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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&q=1995+olympia&ei=Pg43SOWPBJjiiQKJ393dAw
Seriously guys, if you cant see that Dorian wins in this video then you're just delusional
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Note at the 6 minute marker, best side tricep pose in history
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Note at the 6 minute marker, best side tricep pose in history
Not the best in history, no. Didn't have the sheer size and cuts of DeMayo or the size of Bertil.
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Not the best in history, no. Didn't have the sheer size and cuts of DeMayo or the size of Bertil.
DeMayo looked like a kid compared to Dorian, Bertil on the other hand could not match the size and conditioning of Dorian (on arms yes ofcourse, the rest no). Its the whole body thats being judged in the side tricep pose, not just the tricep.
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I disagree. The video doesn't even have very good resolution. Here are some better resolution comparisons from 95.
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Wow, all front pics. What an unbiased post.
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Anyone who thinks 1995 Mr Olympia was anyone other than Dorian Yates does not know about competitive bodybuilding how its judged and what they're looking at period. end of sentence
1995 was one of the most dominate wins of any Olympia winner ever .
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Wow, all front pics. What an unbiased post.
I admit Dorian was better than Nasser from the back, but that hardly makes up for how much he lags in comparison in all other bodyparts.
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Not the best in history, no. Didn't have the sheer size and cuts of DeMayo or the size of Bertil.
lmfao Bertil Fox was lucky if he was 200 pounds and Demayo was at the 1995 Mr Olympia his only Olympia appearance and where did he place again? yeah I thought so ;)
Bertil Fox had great triceps did Bertil Fox have a better side triceps pose? you're out of your mind if you think so
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Anyone who thinks 1995 Mr Olympia was anyone other than Dorian Yates does not know about competitive bodybuilding how its judged and what they're looking at period. end of sentence
1995 was one of the most dominate wins of any Olympia winner ever .
Maybe not many people actually care about how competitive bodybuilding is judged; they care more about who actually looks better.
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I admit Dorian was better than Nasser from the back, but that hardly makes up for how much he lags in comparison in all bodyparts.
1995 Dorian was better than Nasser front , back , side , upside down and rightside up . Nasser was demoralized in 1995 like everyone else ! 1997 a different story 1995 Nasser was crushed
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1995 was his best year by far. Now, Find a video of 1994, 1996 and 1997. He had his fat, bloated ass handed to him by Ray in 1994 and by Nasser in 1997. Dorian peaked 3 times during his Olympia reign.
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Maybe not many people actually care about how competitive bodybuilding is judged; they care more about who actually looks better.
hence why contests are NOT judged by fans ;) there is a set of criteria contests are judged by and Dorian is that criteria.
and the reason you stated is exactly why people like you think it was possible for Nasser to beat Dorian lol when in reality Yates stands alone as usual.
1997 Nasser looked better in the front double biceps shot and perhaps matched and even bested Dorian in the ab-thigh and thats it 1995 Nasser ( and everyone else ) loses , every single pose from every single angle.
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1995 was his best year by far. Now, Find a video of 1994, 1996 and 1997. He had his fat, bloated ass handed to him by Ray in 1994 and by Nasser in 1997. Dorian peaked 3 times during his Olympia reign.
yawn 1994 & 1996 were clear victories for Yates 1997 he shouldn't have won with perfect scores but again he beat Nasser
205 pound Shawn beating a 262 pound Dorian lol thats funny
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hence why contests are NOT judged by fans ;)
Fans don't assess contests based on politics, friendships, dick-sucking, etc. as do IFBB judges. Hope this helps.
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Slight change of topic doesn't Levrone's arm look weird here?
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Fans don't assess contests based on politics, friendships, dick-sucking, etc. as do IFBB judges. Hope this helps.
LOL ;D
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Fans don't assess contests based on politics, friendships, dick-sucking, etc. as do IFBB judges. Hope this helps.
fans base contests on preference , bias , ignorance and stupidity and you're a typical fan.
1995 was like 1993 just another Yates clinic on competitive bodybuilding , I recall Nasser kissing Dorian's ass that year on how much better he looked compared to 1994 and how he was a deserving winner ( stating the obvious )
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Slight change of topic doesn't Levrone's arm look weird here?
He always had long biceps muscles.
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fans base contests on preference , bias , ignorance and stupidity and you're a typical fan.
Yes, only someone who is "ignorant and stupid" would think that the tighter physique on the right looks better than the bloated one on the left:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=253912;image) ::)
1995 was like 1993 just another Yates clinic on competitive bodybuilding , I recall Nasser kissing Dorian's ass that year on how much better he looked compared to 1994 and how he was a deserving winner ( stating the obvious )
Nasser during his competitive days was very humble and politically correct, even if it meant not being honest.
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Yes, only someone who is "ignorant and stupid" would think that the tighter physique on the right looks better than the bloated one on the left:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=253912;image) ::)
Nasser during his competitive days was very humble and politically correct, even if it meant not being honest.
Yes, only someone who is "ignorant and stupid" would think that the tighter physique on the right looks better than the bloated one on the left:
the fact you think Nasser is ' tighter ' than Yates proves my point. thank you. and I laughed out loud when you typed ' bloated ' Yates 1995 is anything but bloated he's the epitome of conditioned mass . your bias prevents you from learning I was like that once until I learn how contests are judged I was dumbfounded in 1993 when Dorian beat Flex Wheeler I for the life of me couldn't figure out how but then I learned ;)
Nasser during his competitive days was very humble and politically correct, even if it meant not being honest.
nice spin ( not ) funny what Nasser said coincides with the reality of the matter , Dorian did look better than 1994 and he was a deserving winner , looks like Nasser was being honest. ;)
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Slight change of topic doesn't Levrone's arm look weird here?
why? in what way?
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Yes, only someone who is "ignorant and stupid" would think that the tighter physique on the right looks better than the bloated one on the left:
Come on now. Dorian was definitely ON that day. His best showing minus the bicep. I remember watching the 95 predjudging and when Dorian was called out it was over right there in my mind. Only problem was the torn bicep - should he be judged down due to it?
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I admit Dorian was better than Nasser from the back, but that hardly makes up for how much he lags in comparison in all other bodyparts.
You are delusional. Dorian takes the front lat spread and arguably the abs-and-thighs from the front. From the sides, he easily takes the side triceps and side chest. Add to that his dominace in the rear lat spread and back double biceps, and what's left for Nasser? The front double biceps and that's it. Face it, dude: Dorian crushed Nasser and everyone else in 1995. It wasn't even close. Not even by a long shot.
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You are delusional. Dorian takes the front lat spread and arguably the abs-and-thighs from the front. From the sides, he easily takes the side triceps and side chest. Add to that his dominace in the rear lat spread and back double biceps, and what's left for Nasser? The front double biceps and that's it. Face it, dude: Dorian crushed Nasser and everyone else in 1995. It wasn't even close. Not even by a long shot.
Can you show pics from the side where Dorian apparently beats Nasser to support your argument?
There is a front lat spread comparison I posted above, and Nasser looks better and harder there - you can even see his abs.
Also, when I compare Nasser vs. Yates I'm not only discussing judging critieria (which largely includes politics) or the "mandatory" poses but just who looks better in general, and most pics indicate Nasser does.
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Such passion for a contest that took place 13 years ago. :)
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Such passion for a contest that took place 13 years ago. :)
That's because there are no longer the likes of the 95-98 top Olympia contenders on today's stages :-\
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Can you show pics from the side where Dorian apparently beats Nasser to support your argument?
Are you saying that Nasser had a better side triceps than Dorian? Wtf?! As for the side chest, it might be closer, but Dorian has thicker pecs, better calves and comparable quads. No wonder all the 12 judges unanimously gave this mandatory to Dorian.
