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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7451691.stm
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Its sad people can't get along
They have been throwing rocks at each other for years over that land
(figure of speach)
I guess the US will feel the need to interveen and
fight against the palistenians.
These 2 groups will never agree and will die before
giving into one another.
They need JesusJuice
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7451691.stm
bbbb but i thought ?? ???
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wonder what "the coach" will have to say about this one..
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If the US stopped sending money over there and changed the lobbying rules, those people would have peace or death within 10 years.
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If the US stopped sending money over there and changed the lobbying rules, those people would have peace or death within 10 years.
israel = 51st state
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Hahahaha lovely ;D
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They have been throwing rocks at each other for years over that land[...]
Throwing rocks? The Palestinians are throwing rocks. The Israelis are responding with misiles.
There's a difference.
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Throwing rocks? The Palestinians are throwing rocks. The Israelis are responding with misiles.
There's a difference.
just a figure of speech.
but yeah main reason we have to stay in Iraq is deployment issues with Iran. No two ways about it Israel will launch an assault once Iran is close to nuclear weapon manufacturing.
Your not going to let your enemy build weapons to "wipe Israel off the map" and they will do it since Allah told them
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just a figure of speech.
but yeah main reason we have to stay in Iraq is deployment issues with Iran. No two ways about it Israel will launch an assault once Iran is close to nuclear weapon manufacturing.
Your not going to let your enemy build weapons to "wipe Israel off the map" and they will do it since Allah told them
Yeah, but let the Israelis deal with those mofos! What must another American life be spent on saving someone else?
Am I the only one who feels some of the world is becoming ultradependent on American military help?
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Yeah, but let the Israelis deal with those mofos! What must another American life be spent on saving someone else?
Am I the only one who feels some of the world is becoming ultradependent on American military help?
No. I say let Israel rot.
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Throwing rocks? The Palestinians are throwing rocks. The Israelis are responding with misiles.
There's a difference.
Actually, the Palestinians have launched 2800 missiles and mortars at Israeli civilians since January 1st, 2008.
But yes, it's ok for Muslims to blindly target civilians. I understand now! ::)
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Actually, the Palestinians have launched 2800 missiles and mortars at Israeli civilians since January 1st, 2008.
But yes, it's ok for Muslims to blindly target civilians. I understand now! ::)
That is one remark that will go down in the annals of GetBig history! You know full well WHO started the fight! You know full well who started the missile atacks! You know full well who is suffering the most!
And besides, it's not the Palestinians who launched the 2,800 missiles, it was radicalized sectors of Hamas and other terrorist groups that have nothing to do with the Palestinians. On the other hand, the full frontal assault on ALL Palestinians, passively and actively, "surgical" or generalized, if being carried out by the Israeli people's army.
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That is one remark that will go down in the annals of GetBig history! You know full well WHO started the fight! You know full well who started the missile atacks! You know full well who is suffering the most!
And besides, it's not the Palestinians who launched the 2,800 missiles, it was radicalized sectors of Hamas and other terrorist groups that have nothing to do with the Palestinians. On the other hand, the full frontal assault on ALL Palestinians, passively and actively, "surgical" or generalized, if being carried out by the Israeli people's army.
Blah, blah, blah. Give me a break with that bullshit. When that Palestinian extremist stormed that Jewish school (whatever it's called) and killed 7 kids and teenagers, people across Palestine were celebrating and firing their weapons in the air.
The Palestinian people also voted Hamas in to power. Shit, they can't even get along with each other. Every Palestinian political party hates the other one and would kill them right alongside the Israelis.
Can you imagine what the world would be saying if Israel started blindly launching 100 rockets a day into Palestine? They would be calling for their heads. Instead, it's ok for some "poor" muslims to do it.
The rest of the Muslim world couldn't give two shits about Palestine and only uses it for cannon fodder. Egypt closed the holes in the border after Hamas blew the wall up, relegating the Palestinians to starving. ::)
The Palestinians are suffering because they refuse to announce Hamas' rocket attacks. Israel gives the wounded Palestinians access to doctors and medical services. If they would stop blatantly attacking civilians, the peace process would start. But Hamas refuses to do that. Thus, the rest of Palestine has to suffer because of extremists.
