they keep going with the "size" thing and just end up looking like bloated pigs. I'm sure that's Squadfather's and other perma-bulkers' deal.
Exactly what I did. Got up to about 235 but did not look that good. Just don't have the genetics to carry that kind of mass. Cut way back on juice and eating much better now. Only about 210 but people tell me how much better I look these days.
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I have to agree, especially as we get older. At least for me, it just doesn't seem practical to put on any more size without messing with my stomach, so I'd much rather continue to refine what I have and let my bodyweight fall where it may based on healthy eating and regular training.
I've never competed, but have been working out (naturally) for roughly the past 20 years (I'm 35 now). At 5'9", my highest bodyweight has been about 215, with a 34"+ waist. For the past six months+ I've made the concerted effort to eat cleaner (not really a diet, just cut out as much saturated fat as possible and cut down on red meat as much as possible) all the time, rather than just to get ready for the summers. With that simple change, my body seems to have settled around 197 at present, with a 32" waist. I feel much better and don't look bloated any more. I suspect at the most I'll stabilize at the low 190's and try to maintain there, just continuing to eat well and train hard and continue to improve my muscularity. It seems like the intelligent thing to do for long term health and looks. I never really cared too much for training for strength anyway and particularly not so as I've gotten older and have had to be more careful with things like my back and joints...
I do think there's something to the idea that immaturity and lack of experience leads one to take the route of size (and strength) at all costs. I know for the longest time when my bodyweight was in the 160's, then in the 180's, I looked at crossing the 200lb mark as my holy grail. Since I crossed that long ago, it doesn't really seem all that important of a target anymore...
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I have to agree, especially as we get older. At least for me, it just doesn't seem practical to put on any more size without messing with my stomach, so I'd much rather continue to refine what I have and let my bodyweight fall where it may based on healthy eating and regular training.
I've never competed, but have been working out (naturally) for roughly the past 20 years (I'm 35 now). At 5'9", my highest bodyweight has been about 215, with a 34"+ waist. For the past six months+ I've made the concerted effort to eat cleaner (not really a diet, just cut out as much saturated fat as possible and cut down on red meat as much as possible) all the time, rather than just to get ready for the summers. With that simple change, my body seems to have settled around 197 at present, with a 32" waist. I feel much better and don't look bloated any more. I suspect at the most I'll stabilize at the low 190's and try to maintain there, just continuing to eat well and train hard and continue to improve my muscularity. It seems like the intelligent thing to do for long term health and looks. I never really cared too much for training for strength anyway and particularly not so as I've gotten older and have had to be more careful with things like my back and joints...
I do think there's something to the idea that immaturity and lack of experience leads one to take the route of size (and strength) at all costs. I know for the longest time when my bodyweight was in the 160's, then in the 180's, I looked at crossing the 200lb mark as my holy grail. Since I crossed that long ago, it doesn't really seem all that important of a target anymore...
Ya know, even an extreme juicer will hit a point where additional mass is not going happen to any major degree.
I can really identify with your reply here.I want to drop back down around 206 and be in striking range to compete.
The extra wt I now have to be a BIGGER-better bodybuilder is the ONE thing that prevents me from doing an actual bodybuilding contest.
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you should do it Howard, just for fun without having the pressure of getting ready for a show
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you should do it Howard, just for fun without having the pressure of getting ready for a show
The lack of any pressure from a contest date is what PREVENTS me from dieting LOL.
Sometimes you need a lil' kick in the kiester to get ya going. ;D
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Lean look makes more sense but can takes more discipline. It just looks better, more appealing. That becomes even more obvious with some age.
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Lean look makes more sense but can takes more discipline. It just looks better, more appealing. That becomes even more obvious with some age.
Ya had to put in "obvious with some age" thing in there didn't ya...thanks :(
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sounds to me you guys are just making excuses
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Ya had to put in "obvious with some age" thing in there didn't ya...thanks :(
Calm down i wasn't referring to your shortcomings in particular, ya lunkhead.
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Calm down i wasn't referring to your shortcomings in particular, ya lunkhead.
Oh I know that LOL. O couldn't resist cracking on MYSELF hehehe.
Young guys tend to need size and stay leaner , after 30 ( if you have been lifting a few yrs) the trend reverses. At 49, I really, REALY need to reverse it.
I can say, I enjoyed a lot of the trips and stuff I have done over the last decade. When I competed , I missed out on some cool stuff.
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Oh I know that LOL. O couldn't resist cracking on MYSELF hehehe.
Young guys tend to need size and stay leaner , after 30 ( if you have been lifting a few yrs) the trend reverses. At 49, I really, REALY need to reverse it.