There is a front lat spread comparison I posted above, and Nasser looks better and harder there - you can even see his abs.
How can you have a better front lat spread with inferior lats? Delusional. This is not up for debate: Dorian crushed Nasser. And bloated? Please...Dorian made Nasser look like marshmellow.
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Front the front, both competitors, Nasser and Yates held their own, apples and oranges....Could debate till the end of time on who was better from the front...When they turn around? Lights out for Nasser....So considering they were both great from the front, and that Dorian looked way better from the back...The winner is very apparent....The most complete body wins....One missing bicep is nothing compared to a missing back....
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How can you have a better front lat spread with inferior lats? Delusional.
Because there are lot more bodyparts showcased in that pose than the lats alone. That's like saying Nasser had a better rear double biceps pose because he had better biceps.
This is not up for debate: Dorian crushed Nasser. And bloated? Please...Dorian made Nasser look like marshmellow.
Not in the pics posted. Dont make me have to post 97 Yates pics to show his bloated waist. Even in 95 (look at the relaxed pic on the prevoius page, Dorian's waist looks bloated compared to Nasser's.
Are you saying that Nasser had a better side triceps than Dorian? Wtf?!
Yes.
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Dorian was untouchable during his reign, and yes, 1997 included.
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I was there..I had Nasser ahead until they turned around and then it was all over..Nasser was not nearly as wide.
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Fans don't assess contests based on politics, friendships, dick-sucking, etc. as do IFBB judges. Hope this helps.
amen to that.
Nasser owned dorian from the front that year and every year.
ND is just bitter because yet another bodybuilder owns his hero from the front...
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Can you show pics from the side where Dorian apparently beats Nasser to support your argument?
There is a front lat spread comparison I posted above, and Nasser looks better and harder there - you can even see his abs.
Also, when I compare Nasser vs. Yates I'm not only discussing judging critieria (which largely includes politics) or the "mandatory" poses but just who looks better in general, and most pics indicate Nasser does.
The judging criteria isn't largely ' politics ' its a set mandate on what judges look for in each pose and that criteria is muscular bulk , balanced development , muscle density , muscle dryness , posing & presentation and FYI all rounds are physique rounds meaning ALL of that criteria is applied at every single moment and while some guys may meet part of that criteria better it doesn't matter because its the one who meets MOST of that criteria who wins and that is Dorian Yates
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meaning ALL of that criteria is applied at every single moment
in other words, dorian gets owned most of the time, but in one or two shots he is better..LOL
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amen to that.
Nasser owned dorian from the front that year and every year.
ND is just bitter because yet another bodybuilder owns his hero from the front...
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Bitter? lol Dorian has among the best ab-thigh & front latspreads in the history of the sport , leaps & bounds better than Ronnie or Nasser and NO ONE and I mean no one touched Yates 1995 Ronnie would be lucky nevrmind no-back Nasser
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Bitter? lol Dorian has among the best ab-thigh & front latspreads in the history of the sport , leaps & bounds better than Ronnie or Nasser and NO ONE and I mean no one touched Yates 1995 Ronnie would be lucky nevrmind no-back Nasser
pics mean nothing remember?
LOL
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you are sad.
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in other words, dorian gets owned most of the time, but in one or two shots he is better..LOL
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No he doesn't he almost corner's the market in ALL poses all rounds are physique rounds Hulkster you'd know that if you knew bodybuilding. ;)
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just for the record, not to start anything but the 99 olympia prejudging video of Ronnie is a hell of a lot more impressive than dorian was there.
just saying..
:P 8)
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dorian is lucky Nasser didn't have a particularly great back
but he still gets his ass kicked from the front.
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pics mean nothing remember?
LOL
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you are sad.
typical Hulkster NO pictures don't mean anything compared to actually being there ;) pics are almost useless for ascertaining a person's level of density & dryness which is why trusted eyewitness words carry more weight than any ' opinion ' you may try and formulate
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typical Hulkster NO pictures don't mean anything compared to actually being there ;) pics are almost useless for ascertaining a person's level of density & dryness which is why trusted eyewitness words carry more weight than any ' opinion ' you may try and formulate
funny how ND has this opinion given that there is a 1600+ page thread of peak Ronnie owning dorian in pics and videos, and hundreds of pics of other bodybuilders like Shawn (94) and Nasser (95/97) owning him also..
why am I not surprised?...
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funny how ND has this opinion given that there is a 1600+ page thread of peak Ronnie owning dorian in pics and videos, and hundreds of pics of other bodybuilders like Shawn (94) and Nasser (95/97) owning him also..
why am I not surprised?...
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Again you're a typical ignorant biased fan judging pictures on your preferences which is ok but please don't act like you know anything about competitive bodybuilding because I will correct you as usual . ;)
Dorian was untouchable even at his worse.
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just for the record, not to start anything but the 99 olympia prejudging video of Ronnie is a hell of a lot more impressive than dorian was there.
just saying..
:P 8)
And I'm sure you believe that lol Dorian is harder & drier than Ronnie 99 , he has better balance & proportion than Ronnie 99 , oh he's a better poser and depending on the year Dorian also carries more muscular bulk , hey that sounds like all the judging criteria lol
see all rounds are physique rounds , see Ronnie 99 getting his ass kicked by Dorian again ;)
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Yates just schooling Nasser in a textbook 1/4 turn
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95 was a levrOWNING
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dorian made a career out of being owned by his competition..
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No he doesn't he almost corner's the market in ALL poses all rounds are physique rounds Hulkster you'd know that if you knew bodybuilding. ;)
Haha, Dorianowned.
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Because there are lot more bodyparts showcased in that pose than the lats alone. That's like saying Nasser had a better rear double biceps pose because he had better biceps.
The lats are the most important part in this mandatory. It's called front lat spread, and the bottom line is that Dorian's lats spread wider. And Dorian has him on abs. What else is there to this mandatory? Even in quads Dorian was better than Nasser in 1995.
And bad analogy with the back double biceps, sport. You can't compare the importance of the lats(huge muscle) with that of the biceps(small muscle), so obviously the lats are more important in the fron tlat spread than the biceps are in the back double biceps.
Not in the pics posted. Dont make me have to post 97 Yates pics to show his bloated waist. Even in 95 (look at the relaxed pic on the prevoius page, Dorian's waist looks bloated compared to Nasser's.
Delusional. Dorian's conditioning was miles ahead of Nasser's. Hell, Dorian's conditioning was miles ahead of almost any bodybuilder who's ever competed. Especially in 1995.
Yes.
I guess that ends the debate right there. You are way too biased and delusional to argue with.
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Hell, Dorian's conditioning was miles ahead of almost any bodybuilder who's ever competed. Especially in 1995.
lol
total BULLSHIT:
95 dorian being taught what conditioning really is by the man who took it to the next level, Ronnie Coleman:
countdown to the excuses...5..4...3...2.. .1... ::)
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oops. dorian being taught about conditioning yet again!
so much for his 95 being the best conditioning ever.. :P
don't get me wrong: dorian was insanely well conditioned.
but others have equalled that:
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I disagree. The video doesn't even have very good resolution. Here are some better resolution comparisons from 95.
For fuck sake again? ???
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oops. dorian being taught about conditioning yet again!
so much for his 95 being the best conditioning ever.. :P
don't get me wrong: dorian was insanely well conditioned.
but others have equalled that:
lmfao at others equaled it just like your post that Ronnie was more grainy than Dorian lol what do you know again?
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Thin skin is pretty hard to see on a competitor, its far easier to see tie-ins, striations and muscle seperation for example.
This is why Dorians conditioning is underappreciated, its because it takes a keen eye to really see his dryness. Someone who had knowledge would say for example that Kevin Levrone looked soft compared to Yates, they all did.
