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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Meltdown on May 26, 2008, 03:20:28 PM
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Fuk there is so much CRAP on this board but if you mention IFBB and Money Boom GONE.Why DELETE a question Chick? it was a genuine question.With everything costing more when is the IFBB going to get promoters to increase that 10k 1st place and 1k for 5th at Grand Prix shows.FFS Nite clubs give away more for a Door Prize. ::)
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This is a legitimate concern. With the rise in fuel prices and airline tickets, who is going to pay their own way to a 2nd tier show and leave losing even more money than before.
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It's a f..kin joke, they were giving that same amount over 10 years ago, hahah today's pros are making less than yester years, hahahahaha
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This thread won't last long before being Deleted but they will tell you the shows pay more now.Bullshit Grand Prix 10k for 1st and 1k for 5th.WOW that's a real Pro sport payment 10k how many people have seen bigger prizes at a local raffle or a Nite club door prize. ::)
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It's a f..kin joke, they were giving that same amount over 10 years ago, hahah today's pros are making less than yester years, hahahahaha
They will try and tell you the Money is much better Now.Not for Grand Prix shows.
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They will try and tell you the Money is much better Now.Not for Grand Prix shows.
Bro' they don't "compete" in this "sport" for money, fuck no. They do it for the love of the iron! The "fans", the thrill of gay men screaming for you! The horror of it all! And lets no forget all of the "alternate" routes to making cash in the IFBB, so many opportunities....just look at DA and "hank woods" mentor and guide, "Sami the Black Smith". Thats all the evidence you need right there.
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Get your thread DELETED.Fuk there is so much CRAP on this board but if you mention IFBB and Money Boom GONE.Why DELETE a question Chick? it was a genuine question.With everything costing more when is the IFBB going to get promoters to increase that 10k 1st place and 1k for 5th at Grand Prix shows.FFS Nite clubs give away more for a Door Prize. ::)
The IFBB just pretends that inflation does not exist. Having the same prize money they did ten years ago is in fact paying significantly LESS prize money now than they did back then. But they just tell the "athletes" that "hey, we're paying the same as we always were", counting on these mental giants on steroids not to have a clue about inflation and how it works. They're probably right. ;D
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Yes you Gotta laugh that these so called IFBB Pros make as much for a Pro Grand Prix Win as the local door raffle. ;D
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Yes you Gotta laugh that these so called IFBB Pros make as much for a Pro Grand Prix Win as the local door raffle. ;D
The irony of your Getbig handle is not lost on me.
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only 10k for a pro show? :-\
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In before deletion of thread mocking the ifbb's pathetic payouts.
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These guys are not competing for the money. They are competeing for the title. They would do it for free so the amount means nothing to them.
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How does one put money into these shows? E.g., $1,000 extra for the best posing award or something along those lines?
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Bro' they don't "compete" in this "sport" for money, fuck no. They do it for the love of the iron! The "fans", the thrill of gay men screaming for you! The horror of it all! And lets no forget all of the "alternate" routes to making cash in the IFBB, so many opportunities....just look at DA and "hank woods" mentor and guide, "Sami the Black Smith". Thats all the evidence you need right there.
The truth.
These guys are not competing for the money. They are competeing for the title. They would do it for free so the amount means nothing to them.
IFBB version of the truth.
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The truth.
IFBB version of the truth.
DonkeyKong's truth = affraid to show any proof of reality --> fantasy world.
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DonkeyKong's truth = affraid to show any proof of reality --> fantasy world.
lol, why do you guys get so mad because i don't post pics?
fantasy world? I live in the real world, getbig does not belong to that.
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lol, why do you guys get so mad because i don't post pics?
fantasy world? I live in the real world, getbig does not belong to that.
The Fantasy of thinking that you matter without showing that you can walk the walk.
Welcome to irrelevancy territory.
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The Fantasy of thinking that you matter without showing that you can walk the walk.
Welcome to irrelevancy territory.
lol, i don't care if you think i can "walk the walk".
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lol, i don't care if you think i can "walk the walk".
You obviously can't or otherwise wouldn't mind proving it like all other getbiggers who matter.
You're done. Next.
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You obviously can't or otherwise wouldn't mind proving it like all other getbiggers who matter.
You're done. Next.
i think we are having just a conversation here.
Not trying to prove anything.
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These guys are not competing for the money. They are competeing for the title. They would do it for free so the amount means nothing to them.
