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All this talk between trop and candidizzle got me thinking.
In some cases, our bodies CANNOT absorb every calorie we eat, correct?
I have a 1.25 gallon jug of Wesson cooking oil in my kitchen. 315 servings at 110 calories per serving.
That's nearly 40,000 calories.
If I drank that entire container (and managed to avoid vomiting or heart failure), I would not gain 11 or 12 pounds, correct? My body wouldn't be able to hold the oil, it'd pass through me quickly, without my body absorbing every calorie, correct?
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sounds like a good experiment. try it on yourself, keep a video journal and let us know how it turns out.
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no
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All this talk between trop and candidizzle got me thinking.
In some cases, our bodies CANNOT absorb every calorie we eat, correct?
I have a 1.25 gallon jug of Wesson cooking oil in my kitchen. 315 servings at 110 calories per serving.
That's nearly 40,000 calories.
If I drank that entire container (and managed to avoid vomiting or heart failure), I would not gain 11 or 12 pounds, correct? My body wouldn't be able to hold the oil, it'd pass through me quickly, without my body absorbing every calorie, correct?
Only Florence Henderson knows for sure. 8)
/does anyone else remember?
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do it ! take bfore and after pics ;D
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for the sake of bb'ing science you need to do this 240
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for the sake of bb'ing science you need to do this 240
;D :-X
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Try putting it into your diesel engine...
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This is the number one idea that is discounted in any "science" attempting to explain metabolism. Think about taking a shit. How many calories are still in the shit you dump? How much shit do you dump? What conscious (or unconscious) factors dictate just how much food is held onto or passed through? Maybe your body rewards you for indulging your sense of hunger to some extent by seeing to it that you do not get fat from eating exactly what you crave in this way, by passing through more of your Taco Bell than your chicken and rice. And perhaps you are punished for worrying about eating your Slim Fast diet by having your metabolism crash and your gaining more weight like Oprah and a hundred million housewives have done in the past? Perhaps this is one reason that Adonis could get leaner eating junk food as opposed to "diet food." I don't know, but definitely something to think about. I say look at the bigger picture.
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there is only one way to know the truth 240 !
do it !!!
do it for getbig 8)
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240, throw it away and get some extra virgin olive oil (EVOO!! >:() before you heart stops
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there is only one way to know the truth 240 !
do it !!!
do it for getbig 8)
You just stick to the chicken and rice right now, Stav. (Don't get any ideas.) ;D
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All this talk between trop and candidizzle got me thinking.
In some cases, our bodies CANNOT absorb every calorie we eat, correct?
I have a 1.25 gallon jug of Wesson cooking oil in my kitchen. 315 servings at 110 calories per serving.
That's nearly 40,000 calories.
If I drank that entire container (and managed to avoid vomiting or heart failure), I would not gain 11 or 12 pounds, correct? My body wouldn't be able to hold the oil, it'd pass through me quickly, without my body absorbing every calorie, correct?
Try it and tell us what happens :) Be sure to weigh yourself before and after ;D
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dont do it bro. in high school my dumb ass got into a salad dressing chugging contest. I managed 2 bottles of italian dressing and IMMEDIATELY had to shit. I spent the next 2 days shitting with terrible cramps in my guts.
quite possibly the worst idea ever.
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You just stick to the chicken and rice right now, Stav. (Don't get any ideas.) ;D
;D
Mcdonald just came out with an Angus hamburger here, it looks like it tastes great :o
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This is the number one idea that is discounted in any "science" attempting to explain metabolism. Think about taking a shit. How many calories are still in the shit you dump? How much shit do you dump? What conscious (or unconscious) factors dictate just how much food is held onto or passed through? Maybe your body rewards you for indulging your sense of hunger to some extent by seeing to it that you do not get fat from eating exactly what you crave in this way, by passing through more of your Taco Bell than your chicken and rice. And perhaps you are punished for worrying about eating your Slim Fast diet by having your metabolism crash and your gaining more weight like Oprah and a hundred million housewives have done in the past? Perhaps this is one reason that Adonis could get leaner eating junk food as opposed to "diet food." I don't know, but definitely something to think about. I say look at the bigger picture.