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lol
total BULLSHIT:
95 dorian being taught what conditioning really is by the man who took it to the next level, Ronnie Coleman:
countdown to the excuses...5..4...3...2.. .1... ::)
Its just so easy to correct
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
" he was never drier or harder than Dorian. "
" on the subject of conditioning, NO-ONE did it better than Dorian. "
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lmfao at others equaled it just like your post that Ronnie was more grainy than Dorian lol what do you know again?
yeah, how funny my post is:
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95 dorian being equalled by Ronnie and from the BACK no less: dorian had more detail in the upper traps, but thats it. and he had far less detail from the front.
ND you are ridiculous.
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Thin skin is pretty hard to see on a competitor, its far easier to see tie-ins, striations and muscle seperation for example.
This is why Dorians conditioning is underappreciated, its because it takes a keen eye to really see his dryness. Someone who had knowledge would say for example that Kevin Levrone looked soft compared to Yates, they all did.
You my friend know what you're talking about ! give this man a cigar. dead right on the money.
thank you.
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its because it takes a keen eye to really see his dryness
more like it takes a keen eye to really see what was so special about dorian... :-\
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more like it takes a keen eye to really see what was so special about dorian... :-\
. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
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. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
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convenient excuse..
it applied to everyone else too you know.. not just dorian yates
next.
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yeah, how funny my post is:
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95 dorian being equalled by Ronnie and from the BACK no less: dorian had more detail in the upper traps, but thats it. and he had far less detail from the front.
ND you are ridiculous.
In that back comparison Dorian's back is bigger and is in better condition....The guy has striations all over.
Ronnies although has a better V-taper condition is inferior but his arms are better.
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the thing with dorian's back (and this is focused in on the video) is how it really flattens out when he his the rear double bi.
Ronnie's is much thicker and appears a little wider due to his equal lat width but smaller waist (ie superior taper).
they were very close in the back, with the slight edge going to ronnie (even McGough agrees taht Ronnie had the greatest back of all time, but no doubt ND will ignore this particluar McGough quote LOL ::))
but like lots of other bodybuilders, Ronnie owns dorian from the front side. 8)
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the thing with dorian's back (and this is focused in on the video) is how it really flattens out when he his the rear double bi.
Ronnie's is much thicker and appears a little wider due to his equal lat width but smaller waist (ie superior taper).
they were very close in the back, with the slight edge going to ronnie (even McGough agrees taht Ronnie had the greatest back of all time, but no doubt ND will ignore this particluar McGough quote LOL ::))
but like lots of other bodybuilders, Ronnie owns dorian from the front side. 8)
Oh you like McGough's quotes when the suit your purpose ;) hypocrite they actually weren't close in back regardless of what people say , Dorian's lats are wider and insert LOWER his spinal erectors are leaps & bounds better , his traps are thicker , his lower lats are striated in a man Ronnie can't touch , Yates has em on back and in 2003 Ronnie said Dorian had the thickest Freaikest back he ever seen ;)
I almost spit my Dasani out when I read Ronnie owns Dorian from the side lol man thats another keeper.
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Anyone who thinks 1995 Mr Olympia was anyone other than Dorian Yates does not know about competitive bodybuilding how its judged and what they're looking at period. end of sentence
1995 was one of the most dominate wins of any Olympia winner ever .
BINGO! '95 Yates was the best we ever saw of Him. He dominated that show. I was there in the 3rd row, right behind Enrico Baldandini (judge).
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oh and Hulkster Ronnie's back looks thicker ( to you ) because his lats are slightly higher and his waist & hips give him the ILLUSION of greater width ( although depending on the year Ronnie's back is probably as wider or a tad wider , although no where near as hard ) this is a pic of them side-by-side no excuses now and this is 1996 not Yates at his best
its clear Yates lats are way lower and his back is wider although Ronnie is scrunching his together this doesn;t change the fact Yates' back is still lower and has more area it may appear ' flat ' to you but his thickness , density & detail are unrivaled .
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1995 was his best year by far. Now, Find a video of 1994, 1996 and 1997. He had his fat, bloated ass handed to him by Ray in 1994 and by Nasser in 1997. Dorian peaked 3 times during his Olympia reign.
No, 96 Yates was "Spot ON", almost a clone of '95. I agree that "94 & '97 he was off, not '96
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95 was the best we ever saw of Yates conditioning wise - but he still had that torn bi.
pre tear was better by definition - he had both arms back then..
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BINGO! '95 Yates was the best we ever saw of Him. He dominated that show. I was there in the 3rd row, right behind Enrico Baldandini (judge).
Thank you ! another eyewitness puts another nail in hulkster's ignorant coffin.
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oh and Hulkster Ronnie's back looks thicker ( to you ) because his lats are slightly higher and his waist & hips give him the ILLUSION of greater width ( although depending on the year Ronnie's back is probably as wider or a tad wider , although no where near as hard ) this is a pic of them side-by-side no excuses now and this is 1996 not Yates at his best
its clear Yates lats are way lower and his back is wider although Ronnie is scrunching his together this doesn;t change the fact Yates' back is still lower and has more area it may appear ' flat ' to you but his thickness , density & detail are unrivaled .
speaking of being unrivaled, his piss poor arms in that shot are "unrivaled" in their mediocrity. :-\
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No, 96 Yates was "Spot ON", almost a clone of '95. I agree that "94 & '97 he was off, not '96
true, he should have lost in 94 and 97..
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95 was the best we ever saw of Yates conditioning wise - but he still had that torn bi.
pre tear was better by definition - he had both arms back then..
You're arguing over a bicep that was a tad shorter than the other its not like he has two missing calves ;)
93 and 94
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speaking of being unrivaled, his piss poor arms in that shot are "unrivaled" in their mediocrity. :-\
piss poor arms , get serious . biceps OK triceps and forearms AWESOME ;)
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You're arguing over a bicep that was a tad shorter than the other its not like he has two missing calves ;)
93 and 94
a tad shorter makes it look like shit..
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piss poor arms , get serious . biceps OK triceps and forearms AWESOME ;)
i was commenting on the post tear pic oh Retarded One.
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true, he should have lost in 94 and 97..
NOT even Shawn Ray thinks he should have lost in 94 ;) and Nasser was Mr Olympia from the front lol
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that comparison of Fat Bastard and Dorian is the BEST!
hilarious!
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a tad shorter makes it look like shit..
again its a small muscle not his best to begin with you're just looking for excuses to verify your bias.
according to the judges they said it made NO overall difference what so ever . and its true
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NOT even Shawn Ray thinks he should have lost in 94 while under Weider contract - once this was gone his opinion changed quite dramatically) ;) and Nasser was Mr Olympia from the front lol
fixed.
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fixed.
Excuses , excuses. one think Ray wasn't known for was keeping his mouth shut ;)
thanks for the more even damaging proof of how little you know about competitive bodybuilding.
Shawn Ray " Tonight I feel I got the place I deserve "
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See Hulkster what you don't understand is this . All rounds are physique rounds and a guy who has an advantage in ONE part of the criteria is NOT going to beat a guy who has more advantages in ALL of the criteria and what advantage did Shawn actually have anyway? aesthetics? lol seriously have you ever pondered his advantages in the criteria?
Shawn has great conditioning his density & dryness are great , to bad its a clear advantage for Dorian much harder to be 262 pounds and hard & dry than 205 ;) balance & proportion? NO this isn't a strength for Ray he has small high calves in relation to his oversized quads and not to mention his lack of width and he's only 5'7" if he's lucky , whats left? muscular bulk? please , Shawn is a great poser and has great presentation however you must remember ALL rounds are physique rounds so his lack of balance & proportion and muscular bulk and his push in density & dryness and posing & presentation he cannot gain ANY ground on Dorian .