Ya, and trying to lift too heavy as part of the bulking thing also usually doesn't work with age.
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Ya, and trying to lift too heavy as part of the bulking thing also usually doesn't work with age.
I sincerely feel you are 100% right, unless you want to be a serious powerlifter , far better to back off the wt and get lean. The babes like it better anyway.
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Oh I know that LOL. O couldn't resist cracking on MYSELF hehehe.
Young guys tend to need size and stay leaner , after 30 ( if you have been lifting a few yrs) the trend reverses. At 49, I really, REALY need to reverse it.
I can say, I enjoyed a lot of the trips and stuff I have done over the last decade. When I competed , I missed out on some cool stuff.
Definitely, I couldn't agree more. I fell into the trap of permabulking and in the end I ended up feelings horrible. The strength gains are addictive but eventually father time catches up with you. I am going to be 31 in a couple of weeks and I realize that my metabolism has slowed down and that if I don't change my ways then I am setting myself up for years of poor health. I lost about 25 pounds of fat in the last four and a half months and I feel great.
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Definitely, I couldn't agree more. I fell into the trap of permabulking and in the end I ended up feelings horrible. The strength gains are addictive but eventually father time catches up with you. I am going to be 31 in a couple of weeks and I realize that my metabolism has slowed down and that if I don't change my ways then I am setting myself up for years of poor health. I lost about 25 pounds of fat in the last four and a half months and I feel great.
Sounds like a success story. What kind of diet did you follow? Just curious, thanks
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The strength gains are addictive but eventually father time catches up with you. I am going to be 31 in a couple of weeks and I realize that my metabolism has slowed down and that if I don't change my ways then I am setting myself up for years of poor health.
The strength gains are addictive, as is the looser diet. But for looking good and being a chick magnet, lean is the only way to go, they could care less about big and bulkier with a few exceptions who like "football types".
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tell us more about your life as a chick magnet pumpster, do you take the chicks home to your luxurious apartment? or do they prefer a little more room, say the dumpster in the alley? :D
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The strength gains are addictive, as is the looser diet. But for looking good and being a chick magnet, lean is the only way to go, they could care less about big and bulkier with a few exceptions who like "football types".
Back in 1993, I got down to a really ripped 188 and was able to win an AAU Mr Louisiana, get 3rd in my age group in the 100 m ran 11.4 ( La Games), and ran in several 5k/10 k races.
Now I am too bulky to run without joint pain and I can't get in a contest, etc.
The extra bulk is useless LOL.
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Sounds like a success story. What kind of diet did you follow? Just curious, thanks
Essentially I have been cycling my carbs and combine that with low intensity cardio three to four days a week. My cardio lasts from 45-60 minutes but the intensity is very low. My heart rate rarely goes above 120-130bpm. I like this approach because it isn't a drastic jolt to my body and I don't feel my strength levels plummeting like in the past when I have implemented hyper intense cardio nor do I become so drained that I can't keep up my regiment. Burn out is a killer to any regiment. Plus in the summers I can walk outside. I live in Michigan so that is a rare treat as winters suck. I realize a negative to this approach is that it might take me longer to lose weight but the upside is that hopefully I will retain more muscle. Really I just want to live a healthy and active lifestyle. My dad also died at 54 of a heart attack and that is definitely a motivator to become healthier.
Also, I have changed the type of foods I am buying, opting for organic foods. I have also introduced healthy fats, antioxidants and vitamins to my supplement regiment.
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Essentially I have been cycling my carbs and combine that with low intensity cardio three to four days a week. My cardio lasts from 45-60 minutes but the intensity is very low. My heart rate rarely goes above 120-130bpm. I like this approach because it isn't a drastic jolt to my body and I don't feel my strength levels plummeting like in the past when I have implemented hyper intense cardio nor do I become so drained that I can't keep up my regiment. Burn out is a killer to any regiment. Plus in the summers I can walk outside. I live in Michigan so that is a rare treat as winters suck. I realize a negative to this approach is that it might take me longer to lose weight but the upside is that hopefully I will retain more muscle. Really I just want to live a healthy and active lifestyle. My dad also died at 54 of a heart attack and that is definitely a motivator to become healthier.
Also, I have changed the type of foods I am buying, opting for organic foods. I have also introduced healthy fats, antioxidants and vitamins to my supplement regiment.
I have akso started eating more organic stuff and thinking of overall health and nutrition more than just getting in protein by the shovel full.