Most of 'em do....
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These guys are not competing for the money. They are competeing for the title. They would do it for free so the amount means nothing to them.
Do the trainers and 'guru's' do it for the title?
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donkey kong is a personal friend of mine, leave him alone
;D ;D ;D
Thanks for the support.
If you come to germany, beer is on me. ;D ;D
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Get your thread DELETED.Fuk there is so much CRAP on this board but if you mention IFBB and Money Boom GONE.Why DELETE a question Chick? it was a genuine question.With everything costing more when is the IFBB going to get promoters to increase that 10k 1st place and 1k for 5th at Grand Prix shows.FFS Nite clubs give away more for a Door Prize. ::)
Everyone in the business would love to see more money being handed out to the athletes but unfortunately running shows is not as profitable as everyone seems to think.
I've attended most of the Grand Prix over the last 10 or 12 years and for the most part the ticket sales and sponsorships have declined which is the reason there are far less shows now than in previous years.
Ultimately the fans determine the prize money, not by complaining on a forum but by buying a ticket.
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Everyone in the business would love to see more money being handed out to the athletes but unfortunately running shows is not as profitable as everyone seems to think.
I've attended most of the Grand Prix over the last 10 or 12 years and for the most part the ticket sales and sponsorships have declined which is the reason there are far less shows now than in previous years.
Ultimately the fans determine the prize money, not by complaining on a forum but by buying a ticket.
How about losing the ugly physics, the overflowing drug use, the gay costumes and so on, then maybe, maybe some more heterosexuals would show up on these "Grand Prix".
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sucking dicks of arab multibillionar cheicks is profitable, and that's the culprit of a career for an ifbb "pro", if you can't be the best of em all and earn a living from the supps companies.
jay must be the only one who doesnt need to pose fo old rich men noawadays, but we all know he may have had to do it in the past to get where he is.
All in all, they all posed in front of gay men to survive at some point in their life.. That's "pro bbing" for you.
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Wow it's good to see a thread with so much Truth not being DELETED and it's good to see a thread with mention of IFBB and No Chick jumping in to swear they are doing the right thing by keeping the Money Low as the IFBB don't want Pros wasting more money on Drugs.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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seriously what kind of career is bodybuilding? its just a hobby, anyone that takes it to seriously has def let the roids get to there brain.
i love training hard and looking great, but i'd rather be a janitor then a IFBB pro.
A very Good point it is a hobby.But FFS you would think as a Pro you could make some Money from competing Esp in Grand Prix shows 10k is not going to cover costs and as for 5th 1k is about the cost of 4weeks diet food.All this talk about Promoters NOT making MONEY is Bullshit they would not run the Fukin show at a loss.FACT.
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Promoters know that the competitiors are desperate.
FACT everybody knows IFBB Pros are desperate.
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Hey don't get mad at me for telling the truth. I would love to see a boatload more money for these guys but it's not there and like I said money is not top priority for these guys.
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Hey don't get mad at me for telling the truth. I would love to see a boatload more money for these guys but it's not there and like I said money is not top priority for these guys.
No Drug Abuse is 1st Priority then Play station 3 then Schmoes.FFS how sad is that.Like I have said many times Nite club door prize = More Money than IFBB Grand Prix Prize money.
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Hey don't get mad at me for telling the truth. I would love to see a boatload more money for these guys but it's not there and like I said money is not top priority for these guys.
Thank Christ it's Not a Priority 10k 1st place at an IFBB Grand Prix is a Fukin JOKE.
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I can see where you are all coming from, however as a pro promoter I don't know where this extra money should come from. As it is sponsors are very hard to sign, increasing their rate will make it harder. As it stands, they all expect extra special deals and to pay less, not more.
The real core fans are happy to pay high prices to see the pros but the next tier of fans and potential new fans complain about the price of tickets now. So how will they be if we put the prices up? I am the only small show promoter that pays all accommodation for all the pros, should I make them pay their own costs and put that money into prizemoney? Personally I like to look after the new guys in this way because they probably need it the most.
I do not make huge dollars putting on proshows, I actually lost on the first 2. When you consider the hours that go into it, it is not that smart to do from a business sense. I am not complaining just trying to answer your questions the best I can. This thread is still here, so there goes the conspiracy theory.