Dorian enjoys advantages Shawn doesn't which is exactly how and why he won.
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Excuses , excuses. one think Ray wasn't known for was keeping his mouth shut ;)
thanks for the more even damaging proof of how little you know about competitive bodybuilding.
Shawn Ray " Tonight I feel I got the place I deserve "
you know nothing about the business world, do you? :-\
here is a hint: once you get out from behind the McDonald's counter, you will find things work a lot differently than you think that they do.
Shawn had a contract to protect - when this was up, he told the world he felt he got screwed.
if you think that is an 'excuse', well, you are just plain naive and ignorant.
sorry. :-\
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Shawn Ray " Tonight I feel I got the place I deserve *(and I am only saying this because Uncle Joe pays my salary and his name is on the contest) "
fixed for the ignorant McWorkers LOL
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you know nothing about the business world, do you? :-\
here is a hint: once you get out from behind the McDonald's counter, you will find things work a lot differently than you think that they do.
Shawn had a contract to protect - when this was up, he told the world he felt he got screwed.
if you think that is an 'excuse', well, you are just plain naive and ignorant.
sorry. :-\
Oh jesus the business world lol Shawn was one of the most outspoken bodybuilders ever ! spare me the nonsense he was scared to comment , Shawn was happy with second place in 1994 because he was BEHIND Levrone after the pre-judging and only bested him in the posing rounds , NEITHER were close to Dorian .
and you reduce yourself with every personal attack lol and I eat that like candy ;)
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fixed for the ignorant McWorkers LOL
Hulkster lets say I do work at McDonalds that doesn't change the FACT I know more about competitive bodybuilding than you do by far . see above for personal attacks lol
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lmfao Bertil Fox was lucky if he was 200 pounds and Demayo was at the 1995 Mr Olympia his only Olympia appearance and where did he place again? yeah I thought so ;)
Bertil Fox had great triceps did Bertil Fox have a better side triceps pose? you're out of your mind if you think so
Sorry, but the lightest Fox ever came in was 215 pounds and that was the 1987 Mr. Olympia and yes, he was very depleted. Judges didn't want Bertil playing the size game, so he starved himself and suffered as a result. He looked best at 230-235 pounds in competition, which is what he competed at in the early 80's. Offseason weight was 260 pounds and he sported a very impressive 22" upper arm, with probably one of the best most muscular poses of all time (circa 1982).
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Dorian was untouchable during his reign, and yes, 1997 included.
hahahaha
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I admit Dorian was better than Nasser from the back, but that hardly makes up for how much he lags in comparison in all other bodyparts.
Unless someone walks backwards most of the time it's not as important lol
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lmfao Bertil Fox was lucky if he was 200 pounds
ROFL another naive, ignorant remark that indicates a lack of knowledge. Fox was not around 200 as someone else mentioned lol. Blows Yates away on triceps size along with pretty good cuts.
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yep, Dorian wins this by far; he's a king among kings
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good video! thanks for posting it
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Not that I give damn about Dorian but Nasser said (in print) that Dorian deserved to win. This was the comp when Nasser and Shawn ray had a war of words due to a misunderstanding.
I'll see if I can find the mag and scan that page. It was either MD or Flex.
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Slight change of topic doesn't Levrone's arm look weird here?
If you look closely, he's rotating his forearm and fist forward, toward the audience, which is a big NO NO when you pose front double biceps. That only flatens out the biceps instead of fully contracting it and make it peak. Simple explanation.D :)
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damn shawn got owned when they said... "shawn back in line nasser get in"... but i admire shawns physique and leverones over anybodys...but dorian did own that show
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Sorry to all the Nasser fans but, he was Owned. Pics are just pics. One guy can be holding tight where the other guy may be relaxing or hasn't tightened quite yet. That's why video or being there is key. Yates dominated the competition that year. Everyone was battling for second place. In the vid shown by the OP, you can see the extra skin on Nasser's stomach around 4:12 in the vid. Cut does not = dry.
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Nasser had a set of the best abs ever in bb. he was huge and his abs were still TUNNELS and TIGHT.
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Hulkster lets say I do work at McDonalds that doesn't change the FACT I know more about competitive bodybuilding than you do by far . see above for personal attacks lol
hahahaha ND works at McDonald's (and it shows badly..)
LOL
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again its a small muscle not his best to begin with you're just looking for excuses to verify your bias.
according to the judges they said it made NO overall difference what so ever . and its true
the fact that the biceps disappear from the back makes no difference? LOL
yeah, great judging McD..
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nasser!!! King Nasser
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According to the people who were there, Nasser was better.
But from the video, look like Dorian is better.
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Sorry to all the Nasser fans but, he was Owned. Pics are just pics. One guy can be holding tight where the other guy may be relaxing or hasn't tightened quite yet. That's why video or being there is key. Yates dominated the competition that year. Everyone was battling for second place. In the vid shown by the OP, you can see the extra skin on Nasser's stomach around 4:12 in the vid. Cut does not = dry.
Don't tell team nasser that, they depend on nasser pictures to jizz on ??? :-X :-[ :'( :P
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According to the people who were there, Nasser was better.
But from the video, look like Dorian is better.
It's exactly the contrary.
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It's exactly the contrary.
My friend was there and told me that.
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Anyone who thinks 1995 Mr Olympia was anyone other than Dorian Yates does not know about competitive bodybuilding how its judged and what they're looking at period. end of sentence
1995 was one of the most dominate wins of any Olympia winner ever .
You ruin your own posts with ignorant blanket statements like that ::)
I agree he was on at the 95 Olympia, I think that was his best conditioning of his entire career, and yes he did own everyone that day. BUT...of his Olympia wins, there is NO WAY IN HELL he should've won either 94 or 97, no matter how much you wanna argue that. I was at the 97 Olympia, I didn't talk to one person that night who thought dorian was the winner :-\
But if you want to talk about "Most dominate" winning...I think the man that many consider to be the greatest bodybuilder to ever live, Ronnie, might've had a few between 98 -03, choose anyone you want ;)
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You ruin your own posts with ignorant blanket statements like that ::)
I agree he was on at the 95 Olympia, I think that was his best conditioning of his entire career, and yes he did own everyone that day. BUT...of his Olympia wins, there is NO WAY IN HELL he should've won either 94 or 97, no matter how much you wanna argue that. I was at the 97 Olympia, I didn't talk to one person that night who thought dorian was the winner :-\
But if you want to talk about "Most dominate" winning...I think the man that many consider to be the greatest bodybuilder to ever live, Ronnie, might've had a few between 98 -03, choose anyone you want ;)
great post!
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Slight change of topic doesn't Levrone's arm look weird here?
How about Dorian's arm? Is that the arm of a Mr. O?
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lmao @ nasser hell of synthol body's front lat spread......
hes tensing his abs...hahha how can u contract the abs and also flair the lats at the same time...
doin well there..... ;)
BTW taylor was lookin amazin that year
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The judging criteria isn't largely ' politics ' its a set mandate on what judges look for in each pose and that criteria is muscular bulk , balanced development , muscle density , muscle dryness , posing & presentation and FYI all rounds are physique rounds meaning ALL of that criteria is applied at every single moment and while some guys may meet part of that criteria better it doesn't matter because its the one who meets MOST of that criteria who wins and that is Dorian Yates
While I normally agree with you on your assessments ND, can't help but think of your first sentence and then think of the 1980,1981,2007 Mr. Olympia's and think of how much politics DID play a LARGE factor in the outcome of those said years..
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lmao @ nasser hell of synthol body's front lat spread......
hes tensing his abs...hahha how can u contract the abs and also flair the lats at the same time...
doin well there..... ;)
Nasser Hell of a Synthol body can't pose for shit, everyone knows that already.