I have no sympathy for a populace that expects to be treated humanely when they spend their off time trying to kill civilians.
You can't expect to be taken seriously and actually have a chance for peace when you refuse to denounce and stop terrorists from firing thousands of rockets and mortars at civilians. It just doesn't happen.
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Blah, blah, blah. Give me a break with that bullshit. When that Palestinian extremist stormed that Jewish school (whatever it's called) and killed 7 kids and teenagers, people across Palestine were celebrating and firing their weapons in the air.
The Palestinian people also voted Hamas in to power. Shit, they can't even get along with each other. Every Palestinian political party hates the other one and would kill them right alongside the Israelis.
Can you imagine what the world would be saying if Israel started blindly launching 100 rockets a day into Palestine? They would be calling for their heads. Instead, it's ok for some "poor" muslims to do it.
The rest of the Muslim world couldn't give two shits about Palestine and only uses it for cannon fodder. Egypt closed the holes in the border after Hamas blew the wall up, relegating the Palestinians to starving. ::)
The Palestinians are suffering because they refuse to announce Hamas' rocket attacks. Israel gives the wounded Palestinians access to doctors and medical services. If they would stop blatantly attacking civilians, the peace process would start. But Hamas refuses to do that. Thus, the rest of Palestine has to suffer because of extremists.
I have no sympathy for a populace that expects to be treated humanely when they spend their off time trying to kill civilians.
You can't expect to be taken seriously and actually have a chance for peace when you refuse to denounce and stop terrorists from firing thousands of rockets and mortars at civilians. It just doesn't happen.
Look, I ain't gonna waste my time with people who refuse to attend to facts. To all of yous I've got one thing to say: FUCK YOU!
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Look, I ain't gonna waste my time with people who refuse to attend to facts. To all of yous I've got one thing to say: FUCK YOU!
Great response. You're a fucking retard. If you feel like refuting any of my points, type it up in a response. You sound like a 4 year old.
Also, thanks for proving that you don't read or have any grasp of foreign events. ;D
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Ceasing the building of settlements would go a long way.
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Ceasing the building of settlements would go a long way.
Yeah, it's a little foolish of Israel to be expanding into East Jerusalem at a time like this.
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Great response. You're a fucking retard. If you feel like refuting any of my points, type it up in a response. You sound like a 4 year old.
Also, thanks for proving that you don't read or have any grasp of foreign events. ;D
Lookey heah homeboy, there are certain things that prompt no argument, like the case of WHO is doing the suffering between the Palestinians and the Israelis or who is suffering the most between the Chechnyans or the Russians. Argueing against it is not cool, no matter how much you've read against it in the Jew York Times. And I got nothing against the Jews, please, I love the Jews as much as I love all peoples, but we're dropping the proverbial ball here. The Palestinians are going through what the Jews went through in Germany back in the 30s and 40s.
Your argument bears as much truth, honesty and logic as a German citizen complaining about the Jewish resistance groups in Nazi Germany.
I mean, it's stupidly moronic.
An please, do not get upset because i do not respond to your argument, you should get upset because your argument holds more as much water as Coleman's glutes during prejudging at the Olympia. I mean, I know we're going through a phase of Islamophobia and all... But... Come the fuck on man! They're human beings for chrisake!
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Lookey heah homeboy, there are certain things that prompt no argument, like the case of WHO is doing the suffering between the Palestinians and the Israelis, who is suffering the most between the Chechnyans or the Russians. Argueing against it is not cool, no matter how much you've read against it in the Jew York Times. And I got nothing against the Jews, please, I love the Jews as much as I love all peoples, but we're dropping the proverbial ball here. The Palestinians are going through what the Jews went through in Germany back in the 30s and 40s.
Your argument bears as much truth, honesty and logic as a German citizen complaining about the Jewish resistance groups in Nazi Germany.
I mean, it's stupidly moronic.
Hahaha, again, you're not refuting my points. You're attacking me, and nothing more. I couldn't care less about the Jews. I care about the fact that you're implying that it's alright to blindly attack civilians and then expect no retaliations. Israel only attacks after being attacked.
You obviously have no grasp of the situation, as the tried and true "I'm not answering you because it's stupid" approach has been used many a time by uninformed and misguided people.