Good thoughts here.
You have to imagine that there wouldn't be many groups willing to research this. Look at their motivations. Supplement companies? No, would cut into their business. American Heart Association? I doubt it...
If you eat Taco bell for a week, and count the caloric contetnt of 1 lb of stool, and
then you eat chicken and rice for a week, and count the caloric content of 1 lb of stool..
What would the results show? TA, please chime in on this
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;D
Mcdonald just came out with an Angus hamburger here, it looks like it tastes great :o
We've been a test market for it here since this time last year. I recommend the mushroom and swiss. ;D
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We've been a test market for it here since this time last year. I recommend the mushroom and swiss. ;D
awesome ;D
I'll give you my opinion in a little over a month :D
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awesome ;D
I'll give you my opinion in a little over a month :D
Well be sure to get a large fry and 2 apple pies with it so you can consider it a "meal." ;D
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Well be sure to get a large fry and 2 apple pies with it so you can consider it a "meal." ;D
and a mcflurry !
and 10 mcnuggets 8)
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You'll get diarrhea and shit a lot of it out.
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You'll get diarrhea and shit a lot of it out.
ladies love it, it makes you strange and mysterious when you disapear for no reasons for 5 minutes
they like those things
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and a mcflurry !
and 10 mcnuggets 8)
Actually that is exactly what you will be able to eat for like a long time after the show if you let yourself.
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Actually that is exactly what you will be able to eat for like a long time after the show if you let yourself.
yeah I ate meals like that everyday in the off-season last year
it was awesome but I think I should limit myself to once or twice a week and they other meals would all be clean but I would eat a lot of them.
I fucked my off-season last year,fucking waste of time. it won't happen again 8)
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it was awesome but I think I should limit myself to once or twice a week and they other meals would all be clean but I would eat a lot of them.
Did you ever think of eating less calories from the other foods on the days you east fast food ???
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Did you ever think of eating less calories from the other foods on the days you east fast food ???
Please don't start.
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Please don't start.
Too late pal, but I won't post much because i'm going to the grocery store soon then I'm going to watch some Nick Cage movies.
Are you saying that if a bodybuilder's diet is to eat 3000 clean calories, and they cheat one day... Optimally they should still get all of those 3000 calories Plus the "junk food"? That's just insanity.
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yeah I ate meals like that everyday in the off-season last year
it was awesome but I think I should limit myself to once or twice a week and they other meals would all be clean but I would eat a lot of them.
I fucked my off-season last year,fucking waste of time. it won't happen again 8)
what mistakes did you make? What was your progress in how long?
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Too late pal, but I won't post much because i'm going to the grocery store soon then I'm going to watch some Nick Cage movies.
Are you saying that if a bodybuilder's diet is to eat 3000 clean calories, and they cheat one day... Optimally they should still get all of those 3000 calories Plus the "junk food"? That's just insanity.
That's the definition of cheating.
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what mistakes did you make? What was your progress in how long?
1- didn't eat enough good carbs for one. ( I think I ate more carbs DIETING for the show ::))
2- maybe too much proteins (Like I would make myself some huge burritos eating about a pound of beef for a meal)
3- having junk food counting as a regular meal. I kind of ate way too much junk food lol.
I would go to Mcdonald pretty much everyday and I would eat 2 double bigmacs with 10 mcnuggets and a large fries.
it's hard to say how much muscle I did gain in this off-season because I think I will be lighter than last year.
probably not much than 5 lbs
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This is the number one idea that is discounted in any "science" attempting to explain metabolism. Think about taking a shit. How many calories are still in the shit you dump?
It's not discounted. Come on, scientists aren't all that stupid. :D There's a lot of data on utilization, absorption, etc on nutrients.
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I would go to Mcdonald pretty much everyday and I would eat 2 double bigmacs with 10 mcnuggets and a large fries.
That's a big meal.
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That's a big meal.
yeah a lot of useless calories that did nothing good.
it tasts great tho 8)
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Only Florence Henderson Mrs. Brady knows for sure. 8)
/does anyone else remember?
Does anyone NOT remember her????