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How about Dorian's arm? Is that the arm of a Mr. O?
Uncle Joe can do anything.. :-X
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Uncle Joe can do anything.. :-X
see 2001/02 for that.
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see 2001/02 for that.
See 1994, 1995, 1996 and 1997 for that. :-X
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If you watch the muscletime pics, Ronnie annihilated Jay at the 2001 Mr. Olympia.
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See 1994, 1995, 1996 and 1997 for that. :-X
Lol, excuse me, but are you jocking? 1995 and 1996 were massacres on the part of Yates over the competition. I was there in 1996 and Dorian destroyed everyone.
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Yates is the biggest fake and phony in the history of the sport. After the black man , Haney, they had to find a whitebread in order to satisfy the mainstream and keep the likes of Wheeler, Ray and Cormier etc.. at bay.
they do not EVER allow two black men to win in a row. look at the histroy : it go black man then always a white and they must always have an American soon after a non-American. this why they defrauded Nasser of his title when he beat the tattooed convicted racist.
problem was that after 93 Yates started to look like such a revolting piece of shit that fans all start noticing this monstrosity was stealing Olympias . how fitting for a former convict
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Everyone picking on Dorian's arm. It's a BB contest not a gun show. You can pick anyone apart. I guess some are just pissed because their "guy" with the torn lat and tri didn't win that year. Or perhaps never one the O at all. :o
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Yates is the biggest fake and phony in the history of the sport. After the black man , Haney, they had to find a whitebread in order to satisfy the mainstream and keep the likes of Wheeler, Ray and Cormier etc.. at bay.
they do not EVER allow two black men to win in a row. look at the histroy : it go black man then always a white and they must always have an American soon after a non-American. this why they defrauded Nasser of his title when he beat the tattooed convicted racist.
problem was that after 93 Yates started to look like such a revolting piece of shit that fans all start noticing this monstrosity was stealing Olympias . how fitting for a former convict
Some moderator please put this troll out of his misery. Please?
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Yates is the biggest fake and phony in the history of the sport. After the black man , Haney, they had to find a whitebread in order to satisfy the mainstream and keep the likes of Wheeler, Ray and Cormier etc.. at bay.
they do not EVER allow two black men to win in a row. look at the histroy : it go black man then always a white and they must always have an American soon after a non-American. this why they defrauded Nasser of his title when he beat the tattooed convicted racist.
problem was that after 93 Yates started to look like such a revolting piece of shit that fans all start noticing this monstrosity was stealing Olympias . how fitting for a former convict
your an idiot. why would they "choose" a guy from england who was pretty much unknown when they had guys like Eddie Robinson or Gary strydom to promote? (both guys could have gotten a huge push before they went to the WBF but didn't, in fact Dorian Buried Eddie who was the IFBB's "golden boy" at the 1990 NOC).
nobody said shit about dorian winning this show at the time, it's all you back seat bozo's coming out with this BS now.
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Nasser Hell of a Synthol body can't pose for shit, everyone knows that already.
Maybe "m8" could teach Nasser some posing lessons, theres still time for a "comeback". ::)
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problem was that after 93 Yates started to look like such a revolting piece of shit that fans all start noticing this monstrosity was stealing Olympias
true, after 93 he went way down hill, in 94 and 96 even Musclemag was very critical of his wins..
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Why would anyone argue that yates shouldn't have won in 95? He dominated in 95. Plain and simple.
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95 was probably the dryest dorian ever was, at 255 pounds I believe. Some guy please verify this.
but I still think 93 was better - pre tear.
that torn bi was glaring post 93.
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While I normally agree with you on your assessments ND, can't help but think of your first sentence and then think of the 1980,1981,2007 Mr. Olympia's and think of how much politics DID play a LARGE factor in the outcome of those said years..
For an instant ND meltdown just bring up Columbu; his answer's the usual gibberish, nothing cogent.
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95 was probably the dryest dorian ever was, at 255 pounds I believe. Some guy please verify this.
but I still think 93 was better - pre tear.
that torn bi was glaring post 93.
260lbs and im not a guy lol
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For an instant ND meltdown just bring up Columbu; he's never been able to come up with a cogent answer.
ND's ass gets handed to him each time he posts period.
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Everyone picking on Dorian's arm. It's a BB contest not a gun show. You can pick anyone apart.
Arms aren't part of a physique, one of the most noticable parts? The bigger the flaws, the eaiser to pick apart.
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problem is, despite ND's naive whining about how the torn bi was 'only a tad shorter' and 'barely noticable" the reality is, nothing could be farther from the truth:
a lot of people have trouble justifying dorian's post tear wins because of shots like this:
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you can sugar coat it all you want, but it still looks horrible.
not knocking dorian, because he continued when he could have quit, an injury is an injury, but this does look really bad.
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You ruin your own posts with ignorant blanket statements like that ::)
I agree he was on at the 95 Olympia, I think that was his best conditioning of his entire career, and yes he did own everyone that day. BUT...of his Olympia wins, there is NO WAY IN HELL he should've won either 94 or 97, no matter how much you wanna argue that. I was at the 97 Olympia, I didn't talk to one person that night who thought dorian was the winner :-\
But if you want to talk about "Most dominate" winning...I think the man that many consider to be the greatest bodybuilder to ever live, Ronnie, might've had a few between 98 -03, choose anyone you want ;)
You agree with everything I say and then say I ruin my posts with ignorant blanket statements? ??? WTF? lol you agree he was the clear winner in 1995 and you agree he owned everyone that day lol am I missing something?
I personally don't think he should have won in 1997 but the judges thought otherwise and a few guys who were in attendance at the 1997 Olympia said Dorian was the clear winner.
1994 was NO contest admittedly Yates was off but still clearly the winner , Shawn Ray himself said he got the place he deserved .
and Ronnie wasn't more dominate than Dorian no way , look at the scorecards for both men over their careers , Ronnie only scored 3 of his 8 Olympia wins with straight firsts over ho-hum competition , Dorian almost received straight firsts in EVERYONE of his Olympia wins with the exception of 1994 were he won one of the posing rounds but it wasn't with a perfect score and his competition was much sharper its no coincidence that Ronnie started beating guys that were past their prime when he faced them , Ray , Dillett , Flex , Levrone ALL looked much sharper when they faced Yates .
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Shawn Ray himself said he got the place he deserved but only while still under a Weider contract.
fixed.
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fixed.
Thats all you have ;) Shawn 205 pound Ray wasn't beating a 262 pound Dorian Yates , the same way Lee 176 pounds Labrada wasn't beating a 249 pound Lee Haney
politics = weak excuse. ;)
Shawn Ray had the option to NOT saying anything about his placing in 1994 ;)
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problem is, despite ND's naive whining about how the torn bi was 'only a tad shorter' and 'barely noticable" the reality is, nothing could be farther from the truth:
a lot of people have trouble justifying dorian's post tear wins because of shots like this:
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you can sugar coat it all you want, but it still looks horrible.
not knocking dorian, because he continued when he could have quit, an injury is an injury, but this does look really bad.
Again it hurt ONE pose front double biceps shot , it wasn't one of his strongest muscles to begin with and like the judges said it made " no overall difference what so ever " NO OVERALL difference ;) you need an angle to justify your ignorance and you think you have one , Dorian's size , density , dryness , and balance are so overwhelming the shorter biceps means nothing .
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Dorian's size , density , dryness , and balance are so overwhelming the shorter biceps means nothing .
hahahahahaa the shorter one isn't as significant because they both suck.
The deficit in both bicep and tricep size relative to torso is insane. His forearms are almost as big as the upper arms. :-X
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hahahahahaa the shorter one isn't as significant because they both suck.
Still good enough to beat everyone else ;)
you're such fan-boy Dorian doesn't have the biggest biceps so he should lose the whole contest LMFAO great logic another declaration of your ignorance and bias against white bodybuilders
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hahahahahaa the shorter one isn't as significant because they both suck.
The deficit in both bicep and tricep size relative to torso is insane. His forearms are almost as big as the upper arms. :-X
Again entertaining your stupidity I will only use it to point out your bias because its MORE than perfectly fine for Ronnie Coleman to have calves that a Ms Olympia contestant would crush and superhuge quads and you'll rave about his greatness lol
pumpster = bigot
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Still good enough to beat everyone else ;)
you're such fan-boy Dorian doesn't have the biggest biceps so he should lose the whole contest LMFAO great logic another declaration of your ignorance and bias against white bodybuilders
holy crap is dorian getting owned by shawn there.. :o
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holy crap is dorian getting owned by shawn there.. :o
owned how? muscular bulk? 202 pounds compared to 262 pounds? NO owned in density? NO owned in dryness? NO owned in balance? NO owned in aesthetics? YES owned overall? NO
Dorian wins this pose according to how the judge contests , not how internet-fan-boys judge them , lol big arms and small waist lol
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owned how? muscular bulk? 202 pounds compared to 262 pounds? NO owned in density? NO owned in dryness? NO owned in balance? NO owned in aesthetics? YES owned overall? NO
Dorian wins this pose according to how the judge contests , not how internet-fan-boys judge them , lol big arms and small waist lol
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please.
how about two good arms for starters, not one torn up missing one.
tight vaccum midsection as opposed to thick bloated keg like one.
better quads
more pleasing taper.
dorian has better calves.
and is bigger.
ND, you fail to realize that size isn't everything. if it were, Greg Kovacs (dorians twin lol) would have been Mr. O. by now.
by the way, its incredibly stupid of you, a man who CLAIMS to like Haney, Paris, Flex 93 etc to NOT see that dorian is getting owned in that particular pose by shawn.
shows your incredible bias for dorian despite your supposed preferences for the 'classical physique'. ::)
because that is exactly what shawn is displaying in that shot.
not the bloated torn up mismatched monstrousity that dorian is showing.. :-\
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please.
how about two good arms for starters, not one torn up missing one.
tight vaccum midsection as opposed to thick bloated keg like one.
better quads
more pleasing taper.
dorian has better calves.
and is bigger.
ND, you fail to realize that size isn't everything. if it were, Greg Kovacs (dorians twin lol) would have been Mr. O. by now.
by the way, its incredibly stupid of you, a man who CLAIMS to like Haney, Paris, Flex 93 etc to NOT see that dorian is getting owned in that particular pose by shawn.
shows your incredible bias for dorian despite your supposed preferences for the 'classical physique'. ::)
because that is exactly what shawn is displaying in that shot.
not the bloated torn up mismatched monstrousity that dorian is showing.. :-\
Again you just hyperfocused on what YOU think wins contests and needless to say you still have NOT grasped the concept of all rounds are physique rounds , while Shawn may have some advantages in PART of the criteria he doesn't beat Dorian in ALL of the criteria
the difference between you and I , Hulkster ( besides me being a hell of a lot more savy ) is I can separate my preferences ( aesthetic physiques ) from what wins contests . again I was dumbfounded in 1993 how Dorian beat Flex Wheeler ........until I learned how the games was played and I fully understood why and how Dorian crushed Flex .
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ND you are a moron
You want a truce? NO WAY - it would be one thing if we debating DEBATABLE topics.
But we are not.
Sorry, but saying that Dorian has better overall arms than ronnie is NOT a debatable topic. It is RETARDED.
Same with all of your other retarded arguments that serve no purpose other than to show your BLIND HATRED of ronnie.
Like:
-ronnie has small traps
-Arnold has better quads than Ronnie
-Yates has a better back double bi
-Yates has great legs
-Ronnie has small forearms
-etc etc.
The only way I would accept a truce is if you finally admitted what we all know:
you hate Ronnie and therefore will say anything, no matter how retarded (eg. Yates arms are better) just to discredit him.
Some of the stuff you say is so retarded its like saying 2+2=5.
(eg. Ronnie has worse arms than Yates).
I will never stop trying to help people realize the TRUTH, unless you admit that you want no part of it.
but I will not sit by and let someone prance around the boards spewing crap like this.
There are certain things in bodybuilding that are NOT subjective.
Dorian versus Ronnie is one of them.
Ronnie, by all accounts except yours, is much better at his best.
Give credit where credit is due or admit hate and bias.
these are your only options.
Again you just hyperfocused on what YOU think wins contests and needless to say you still have NOT grasped the concept of all rounds are physique rounds , while Shawn may have some advantages in PART of the criteria he doesn't beat Dorian in ALL of the criteria
the difference between you and I , Hulkster ( besides me being a hell of a lot more savy ) is I can separate my preferences ( aesthetic physiques ) from what wins contests . again I was dumbfounded in 1993 how Dorian beat Flex Wheeler ........until I learned how the games was played and I fully understood why and how Dorian crushed Flex .
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You agree with everything I say and then say I ruin my posts with ignorant blanket statements? ??? WTF? lol you agree he was the clear winner in 1995 and you agree he owned everyone that day lol am I missing something?
I personally don't think he should have won in 1997 but the judges thought otherwise and a few guys who were in attendance at the 1997 Olympia said Dorian was the clear winner.
1994 was NO contest admittedly Yates was off but still clearly the winner , Shawn Ray himself said he got the place he deserved .
and Ronnie wasn't more dominate than Dorian no way , look at the scorecards for both men over their careers , Ronnie only scored 3 of his 8 Olympia wins with straight firsts over ho-hum competition , Dorian almost received straight firsts in EVERYONE of his Olympia wins with the exception of 1994 were he won one of the posing rounds but it wasn't with a perfect score and his competition was much sharper its no coincidence that Ronnie started beating guys that were past their prime when he faced them , Ray , Dillett , Flex , Levrone ALL looked much sharper when they faced Yates .
I'll just explain my original post, but I won't argue the other points cause I know your track record...
and I'm just not that committed ;)
I was merely saying that the "blanket statement" was that his 95 was one of the most dominant. I agree he deserved to win that day, I agree he owned everyone that day...but not to the point that Coleman did, which is why that was an "ignorant blanket statement." When he won, Kevin was right behind him, along with Nasser cracking top 3 and threatening Dorian's title.... Now, who threatened Coleman's title after he won it 98??? I could even make a case for Haney, and how far ahead of the competition he was.
But dorian...well, lets just say he always got the nod. ;)
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The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.
Hulkster please commit this to memory ;)
This is how Dorian beats Ronnie , Ray , Levrone , Dillett , Wheeler , and whoever else you can imagine.
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I'll just explain my original post, but I won't argue the other points cause I know your track record...
and I'm just not that committed ;)
I was merely saying that the "blanket statement" was that his 95 was one of the most dominant. I agree he deserved to win that day, I agree he owned everyone that day...but not to the point that Coleman did, which is why that was an "ignorant blanket statement." When he won, Kevin was right behind him, along with Nasser cracking top 3 and threatening Dorian's title.... Now, who threatened Coleman's title after he won it 98??? I could even make a case for Haney, and how far ahead of the competition he was.
But dorian...well, lets just say he always got the nod. ;)
Leverone was NO where near Yates and Nasser lol Nasser couldn't beat Yates at his worse nevermind at among his very best and the competition Dorian faced were all much closer to their primes and most were all very well conditioned
again its no coincidence that Ronnie started to beat guys that Dorian dominated when they were much sharper , hell his first Olympia he just barely beat a sub-par ( compared to 1993 ) Flex Wheeler in one of the closest Mr Olympias ever in the history of the sport .