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Why Not ask the IFBB to reduce the cost from their Sanction Fee and Free air flights and accommodation for all Judges and at the end of the day the Pros who make the Fukin Show get Fuk all.All those IFBB Tax Free dollars are going somewhere it's not going to Pros.As for Conspiracy theory why the Fuk do you always have to start another thread when it comes to this Shit.1st Thread Deleted as will this one be.Mention some poor Fuk full of Synthol and it stays forever but other more to the point subjects get Deleted.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmm.
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How does one put money into these shows? E.g., $1,000 extra for the best posing award or something along those lines?
Bump.
Can anyone steer me in the right direction? I think even putting down as little as $1,000 on some of the shows (Olympia, Arnold, Ironman, NY Pro) could do wonders for advertising my website. Not to mention, $1,000 will maybe cover the food bill of a top bodybuilder for a few weeks. ;D
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Why Not ask the IFBB to reduce the cost from their Sanction Fee and Free air flights and accommodation for all Judges and at the end of the day the Pros who make the Fukin Show get Fuk all.All those IFBB Tax Free dollars are going somewhere it's not going to Pros.As for Conspiracy theory why the Fuk do you always have to start another thread when it comes to this Shit.1st Thread Deleted as will this one be.Mention some poor Fuk full of Synthol and it stays forever but other more to the point subjects get Deleted.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmm.
They will not reduce sanction fee. I cannot delete threads so I don't know about that. I pay tax so I cannot speak for anyone else. I try to use as many local judges as possible to keep the costs down.
The best solution would be to get some $$$ from a company outside bodybuilding but that is fuckin hard work, having said that we keep trying. I am all for the athletes getting more cash, they work hard for sweet FA. The bigger picture is that pros get bigger contracts when they win pro contests and at least one supp company matches the prizemoney if their athletes win shows.
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Sweet FA is a FACT.
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How weak are IFBB Pros when they compete for so very little.Promoters and IFBB would have to increase Fukin Prize money if they didn't turn up at shows.No Pros No Fukin show simple.Tell me one other sports Pro who would be happy with 10k for 1st and 1k for 5th.FFS these guys are not Stupid it's time they boycott these Non paying shows.
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I can see where you are all coming from, however as a pro promoter I don't know where this extra money should come from. As it is sponsors are very hard to sign, increasing their rate will make it harder. As it stands, they all expect extra special deals and to pay less, not more.
The real core fans are happy to pay high prices to see the pros but the next tier of fans and potential new fans complain about the price of tickets now. So how will they be if we put the prices up? I am the only small show promoter that pays all accommodation for all the pros, should I make them pay their own costs and put that money into prizemoney? Personally I like to look after the new guys in this way because they probably need it the most.
I do not make huge dollars putting on proshows, I actually lost on the first 2. When you consider the hours that go into it, it is not that smart to do from a business sense. I am not complaining just trying to answer your questions the best I can. This thread is still here, so there goes the conspiracy theory.
How did you turn it around after losing on the first 2? More sponsorship? More experience for you? You held a meat raffle during intermission?
Did you lose money when you took it to Brisbane?
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The market will determine what the prize money is and apparently that isn't very much.
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Pretty soon some IFBB pros will be entering the annual Mr. Getbig.
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Pretty soon some IFBB pros will be entering the annual Mr. Getbig.
FFS the Getbig Prize is worth as much as 3rd in a IFBB Grand Prix show.Now you may just understand how Fukin SAD the state of affairs are.IFBB Pro = BROKE.
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hahaha...who needs $10k for a show when they are getting all g4p? so sad!
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Pretty soon some IFBB pros will be entering the annual Mr. Getbig.
;D
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How did you turn it around after losing on the first 2? More sponsorship? More experience for you? You held a meat raffle during intermission?
Did you lose money when you took it to Brisbane?
Experience helped, the Australian dollar got stronger and people started to believe in the show. The first year especially, people had a wait and see if it's really on sort of attitude.
The Gold Coast show did not lose money but the hours I put in were pretty much unpaid and I was so busy on the show that my gym went back a step. Honestly, it was the hardest thing I have ever done, taking the show on the road. Having said that it was personally a very rewarding contest. The venue was awesome but cost 30k for one day. It was a mad line up and having Vince and Benfatto both doing their comeback was something else. It is not always about money.
I might try a chook raffle next year.
TD
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I have been getting your newsletters Tony, great stuff, i hope i get a chance to come up to melbourne and check out your gym..maybe later in the year.
Let me know when you are coming mate, you will be very welcome. I will be MC at nationals this year so I might catch you then. For any other Aussies, check out the Wolf tour...
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Everyone in the business would love to see more money being handed out to the athletes but unfortunately running shows is not as profitable as everyone seems to think.
Perhaps if the IFBB lowered the thousands of dollars they get in "sanction fees" they charge the promoter for doing basically nothing this would not be as much of an issue. ::)
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The sports a hard sell to sponsors when the guys look the way they do, and for that you can blame the judging, and lack of drug testing. Drug testing needs to be introduced to minimise drug use and bring physiques back to a realistic level of development, and also help with the hard sell to business.
Steroid use is illegal, Nike, Adidas all companies are very concerned about their image, but they sponsor athletes who use drugs but not as openly as bodybuilders, they are tested and compete in organisations where there is testing to give the illusion that the sport is clean, no sport is clean, and if the athletes they sponsor are caught they dump them.
If the 100mm sprint was conducted under no testing whatsoever guys would be running 9.5 say for example, if they were running totally clean 10.0, but as they run in a tested environment where they still use drugs they run 9.7, as they cannot maximise they drug taking potential.
Bodybuilding would benefit from a drug tested federation, where athletes are promoted as clean had to do drug tests that would force guys to reduce their drug use, which in turn would reduce the sizes of their physiques this coupled with an aggressive new marketing approach could work in attracting other sponsors to our sport which could result in higher prize money and contracts for the athletes.
But all of this is pro active and requires investment and does not guarantee more money for the federation. This coupled with the fact that guys continue to risk their health and are happy to spend more money getting ready for shows than what they would win, is a huge determining factor in the federation not having to do anything.
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Bodybuilding would benefit from the elimination of insulin.
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Bodybuilding would benefit from the elimination of Milos insulin.
;D
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The sports a hard sell to sponsors when the guys look the way they do, and for that you can blame the judging, and lack of drug testing. Drug testing needs to be introduced to minimise drug use and bring physiques back to a realistic level of development, and also help with the hard sell to business.
Steroid use is illegal, Nike, Adidas all companies are very concerned about their image, but they sponsor athletes who use drugs but not as openly as bodybuilders, they are tested and compete in organisations where there is testing to give the illusion that the sport is clean, no sport is clean, and if the athletes they sponsor are caught they dump them.
If the 100mm sprint was conducted under no testing whatsoever guys would be running 9.5 say for example, if they were running totally clean 10.0, but as they run in a tested environment where they still use drugs they run 9.7, as they cannot maximise they drug taking potential.
Bodybuilding would benefit from a drug tested federation, where athletes are promoted as clean had to do drug tests that would force guys to reduce their drug use, which in turn would reduce the sizes of their physiques this coupled with an aggressive new marketing approach could work in attracting other sponsors to our sport which could result in higher prize money and contracts for the athletes.
But all of this is pro active and requires investment and does not guarantee more money for the federation. This coupled with the fact that guys continue to risk their health and are happy to spend more money getting ready for shows than what they would win, is a huge determining factor in the federation not having to do anything.
and what of the current pro's? a circus freak side show?
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At least if the IFBB used their Own Drug Rules the promoter would not have to worry about the competitors getting arrested and held before their shows.Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Benfatto,and plenty of others get busted.Fuk Benfatto got such a Fine that even if he had placed 2nd he would have LOST money.Now that is a Fukin JOKE.
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These guys are not competing for the money. They are competeing for the title. They would do it for free so the amount means nothing to them.
that's right.. they are not competing for the 10K... They are competing for the $35 statue
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and what of the current pro's? a circus freak side show?
Some would reduce their use and look better. Some wouldn't be able to figure out how and would exit the sport. Only problem is, insulin is a far bigger factor than AAS in the bloated looks of today, and you can't test for that.
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So much Risk for so very Little. ::)
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Use insulin on its own for a while and see how good it is, even with hgh its not that flash chuck a gram of test in and some anabolics and it gets going, but both hgh and insulin without aas are over rated, even when combined with clen.
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I thought Drug use was banned by the IFBB hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMM. ::)
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Bump.
Can anyone steer me in the right direction? I think even putting down as little as $1,000 on some of the shows (Olympia, Arnold, Ironman, NY Pro) could do wonders for advertising my website. Not to mention, $1,000 will maybe cover the food bill of a top bodybuilder for a few weeks. ;D
Have a chat with Shawn Ray about it as he's done this a few times.
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Use insulin on its own for a while and see how good it is, even with hgh its not that flash chuck a gram of test in and some anabolics and it gets going, but both hgh and insulin without aas are over rated, even when combined with clen.
poor idiot.
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Let me know when you are coming mate, you will be very welcome. I will be MC at nationals this year so I might catch you then. For any other Aussies, check out the Wolf tour...
"MUSCLETECH" hmmmmmmmm...
seriously what happened to that "call" which Dennis was supposed to get from the MS representative?
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Next time your in a Nite Club and they give away 10k or more for a door prize think of the POOR IFBB Pros competing in Grand Prix shows for less.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmm.
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How about Meltdown comes aboard and helps to give more prize money.
Hmm... instead of complaining left and right, why not come help.
On the smaller shows, with various costs, and we have gone over this before, it is more difficult to give more prize money without sponsorships. Hey, you need a myriad of sponsorships to increase prize money now.
So instead of mocking, how about a serious discussion. Are you capable of that?
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It's impossible to give more Prize money when the IFBB take so much from the sport.Pros just need to set the standard of what they will except as Prize money and NOT compete for less.Maybe Getbig could put a little extra cash up.They are on the IFBB Pro site as a supporter.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm.
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This would be an easy problem to fix. If the pros aren't earning anything from these $20k shows, they should ban together and boycott any show that doesn't offer $50k minimum prize money. There would be fewer shows, but there's not enough talent in the IFBB to support 8-10 shows each year anyways. Make the IFBB come up with a strategy for improvement and work with the promoters to develop ideas instead of just standing on the sideline collecting sanction fee checks.
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This would be an easy problem to fix. If the pros aren't earning anything from these $20k shows, they should ban together and boycott any show that doesn't offer $50k minimum prize money. There would be fewer shows, but there's not enough talent in the IFBB to support 8-10 shows each year anyways. Make the IFBB come up with a strategy for improvement and work with the promoters to develop ideas instead of just standing on the sideline collecting sanction fee checks.
This sounds good.
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This would be an easy problem to fix. If the pros aren't earning anything from these $20k shows, they should ban together and boycott any show that doesn't offer $50k minimum prize money. There would be fewer shows, but there's not enough talent in the IFBB to support 8-10 shows each year anyways. Make the IFBB come up with a strategy for improvement and work with the promoters to develop ideas instead of just standing on the sideline collecting sanction fee checks.
Only problem with that is....this is America and someone will always whore themself out to put their foot in the door for a cheaper price...hince upper Amercian management... ;)
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Another Great Point.
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Have a chat with Shawn Ray about it as he's done this a few times.
shawn is a great man
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shawn is a great man sucks a mean tranny cock!
Fixed.
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At least Shawn put up some Big Dollars.He was a great promoter it's a shame others are not like him.HmMMMMMMMMMMM.
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At least Shawn put up some Big Dollars.He was a great promoter it's a shame others are not like him.HmMMMMMMMMMMM.
if you stand back for a minute....and think about the other major sports on who makes the most money(which is actually done alot in bodybuilding) ...your answer will be the ATHLETES.. i guarantee you that 90% of all nba and nfl players make more money than any of the staff member and GMs. Its seems to be a trend among the major sports. No one in the lakers organization makes remotely close to kobe or the league minimum a year ..maybe GMs...no one working around nfl players makes more than the players themselves....EVERYONE THAT WORKS AROUND BODYBUILDING makes more than the athletes!!!! weird............the whole thing about no having any money is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!! bodybuilding.com was SOLD FOR 300 MILLION!!! WHY ARENT THEY RUNNING A SHOW???? THE NITRIC OXIDE BUSINESS IS A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS ITSELF!!! ATHLETES IN THE IFBB NEED TO STAND THE FUK UP AND STOP BEING PUSSIES......BOYCOTT OR DO SOMETHING...
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............the whole thing about no having any money is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!! bodybuilding.com was SOLD FOR 300 MILLION!!! WHY ARENT THEY RUNNING A SHOW???? THE NITRIC OXIDE BUSINESS IS A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS ITSELF!!! ATHLETES IN THE IFBB NEED TO STAND THE FUK UP AND STOP BEING PUSSIES......BOYCOTT OR DO SOMETHING...