Howard
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shut up howie maybe you are fine with mediocrity, yet some of us will strive for perfection no matter what the cost or how unlikely it is
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shut up howie maybe you are fine with mediocrity, yet some of us will strive for perfection no matter what the cost or how unlikely it is
yes im glad im not the only one that notice their endless number of excuses!!
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to me nothing beat this. not one other guy or one other photo will look my ideal to me than this. as GH15 says this is simply as good it gets
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tell us more about your life as a chick magnet pumpster, do you take the chicks home to your luxurious apartment? or do they prefer a little more room, say the dumpster in the alley? :D
U my little troll, have far more stories to share of trysts with young boyz. Get to it.. :-*
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U have far more stories to share, with young boyz. Get to it.. :-*
there's no such stories, but there's stories about you and transvestites, care to talk about it ;D
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there's no such stories, but there's stories about you and transvestites, care to talk about it ;D
If you've been with a woman, we're all ears troll. Your silence on this will speak volumes.;D
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yes im glad im not the only one that notice their endless number of excuses!!
Waiting for your positive contributions here troll.
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If you've been with a woman, we're all ears troll. Your silence on this will speak volumes.;D
huh i've talked about it numerous times, on the y board and other places
all i ever heard about you is your love for transvestites with captures being posted confirming it :(
apparantely you're a chick magnet, thats what you say in this thread ::)
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huh i've talked about it numerous times, on the y board and other places
all i ever heard about you is your love for transvestites with captures being posted confirming it :(
apparantely you're a chick magnet, thats what you say in this thread ::)
Actually i didn't claim that you inferred it because you're impressed hahahaahh
Still waiting for your lengthy dissertations on your upcoming first lay, or a link on your spiritual home on the Z...remember blockhead, your silence speakers volumes. :-* :-* :-*
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if i remember blockhead or are you talking TO blockhead? you dont make much sense
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if i remember blockhead or are you talking TO blockhead? you dont make much sense
Your first lay with the whore, get to it..inquiring mind wanna know, since you're desperate to hijack this thread lol
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shut up howie maybe you are fine with mediocrity, yet some of us will strive for perfection no matter what the cost or how unlikely it is
Finding balance and being happy and healthy is the big success.
I have seen more guys get all hardocre and try to be the next Mr Olympia. Almost every one of them ends up frustrated, unhappy and with some problems to deal with, etc. Nobody is saying you need to settle for being just ho hum avg. Look at Jenny, she just won the Jr USA!
Far better to prefect your physique on your own individual terms and not be made a slave to some established abitrary standard. Living a happy productive life by your own standards is real success.
Howard
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Easy.
Lean,Healthy,asthetic,big and bulky.
Thats what i try to do and my goal is near.
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Easy.
Lean,Healthy,asthetic,big and bulky.
Thats what i try to do and my goal is near.
dont forget tall
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Easy.
Lean,Healthy,asthetic,big and bulky.
Thats what i try to do and my goal is near.
Great V taper, just need to try and peak those biceps a bit more and you will be impressive
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too bad biceps cant be peaked
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Far better to prefect your physique on your own individual terms and not be made a slave to some established abitrary standard. Living a happy productive life by your own standards is real success.
Howard
Just do the above Howard.
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I didn't read everything but just to point out not everyone can have suburb shape, quality, cuts etc. at a young age, it takes a lot of time.
One thing you can have when you are young is a lot of mass, which yes looks much better when refined but that takes years and years.
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dont forget tall
I am 171cm and That is the average of Spain and Japan male.
So I am not short nor tall. ;)
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I didn't read everything but just to point out not everyone can have suburb shape, quality, cuts etc. at a young age, it takes a lot of time.
One thing you can have when you are young is a lot of mass, which yes looks much better when refined but that takes years and years.
suburb shape is the best. ::) ::)
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WTF is suburb shape by the way? Does this mean looking like the guy mowing his lawn as his only monthly exercise?
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We have to avoid the word superb shape. Just saying % of BF is better.
Everyone has his superb shape. Maybe under 3% of BF is superb shape for Paco Bautista.
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WTF is suburb shape by the way? Does this mean looking like the guy mowing his lawn as his only monthly exercise?
;D ;D ;D
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Chics loved the first picture look and were indiff at the 2nd
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I'll take big, juiced, and bulky. :D
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I'll take big, juiced, and bulky. :D
you are disgusting ;D
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Chics loved the first picture look and were indiff at the 2nd
How much heavier from 1st to 2nd?
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I didn't read everything but just to point out not everyone can have suburb shape, quality, cuts etc. at a young age, it takes a lot of time.
One thing you can have when you are young is a lot of mass, which yes looks much better when refined but that takes years and years.
