What's considered "heavy" on dumbell shoulder presses?

[affy]

Golf..........and internal/external rotations, scapula retractions, medicine ball circuits.

gayer then doing yoga naked

[candidizzle]

gayer then doing yoga naked

FAIL

nothign at all gay about doing yoga naked, bro

[chaos]

FAIL

nothign at all gay about doing yoga naked, bro

Gayer than defending guys that do yoga naked.

[candidizzle]

Gayer than defending guys that do yoga naked.

i was defending myself 

[chaos]

i was defending myself 

So, you outgay yourself?

[The Coach]

LOL. You really are gettin gold, eh "The Coach".

I do it for shoulder rehab, besides it's a harder workout without destroying my joints and stabilizers.

[willie mosconi]

beyond a certain point, it is too difficult to go superheavy on dumbbell militaries- it is such a pain to get them in position. Better to just switch to a barbell or a machine

[Ursus]

i have cleaned 110's from floor to shoulder then sat down on bench and pressed.

Yes its tough though i have been doing it that way since i could only press 60's so im used to it and its made me stronger

[WillGrant]

If you would have bothered to look at the bench (incline) on the right side of the pic, you can see the difference. (I can't believe I have to explain this )

The bench you are using is correct , but you are not,you have slipped foward turning into an incline press.

[slaveboy1980]

ok

exactly.

[Bluto]

dennis wolf do half reps from chin to above his hair smith machine

frank mcgrath do them from mouth up to full straighten arms smith machine

branch warren do them free bb very fast from bouncing at his chest to almost straighten arms

charles glass got his clients do them from nose to fully straighten arms in the smith, but with elbows to the front

dorian yates do them from chin to fully straighten arms in the smith

lee haney did front bb presses from under the chin to fully straighten arms

i hope us getbiggers can agree on how to do them so we can teach the pros the right way

[Ursus]

dennis wolf do half reps from chin to above his hair smith machine

frank mcgrath do them from mouth up to full straighten arms smith machine

branch warren do them free bb very fast from bouncing at his chest to almost straighten arms

charles glass got his clients do them from nose to fully straighten arms in the smith, but with elbows to the front

dorian yates do them from chin to fully straighten arms in the smith

lee haney did front bb presses from under the chin to fully straighten arms

i hope us getbiggers can agree on how to do them so we can teach the pros the right way

I am correct

[The Coach]

The bench you are using is correct , but you are not,you have slipped foward turning into an incline press.

How can I "slip" further? the seat is only about 8-10" if I slipped any further I'd be on my ass.

[The_Hammer]

dennis wolf do half reps from chin to above his hair smith machine

frank mcgrath do them from mouth up to full straighten arms smith machine

branch warren do them free bb very fast from bouncing at his chest to almost straighten arms

charles glass got his clients do them from nose to fully straighten arms in the smith, but with elbows to the front

dorian yates do them from chin to fully straighten arms in the smith

lee haney did front bb presses from under the chin to fully straighten arms

i hope us getbiggers can agree on how to do them so we can teach the pros the right way

Outta all the guys you listed, tell me who's shoulders are the best?  Wolf's style keeps the pressure on the delts.  I believe Ronnie also did this.  I'll work triceps on tricep day.

[The_Hammer]

[WillGrant]

How can I "slip" further? the seat is only about 8-10" if I slipped any further I'd be on my ass.

Then you must have your ass off the bench then pelvis thrusted foward as from that pic you clearly are working your chest more than your deltoids...
Keep your lower back hard against the back rest then you will be doing a shoulder press .

hope that helps 

[The Coach]

Then you must have your ass off the bench then pelvis thrusted foward as from that pic you clearly are working your chest more than your deltoids...
Keep your lower back hard against the back rest then you will be doing a shoulder press .

hope that helps 

Nope, I rarely cheat and when I do it's still a strict movement.

[chaos]

Nope, I rarely cheat and when I do it's still a strict movement.

You won't accept it, will you? You always have to be right, even when you are wrong.

[Bluto]

Outta all the guys you listed, tell me who's shoulders are the best?  Wolf's style keeps the pressure on the delts.  I believe Ronnie also did this.  I'll work triceps on tricep day.

so how long you been doing that style of presses and have it worked for you

[slaveboy1980]

dennis wolf do half reps from chin to above his hair smith machine

frank mcgrath do them from mouth up to full straighten arms smith machine

branch warren do them free bb very fast from bouncing at his chest to almost straighten arms

charles glass got his clients do them from nose to fully straighten arms in the smith, but with elbows to the front

dorian yates do them from chin to fully straighten arms in the smith

lee haney did front bb presses from under the chin to fully straighten arms

i hope us getbiggers can agree on how to do them so we can teach the pros the right way

alot of the muscle tears that we have seen in pro bodybuilding is due to training with limited ROM (combined with AAS use ...which increases the risk further)). full range of motion (in general) is alot safer for the muscles.

[Bluto]

alot of the muscle tears that we have seen in pro bodybuilding is due to training with limited ROM (combined with AAS use ...which increases the risk further)). full range of motion (in general) is alot safer for the muscles.

the hammer recommends limited rom as used by dennis wolf

[peroni]

Heavy is whatever weight you struggle with

[Ursus]

True heavy is relative...However in general 100lbs for reps with full ROM is good for 185lb plus guys.

85-90'9 pretty good for lighter guys

[Bluto]

True heavy is relative...However in general 100lbs for reps with full ROM is good for 185lb plus guys.

85-90'9 pretty good for lighter guys

no one that posts on on getbig is that tiny

[Ursus]

no one that posts on on getbig is that tiny

sorry adjust those poundages to kilos lol