You love the Jews but then you're calling a paper the Jew York Times. Brilliant. You are an idiot. Like I said, if you feel like refuting my points, make a post.
Bitter Palestinian Muslim meltdown is all I'm getting out of your post.
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Hahaha, again, you're not refuting my points. You're attacking me, and nothing more. I couldn't care less about the Jews. I care about the fact that you're implying that it's alright to blindly attack civilians and then expect no retaliations. Israel only attacks after being attacked.
You obviously have no grasp of the situation, as the tried and true "I'm not answering you because it's stupid" approach has been used many a time by uninformed and misguided people.
You love the Jews but then you're calling a paper the Jew York Times. Brilliant. You are an idiot. Like I said, if you feel like refuting my points, make a post.
Bitter Palestinian Muslim meltdown is all I'm getting out of your post.
If you so much care about the conflic and REAL facts I'll have you know that the ratio of Palestinians to Israeli deaths is now 4:1, with children deaths (since you mention schools) now a whopping 5:1. That means that a Palestinian adult is 400% more likely to be killed by the Israeli army than an Israely is to be killed by a Palestinian (and non-Palestinian) terrorist group.
As has become the norm here in the US, the media's reporting of the conflict is heavily skewed toward reporting Israeli deaths than those of Palestinians. 5-6 times as much in fact.
And this is A FACT, not something I just grabbed out of my ass (or saw on TV).
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If you so much care about the conflic and REAL facts I'll have you know that the ratio of Palestinians to Israeli deaths is now 4:1, with children deaths (since you mention schools) now a whopping 5:1. That means that a Palestinian adult is 400% more likely to be killed by the Israeli army than an Israely is to be killed by a Palestinian (and non-Palestinian) terrorist group.
As has become the norm here in the US, the media's reporting of the conflict is heavily skewed toward reporting Israeli deaths than those of Palestinians. 5-6 times as much in fact.
And this is A FACT, not something I just grabbed out of my ass (or saw on TV).
Due in to large part to Hamas' blatant disregard for Palestinian life. They live among the civilians, having no qualms with firing rockets from the rooftops of homes where children live. As a result, the civilian populace suffers due to the actions of extremists. It's hard to have sympathy for a group of people who refuse to renounce civilian attacks and cry when they have the favor returned.
Hamas fires rockets at Israeli civilians. Israel fires rockets back at Hamas. Israel, having better weaponry, kills said Hamas rocket launchers but it turns out the Hamas guys were launching their rockets next to a school. Innocent children die as the direct result of Hamas' attacks.
If Hamas stopped firing 130 rockets a day at Israel, Israel wouldn't be firing rockets back. It's pretty cut and dry.
As far as I'm concerned, both sides are at fault. But the violence isn't going to end until Hamas stops blatantly attacking civilians.
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Dude, what you're saying is inhumane mumbo-jumbo. Again, here are FACTS:
Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/children.gif)
Israelis and Palestinians Killed Since September 29, 2000
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/deaths-index.gif)
Israelis and Palestinians Injured Since September 29, 2000
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/injuries-index.gif)
UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and the Palestinians
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/un.gif)
Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/homes.gif)
You do the math.
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Due in to large part to Hamas' blatant disregard for Palestinian life. They live among the civilians, having no qualms with firing rockets from the rooftops of homes where children live. As a result, the civilian populace suffers due to the actions of extremists. It's hard to have sympathy for a group of people who refuse to renounce civilian attacks and cry when they have the favor returned.
Hamas fires rockets at Israeli civilians. Israel fires rockets back at Hamas. Israel, having better weaponry, kills said Hamas rocket launchers but it turns out the Hamas guys were launching their rockets next to a school. Innocent children die as the direct result of Hamas' attacks.
If Hamas stopped firing 130 rockets a day at Israel, Israel wouldn't be firing rockets back. It's pretty cut and dry.
Blah, blah, blah. Give me a break with that bullshit. When that Palestinian extremist stormed that Jewish school (whatever it's called) and killed 7 kids and teenagers, people across Palestine were celebrating and firing their weapons in the air.
The Palestinian people also voted Hamas in to power. Shit, they can't even get along with each other. Every Palestinian political party hates the other one and would kill them right alongside the Israelis.
Can you imagine what the world would be saying if Israel started blindly launching 100 rockets a day into Palestine? They would be calling for their heads. Instead, it's ok for some "poor" muslims to do it.
The rest of the Muslim world couldn't give two shits about Palestine and only uses it for cannon fodder. Egypt closed the holes in the border after Hamas blew the wall up, relegating the Palestinians to starving. ::)
The Palestinians are suffering because they refuse to announce Hamas' rocket attacks. Israel gives the wounded Palestinians access to doctors and medical services. If they would stop blatantly attacking civilians, the peace process would start. But Hamas refuses to do that. Thus, the rest of Palestine has to suffer because of extremists.
I have no sympathy for a populace that expects to be treated humanely when they spend their off time trying to kill civilians.
You can't expect to be taken seriously and actually have a chance for peace when you refuse to denounce and stop terrorists from firing thousands of rockets and mortars at civilians. It just doesn't happen.
Epic truth once again..
Palestinians target civilians and expect to use that as a negotiating platform. Then when Israel defends itself everyone points blame on them despite terrorists who hide amongst civilians. Then PL's try to use THAT as a negotiating platform. Unfuckingbelievable.
Must be the only place on earth where terrorism is accepted by the rest of the world and Israel keeps being forced to cave to these murderous assholes.
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Dude, what you're saying is inhumane mumbo-jumbo. Again, here are FACTS:
Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/children.gif)
Israelis and Palestinians Killed Since September 29, 2000
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/deaths-index.gif)
Israelis and Palestinians Injured Since September 29, 2000
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/injuries-index.gif)
UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and the Palestinians
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/un.gif)
Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/homes.gif)
You do the math.
Looks to me an affirmation of Israeli military superiority. Facts don't mean shit. The only fact that matters is that Hamas fires 100x as many rockets into Israel as Israel fires back into Palestine. More Palestinians die because of the accuracy of Israeli weapons and the fact that Hamas operates from civilian hot spots. You're too fucking stupid to realize that Hamas does that for a reason. They fire the rockets from schools and other populated places because when Israel returns fire and kills a Palestinian that had the misfortune of inadvertently being near the Hamas rocket launchers, it makes Israel look like the bad guy.
If Hamas had a pair of balls and stopped hiding among the civilians, innocent Palestinians wouldn't die. They have no regard for Palestinian OR Israeli life.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/12/gaza.blast/index.html
"Militants in Gaza have launched more than 2,300 mortars and rockets since the start of 2008, while 2,000 were fired in all of 2007, according to the Israeli military."
This is why Palestinians end up dead. 2300+ mortars/rockets fired at civilians. No one negotiates with terrorists. Palestine is suffering because of the fact that Hamas refuses to stop attacking civilians. Plain and simple.
Why is it that Fatah is getting along with Israel for the most part? Why is it that it's only Gaza suffering? Oh wait, because of Hamas. ;)
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Dude, what you're saying is inhumane mumbo-jumbo. Again, here are FACTS:
Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/children.gif)
Israelis and Palestinians Killed Since September 29, 2000
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/deaths-index.gif)
Israelis and Palestinians Injured Since September 29, 2000
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/injuries-index.gif)
UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and the Palestinians
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/un.gif)
Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
(http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/homes.gif)
You do the math.
Your points are irrelevant. The facts are incidental to the cause of the problem and fairness, not the other way around.
What's missing is a chart showing what percentage of attacks on Israel target civilians vs. military combatants.
Not to mention how slanted and biased that website is.
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Epic truth once again..
Palestinians target civilians and expect to use that as a negotiating platform. Then when Israel defends itself everyone points blame on them despite terrorists who hide amongst civilians. Then PL's try to use THAT as a negotiating platform. Unfuckingbelievable.
Must be the only place on earth where terrorism is accepted by the rest of the world and Israel keeps being forced to cave to these murderous assholes.
Well, the Palestinians do not attack, it's the pro-Palestinian terrorist groups who attack innocent Israeli civilians. Aside from that, you must keep in mind that the Israeli army, in the majority of cases, is not "defending" the Israeli territory, it is however occupying the West Bank. Hence they are attacking the Palestinians and the Palestinians are merely defending themselves.
But then again, by western standards, they are cursed twice: They are brown skinned AND Muslim. That, as the US media would portray it, is royally fucked up.
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If the US stopped sending money over there and changed the lobbying rules, those people would have peace or death within 10 years.
Yes, people act like Africa sucks up all the foreign aid - when Israel is the #1 recipient overall and per capita, as has been forever, barring some say Iraq lately.
I always find it highly interesting how Israel breaks out a STFU to the US often, while simultaneously soaking them for major cash.
They sell arms to China like fiends, US complained, Israel ignored. They sell arms to Chavez while the US is reported at being "angered". Israel is the world #4th largest arms supplier - strange they get so much military aid from the US, but seem to have so much to sell. Hmmmm. Little things like the Sheinbaum[sp?] case of Israel outright refusing the US's request for extradition of a American citizen who killed and chopped up his roomate then fled to Israel.
US borrows from China, gives Israel billions a year in money/arms, then Israel turns around and sells arms to China againest USA wishes. Interesting full circle.
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[...]Facts don't mean shit.[...]
[...]Your points are irrelevant.[...]
Fuck you!
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Well, the Palestinians do not attack, it's the pro-Palestinian terrorist groups who attack innocent Israeli civilians. Aside from that, you must keep in mind that the Israeli army, in the majority of cases, is not "defending" the Israeli territory, it is however occupying the West Bank. Hence they are attacking the Palestinians and the Palestinians are merely defending themselves.
But then again, by western standards, they are cursed twice: They are brown skinned AND Muslim. That, as the US media would portray it, is royally fucked up.
They're cursed because they do nothing to stop Hamas from attacking civilians, and in many cases, endorse and condone it. That is why they're cursed. Why is it that there have been barely any problems with northern Palestine? Is it because Fatah has for the most part buried the hatchet with Israel and chose to take a diplomatic approach instead of a terroristic approach? You are an idiot and it's pretty sad that you're actually supporting attacking civilians. Must be a Muslim. It is endorsed by Koran after all. ::)
And saying the Palestinians are defending themselves is bullshit. If they were defending themselves, they would attack the Israeli military, not CIVILIANS.
Fuck you!
You are an idiot. Plain and simple. Take into account every thing that caused those facts, and you'll see that you're just spewing propaganda. Not much unlike a typical Hamas member. ;D
You really do sound like a four year old who can't get his way.
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They're cursed because they do nothing to stop Hamas from attacking civilians, and in many cases, endorse and condone it. That is why they're cursed. Why is it that there have been barely any problems with northern Palestine? Is it because Fatah has for the most part buried the hatchet with Israel and chose to take a diplomatic approach instead of a terroristic approach? You are an idiot and it's pretty sad that you're actually supporting attacking civilians. Must be a Muslim. It is endorsed by Koran after all. ::)
And saying the Palestinians are defending themselves is bullshit. If they were defending themselves, they would attack the Israeli military, not CIVILIANS.
Well, the Israeli Terrorist Groups (aka Israeli military) have generalized the conflic to all Palestinians, so why is it wrong when the Palestinian Terrorist Groups target all Israelis and end up killing ¼ civilians of their Israeli counterparts in the process? I tell you why: They're brown skinned and muslim. So noone here in the states gives a shit if they get murdered wholesale.
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Hate to be ghey - but there is a growing group there of women from *both* sides - 'Moms For Peace'. Women many of whom have buried their kids, and many others who fear for their kids. They are unified, and it's growing rapidly. I would love to see a fraction of the US billions a year siphoned to a group like that, a puny $10 grand even, as it's a group whose motives and objectives being such that no rational person cannot support. Stop the killing of all kids by anyone...
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Hate to be ghey - but there is a growing group there of women from *both* sides - 'Moms For Peace'. Women many of whom have buried their kids, and many others who fear for their kids. They are unified, and it's growing rapidly. I would love to see a fraction of the US billions a year siphoned to a group like that, a puny $10 grand even, as it's a group whose motives and objectives being such that no rational person cannot support. Stop the killing of all kids by anyone...
The US should match China and Russia's donations.
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They're cursed because they do nothing to stop Hamas from attacking civilians, and in many cases, endorse and condone it. That is why they're cursed. Why is it that there have been barely any problems with northern Palestine? Is it because Fatah has for the most part buried the hatchet with Israel and chose to take a diplomatic approach instead of a terroristic approach? You are an idiot and it's pretty sad that you're actually supporting attacking civilians. Must be a Muslim. It is endorsed by Koran after all. ::)
And saying the Palestinians are defending themselves is bullshit. If they were defending themselves, they would attack the Israeli military, not CIVILIANS.
You are an idiot. Plain and simple. Take into account every thing that caused those facts, and you'll see that you're just spewing propaganda. Not much unlike a typical Hamas member. ;D
You really do sound like a four year old who can't get his way.
Look, I've learned one thing in life: Stupid idiots do not wish to learn. Eventually everything boggs down to a "well, your point is meanigless because of...". Hence the best answer is Fuck you!
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Fuck you!
You are a child.
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You are a child.
Who knows, I may even be your child.
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Who knows, I may even be your child.
I'd hate to have to live with raising a retard, though. :-\
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Look, what you're saying would be well taken if it carried any logic, but it does not. The existance of Hamas is not a precursor of anything. Hamas has come to power only because of one thing: Palestinians are getting their land stolen EVERY DAY and Palestinians are getting KILLED every day. This is a fact.
The UN has released 70 warnings against Israel and none agains the Palestinians. Doesn't that say something?
What's next, you're going to tell me that the UN is shit?
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I'd hate to have to live with raising a retard, though. :-\
Hey, retards = 1 tax exemption too.
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Look, what you're saying would be well taken if it carried any logic, but it does not. The existance of Hamas is not a precursor of anything. Hamas has come to power only because of one thing: Palestinians are getting their land stolen EVERY DAY and Palestinians are getting KILLED every day. This is a fact.
The UN has released 70 warnings against Israel and none agains the Palestinians. Doesn't that say something?
What's next, you're going to tell me that the US is shit?
Hamas came to power because the Palestinians tried 2 times to destroy Israel and failed incredibly miserably. As a last resort they turned to attacking civilians from the rooftops of homes where children live. Your argument holds absolutely no water. You are condoning the blatant murder of civilians. You are an idiot and nothing more. You don't even warrant arguing with, as you sound like the prototypical extremist ape.
You still refuse to address the fact that the Fatah controlled land has had pretty much ZERO attacks from Israel in the last six months. Why is that? Oh wait, it's because they don't attack civilians and have chosen to handle it through negotiations. When Hamas stops attacking civilians, they'll get some respect. Until then, they're nothing more than terrorists, plain and simple.
It's not fucking rocket science. You attack civilians, expect repercussions. You, however, are too inept to understand that.
Anyway, I'd love to argue about this all day (not really), but the US Open is coming on.
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Look, I've learned one thing in life: Stupid idiots do not wish to learn. Eventually everything boggs down to a "well, your point is meanigless because of...". Hence the best answer is Fuck you!
You haven't learned anything. You're too simple minded to see the situation for what it is. And you've bought into all the liberal drivel hook, line and sinker. Pull your head out of your ass and do some more research. It's like you're not even TRYING to understand the situation.
Moron.
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Hamas came to power because the Palestinians tried 2 times to destroy Israel and failed incredibly miserably. As a last resort they turned to attacking civilians from the rooftops of homes where children live. Your argument holds absolutely no water. You are condoning the blatant murder of civilians. You are an idiot and nothing more. You don't even warrant arguing with, as you sound like the prototypical extremist ape.
Are you referring to the intifadas as efforts to "destroy" Israel? Are you fucking for real?! Intifadah = Uprising agains the Israeli occupation you...! Even the term intifada, and I do not speak arabic neither am I of arabic descent, I know means something like "get it off your back" or "shake-off" or something like that.
You still refuse to address the fact that the Fatah controlled land has had pretty much ZERO attacks from Israel in the last six months. Why is that? Oh wait, it's because they don't attack civilians and have chosen to handle it through negotiations. When Hamas stops attacking civilians, they'll get some respect. Until then, they're nothing more than terrorists, plain and simple.
Look, you want the attacks to end from both sides? Simple: END THE OCCUPATION. That way the attacks will stop from both side.