I will have to disagree with you on this. Yes, your overall shape and look is genetic, but, to maximize what you do have with a sound diet, low body fat, etc is a matter of training and discipline.
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How much heavier from 1st to 2nd?
17 kg
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17 kg
15kg of water
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15kg of water
exactly.
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15kg of water
What do you mean only 2 kg of fat?
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What do you mean only 2 kg of fat?
;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D
Then his contest prep is easy. ;D
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17 kg
Sa-mi bagi mana-n cur si sa-mi faci laba la cacat. Shampona-mi-ai flocii cu saliva. Spala-te pe dinti ca vin cu pula in inspectie. Usca-mi-as sosetele pe crucea ma`tii. Futu-tzi coliva ma~tii. ;D
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i just cant organize myself to lean up as of late.. plus its fucking cold and i have shin splints, two good reasons not to go for a run >:(
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15kg of water
so much water so little time
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I'll take big, juiced, and bulky. :D
alex23 is cute and he is pretty big, juiced on occassion, and he is bulky. He is even cutier with a hat on.........
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alex23 is cute and he is pretty big, juiced on occassion, and he is bulky. He is even cutier with a hat on.........
No, he is a fat American with a perm.
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no matter what distorsion people have of how the body should look i can guaren-fucking-tee you looking normal and ripped (http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ESP/ESP008/handsome-male-model-posing-~-2055-200125-01.jpg)will get you 10 times more pussy than looking like a big meat head (http://lengsok.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/103727main_bodybuilder.jpg)
Looking bigger might give you more respect with fellow men, but fuck, who gives a shit what another man thinks. You just wanna be able to walk into anyroom and leave with the hottest chick/chicks. I really dont care if the guy in baggy gym pants can bench 10 or 100kgs more than me as long as i get ass
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no matter what distorsion people have of how the body should look i can guaren-fucking-tee you looking normal and ripped (http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ESP/ESP008/handsome-male-model-posing-~-2055-200125-01.jpg)will get you 10 times more pussy than looking like a big meat head (http://lengsok.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/103727main_bodybuilder.jpg)
Looking bigger might give you more respect with fellow men, but fuck, who gives a shit what another man thinks. You just wanna be able to walk into anyroom and leave with the hottest chick/chicks. I really dont care if the guy in baggy gym pants can bench 10 or 100kgs more than me as long as i get ass
Typical loser who cant get big muscle and coming to BBing forum and bitching.
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Maybe he's just happy with what is real Kyomu, obviously he still likes working out and keeping what muscle he has! kind of like me.. :'(
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For most of us, I think we end up trying to get too big and end up just looking big and bulky.
At many regional and state level NPC shows, the best bodybuilders on stage are often those with lighter body wts. In my case , I looked at LOT better as a LT HVY, then I do at heavier body wts.
My present body wt and ( fat) bulky body is pretty useless overall for bodybuilding contests.
I might look BIGGER in clothes but I am worse as a bodybuilder. My 20" arms are big but they lack the cuts needed to be impressive.
In my humble opinion, most bodybuilders would be a lot better off ,if they opted for a quality physique and didn't do extreme level of drugs in search of a pro level body that won't ever happn anyway (99.9%).
I see endless ads for supplements and potions that promise to build more mass. I hear of countless drugs to gain more mass. Like many in our sport, I have bought into that kind of thinking and it has done little for me. Unless I diet down, get a lot leaner and lose body wt, I can't be competetive as a bodybuilder.
At some point, you stop thinking about building a better physique and focus only on getting bigger.
Howard
Sorry, but you are the one looking juiced and bulky.
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Maybe he's just happy with what is real Kyomu, obviously he still likes working out and keeping what muscle he has! kind of like me.. :'(
I dont think so.
A happy person will never bitch about other taste person.
Today I was with Paco Bautista(My trainer now..) and i respect him as a pro bodybuilder despite of my being natutral BBer.
And I will never bitch about pro even i am a skinny natural bber. Cus I am happy with it honestly.
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Looking bigger might give you more respect with fellow men, but fuck, who gives a shit what another man thinks.
if the men respect you the women will want you
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so much water so little time
Hard to fathom anyone more in love with himself than this geek, maybe bluto.
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Big, juiced and bulky
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I'm gonna say lightly juiced, big and cut... I've been up to a juiced 270 and down to a 225 when off, for me the ideal is around 245 with very light cycle, I don't look overly scary or bloated but still have enough mass and muscle that I'm happy with and still athletic enough to do kick boxing , boxing, etc.
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Howie and another Drug thread sort of like Milos selling something or Basile talking to the DEA.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm