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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Mussolini on June 01, 2008, 06:07:08 PM
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I would like to comment that I GHB Legally and took it three times a day for 3 weeks leading up to my fight to help make weight, as I have to quit drinking beer about a month out.GHB is by far the best product I have ever used in terms of fat loss, better than ECA, and Clen, IMO. When GHB is taken before sleep, 5 hours of sleep is all one needs as it is all Rem sleep. You wake up totally refreshed and ready to train.I am not advocating obtaining GHB illegally or using it recreationlly, but if you can get it without breaking the law it is a good product and can help with fat loss and recovery.
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how were you able to obtain it legally?
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how were you able to obtain it legally?
Its called xyrem here in Canada, and I said to my Dr, no other sleep medicine works.
I took about 2 grams upon rising, 2 more before my weight training/cardio, and the last dose about 20 mins before sleep.
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Doesnt' it knock you out and make you want to sleep or dose off? How much was it from the pharmacy warehouse? I know they send it out through a central pharmacy,
jt
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through what mechanisms does it cause fat loss
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through what mechanisms does it cause fat loss
I think the extra GH released from the extra Rem Sleep causes it, but im not sure. The anabolic effect of the extra gh released is somewhat negated by the release of of extra prolactin, however I think the fat buring effects of the gh are still just as strong. Ghb also revs your metabolism.
When sleeping on GHB when your out, usually for 4-5 hours, its 4-5 of total Rem sleep. when People sleep 7-8 hours normally only 1.5-2 hours is rem sleep.
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Doesnt' it knock you out and make you want to sleep or dose off? How much was it from the pharmacy warehouse? I know they send it out through a central pharmacy,
jt
I find GHB compliment very well whatever I want to do, be it sleep or train, or work.
It cost me the equivelent to about $200 American for the three weeks. I still have about 7-8 days worth left that im saving for my next fight.
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Its called xyrem here in Canada, and I said to my Dr, no other sleep medicine works.
I took about 2 grams upon rising, 2 more before my weight training/cardio, and the last dose about 20 mins before sleep.
That dosing pattern certainly isn't what the prescribing info says to employ. It's supposed to be taken twice per night (second dose when you wake up approx. 4 hours after the first dose). Were you fighting alcohol withdrawal with it? That's recreational use IMO.
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I would like to comment that I GHB Legally and took it three times a day for 3 weeks leading up to my fight to help make weight, as I have to quit drinking beer about a month out.GHB is by far the best product I have ever used in terms of fat loss, better than ECA, and Clen, IMO. When GHB is taken before sleep, 5 hours of sleep is all one needs as it is all Rem sleep. You wake up totally refreshed and ready to train.I am not advocating obtaining GHB illegally or using it recreationlly, but if you can get it without breaking the law it is a good product and can help with fat loss and recovery.
wouldn't purchasing GHB illegally also make it more cost effective? i mean, lets be honest it isn't like anabolic substances are exactly legal.
thats being said, i too like GHB when i'm using fina as i suffer from insominia something fierce from that compound. but the whole idea of paying that much for it legally doesn't really trun my crank.
are there places online you can by it without a script?
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Does GHB help you get laid???
;D ;D ;D ;D
Use by bodybuilders
Some athletes and bodybuilders also use GHB, as GHB has been shown to elevate human growth hormone in vivo.[29] The growth hormone elevating effects of GHB are mediated through muscarinic acetylcholine receptors and can be prevented by prior administration of pirenzepine, a muscarinic acetylcholine receptor blocking agent.[30]
As certain succinate salts have been shown to elevate growth hormone in vitro[31], being GHB is metabolized into succinate some people have suggested this may play a role in the growth hormone elevations from GHB. There is however currently no evidence to show that succinate plays any role in the growth hormone elevations from GHB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid#Use_by_bodybuilders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid#Use_by_bodybuilders
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That dosing pattern certainly isn't what the prescribing info says to employ. It's supposed to be taken twice per night (second dose when you wake up approx. 4 hours after the first dose). Were you fighting alcohol withdrawal with it? That's recreational use IMO.
nope wasnt fighting alchohol withdrawal, and that dosing pattern is exactly how its perscribed in Europe, for anxiety, depression, ect.
The world standard isnt necessarily based on what American Dr think is safe or not.
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wouldn't purchasing GHB illegally also make it more cost effective? i mean, lets be honest it isn't like anabolic substances are exactly legal.
thats being said, i too like GHB when i'm using fina as i suffer from insominia something fierce from that compound. but the whole idea of paying that much for it legally doesn't really trun my crank.
are there places online you can by it without a script?
I guess that depends on where you get it. Around here its expensive to obtain illegally, around 250$ for a 250 ml bottle.
as for online pharmacy where you can get it, im not sure.
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I guess that depends on where you get it. Around here its expensive to obtain illegally, around 250$ for a 250 ml bottle.
as for online pharmacy where you can get it, im not sure.
and the $200 you spent american gave you how many ml's?
i may just go to my doctor and get a script if it is equal to in cost...
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Its called xyrem here in Canada, and I said to my Dr, no other sleep medicine works.
I took about 2 grams upon rising, 2 more before my weight training/cardio, and the last dose about 20 mins before sleep.
send me a case
mikenlaura@comcast.net
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nope wasnt fighting alchohol withdrawal, and that dosing pattern is exactly how its perscribed in Europe, for anxiety, depression, ect.
The world standard isnt necessarily based on what American Dr think is safe or not.
Which European countries prescribe it that way? I doubt any EU countries.
It's very addictive when taken all day long, which I'm sure you know though.
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Which European countries prescribe it that way? I doubt any EU countries.
It's very addictive when taken all day long, which I'm sure you know though.
Italy and France for sure bro,
http://biopsychiatry.com/ghb/authentic.html
And Im sure it can be addictive if taken for too long. usually you only are recommended to take it that often for 3-4 weeks.
I can attest that I certainly didnt become addicted or have withdrawals and I took it 3 times a day for 3 weeks.
Also
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and the $200 you spent american gave you how many ml's?i may just go to my doctor and get a script if it is equal to in cost...
250 ml, and thats pharmacutical grade. On the street Im sure it would be hard to match the quality.
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send me a case
mikenlaura@comcast.net
the next case I get we'll go splits Mike ;D
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Italy and France for sure bro,
http://biopsychiatry.com/ghb/authentic.html
Just because it has been studied in these settings doesn't mean it's available as an anti-depressant in these countries. I'll look for the status later but I bet it isn't available for these indications. Maybe prescribed experimentally for off-label purposes in very limited fashion. I'm positive you couldn't find it indicated for depression in those countries' PDR's. MDMA has been studied as treatment for PTSD and a bunch of other psych disorders (IIRC in Spain), LSD the same, but good luck in getting a script for it.
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Just because it has been studied in these settings doesn't mean it's available as an anti-depressant in these countries. I'll look for the status later but I bet it isn't available for these indications. Maybe prescribed experimentally for off-label purposes in very limited fashion. I'm positive you couldn't find it indicated for depression in those countries' PDR's. MDMA has been studied as treatment for PTSD and a bunch of other psych disorders (IIRC in Spain), LSD the same, but good luck in getting a script for it.
Actually you could for sure in Italy 3 years ago, as I was a student there and got it, not sure if you still can or not. Cant say I know for sure in France either.
And how can you be positive that you cant get it in those countries? You could by it in the states for christ sake up until 8 years ago. States is the only country I know of that outlawed juice too.
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Um mike you do know that it is highly illegal drug just like cocain or anything else in the same catecory to buy from someone if you don't have a script and the same for musinlnii to sell you his perscribed medicaiton.
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Um mike you do know that it is highly illegal drug just like cocain or anything else in the same catecory to buy from someone if you don't have a script and the same for musinlnii to sell you his perscribed medicaiton.
again, only in the USA.
for you Americans. Try Phenibut. almost the exact same and lasts longer t and is 100% legal in your country, prolly not for long though so hurry.
Takes longer to set in though.
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Actually you could for sure in Italy 3 years ago, as I was a student there and got it, not sure if you still can or not. Cant say I know for sure in France either.
And how can you be positive that you cant get it in those countries? You could by it in the states for christ sake up until 8 years ago. States is the only country I know of that outlawed juice too.
double post
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Actually you could for sure in Italy 3 years ago, as I was a student there and got it, not sure if you still can or not. Cant say I know for sure in France either.
And how can you be positive that you cant get it in those countries? You could by it in the states for christ sake up until 8 years ago. States is the only country I know of that outlawed juice too.
What was it indicated for in your case? What did the doctor write on the Rx?
I don't know the exact legal status but the EU tends to be pretty similar across most countries. I did find some info that in Italy it's a controlled substance.
Juice is very very illegal in most of EU. UK is the most lax from what I know. Personal use isn't illegal but selling is. Kind of like Canada. In Sweden cops can pull a guy off the street if their traps are too big and make them do a drug test. Some think that surely it's legal in Holland since weed is legal. Nope, just like the US. Greece - illegal, Italy - illegal (or otherwise we'd see a lot of Italian made steroids on the black market). Germany - very illegal.
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Mikes in the USA so it would be illegal.
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Mikes in the USA so it would be illegal.
I'm pretty sure Mike was kidding!
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I just wanted to make sure, he put his personal email address down.
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yes exactly, thats what tells me he is just kidding! ;D
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I guess that depends on where you get it. Around here its expensive to obtain illegally, around 250$ for a 250 ml bottle.
as for online pharmacy where you can get it, im not sure.
Really?? GHB perscribed?? WTF? Do you use it the same way. (Taking a cap)?
I live in Canada but usually only pay $250 for a 500ml bottle.
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Really?? GHB perscribed?? WTF? Do you use it the same way. (Taking a cap)?
I live in Canada but usually only pay $250 for a 500ml bottle.
It is called Xyrem and it is liquid at taken in cap form.
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Hey Mussolini what weight class do you fight in? And what org?
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205 bro, that particular fight I weighd in at 202.5 and come fight day the following day I was back up to aroun d 216-17.
that fight was in extreme MMA, david louaseau and GSP's promotion.
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Was GHB on list of banned substances or where you not tested? Have you sold your perscription based GHB to anyone in Canada before or outside of the country?
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Have you sold your perscription based GHB to anyone in Canada before or outside of the country?
What kind of question is that?
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What kind of question is that?
yah really.
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yah really.
Just lookin out for a fellow bro in the game.
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I havent sold it, keeping it all for me. going to another run in August or Sept.
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Its called xyrem here in Canada, and I said to my Dr, no other sleep medicine works.
I took about 2 grams upon rising, 2 more before my weight training/cardio, and the last dose about 20 mins before sleep.
Bro where in Canada did you obtain this !? I've talked to several pharmacists in Toronto and all of them say that Xyrem isn't sold anywhere in Canada, just in the U.S
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send me a case
mikenlaura@comcast.net
Settle down, Michael.
Get your diet straight before you turn to the Darkside.
DIV
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Really?? GHB perscribed?? WTF? Do you use it the same way. (Taking a cap)?
I live in Canada but usually only pay $250 for a 500ml bottle.
Damn dude! I only pay $125
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Bro where in Canada did you obtain this !? I've talked to several pharmacists in Toronto and all of them say that Xyrem isn't sold anywhere in Canada, just in the U.S
Valeant Pharmaceuticals is the company that distributes it In Canada.
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how is it coming off of this product? Are you finding any difficulty sleeping normally after being on it?
I would think that using it through the day would make you feel half no loaded, Doesn't it impair cognition? I know some people who prefer it to drinking saying that it has a similar effect without the hangover
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also prescibed in usa orphan pharmaceuticals makes it called xyrem also unless the other company bought them out. google cognitive enhancement research institute, it is used to treat cocaine heroin and alcohol addiciton as well as depression narcolepsy and insomnia
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GHB Side Effects:
- Abrupt, intense drowsiness
- Decreased body temperature
- Vomiting
- Slower, deep respiration
- Giddiness, silliness and dizziness
- Temporary amnesia
- Interference with mobility and verbal coherence
- Diarrhea
- Semi-consciousness
- Seizure
- Decreased heart rate
- Coma
- Sleep-walking
- Death
why fuk with GHB when ur already on other drugs, just stick to injectible GH if u consider fat loss and get 7-8 hours of natural sleep and u will be fine
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have you ever read the warning for dramamine? says the same thing may cause motion sickness vommting, and that is what is for? the ld50 of GHB is lower per kg of body weight than acetaminophen check look it up. disclaimers from pharm companies are for them to cover their ass
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have you ever read the warning for dramamine? says the same thing may cause motion sickness vommting, and that is what is for? the ld50 of GHB is lower per kg of body weight than acetaminophen check look it up. disclaimers from pharm companies are for them to cover their ass
I never experienced any of those effect, nor do I know anyone who ever has.
GHB rules,
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Doesnt' it knock you out and make you want to sleep or dose off? How much was it from the pharmacy warehouse? I know they send it out through a central pharmacy,
jt
OMG, how did you function? That shit used to knock me out!!!! Well, unless you take it with a Blue Dolphin LOL ;D
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OMG, how did you function? That shit used to knock me out!!!! Well, unless you take it with a Blue Dolphin LOL ;D
I guess it depends on your dose and your tolerance. I felt it complemented whatever it was I wanted to do, be it sleep or workout ect.
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OMG, how did you function? That shit used to knock me out!!!! Well, unless you take it with a Blue Dolphin LOL ;D
a blue dolphin huh ? lol..i remember those..made me horny as fucking hell.... you ever get ahold of a purple mac dre ???
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a blue dolphin huh ? lol..i remember those..made me horny as fucking hell.... you ever get ahold of a purple mac dre ???
isnt each batch of X different. As in in doesnt matter what the stamp is, the ingrediants could be entirely different than the last batch?
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isnt each batch of X different. As in in doesnt matter what the stamp is, the ingrediants could be entirely different than the last batch?
yes and no. sometimes you get people sellign fakes and/or knock offs. most of the time an X chemist/maufacturer will use one color/stamp per batch though.
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yes and no. sometimes you get people sellign fakes and/or knock offs. most of the time an X chemist/maufacturer will use one color/stamp per batch though.
agreed.
one run of one press. then another. if it was good and there is demand you'll see it floating around later as a knock off but not by the same lab.
if you do alot of pills, buy a pill test kit from dancesafe.org.
alot of what people think they are getting as mdma, is usully 2cp or mda. close but not the same thing.
ever come accross white doves back in the day...siiiiiick.
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ever come accross white doves back in the day...siiiiiick.
Yea, those were around when, '92-93'sh? They were pretty close to pure mdma if I recall.
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haha man 92'-93' ? no dude i wasnt even in kindergarten yet.
damn i wish i ha one of those test kits back when i was doing X .. i know for sure at least a couple of times i took a pill of some meth when it was supposed to be X (from what ie heard meth does to you) and a couple of times i know it was just some speed..
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Yea, those were around when, '92-93'sh? They were pretty close to pure mdma if I recall.
I remember those very well along with the chicks I rolled with... Such good memories... :)