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It's not discounted. Come on, scientists aren't all that stupid. :D There's a lot of data on utilization, absorption, etc on nutrients.
I wonder if any of them have done studies testing shit in a bomb calorimeter linking their findings with sample providers' ratings of perceived satiety? Would you happen to have a link? ???
;D
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yeah a lot of useless calories that did nothing good.
it tasts great tho 8)
Yea, eating 2000 calorie meals isn't something you want to do often.
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I watched a video of a guy who pounded something like 40+ egg yolks (might be more--but a ridiculous amount) for some exhibition trying to break a record and he gave himself a stroke immediately :o
permanently fucked himself up :-\
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3- having junk food counting as a regular meal. I kind of ate way too much junk food lol.
I would go to Mcdonald pretty much everyday and I would eat 2 double bigmacs with 10 mcnuggets and a large fries.
i remeber your posts last year when you were talking about just eating one of these meals and saying "i stay lean i stay small ! 8) "
lol
crazy bastard !!
lucky though, to be able to eat like that and not get obese
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Maybe 240 should try the candidizzle diet and eat 30 cans of tuna a day.
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Maybe 240 should try the candidizzle diet and eat 30 cans of tuna a day.
maybe bast shyould try th true adonis diet and eat peaches and 20 grams protein with 40 grams carbs and maybe a small sundae cone at nigth as long as calories stay below 2k everything is good and calorie is a calorie and PROTIEN GONNA MAKE YOU FAT
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maybe bast shyould try th true adonis diet and eat peaches and 20 grams protein with 40 grams carbs and maybe a small sundae cone at nigth as long as calories stay below 2k everything is good and calorie is a calorie and PROTIEN GONNA MAKE YOU FAT
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I think you have gotten fat!
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I had 2 mcdonalds burritos for breakfast today, a few meals of chicken and rice, a can of corn beef hash, then spaghetti/meatballs for dinner. Will have chik rice again later tonight. I just can't eat enough calories.
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All this talk between trop and candidizzle got me thinking.
In some cases, our bodies CANNOT absorb every calorie we eat, correct?
I have a 1.25 gallon jug of Wesson cooking oil in my kitchen. 315 servings at 110 calories per serving.
That's nearly 40,000 calories.
If I drank that entire container (and managed to avoid vomiting or heart failure), I would not gain 11 or 12 pounds, correct? My body wouldn't be able to hold the oil, it'd pass through me quickly, without my body absorbing every calorie, correct?
Do what we used to do. Drink a tablespoon of cod liver oil before every meal. Not much gets absorb in you but you get full. The next morning is quite a show
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I think you have gotten fat!
oh i kknow i ate way oo much chicken and beef now im FAT all that protein man oh man theres just so many CALORIES bastiano the protein makes me fat i cant stand it bastiano please show me the way teach me how important your ever so precious calories are bastiana please show me how to utilize the adam abeles principles
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oh i kknow i ate way oo much chicken and beef now im FAT all that protein man oh man theres just so many CALORIES bastiano the protein makes me fat i cant stand it bastiano please show me the way teach me how important your ever so precious calories are bastiana please show me how to utilize the adam abeles principles
post a pic. How much weight have you gained in the past 6 month? You said you were 235lbs. Weren't you 190lbs not long ago? Too much weight gain = fat gain.
post a pic or you have no credibility in your claim that you can't gain fat on a high protein diet.
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post a pic. How much weight have you gained in the past 6 month? You said you were 235lbs. Weren't you 190lbs not long ago? Too much weight gain = fat gain.
post a pic or you have no credibility in your claim that you can't gain fat on a high protein diet.
bast i am fat and 150 lbs i look like a pillsbury doughboy and i am onnly 4'7'' .... i ate too much meat it just make me get so soft and smal i hate it
teach me the way bast
i need to know the secret of this almighty calories that you worship please show me the way
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bast i am fat and i look like a pillsbury doughboy and i ate too much meat it just make me get so soft
that part I believe.
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that part I believe.
bast i ate way too many calories from meat and now i look like gary coleman but skinnyer and fatter
teach me how to worship the calorie !!
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anyone who has done the "phoney" gallbladder flush using lots of olive oil and lemon juice will tell you exactly what will happen if you drink a boat load of oil at one time...
If your thinking of something like this, atleast switch it to olive oil...And make sure you do a salt water flush before hand...You don't want that oil up there for to long....
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240, find a public place for this so there's help if you collapse. Just do 10 gulp sets. And shout RAPE SEED - YEAAAAHHHH! after every set.
Only Florence Henderson knows for sure. 8)
/does anyone else remember?
I think I'm falling for you Dr Chimps.
Don't suppose you're doing a whole Yentl thing here are ya? You know... without the schnoz.
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ladies love it, it makes you strange and mysterious when you disapear for no reasons for 5 minutes
they like those things
Five minutes? Daddy-o, when buttwater strikes close to home, I'm in the poop house for TWENTY minutes minimum.
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240, find a public place for this so there's help if you collapse. Just do 10 gulp sets. And shout RAPE SEED - YEAAAAHHHH! after every set.
I think I'm falling for you Dr Chimps.
Don't suppose you're doing a whole Yentl thing here are ya? You know... without the schnoz.
LOL. No. Sorry. :-\
/ladies get the full mating ritual. guys get beers and cheeseburgers and a good whoop-up with the full troupe. good enough?
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I had 2 mcdonalds burritos for breakfast today, a few meals of chicken and rice, a can of corn beef hash, then spaghetti/meatballs for dinner. Will have chik rice again later tonight. I just can't eat enough calories.
that's 7 meals ....................you don't think your getting enough calories!??!?!?!??!??!?
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that's 7 meals ....................you don't think your getting enough calories!??!?!?!??!??!?
i don't think he thinks!
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that's 7 meals ....................you don't think your getting enough calories!??!?!?!??!??!?
I would like to gain more weight. Remember, I don't care a lot about competing, I just want to be 200 and strong as hell with some decent cuts. 182 today. So yeah, I'm trying to gain.
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i don't think he thinks!
Rob eats more than i do! (and that's 7 whole food meals Rob is consuming that's not even counting his shakes)
his caloric intake is staggering!
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I would like to gain more weight. Remember, I don't care a lot about competing, I just want to be 200 and strong as hell with some decent cuts. 182 today. So yeah, I'm trying to gain.
come over to the dark side Rob...
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Rob eats more than i do! (and that's 7 whole food meals Rob is consuming that's not even counting his shakes)
his caloric intake is staggering!
I'm burned out on shakes. been doing more whole foods. Despite those pics from 3-4 years ago, when I was in my recliner 14 hours a day and eating all the fast food under the sun, I have a decent metabolism. I'm between 3000 and 4000 a day.
I am super-active though... and I'm only 31, the metabolism is very good now that I walk a lot and eat pretty clean. Sure I have more biscuits and garlic bread than I should, and yes, i know that McD eggs have more fat than I need... but 5 meals each day are pretty clean, and I usually eat the shit food early, then take an hour walk so m belly doesn't hurt..
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I'm burned out on shakes. been doing more whole foods. Despite those pics from 3-4 years ago, when I was in my recliner 14 hours a day and eating all the fast food under the sun, I have a decent metabolism. I'm between 3000 and 4000 a day.
I am super-active though... and I'm only 31, the metabolism is very good now that I walk a lot and eat pretty clean. Sure I have more biscuits and garlic bread than I should, and yes, i know that McD eggs have more fat than I need... but 5 meals each day are pretty clean, and I usually eat the shit food early, then take an hour walk so m belly doesn't hurt..
Im not "shitting" on you or even trying to "backwardly insult you" Rob ...im honestly impressed you can consume 7 whole food meals a day (even with "forced feeding" i cannot),i tend to rely too much on "shakes"
whole food = is better than anything
your doing great!
(just skip the junk)
props!
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I just want to be 200 and strong as hell with some decent cuts.
Not gonna happen naturally. Unless 'decent cuts' means 30%+ body fat.
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Im not "shitting" on you or even trying to "backwardly insult you" Rob ...im honestly impressed you can consume 7 whole food meals a day (even with "forced feeding" i cannot),i tend to rely too much on "shakes"
whole food = is better than anything
your doing great!
(just skip the junk)
props!
thanks man :) they're not giant meals. breakfast today was a biscuit (gave 1/2 of it to the rugrat), pile of rice, and maybe 4 oz of chicken with taco sauce. So they are small meals. and when I am forced to miss a meal (i play in a band til 2 am some nights), I bring food. I have 1 scoop whey and 1-2 granola bars between swets. I know it should be a cold meal in tupperware, but when I have to jump around onstage for 45 minutes, cold sweet potatoes and steak tend to come back up lol... 1 scoop whey and 1 granola bar sit well.
I think people like TA are right, in some ways. If I'm going to either miss a meal, or have a wendys chicken club sandwich, I'm rolling with Wendy's. I can get a baked potato, throw off the cheese and bacon, and have unsweetened tea. being active lets me get away with a lot.
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Not gonna happen naturally. Unless 'decent cuts' means 30%+ body fat.
Doing the math.... I'm about 180 at what, 15% bodyfat here?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=217690.0;attach=255628;image)
That means I'm carrying 28 pounds of fat at the moment, and I'm okay with that.
Even if I got up to 200 pounds at a chunky 20% bodyfat.. that'd be 40 pounds of bodyfat...
That means out of the 20 pounds I want to gain, 12 of them "are allowed" to be fat. Most ppl can add half-half, 20 pounds, in 2 years or so, if they eat a lot and train.
If I can do it leaner - and I think I can - then I'll be 200 at 17, or even 15% bodyfat.
Granted, I don't want to be 20% BF again, and I don't plan on it, and I might even be leaner than 15% now, I don't know. but I think 200 pounds at 15% bodyfat is a reasonable goal for 2 years time.
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thought this might go nicely in this discussion
i recommend the read...its well worth it ;D
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/182862349.html
DO NOT EAT PRINGLES FAT FREE POTATO CHIPS. THEY WILL GREASE YOUR ASS.
Date: 2006-07-17, 2:10AM PDT
Don't even fucking say a word. I like potato chips, and can't eat them very much or I'll get fat.
I tried out these Pringles Fat-Free chips because they were super low-cal. BBQ flavor. the fuck.
The can said they had 70 calories per serving, which meant the whole can had 490 calories inside total. I could munch through a can in a day with my lunch, dinner, etc. So I got several cans, and began enjoying one a day for the past four days. But what they dont fucking tell you...
Except in tiny print you cant read without a fucking electron microscope
...is that the primary ingredient is something called "olean" which I have since learned is Latin for "Unwashable & Indestructible Ass Grease."
Oh Yeah. I'm not even kidding.
So today, while I'm standing in the living room debating whether or not Laundry or Dishes will get done first, I get the urge to fart. I live alone, so sweet. I let the honk loose and its wrong. Something just sounded wrong. I know my own wind, and I have never farted a sound that sounded like a fart wrapped in a pillow.
Oh yes, something was very wrong. I had just shat myself. But this evil olean makes shitting yourself sound almost like a regular fart, and had I not been particularly attentive, it could easily have gone unnoticed, I'm telling you. THAT's how utterly covert and evil this olean stuff is. What the fuck?! What if I'd gone out to hang with friends or gone for a drive, what then?
So I walk carefully to the bathroom and disrobe. before I even sit on the toilet, I wad paper and carefully wipe from the front. Sure enough, it was light brown, and had the texture of soft spackle. You fucking Pringle bastards.
I sat down and pushed a bit, and lo, out came a jet that I didnt even feel an urge for one minute earlier. It piled in the bowl like brown marshmallow fluff.
The problem rose when I tried to wipe. I went through a whole fucking roll of TP and could not get it all off me. So.
I jumped in the shower. Yep, its gross, but it had to be done. There I stood, water pouring down, cheeks spread, and using my own hand to make certain I'm clean.
That was when I discovered that after using my hand to wipe myself (before I soaped the area) my hand came back covered in some sort of transparent grease. It was so fucking foul. The grease made water bead off my hand. It was tacky too, and very difficult to manage.
So I grabbed the bar of saop and went to work.
You fucking Pringle bastards.