Dorian's competition much high caliber and better conditioned , Ronnie's competition guys past their primes and the new breed? Cutler , Dexter and Gunther lol all would have been left for dead in the mid 90s
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The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.
Hulkster please commit this to memory ;)
This is how Dorian beats Ronnie , Ray , Levrone , Dillett , Wheeler , and whoever else you can imagine.
yeah, because these two arms represent 'balanced development'
LOL
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oh, and look how this upper body has such great definition and density LOL
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while Shawn may have some advantages in PART of the criteria he doesn't beat Dorian in ALL of the criteria
is having two arms part of the criteria? LOL
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ps please show me where it says you have to be better in ALL of the criteria to win a particular pose.
it has never ever been this way.
that is precisely why judges don't look at the different attributes in isolation like you do in error all the fucking time ::).
they look at the whole picture (or, are supposed to - as we have seen the judging during dorian's torn reign was not exactly idyllic).
not the individual attributes in isolation from each other..
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Pithy lol
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ND you are a moron ( that's a given)
Same with all of your other retarded arguments that serve no purpose other than to show your BLIND HATRED of ronnie.
Like:
-ronnie has small traps
-Arnold has better quads than Ronnie
He actually said these 2 things? LOL
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He actually said these 2 things? LOL
yes, and he tried to argue blatantly about it for eons ::).
the argument about the traps got destroyed when the 99 screenshots came out.
the argument about the quads died around the same time.
probably thanks to shots like this:
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check it out:
a fellow getbigger calling out ND from 2005:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=50137.0
hahahahahahahaha
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He actually said these 2 things? LOL
I said Coleman's traps APPEAR ( key word ) appear small when viewed from the front and I stand by that statement , but Hulkster needs ammunition so he justs takes shit out of context , desperation does that to some people
and the Arnold quad comment I did say but again Hulkster is taking that out of context , I think he posted pics of Ronnie where his quads weren't showing great separation and I did say Arnold did have better DEVELOPMENT NOT size ( again pay attention ) development of the quad muscles he showed much sharper and better separation
now its ironic because Hulkster is the complete idiot who claimed Ronnie's calves at the 99 Olympia were more detailed than Dorians , and the crazy part is this is NOT taken out of context , the same with his other statement that Ronnie easily beats Dorian in the grainy conditioning department lol or Dorian was the most overrated bodybuilder ever , or Ronnie dominated in 2001 by losing the whole pre-judging I mean shall I continue.? lol
Hulkster feel free to quote me just make sure its in context ;)
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check it out:
a fellow getbigger calling out ND from 2005:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=50137.0
hahahahahahahaha
The traps claims is on par with his recent faux pas about Bertil weighing less than 200 lb. at the Olympia bwahaahahahaahaha
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yes, and he tried to argue blatantly about it for eons ::).
the argument about the traps got destroyed when the 99 screenshots came out.
the argument about the quads died around the same time.
probably thanks to shots like this:
Traps still appear small in some front shots all proven by me time and time again and Arnold's quad development easily equals that ( pay attention development NOT size )
now about his calves being better detailed than Dorians LMMFAO or Ronnie was ' grainy ' lol talk about stupid
again 1999 is NOT his best showing I know you're bound to that retarded statement for fear of being exposed as wrong ( again ) but don't worry thos of us in the know already think you're an idiot and you reaffirm that with every post.
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Traps still appear small in some front shots all proven by me time and time again
The bricklayer's traps appear non-existent by comparison.
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The traps claims is on par with his recent faux pas about Bertil weighing less than 200 lb. at the Olympia bwahaahahahaahaha
not from the front they're not ! there are pleanty of pics showing this . and when did I post Bertil was 200 pounds? 225 if he was lucky. 230 MAX but I'll show you a pic of Bertil looking real small next to Beckles if you'd like? ;)
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The bricklayer's traps appear non-existent by comparison.
See strawman , Yates is dead on Ronnie isn't and two different angles , nice try though ::) lmfao I love how you always go back and change your posts comparing a 242 pound Yates and an offseason Ronnie at 300 pounds LMMFAO talk about desperate lol
let me try this lol
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His traps appears small when viewed from the front , you can't fight facts and here he is at 287 pounds
next !
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the same with his other statement that Ronnie easily beats Dorian in the grainy conditioning department lol
why are you laughing?
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I don't get the whole unique "grainy" claim regarding Yates. In one photoshoot (that black and white Flex magazine one) he does have a grainy, conditioned look, but in in his contest pics he looks relatively smooth TBH.
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I don't get the whole unique "grainy" claim regarding Yates. In one photoshoot (that black and white Flex magazine one) he does have a grainy, conditioned look, but in in his contest pics he looks relatively smooth TBH.
welcome to reality.
yates was as overrated as they come.
its only a few idiots like ND that feel that dorian was better conditioned than the peak level that Ronnie hit in his career.
and its obvious everywhere that Ronnie surpassed dorian's physique in all areas, including conditioning:
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See strawman , Yates is dead on Ronnie isn't and two different angles
let me try this lol
ND firing blanks again lol that pic of the bricklayer is *NOT* flattering, doesn't make your point at all, stop using it you idiot hahaahaha
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Put the video on the original size, it's very good quality and Yates' condition is just jaw-dropping. Nothing before or since has matched it.
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Put the video on the original size, it's very good quality and Yates' condition is just jaw-dropping. Nothing before or since has matched it.
lol yeah, keep telling yourself that..
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lol yeah, keep telling yourself that..
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That has nothing to do with the video, which clearly proves Yates' superiority.
You are a sad, sad person. Do you even have a life outside of getbig?
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In video form, Yates' conditioning becomes....
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wait for it...................... ........................ .......................
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........................ ........................ ........................ .........
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In video form, Yates' conditioning becomes....
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wait for it...................... ........................ .......................
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........................ ........................ ........................ .........
That's a great picture of Yates; Nasser Hell of a Syntholbody doesn't come close.
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That's a great picture of Yates; Nasser Hell of a Syntholbody doesn't come close.
Yup, okay buddy ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=254602;image)
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Yup, okay buddy ::)
Nasser looks like a sack of shit and especially after 1995.
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Nasser looks like a sack of shit and especially after 1995.
Nice try troll ;D
These are two years after 95, and he is beating Yates in both side poses, which Dorian fans really pride him over.
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Nice try troll ;D
These are two years after 95, and he is beating Yates in both side poses, which Dorian fans really pride him over.
LOL....good job posting a side tri with a horrible angle on Yates. There are some photos from 97 floating around where Yates just annihilates Nasser on the side tri. And in that side chest, Nasser's pecs are thinner than a pancake, bi's looks incredibly weird too.
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LOL....good job posting a side tri with a horrible angle on Yates. There are some photos from 97 floating around where Yates just annihilates Nasser on the side tri. And in that side chest, Nasser's pecs are thinner than a pancake, bi's looks incredibly weird too.
Please share the 97 side tri picture(s) you speak of.
LOL at the rest of your post, Nasser's pecs are thicker there, his arms are much rounder, and his waist is waaay smaller, it actually comes in while Yates is caved outwards.
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Please share the 97 side tri picture(s) you speak of.
LOL at the rest of your post, Nasser's pecs are thicker there, his arms are much rounder, and his waist is waaay smaller, it actually comes in while Yates is caved outwards.
Put your bifocals on bigbobs, Yates pecs' are way thicker and denser. According to Suckmymuscle, people started laughing when Nasser turned to the side and rear at the 1996 Mr. Olympia as he had no thickness.
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welcome to reality.
yates was as overrated as they come.
its only a few idiots like ND that feel that dorian was better conditioned than the peak level that Ronnie hit in his career.
and its obvious everywhere that Ronnie surpassed dorian's physique in all areas, including conditioning:
Many people feel Yates was better conditioned especially compared to Ronnie 99 LMFAO again the experts own you as well as me
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Nice try troll ;D
These are two years after 95, and he is beating Yates in both side poses, which Dorian fans really pride him over.
I beg to differ , Yates is clearly beating Nasser from the sides and the back and bests him in the front latspread and at the bare minimum pushes on the ab-thigh
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Great pics ND! It's very clean Yates was the best from the side.
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*crickets* ::)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=254472;image)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=254472;image)
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Yeah poor Ronnie ! outclassed as usual :-\
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Seams as the years go on conditioning gets better for the pros. although i enjoyed the mid 90s till early 200 era of bodybuilding way more then todays. I think yates had a sick rear lat spread, great side tricep, good quads and calves. gotta go with ronnie on the best off all time. yates probably my second favorite although i feel flex wheeler was better.
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Seams as the years go on conditioning gets better for the pros. although i enjoyed the mid 90s till early 200 era of bodybuilding way more then todays. I think yates had a sick rear lat spread, great side tricep, good quads and calves. gotta go with ronnie on the best off all time. yates probably my second favorite although i feel flex wheeler was better.
great post!
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=254472;image)
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yup. Ronnie 99 was so far ahead of even dorian's best its not even funny.
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I beg to differ , Yates is clearly beating Nasser from the sides and the back and bests him in the front latspread and at the bare minimum pushes on the ab-thigh
Not sure what those pictures are supposed to prove. They are relatively small with poor resolution/detail, and the differences are largely simply due to different angles. This is a good comparison because it is a relativel close-up and both men are at very similar angles.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=254608;image)
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i can understand people comparing Yates and Ronnie the retard but Nasser El Nobody is a fucking waste of space and time. it's only his turban clad fanboys who make the wife beating piece of shit a contender, and only on this site.
most people aren't at all interested in nasser as he is ugly, smelly, terrible back and sells shit stained underwear to perverts. he has zero charisma and is a bald loser who should fuck off and die instead of keep firing off bitter, bitter salvos because he failed. Nasser shitface should not be spoken of in the same breath as the great Yates. Nasser El no Olympias so I will beat the shit out of my wife in frustration. LOL
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yup. Ronnie 99 was so far ahead of even dorian's best its not even funny.
Ronnie doesn't think so ;)
Hulkster = sucker
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Not sure what those pictures are supposed to prove. They are relatively small with poor resolution/detail, and the differences are largely simply due to different angles. This is a good comparison because it is a relativel close-up and both men are at very similar angles.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=254608;image)
Again Dorian is better first of all Nasser' isn't even hitting the pose properly , Dorian's side chest is textbook and his conditioning is much better , in 97 Dorian beat Nasser in every pose with the exception of the front double biceps , and maybe the ab-thigh , and standing relaxed from the front , Dorian bested Nasser in the 1/4 turns , standing relaxed from the rear , both side shots and all backs shots , sorry Bob-o
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Ronnie could NEVER touch this ever !
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I mean seriously , pick a guy Nasser , Ray , Coleman NO one can touch this side triceps shot .
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I mean seriously , pick a guy Nasser , Ray , Coleman NO one can touch this side triceps shot .
you're right, as usual. please stop including nasser with the others. he is a fucking nobody full of oil and bitterness. he is bodybuilding scum.
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you're right, as usual. please stop including nasser with the others. he is a fucking nobody full of oil and bitterness. he is bodybuilding scum.
Right forget Nasser he was a one dimensional bodybuilder anyway
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Not sure what those pictures are supposed to prove. They are relatively small with poor resolution/detail, and the differences are largely simply due to different angles. This is a good comparison because it is a relativel close-up and both men are at very similar angles.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=254608;image)
Nasser's posing is inferior. He isn't hitting the shot correctly, and even if he did he would still lose. Yates was unbeatable.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=216412.0;attach=254610;image)
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Dorian schooling all of them in the back department
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Ronnie doesn't think so ;)
Hulkster = sucker
what you don't understand its that, well, who the fuck cares what ronnie thinks. He would be as wrong as you are based on the visuals.
if Ronnie Coleman claimed that dorian yates was a black man with 354 inch biceps, would you believe him and automatically assume it to be true despite what you see?
fuck no.
so why the fuck are you believing him now, idiot? ::)
you and your two pussy followers are the only morons who even mention dorian and ronnie in the same breath anymre.
and for good reason:
its not even close:
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Ronnie could NEVER touch this ever!
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(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/98RonnieColeman1.jpg)
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Not even close , Dorian crushs that sorry sport thanks for playing , he have some lovely parting gifts for you .
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what you don't understand its that, well, who the fuck cares what ronnie thinks. He would be as wrong as you are based on the visuals.
if Ronnie Coleman claimed that dorian yates was a black man with 354 inch biceps, would you believe him and automatically assume it to be true despite what you see?
fuck no.
so why the fuck are you believing him now, idiot? ::)
you and your two pussy followers are the only morons who even mention dorian and ronnie in the same breath anymre.
and for good reason:
its not even close:
Of course you don't care what Ronnie says lol because it CRUSHES your fantasy and your analogy is weak like every other ' argument ' you try and formulate , if Ronnie said Yates was black ::) thats not realistic , Dorian beating him is realistic and why? because he beat him EIGHT time previously ..........next
Hulkster - fond of weak logic
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my fantasy?
has it ever occured to you that you and two others are about the only people on the planet that know so little enough about bodybuildgin that you actually believe that Ronnie at his later olympia peak would lose to dorian?
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I notice you are staying away from the 2000 GP Ronnie thread and for damn good reason.
dorian couldn't touch that with a ten foot pole..
cowardly ND avoiding reality as usual.. :-\
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Dorian schooling all of them in the back department
Lights out. And it's even more evident in the video.
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Not even close , Dorian crushs that sorry sport thanks for playing , he have some lovely parting gifts for you.
bullshit. You only say that b/c you're blinded by your love of the British cock. Dorian's back goes straight up and down while Ronnie's lats flare out, and Dorian lacks thickness in his erector spinae. Ronnie's lower back looks 3D compared to Dorian's.
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bullshit. You only say that b/c you're blinded by your love of the British cock. Dorian's back goes straight up and down while Ronnie's lats flare out, and Dorian lacks thickness in his erector spinae. Ronnie's lower back looks 3D compared to Dorian's.
lmfao Dorian lacks thickness in his erector spinae .................enough said like Hulkster's moronic statement that Ronnie's calves are more detailed than Dorians this isn't even worthy of a response , seriously pure stupidity
and stop projecting your latent homosexual tendencies on me , we all know whats on your mind.
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my fantasy?
has it ever occured to you that you and two others are about the only people on the planet that know so little enough about bodybuildgin that you actually believe that Ronnie at his later olympia peak would lose to dorian?
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I notice you are staying away from the 2000 GP Ronnie thread and for damn good reason.
dorian couldn't touch that with a ten foot pole..
cowardly ND avoiding reality as usual.. :-\
See Hulkster fail as usual with pathetically weak logic
see argument ad populum , if a bunch of us think Ronnie is better he is better lol you cling to numbers for dear life
I've said many times pick a year and Dorian at his best would beat Ronnie I don't care if its 98/99 00GP 03 Olympia what ever it doesn't matter and unlike you internet-fan-boy I don't need to proclaim in every single thread how great Dorian is/was you follow me around like a lost puppy trying to convince me that your opinion is right lol good luck you need it ;)
notice I don't follow you lol I have no need to ;)
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I think 1995 was Dorian's peak and better than 1993. The reason for this is that Dorian's muscles were much fuller and rounder in 1995 than 1993. Dorian was super-hard in 1993 but he was also a little bit flat. I think he probably overdieted.