Supplements can exist without pro bodybuilding. 90+% of people trying to get in shape know nothing about IFBB pro bodybuilding and couldn't care less. So pro bodybuilding really has no legitimate claim on the hundreds of millions generated by the supplement companies.
There is no money in pro bodybuilding. Do you know why other sports have money? Because LOTS of people watch their events. They pay for tickets to go to games, and millions more watch on TV. Then, advertisers pay top dollar to put their message in front of all those people. Then there's even more money in licensing their teams' logos for products that people buy. Bodybuilding has none of that. As long as there are only 10,000 people watching their premire event, and only a few hundred watching most other events, there will be very limited money in the sport itself.
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Supplements can exist without pro bodybuilding. 90+% of people trying to get in shape know nothing about IFBB pro bodybuilding and couldn't care less. So pro bodybuilding really has no legitimate claim on the hundreds of millions generated by the supplement companies.
There is no money in pro bodybuilding. Do you know why other sports have money? Because LOTS of people watch their events. They pay for tickets to go to games, and millions more watch on TV. Then, advertisers pay top dollar to put their message in front of all those people. Then there's even more money in licensing their teams' logos for products that people buy. Bodybuilding has none of that. As long as there are only 10,000 people watching their premire event, and only a few hundred watching most other events, there will be very limited money in the sport itself.
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LOOK....k, not every show has to has a million dollar prize....but for godsake, can the winning prize money be more than 10,000 dollars?...20,000?...u know what years of stagnant prize money says, ATHLETES ARE BEING ROBBED FOR WHO THEY ARE.its bullshit, the reason why its still stagnant is because of the pure fact that bodybuilders have no word in the federation, its a politic ruled sport.u talk , you lose. you live with what you got..no other sport is like that.... ..if you were to take out like you said the bodybuilders off the mags, that means you would have to erase all the major magazines, the arnold classic, fit expos....thats alot of money being lost in every company...
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LOOK....k, not every show has to has a million dollar prize....but for godsake, can the winning prize money be more than 10,000 dollars?...20,000?...u know what years of stagnant prize money says, ATHLETES ARE BEING ROBBED FOR WHO THEY ARE.its bullshit, the reason why its still stagnant is because of the pure fact that bodybuilders have no word in the federation, its a politic ruled sport.u talk , you lose. you live with what you got..no other sport is like that.... ..if you were to take out like you said the bodybuilders off the mags, that means you would have to erase all the major magazines, the arnold classic, fit expos....thats alot of money being lost in every company...
An average professional baseball team rakes in more revenue in a week than all of professional bodybuilding takes in in a year. Athletes in each sport are paid accordingly. You do the math... it's simple economics, supply and demand.
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The comment about if pro BB was gone, one would have to erase the Arnold is off base. BB is now such a small part of the Arnold, it could easily exist without it.
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if you stand back for a minute....and think about the other major sports on who makes the most money(which is actually done alot in bodybuilding) ...your answer will be the ATHLETES.. i guarantee you that 90% of all nba and nfl players make more money than any of the staff member and GMs. Its seems to be a trend among the major sports. No one in the lakers organization makes remotely close to kobe or the league minimum a year ..maybe GMs...no one working around nfl players makes more than the players themselves....EVERYONE THAT WORKS AROUND BODYBUILDING makes more than the athletes!!!! weird............the whole thing about no having any money is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!! bodybuilding.com was SOLD FOR 300 MILLION!!! WHY ARENT THEY RUNNING A SHOW???? THE NITRIC OXIDE BUSINESS IS A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS ITSELF!!! ATHLETES IN THE IFBB NEED TO STAND THE FUK UP AND STOP BEING PUSSIES......BOYCOTT OR DO SOMETHING...
Well said it is a shame that if an IFBB Pro stands up and talks they end up like Priest and Milos and a Pro Rep saying he has done all that he can.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm m.
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The comment about if pro BB was gone, one would have to erase the Arnold is off base. BB is now such a small part of the Arnold, it could easily exist without it.
Crazy, but true! I would say it is at most 20% of it.
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Crazy, but true! I would say it is at most 20% of it.