The bar of soap came away coated in grease as well, and would no longer wash. I had to turn the water to hot and massage the soap for five minutes to get it to the point where I could use it again. It took me an hour to get the fucking grease off my pucker. I shudder to think of what its doing INSIDE ME right now, but I will damned sure never eat that shit again.
Fucking Pringle bastards.
This is where the joke about "anal leakage" came from. its real. Fuck Pringles.
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I think people like TA are right, in some ways. If I'm going to either miss a meal, or have a wendys chicken club sandwich, I'm rolling with Wendy's. I can get a baked potato, throw off the cheese and bacon, and have unsweetened tea. being active lets me get away with a lot.
adam would tel you not to eat at all.
keep the cheese and bacon. that saturated fat is whats gonna put muscle on you not eatign a bunch of junk carbs
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thought this might go nicely in this discussion
i recommend the read...its well worth it ;D
Those Pringle bastards! ;D
LOL. No. Sorry. :-\
/ladies get the full mating ritual. guys get beers and cheeseburgers and a good whoop-up with the full troupe. good enough?
Wedding's off! >:(
You keep the house 'cause I'm takin' the dog! <vrooooom, screeeeetch>
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I think 200 pounds at 15% bodyfat is a reasonable goal for 2 years time.
I don't. :-\
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thought this might go nicely in this discussion
i recommend the read...its well worth it ;D
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/182862349.html
hahahah great quote
I dont think Ill be eating those chips...ever
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I can't for the life of me understand why eating healthy seems to be so hard for so many.
Tip 1: eat consistent, try for 4-5 smaller meals instead of 3 bigger ones in a day
Tip 2: fats aren't bad, on the contrary, we need it! opt for olive oil, flax seed oil, fatty fish as your fat source.
Tip 3: cut sugars, sugars make you fat! watch out for processed foods (and that's a lot these days), they contain lots of sugars, and instead of using sweeteners, get used to a less sweet taste.
Tip 4: cook your own dinner, so you know what goes in, use proper ingredients, you know, the real stuff!
Tip 5: Don't drown your food in sauce, instead season properly, with real spices and salt and pepper, this way it enhances the flavour of the food, instead of diluting it in a sea of BBQ sauce.
Tip 6: Eat varied and fresh, experiment.
Tip 7: Don't bulk or overeat. When you are active eat a bit more, don't go chugging down massgainers and the like. perhaps an extra protein shake a day. the rest is wasted.
Tip 8: Enjoy eating! don't make it a necessary evil by eating bad/untasty/unhealthy/forced. Good food is to be enjoyed!
I can enjoy a few snacks now and then, stay at 10-12% BF year round and be healthy and energetic. You'll find yourself making a healthy snack more and more often as you get rid of the sugar rush addiction. It's like reeducating your body on what good food is.
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I can't for the life of me understand why eating healthy seems to be so hard for so many.
Tip 1: eat consistent, try for 4-5 smaller meals instead of 3 bigger ones in a day
Tip 2: fats aren't bad, on the contrary, we need it! opt for olive oil, flax seed oil, fatty fish as your fat source.
Tip 3: cut sugars, sugars make you fat! watch out for processed foods (and that's a lot these days), they contain lots of sugars, and instead of using sweeteners, get used to a less sweet taste.
Tip 4: cook your own dinner, so you know what goes in, use proper ingredients, you know, the real stuff!
Tip 5: Don't drown your food in sauce, instead season properly, with real spices and salt and pepper, this way it enhances the flavour of the food, instead of diluting it in a sea of BBQ sauce.
Tip 6: Eat varied and fresh, experiment.
Tip 7: Don't bulk or overeat. When you are active eat a bit more, don't go chugging down massgainers and the like. perhaps an extra protein shake a day. the rest is wasted.
Tip 8: Enjoy eating! don't make it a necessary evil by eating bad/untasty/unhealthy/forced. Good food is to be enjoyed!
I can enjoy a few snacks now and then, stay at 10-12% BF year round and be healthy and energetic. You'll find yourself making a healthy snack more and more often as you get rid of the sugar rush addiction. It's like reeducating your body on what good food is.
Bump for Honto yo!