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Haven't done presses in a while and rarely see anyone doing it anymore where I train (a dellusionotary TapOuters LA Fitness stronghole)
4th set was with the 105s for 8 reps. Is that good?
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Anything that gets your shoulders a pump...does not cause impingement syndrome, or, worse....rotator cuff problems.
Believe me...you'd rather have a knee replacement than a severe shoulder problem!
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Well considering im repping out 75's for 8 or 10 reps your doing pretty fucking good bro.
But I believe your beastly shoulders were built on those 225lbs millitaries youve been doing for the past 5-8 years.
Check your pm's
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I'd say it's heavy... I am sitting around 80-90s so yea, that's heavy as shit.
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I did one hundred once for sixteen reps, on one shoulder...since i cleaned them from the floor i just did one dumbell at a time...No idea how much i would have done with both dumbells at once....I only cleaned both dumbells from the floor twice in my life....Hard thing to do....I do barbell now and dont even own the dumbells anymore....
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I did one hundred once for sixteen reps, on one shoulder...since i cleaned them from the floor i just did one dumbell at a time...No idea how much i would have done with both dumbells at once....I only cleaned both dumbells from the floor twice in my life....Hard thing to do....I do barbell now and dont even own the dumbells anymore....
Interesting, anything over 100 requires some crazing swing to get them up.
Today I got lazy and got on up while to TappedOut kid handed me the second.
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Interesting, anything over 100 requires some crazing swing to get then up.
Today I got lazy and got on up while to TappedOut kid handed me the second.
All I know is its much harder to clean two hundred pound dumbells then a barbell of the same weight...Most likely because on the barbell the strong arm does most the work...
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All I know is its much harder to clean two hundred pound dumbells then a barbell of the same weight...Most likely because on the barbell the strong arm does most the work...
Kinda like doing lateral raises with kettle bells rather than regular dumbells.. much heavier for some reasons.
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Haven't done presses in a while and rarely see anyone doing it anymore where I train (a dellusionotary TapOuters LA Fitness stronghole)
4th set was with the 105s for 8 reps. Is that good?
Thats very good. My last set is 75-80 for maybe 8-10. Then again you probably outweigh me by 30-40 lbs. My girlfriend can get 3-4 with 60s so I gotta keep getting better before she beats me one day. ;D
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Thats very good. My last set is 75-80 for maybe 8-10. Then again you probably outweigh me by 30-40 lbs. My girlfriend can get 3-4 with 60s so I gotta keep getting better before she beats me one day. ;D
I'm impressed and curious... she's been training for a while? Any pics ;D ?
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I'm impressed and curious... she's been training for a while? Any pics ;D ?
She has always been athletic playing basketball and track during high school so I guess she may have lifted some. She got me into the gym because I didn't want to be the fatass going with the fit girl. As for the 60s yeah I help her get them up to her ears and from there with decent for she gets 3-4 last rep assisted. She's not big 5'7 maybe 135 and a gym rat.
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She has always been athletic playing basketball and track during high school so I guess she may have lifted some. She got me into the gym because I didn't want to be the fatass going with the fit girl. As for the 60s yeah I help her get them up to her ears and from there with decent for she gets 3-4 last rep assisted. She's not big 5'7 maybe 135 and a gym rat.
60's @ 135lb --> like me going for the 120's :o
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Haven't done presses in a while and rarely see anyone doing it anymore where I train (a dellusionotary TapOuters LA Fitness stronghole)
4th set was with the 105s for 8 reps. Is that good?
Yeah, for a girl with one arm.
j/k ;D Don't "expose" me, big guy. ;)
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Yeah, for a girl with one arm.
j/k ;D Don't "expose" me, big guy. ;)
hahahaha... like the IRS, I only expose frauds ;D
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hahahaha... like the IRS, I only expose frauds ;D
How's your quest for the holy rippedness coming along? You look like you're starting to lean down abit.
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Well considering im repping out 75's for 8 or 10 reps your doing pretty fucking good bro.
But I believe your beastly shoulders were built on those 225lbs millitaries youve been doing for the past 5-8 years.
Check your pm's
Actually, 275's ;D
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOM!!!!! ;D
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I did one hundred once for sixteen reps, on one shoulder
The only thing you've ever done "sixteen" times is put another man's penis in your mouth and make it cum 16 times in one hour.
You could teach my wife a thing or two, you f'n fagg%t ;D
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alex...you have quite the large fan base on the east coast!
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Actually, 275's ;D
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOM!!!!! ;D
Those presses are going to do more for your shoulders than some fufu DBs. However 105s are a strong lift!
Jason
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How's your quest for the holy rippedness coming along? You look like you're starting to lean down abit.
Yea, dropped about 12lb... seems like the viceral fat went first, I can suck my stomach in pretty good but oviously lardy under the skin; in all fairness haven't been training at all this month either. The entire move however was like a 7 days non stop workout ;D
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60's @ 135lb --> like me going for the 120's :o
If you don't lose too much strength getting them into position you probably could get a rep or two with 120s.
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Yea, dropped about 12lb... seems like the viceral fat went first, I can suck my stomach in pretty good but oviously lardy under the skin; in all fairness haven't been training at all this month either. The entire move however was like a 7 days non stop workout ;D
I hate moving. Still thinking of competing?
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The only thing you've ever done "sixteen" times is put another man's penis in your mouth and make it cum 16 times in one hour. You could teach my wife a thing or two, you f'n fagg%t ;D
Are you saying that "bebop396" could easily host one of those "girls night out"/"BJ classes"? ;D
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I hate moving. Still thinking of competing?
I may pass for September... with the wedding couple of weeks after might be too much at once.
December might be more realistic. All bulked up on the wedding pics. She'll love it.
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I may pass for September... with the wedding couple of weeks after might be too much at once.
December might be more realistic. All bulked up on the wedding pics. She'll love it.
You gotta get a crazy pic like in your AV while you're wearing a tux.
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You gotta get a crazy pic like in your AV while you're wearing a tux.
Hahahaha there will be many pics/vids of such, believe you me ;D
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Anything that gets your shoulders a pump...does not cause impingement syndrome, or, worse....rotator cuff problems.
Believe me...you'd rather have a knee replacement than a severe shoulder problem!
I agree. I popped my shoulder couple of months back and now it sucks to the core.. You can't do much with a bad shoulder!!
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I agree. I popped my shoulder couple of months back and now it sucks to the core.. You can't do much with a bad shoulder!!
Where the mind goes the body will follow. Free your mind!!
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Where the mind goes the body will follow. Free your mind!!
What's up these days my Alter-gimmick-Ego? ;D
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What's up these days my Alter-gimmick-Ego? ;D
Nothing much. Just miss the old days when SF would follow me around the boards hopefully posting, "Hi Alex23" ;D
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Nothing much. Just miss the old days when SF would follow me around the boards hopefully posting, "Hi Alex23" ;D
There will be fun days again. I admit it's boring lately but you know as well as I do that getbig is seasonal ;D
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The only thing you've ever done "sixteen" times is put another man's penis in your mouth and make it cum 16 times in one hour.
You could teach my wife a thing or two, you f'n fagg%t ;D
damn, if i could do that, then i would be getting pm's by the hundreds on this site from straight guys wanting to meet up.....Is cumming sixteen times in an hour even possible?
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damn, if i could do that, then i would be getting pm's by the hundreds on this site from straight guys wanting to meet up.....Is cumming sixteen times in an hour even possible?
hahahahahaah what a sport ;D
Just fucking with you man. I think one would 'raisin bran' out before the 7th shot ;D
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My last shoulder workout I did was on Thursday and I did 110s for 6 reps followed by 100s for 10. Then dropping to 85's and just repping out - didn't count how many reps.
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My last shoulder workout I did was on Thursday and I did 110s for 6 reps followed by 100s for 10. Then dropping to 85's and just repping out - didn't count how many reps.
Booooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooommmm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Booooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooommmm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;D
Hahah, yes, the old three-year old picture coming out again.. ::)
Approaching 4000 posts baby - new BigJ pic on the way as promised!
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Hahah, yes, the old three-year old picture coming out again.. ::)
Approaching 4000 posts baby - new BigJ pic on the way as promised!
it's a classic, how can one resist ;D
Let's see some new pics bro. You're in the UK?
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it's a classic, how can one resist ;D
Let's see some new pics bro. You're in the UK?
Yep - it's 8:30am in the UK here and it's also my birthday today - I've got a stinking cold and I'm waiting for my missus to get out of bed to give me my present. I'll get some new pics up in the next few days.
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Yep - it's 8:30am in the UK here and it's also my birthday today - I've got a stinking cold and I'm waiting for my missus to get out of bed to give me my present. I'll get some new pics up in the next few days.
Top O' the morning to you and Happy Birthday ;D
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Haven't done presses in a while and rarely see anyone doing it anymore where I train (a dellusionotary TapOuters LA Fitness stronghole)
4th set was with the 105s for 8 reps. Is that good?
I would say yes. I can't see anyone saying the 100s or more for reps is not heavy.
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Im using 51kgs for 8 reps thats 111pounds I beleive.strict reps no swinging or bouncing..
I have someone put them in place for me so yes I am a pussy ;D
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Im using 51kgs for 8 reps thats 111pounds I beleive.strict reps no swinging or bouncing..
I have someone put them in place for me so yes I am a pussy ;D
I don't think it's pussy... swinging shit around ain't healthy IMO... I will use 4 tapoutters to hand me the 110lb jewels next workout ;D
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Im using 51kgs for 8 reps thats 111pounds I beleive.strict reps no swinging or bouncing..
I have someone put them in place for me so yes I am a pussy ;D
Same here - I don't clean them to shoulder level - that's a precious waste of energy.