LOOK....k, not every show has to has a million dollar prize....but for godsake, can the winning prize money be more than 10,000 dollars?...20,000?...u know what years of stagnant prize money says, ATHLETES ARE BEING ROBBED FOR WHO THEY ARE.its bullshit, the reason why its still stagnant is because of the pure fact that bodybuilders have no word in the federation, its a politic ruled sport.u talk , you lose. you live with what you got..no other sport is like that.... ..if you were to take out like you said the bodybuilders off the mags, that means you would have to erase all the major magazines, the arnold classic, fit expos....thats alot of money being lost in every company...
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when u come down to brass tacks,,, i realy dont think the bodybuilders of today can pull in the audiences anymore,,, if they could we wouldnt keep harping on about the 90's.... theres no personalities anymore or top class physiques, ronny was a throw back, theres none id bother my arse to go and see....now a grand prix with yates, levrone, ray, nasser, dillet, preist etc etc,,, doesnt even need promoting... thats why the money isnt there.
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I think there's actually too many shows. Bodybuilding fans will travel to support shows, but there's only a limited number of shows they can afford to attend. Of course, the Olympia and Arnold are the shows of choice for most. I would say there's room for the Olympia, Arnold, and one other big show each year. These small shows have proven that you just can't get enough attendance from drawing on local support. Of course, drug testing, weight classes, and revised judging standards would help too.
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you guys makes some good points...remember this
there was a time in baseball where free agency didn't exist. A team would literally own your rights for life. If you didn't like what they paid you had little recourse. But people like Curt Flood and Marvin Miller changed that, today we can't even imagine not having baseball free agency.
I am not comparing baseball to bodybuilding, I am just drawing an analogy between the limited rights those players had and the current start of BB. Something as basic as being able to compete in other federation warrants a ban for life?
Why shouldn't the Tier 2 bodybuilders be allowed to make money elsewhere? Take someone like Troy Alves, he will never will an IFBB show or even place top 5. And because of that his endorsements are probably minimal.
So why shouldn't be allowed to compete in XYZ show to pick up some change?
when you play this out, this would mean that promoters wouldn't have to pay the IFBB a "sanctioning fee" ::)
which might lead to higher prize money.
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you guys makes some good points...remember this
there was a time in baseball where free agency didn't exist. A team would literally own your rights for life. If you didn't like what they paid you had little recourse. But people like Curt Flood and Marvin Miller changed that, today we can't even imagine not having baseball free agency.
I am not comparing baseball to bodybuilding, I am just drawing an analogy between the limited rights those players had and the current start of BB. Something as basic as being able to compete in other federation warrants a ban for life?
Why shouldn't the Tier 2 bodybuilders be allowed to make money elsewhere? Take someone like Troy Alves, he will never will an IFBB show or even place top 5. And because of that his endorsements are probably minimal.
So why shouldn't be allowed to compete in XYZ show to pick up some change?
when you play this out, this would mean that promoters wouldn't have to pay the IFBB a "sanctioning fee" ::)
which might lead to higher prize money.
as americans we need to understand that anything is possible in america. bodybuilding is not growing because of bad marketing skills....a great example is tv....any type of show at any given time can have good ratings. The marketing gurus understand what the people want. a great example is mtv, they run the shitties shows and still get major ratings....LAGUNA BEACH was one of mtv's all time best show and it was composed of spoiled children with no significant plot. look at all these stupid ass reality tv shows that make huge ratings...
point blank..bodybuilding can be a major sport if marketed right and manuver correctly....there is alot of idiots running the ifbb that need to leave .....
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Another Great Point no matter how you look at it IFBB Grand Prix shows pay Fuk all.It is laughable that you could win more as a Door Prize at a Nite Club.Getbig could throw some Money into the Ring of Pro BB.hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
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Bodybuilding! Hell, even professional boxing on espn is regularly prempted for dog shows, poker tournaments, and cheerleading competitions. If bodybuilding shows could turn a meaningful profit then the IFBB would be irrelevant. If Vince McMahon wasn't able to make a go of it who could? A bodybuilding reality show, in order to attract an audience would have to feature self absorbed freaks, gay for pay and drugs.
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Another positive post. ;D
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Bodybuilding! Hell, even professional boxing on espn is regularly prempted for dog shows, poker tournaments, and cheerleading competitions. If bodybuilding shows could turn a meaningful profit then the IFBB would be irrelevant. If Vince McMahon wasn't able to make a go of it who could? A bodybuilding reality show, in order to attract an audience would have to feature self absorbed freaks, gay for pay and drugs.
NICE.