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I don't think it's pussy... swinging shit around ain't healthy IMO... I will use 4 tapoutters to hand me the 110lb jewels next workout ;D
Haha yes , trying to find someone to hand them to you is another story when most of the time the actual bells weigh more than the twink in the wifebeater who offers to spot you :-\
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Same here - I don't clean them to shoulder level - that's a precious waste of energy.
Agree,that and I have an torn bicep injury from the past that I have to baby at times >:(
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The kicking or swinging up of the dumbells has always been my biggest problem. In the past my dumbell presses were limited mostly by how much I could get to my shoulders. My best unassisted is 130s for 5-6. I did 140s for 4 one time having my buddies pass me the weights. Now I usually do somewhere between 110s and 120s. This pic, if I remember correctly is from 2003 with 120s:
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m143/dragonfist001/120s.jpg?t=1211702761)
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The kicking or swinging up of the dumbells has always been my biggest problem. In the past my dumbell presses were limited mostly by how much I could get to my shoulders. My best unassisted is 130s for 5-6. I did 140s for 4 one time having my buddies pass me the weights. Now I usually do somewhere between 110s and 120s. This pic, if I remember correctly is from 2003 with 120s:
That's not GI Joe's Snake Eye.
;D
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The kicking or swinging up of the dumbells has always been my biggest problem. In the past my dumbell presses were limited mostly by how much I could get to my shoulders. My best unassisted is 130s for 5-6. I did 140s for 4 one time having my buddies pass me the weights. Now I usually do somewhere between 110s and 120s. This pic, if I remember correctly is from 2003 with 120s:
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m143/dragonfist001/120s.jpg?t=1211702761)
amazing seperation and detail in your arms bro!
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amazing seperation and detail in your arms bro!
I was a big 300 pound fatass. Now I'm a medium sized 240 pound fatass.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m143/dragonfist001/0048.jpg?t=1210361757)
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I was a big 300 pound fatass. Now I'm a medium sized 240 pound fatass.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m143/dragonfist001/0048.jpg?t=1210361757)
Looking pretty massive there... how tall are you?
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That's not GI Joe's Snake Eye.
;D
lol! ;D
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Looking pretty massive there... how tall are you?
About 6'2"-6'2.5".
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i chuck up the 90's for 5-6. kills my shoulders when i try too hard though.
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Haven't done presses in a while and rarely see anyone doing it anymore where I train (a dellusionotary TapOuters LA Fitness stronghole)
4th set was with the 105s for 8 reps. Is that good?
Another herculean feat of strength for Getbigs greatest. Nice work Alex.
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Yep - it's 8:30am in the UK here and it's also my birthday today - I've got a stinking cold and I'm waiting for my missus to get out of bed to give me my present. I'll get some new pics up in the next few days.
where in the uk are you?
@alex dumbells 105 thats good...
thats my final set ..
i go all the way down and touch the delts ..and straight up
also i believe in swinging my own dumbells up because a lot of people dont now how to pass dumbells and mess up your set
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Actually, 275's ;D
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOM!!!!! ;D
Sorry, You train very very bad.
Less than half reps. :-\
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Haven't done presses in a while and rarely see anyone doing it anymore where I train (a dellusionotary TapOuters LA Fitness stronghole)
4th set was with the 105s for 8 reps. Is that good?
thats good for a natural
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Theres a guy at my gym who is big but not massive, prob 220lbs, does the 130s for 5 very strict reps and bloody gets them up there himself to!
Used to be a boxer, i would nt like a smack from him!
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Actually, 275's ;D
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOM!!!!! ;D
[ Invalid YouTube link ]"Alex" nice incline presses even if they are 1/2 reps ::)
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!! ::)
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Seriously, don't brag until your hips/lower back are flush with the seat/backrest...you're getting upper chest as much as shldrs...TERRIBLE... 8)
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Sorry, You train very very bad.
Less than half reps. :-\
but he is natural....on occasion.
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but he is natural....on occasion.
When I was fat like him, I could do behind neck full-range of 100kg 6 reps.
And I am natural too and i am not strong trainee at all. :-\
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I've done 105's for 6, only time I tried it was with these really old solid weights, they're not as long as the plate loaded kind so they're not as awkward to get up. I'd try to go heavier but I don't think I can kick those up into position.
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i never see the average gym rat use more than the 70's for reps
only serious and experienced lifters use anything more
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About 6'2"-6'2.5".
You do NOT look like a "fatass" at 240! I think you look great.
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Today I got lazy and got on up while to TappedOut kid handed me the second.
prolly the most weight that kid has ever lifted
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The kicking or swinging up of the dumbells has always been my biggest problem. In the past my dumbell presses were limited mostly by how much I could get to my shoulders.
Same, fortunately its comparatively light weight for a male so getting them passed to me is no issue.
I have it easier than you guys :D
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Actually, 275's ;D
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOM!!!!! ;D
Not shoulder presses at all. Half ROM
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My ROM on standing shoulder presses
105's for 8. Few months old. Much stronger now. Also fatigued
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goudy not only looks good but also is strong.
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I was a big 300 pound fatass. Now I'm a medium sized 240 pound fatass.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m143/dragonfist001/0048.jpg?t=1210361757)
lookin lean and big bro!
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goudy not only looks good but also is strong.
Why thank you, you're quite the stud yourself :)
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The only thing you've ever done "sixteen" times is put another man's penis in your mouth and make it cum 16 times in one hour.
You could teach my wife a thing or two, you f'n fagg%t ;D
ROFL
The Beef
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My ROM on standing shoulder presses
105's for 8. Few months old. Much stronger now. Also fatigued
dude,You are very good. Nice.
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My ROM on standing shoulder presses
105's for 8. Few months old. Much stronger now. Also fatigued
Lower back/hips are not flush with seat/backrest.....not a true DB shldr press...more of a shldr/incline bench press ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Lower back/hips are not flush with seat/backrest.....not a true DB shldr press...more of a shldr/incline bench press ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Thats the higest incline i feel comfortable with...also my lower back/butt is as close to the base as i an get it. its my upperbody bent.
not perfect but decent IMO
ty kymou
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alot of stupid remarks in this thread. especially the ones about other peoples form.
get a grip. form is relative..what hits the muscle for one person might not hit the muscle for the other. insertion/attachment points.. path of motion... injuires in the past.. differences in alignment, and general differences in structure ... they all contribute to what constitutes "good form" for a certain individual
im fucking retarded and i know this stufff
makes me wonder abotu some of you guys
alex 275 on the military press thats fucking impressive dude !
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alot of stupid remarks in this thread. especially the ones about other peoples form.
get a grip. form is relative..what hits the muscle for one person might not hit the muscle for the other. insertion/attachment points.. path of motion... injuires in the past.. differences in alignment, and general differences in structure ... they all contribute to what constitutes "good form" for a certain individual
im fucking retarded and i know this stufff
makes me wonder abotu some of you guys
alex 275 on the military press thats fucking impressive dude !
Most honest statement you've ever made. ;)
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alot of stupid remarks in this thread. especially the ones about other peoples form.
get a grip. form is relative..what hits the muscle for one person might not hit the muscle for the other. insertion/attachment points.. path of motion... injuires in the past.. differences in alignment, and general differences in structure ... they all contribute to what constitutes "good form" for a certain individual
im fucking retarded and i know this stufff
makes me wonder abotu some of you guys
alex 275 on the military press thats fucking impressive dude !
good weight though its all triceps. basically no shoulders involved by going that high
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good weight though its all triceps. basically no shoulders involved by going that high
how can you make that statement ? what kind of evidence do you have for that ?
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Most honest statement you've ever made. ;)
I concur :D
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how can you make that statement ? what kind of evidence do you have for that ?
because its basically lockout work. If i done that i could use far more weight but the shoulders would be worked less.
Its from the clavicle to eye level when the shoulders are worked most.
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I concur :D
Concurrance noted. :)
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because its basically lockout work. If i done that i could use far more weight but the shoulders would be worked less.
Its from the clavicle to eye level when the shoulders are worked most.
i dont really agree.
you can do the whole movement purely with shoulders... mind+muscle connnestion is important part of training...
alot of guys just move the weight, they dont contract the muscle
always contract the muscle..never move the weight...
thats my thoughts at least
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i dont really agree.
you can do the whole movement purely with shoulders... mind+muscle connnestion is important part of training...
alot of guys just move the weight, they dont contract the muscle
always contract the muscle..never move the weight...
thats my thoughts at least
Fair enough everyone entitled to your own opinion.
However, its like doing bench presses and coming 8" off teh chest, yes your chest will develop to an extent though not to its fullest potential.
Using full ROM on standing military presses my shoulders are growing so fast. Thats without even thinking of the mind/muscle connection which i dont really subscribe to at all.
Use good form good weight smart training and you will grow.
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Anything over 80's is heavy.....
over 100.....strong.....
over 120's....damn strong......
I was able at one time to do 110 for quite a few reps. Now that I fucked up my right rotator a few years ago....doing anything over 50's hurt like a mother.
I now don't do anything heavy at all on shoulder work. All light weight & higher reps.
I personally think not warming up correctly ruined my shoulder.
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Anything over 80's is heavy.....
over 100.....strong.....
over 120's....damn strong......
I was able at one time to do 110 for quite a few reps. Now that I fucked up my right rotator a few years ago....doing anything over 50's hurt like a mother.
I now don't do anything heavy at all on shoulder work. All light weight & higher reps.
I personally think not warming up correctly ruined my shoulder.
If you have had rotator cuff problems or surgery don't do anything over haed (pressing movements) anymore
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i dont really agree.
you can do the whole movement purely with shoulders... mind+muscle connnestion is important part of training...
alot of guys just move the weight, they dont contract the muscle
always contract the muscle..never move the weight...
thats my thoughts at least
Yes.
For complete myo development (IE, not just MOVING weights)...concentrate at becoming the best you can be at making a lighter weight LOOK heavy.
Then you will have TRULY achieved the all important mind muscle connection.
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Fair enough everyone entitled to your own opinion.
However, its like doing bench presses and coming 8" off teh chest, yes your chest will develop to an extent though not to its fullest potential.
Using full ROM on standing military presses my shoulders are growing so fast. Thats without even thinking of the mind/muscle connection which i dont really subscribe to at all.
Use good form good weight smart training and you will grow.
do you ever read stuff on science of training ? you should download the poliquin principles..o some stuff by some legit professionals... poliquin is good...there is also one guy from old soviet union who wrote some awesome things on hypertrophy.. i forget his name though; i read it and didnt ssave it..
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do you ever read stuff on science of training ? you should download the poliquin principles..o some stuff by some legit professionals... poliquin is good...there is also one guy from old soviet union who wrote some awesome things on hypertrophy.. i forget his name though; i read it and didnt ssave it..
No, but i am trained bya guy who trained the 2006 UK BFL champion. burn2live is also trained by the same guy. In 1 year of training from scratch burn2live is now deadlifting 600plus lbs missed 661 in comp, squatting 475 and benching 330.
To much science etc confuses things. basically all u need to know about weight training is progressive resitence, good form and cycle weights. thats it
but i will strongly and totally disagree on you with the idea of doing half reps.
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i got the 100's for like 1or 2, epic waste of time seated dumbell press
flat dumbell press i got 135 pound bells for one set of 8 or 9. another epic waste of time because i could only replicate this for just one set ::)
lifting heavy is only documentable when fresh
after your fatigued but still want to workout, you simply cant lift heavy. most quit workout if they cant lift heavy that is why they are fat.
lift what you can but lift it for a long long time set after set. injury free, many sets to failure as possible is key
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No, but i am trained bya guy who trained the 2006 UK BFL champion. burn2live is also trained by the same guy. In 1 year of training from scratch burn2live is now deadlifting 600plus lbs missed 661 in comp, squatting 475 and benching 330.
To much science etc confuses things. basically all u need to know about weight training is progressive resitence, good form and cycle weights. thats it
but i will strongly and totally disagree on you with the idea of doing half reps.
yeah your right about that... follow that and your good to go
but you can get more technical with it if youd like to
i think half reps and cheat reps have their time and place, especially if you traqin alone... at the end of a workout during your last sets its a wise move once you reach failure on your own to hit up some half reps before dropping down in weight and going to failure again..(then do some half reps to half rep failure, then drop down again, ect...)
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because its basically lockout work. If i done that i could use far more weight but the shoulders would be worked less.
Its from the clavicle to eye level when the shoulders are worked most.
I concur the rest are all TRICEPS!!!
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I concur the rest are all TRICEPS!!!
your not working out correctly then
his triceps could be 100 percent relaxed right there... if he has good mind muscle connction
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yeah your right about that... follow that and your good to go
but you can get more technical with it if youd like to
i think half reps and cheat reps have their time and place, especially if you traqin alone... at the end of a workout during your last sets its a wise move once you reach failure on your own to hit up some half reps before dropping down in weight and going to failure again..(then do some half reps to half rep failure, then drop down again, ect...)
HERE YOU GO...BRUTAL SHOULDERS.
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your not working out correctly then
his triceps could be 100 percent relaxed right there... if he has good mind muscle connction
i think that depends on each person not everyone is built the same limb wise and what not. For me a person wtih long arms I dont lockout on movements such as bench, shoulder presses, etc...My triceps take over no matter what kind of mind muscle connections there is. My shoulders are shot from adams apple to just slightly above my head no more. I will lockout to rest my shoulders on shoulder presses sure same with bench presses I will lock them out to rest my chest and let my triceps do the work for a second.
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HERE YOU GO...BRUTAL SHOULDERS.
Was that supposed to be 315#'s?
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i totally agree. every bodys structure is slightly different.
i think maybe you should try to focus on keeping your triceps relaxed though... maybe imagine not pushing the weight up, but pulling your upper arms in with the shoulders... the weight moving up would be a by product of pullg in the upper arms..let the triceps be relax and the elbow joint calm
thats how i do it
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long thread that Im not going to read.
I do 85's for 4 sets of 6 - 10, depending on what ive eaten, if im tired, etc. That is full ROM including lockout
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long thread that Im not going to read.
lazy bastard. ::)
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lazy bastard. ::)
shit man, i actually read some of this and now not only am i lazy, but im a pussy. I gotta up my lbs's here
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long thread that Im not going to read.
I do 85's for 4 sets of 6 - 10, depending on what ive eaten, if im tired, etc. That is full ROM including lockout
YOU WANT A COOKIE :o
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YOU WANT A COOKIE :o
No thanks, I've got a computer full of them. ::)
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I'd love a cookie :D
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If you don't lose too much strength getting them into position you probably could get a rep or two with 120s.
Is repping 120's for a rep or two good?
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LOLLLLLZ
hey guys is benching pressing 600 lbs raw good ? ???
oh yeah you cant call bullshit cuz i asked if it was good... i didnt brag..... i act like i dont know thats heavy. so it must be true
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LOLLLLLZ
hey guys is benching pressing 600 lbs raw good ? ???
oh yeah you cant call bullshit cuz i asked if it was good... i didnt brag..... i act like i dont know thats heavy. so it must be true
;D
Can you believe that guy expecting us to believe he can get 1-2 reps with 120's ::)
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Can you believe that guy expecting us to believe he can get 1-2 reps with 120's ::)
LOL
it wasnt directed soley at you dude... so many guys i know for sure in ths thread are trying to pull that move... just look at how many did thta " is y for x reps good ? " ;D
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I kinda thought that was A23 all the way not me, are you gonna ask me for a video next ::)
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because its basically lockout work. If i done that i could use far more weight but the shoulders would be worked less.
Its from the clavicle to eye level when the shoulders are worked most.
Correct. I started doing this after I saw that video of Wolf working his delts and it definatly isolates the delts.
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Correct. I started doing this after I saw that video of Wolf working his delts and it definatly isolates the delts.
One thing is for sure, Wolf has some serious delts
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1142/204/ (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1142/204/)
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alot of stupid remarks in this thread. especially the ones about other peoples form.
get a grip. form is relative..what hits the muscle for one person might not hit the muscle for the other. insertion/attachment points.. path of motion... injuires in the past.. differences in alignment, and general differences in structure ... they all contribute to what constitutes "good form" for a certain individual
im fucking retarded and i know this stufff
makes me wonder abotu some of you guys
alex 275 on the military press thats fucking impressive dude !
exactly. if you're a PT and teaching some no-brainer how to do an exercise, teach them the 'correct' form - obviously for liabilities sake and to teach them what is considered correct and safe, so thats fair enough, but if you're an intermediate-advanced lifter then you know what makes you grow you know what is comfortable.
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress2.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress.jpg)
On this particular day, it was 125 X 8-10!
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress2.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress.jpg)
On this particular day, it was 125 X 8-10!
Talking about shoulder presses Joe, not incline presses. ;)
Hope this helps! :D
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Talking about shoulder presses Joe, not incline presses. ;)
Hope this helps! :D
Incline?? LOL!
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coach teach me your sales pitch dude.
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coach teach me your sales pitch dude.
What sales pitch?
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What sales pitch?
your personal training sales pitch. teahc me how you got such high paying clients.
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress2.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress.jpg)
On this particular day, it was 125 X 8-10!
Why are you nearly laying down for , we are talking delts here gramps not chest :D
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BRUTAL INCLINE PRESS...you must have some big chest there..
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress2.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress.jpg)
On this particular day, it was 125 X 8-10!
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your personal training sales pitch. teahc me how you got such high paying clients.
Simple, I show them a picture of this guy and ask "You really don't want to look this.......do you?"
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/noone2.jpg)
;D
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Incline?? LOL!
Your chest is between your arms where your head would be if they were shoulder presses, that means they are inclines. As a PT you should know this stuff, Josef.
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Your chest is between your arms where your head would be if they were shoulder presses, that means they are inclines. As a PT you should know this stuff, Josef.
It's not an incline press. If it were an incline, I would be looking up at the celing and you wouldn't see the back of the bench.
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Simple, I show them a picture of this guy and ask "You really don't want to look this.......do you?"
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/noone2.jpg)
;D
BTW, for what it's worth, I don't think this pic is "no one".
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45x123 reps.
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No thanks, I've got a computer full of them. ::)
Ha ha - nice comeback
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What's considered "heavy" on dumbbell shoulder presses?
200 lbs dumbbells for reps.
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It's not an incline press. If it were an incline, I would be looking up at the celing and you wouldn't see the back of the bench.
You are using a lot of chest though, you must at least agree with that right? The bench is not at 90 degree angle.
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It's not an incline press. If it were an incline, I would be looking up at the celing and you wouldn't see the back of the bench.
With as much curve as you have in your back and as puffed up as your chest is, how much shoulder do youthink you're working there? Seriously, you post pics of your form like that, then expect us to believe you train others? Do all your trainees do shoulder presses inclines at that high of an angle?
Ha ha - nice comeback
someone caught that. :D
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You are using a lot of chest though, you must at least agree with that right? The bench is not at 90 degree angle.
Alot??? Shit it looks like his lower back has moved foward a good 2 foot.
That is poor form if it is a shoulder press ???
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress2.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress.jpg)
On this particular day, it was 125 X 8-10!
Pretty decent dumbbell incline bench press there, short stuff.
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You do NOT look like a "fatass" at 240! I think you look great.
lookin lean and big bro!
Thank you both.
Same, fortunately its comparatively light weight for a male so getting them passed to me is no issue.
I have it easier than you guys :D
I thought all this time I was one of the few people who had problem getting the weights to their shoulders. Most of the guys I see in the gym kick their weights up relatively easy and the struggle to press them. The owner of the old gym I trained at just did almost a cheat hammer curl and would swing 130s right up, then sit down on the bench. At the current gym I train at there are two guys that do between 110-120s and the seem to kick them up pretty easily.
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It's not an incline press. If it were an incline, I would be looking up at the celing and you wouldn't see the back of the bench.
well it sure as hell isnt a db shoulder press either. more like some hybrid. reduce the poundages and do it right. liberate your ego.
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best i got upto would be a hard 4 or 5 reps with 110,,,, we found the best way to do them was to clean them to shoulders as u drop back into the seat, then get training partner to push your elbows up for the 1st rep... my shoulders are fucked for good,,, u can keep almost all your size from strict light laterals and bentovers, youd be supprised
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If you have had rotator cuff problems or surgery don't do anything over haed (pressing movements) anymore
::)
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well it sure as hell isnt a db shoulder press either. more like some hybrid. reduce the poundages and do it right. liberate your ego.
ok ::)
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You are using a lot of chest though, you must at least agree with that right? The bench is not at 90 degree angle.
No, not really. That particular bench is up as high as it can go. And, yes, I did arch a little towards the 8th, 9th and 10th but not to the point where butt came up, it was still a strict set.
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If you have had rotator cuff problems or surgery don't do anything over haed (pressing movements) anymore
Or at least for a very long time, other than that, you are correct.
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No, not really. That particular bench is up as high as it can go. And, yes, I did arch a little towards the 8th, 9th and 10th but not to the point where butt came up, it was still a strict set.
What gym were those photos taken at? Is that the Met-Rx gym?
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No, not really. That particular bench is up as high as it can go. And, yes, I did arch a little towards the 8th, 9th and 10th but not to the point where butt came up, it was still a strict set.
More than a little "Coach". ::)
You need me to come to Sunset Beach and show you how it's done ???
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More than a little "Coach". ::)
You need me to come to Sunset Beach and show you how it's done ???
Sure, but I don't do shoulder presses anymore.
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What gym were those photos taken at? Is that the Met-Rx gym?
Yes, MetRx is where I train.
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/dbpress2.jpg)
That little mexican is pretty strong.
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Coach is a 4'8" powerhouse.
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BRUTAL INCLINE PRESS...you must have some big chest there..
If you would have bothered to look at the bench (incline) on the right side of the pic, you can see the difference. (I can't believe I have to explain this ::))
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Sure, but I don't do shoulder presses anymore.
What do you do?
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What do you do?
Golf..........and internal/external rotations, scapula retractions, medicine ball circuits.
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Golf.... medicine ball circuits.
LOL. You really are gettin gold, eh "The Coach". ;D
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Golf..........and internal/external rotations, scapula retractions, medicine ball circuits.
gayer then doing yoga naked
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gayer then doing yoga naked
FAIL
nothign at all gay about doing yoga naked, bro
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FAIL
nothign at all gay about doing yoga naked, bro
Gayer than defending guys that do yoga naked.
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Gayer than defending guys that do yoga naked.
i was defending myself 8)
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i was defending myself 8)
So, you outgay yourself?
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LOL. You really are gettin gold, eh "The Coach". ;D
I do it for shoulder rehab, besides it's a harder workout without destroying my joints and stabilizers.
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beyond a certain point, it is too difficult to go superheavy on dumbbell militaries- it is such a pain to get them in position. Better to just switch to a barbell or a machine
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i have cleaned 110's from floor to shoulder then sat down on bench and pressed.
Yes its tough though i have been doing it that way since i could only press 60's so im used to it and its made me stronger
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If you would have bothered to look at the bench (incline) on the right side of the pic, you can see the difference. (I can't believe I have to explain this ::))
The bench you are using is correct , but you are not,you have slipped foward turning into an incline press.
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ok ::)
exactly.
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dennis wolf do half reps from chin to above his hair smith machine
frank mcgrath do them from mouth up to full straighten arms smith machine
branch warren do them free bb very fast from bouncing at his chest to almost straighten arms
charles glass got his clients do them from nose to fully straighten arms in the smith, but with elbows to the front
dorian yates do them from chin to fully straighten arms in the smith
lee haney did front bb presses from under the chin to fully straighten arms
i hope us getbiggers can agree on how to do them so we can teach the pros the right way
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dennis wolf do half reps from chin to above his hair smith machine
frank mcgrath do them from mouth up to full straighten arms smith machine
branch warren do them free bb very fast from bouncing at his chest to almost straighten arms
charles glass got his clients do them from nose to fully straighten arms in the smith, but with elbows to the front
dorian yates do them from chin to fully straighten arms in the smith
lee haney did front bb presses from under the chin to fully straighten arms
i hope us getbiggers can agree on how to do them so we can teach the pros the right way
I am correct
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The bench you are using is correct , but you are not,you have slipped foward turning into an incline press.
How can I "slip" further? the seat is only about 8-10" if I slipped any further I'd be on my ass.
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dennis wolf do half reps from chin to above his hair smith machine
frank mcgrath do them from mouth up to full straighten arms smith machine
branch warren do them free bb very fast from bouncing at his chest to almost straighten arms
charles glass got his clients do them from nose to fully straighten arms in the smith, but with elbows to the front
dorian yates do them from chin to fully straighten arms in the smith
lee haney did front bb presses from under the chin to fully straighten arms
i hope us getbiggers can agree on how to do them so we can teach the pros the right way
Outta all the guys you listed, tell me who's shoulders are the best? Wolf's style keeps the pressure on the delts. I believe Ronnie also did this. I'll work triceps on tricep day.
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How can I "slip" further? the seat is only about 8-10" if I slipped any further I'd be on my ass.
Then you must have your ass off the bench then pelvis thrusted foward as from that pic you clearly are working your chest more than your deltoids...
Keep your lower back hard against the back rest then you will be doing a shoulder press .
hope that helps :-*
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Then you must have your ass off the bench then pelvis thrusted foward as from that pic you clearly are working your chest more than your deltoids...
Keep your lower back hard against the back rest then you will be doing a shoulder press .
hope that helps :-*
Nope, I rarely cheat and when I do it's still a strict movement.
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Nope, I rarely cheat and when I do it's still a strict movement.
You won't accept it, will you? You always have to be right, even when you are wrong.
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Outta all the guys you listed, tell me who's shoulders are the best? Wolf's style keeps the pressure on the delts. I believe Ronnie also did this. I'll work triceps on tricep day.
so how long you been doing that style of presses and have it worked for you
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dennis wolf do half reps from chin to above his hair smith machine
frank mcgrath do them from mouth up to full straighten arms smith machine
branch warren do them free bb very fast from bouncing at his chest to almost straighten arms
charles glass got his clients do them from nose to fully straighten arms in the smith, but with elbows to the front
dorian yates do them from chin to fully straighten arms in the smith
lee haney did front bb presses from under the chin to fully straighten arms
i hope us getbiggers can agree on how to do them so we can teach the pros the right way
alot of the muscle tears that we have seen in pro bodybuilding is due to training with limited ROM (combined with AAS use ...which increases the risk further)). full range of motion (in general) is alot safer for the muscles.
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alot of the muscle tears that we have seen in pro bodybuilding is due to training with limited ROM (combined with AAS use ...which increases the risk further)). full range of motion (in general) is alot safer for the muscles.
the hammer recommends limited rom as used by dennis wolf
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Heavy is whatever weight you struggle with
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True heavy is relative...However in general 100lbs for reps with full ROM is good for 185lb plus guys.
85-90'9 pretty good for lighter guys
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True heavy is relative...However in general 100lbs for reps with full ROM is good for 185lb plus guys.
85-90'9 pretty good for lighter guys
no one that posts on on getbig is that tiny
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no one that posts on on getbig is that tiny
sorry adjust those poundages to kilos lol
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the hammer recommends limited rom as used by dennis wolf
then the hammer is an idiot.
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So I guess Ronnie and Dennis Wolf are idiots too?
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So I guess Ronnie and Dennis Wolf are idiots too?
One of them is and it aint Dennis ;D
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One of them is and it aint Dennis ;D
YEAH BUDDY....LIGHTWEIGHT
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So I guess Ronnie and Dennis Wolf are idiots too?
full range of motion protects the muscles. (in most cases)
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correct and does not create imbalances that lead to injury.
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normally i do 30 kilos a side... 66 a side
once i did 50 a side... 110
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normally i do 30 kilos a side... 66 a side
once i did 50 a side... 110
you mean normally no drugs.
once drugs?
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without... 3 months ago i took gh for 2 months... but i could handle that weight before... is that good?
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Hit 105's for 5....
Kicked them up and did'nt need help on the first rep like most ppl do :D
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i'd say anything 100 pound db's or over would be heavy on overhead db presses.
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without... 3 months ago i took gh for 2 months... but i could handle that weight before... is that good?
You look like you couldn't lift a 110 pound db off the floor. ::)
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how come fat fat fat alex's video of him doing half rep shit reps on barbell press is not available anymore?
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Then you must have your ass off the bench then pelvis thrusted foward as from that pic you clearly are working your chest more than your deltoids...
Keep your lower back hard against the back rest then you will be doing a shoulder press .hope that helps :-*
It's a free standing bench, not bolted down to the floor. Again, I'd be on my ass with a broken back.
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Right now I'm doing 32kg (70lbs) x 8, at my strongest I did 40kg (88lbs) x 8.
So 105 would be very heavy for me.
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I cleaned 105 DB's before and sat back on bench...pin came out and i flew back...lucky i held onto them like a bench position...needless to say i nearly pooped my pants and i was shitting them the next set lol