It's not fucking rocket science. You attack civilians, expect repercussions. You, however, are too inept to understand that.
But it was Israel who started attacking civilians GODFUCKINGDAMMET! Aside from that, END THE OCCUPATION!!!!!! And the Palestinians will talk!!!!! That way the world could go on without having to worry about the fucking jews and the fucking arabs killing eachother for a piece of heaven in the desert.
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You haven't learned anything. You're too simple minded to see the situation for what it is. And you've bought into all the liberal drivel hook, line and sinker. Pull your head out of your ass and do some more research. It's like you're not even TRYING to understand the situation.
Moron.
No, I do. What I think is the problem is that you twos are jews. And we all know how heated some of yous you get when you hear something negative about Israel and the "struggle" as though you want nothing but peace on earth.
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No, I do. What I think is the problem is that you twos are jews. And we all know how heated some of yous you get when you hear something negative about Israel and the "struggle" as though you want nothing but peace on earth.
Christian upbringing here. I do have an underlying distaste for Muslims, though. Probably cultivated by their culture and penchant for terrorism.
How's it feel knowing your Palestinian brethren are the armpit of the Middle East, reviled by Muslims and Jews alike? Egypt shits on you guys.
You are one bitter, bitter Muslim. Kind of funny watching you flail about like a retard. You guys had your chance to take back "your" land. Israel curb stomped you. That land is as good as theirs. To the victors in war goes the spoils. Perhaps if the rest of the Middle East didn't hate you they would help. Oh wait. :-X
You actually justify sending 2,300+ rockets/mortars at civilians. You're beyond stupid, and really not worth arguing with. The only reason I'm going on is for the sake of watching you smash your keyboard as you make a fool of yourself by justifying terrorism, Muslim dirtbag. ;)
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Are you referring to the intifadas as efforts to "destroy" Israel? Are you fucking for real?! Intifadah = Uprising agains the Israeli occupation you...! Even the term intifada, and I do not speak arabic neither am I of arabic descent, I know means something like "get it off your back" or "shake-off" or something like that.
Look, you want the attacks to end from both sides? Simple: END THE OCCUPATION. That way the attacks will stop from both side.
But it was Israel who started attacking civilians GODFUCKINGDAMMET! Aside from that, END THE OCCUPATION!!!!!! And the Palestinians will talk!!!!! That way the world could go on without having to worry about the fucking jews and the fucking arabs killing eachother for a piece of heaven in the desert.
MELTDOWN
And ending the occupation will do nothing.. just like every other time Israel offers concessions and then the PL's stab it in the back and use terror to demand more. It's no secret the Arab world wants Israel off the map. Once again.. you're an idiot.
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No, I do. What I think is the problem is that you twos are jews. And we all know how heated some of yous you get when you hear something negative about Israel and the "struggle" as though you want nothing but peace on earth.
Actually the problem is poor education combined with complete stupidity. I'm sorry but I can't fix that for you.
.. as if "islam" was the religion of peace!!! ah HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHA!!!!! ::) ::) ;D
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Throwing rocks? The Palestinians are throwing rocks. The Israelis are responding with misiles.
There's a difference.
I guess there still pissed about that David and goliath thing.
Davids a big winner thru out the biblical history.
I guess isrialits go from stones to missles.
Got to love the end times
Armageddon and Anarchy!
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wonder what "the coach" will have to say about this one..
And what exactly do YOU have to say about the DAILY murder in the name of islam? ???
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Slapper,
The deaths of Palestinians don't really matter to Americans. Stop wasting your time.
Sorry, dude. Someone had to say it. The American public (majority) has a magical formula by which suffering is rated: it starts out with europeans and Jews. After that we pretty much rank people by whiteness and how much they have in common with the majority. Every last Palestinian could die today and the majority of Americans wouldn't give a shit. The same American public that has no problems with Native Americans being jammed on reservations and running casinos is 100% convinced the Jews should have all the land they want and that when Jesus comes back his first stop will be in Jerusalem.
Hamas is bad but it wouldn't matter what the Palestinians did because the other side doesn't have to negotiate. Inch by inch Palestine will be gone and there's not a damn thing anyone will ever be able to do about it. They blew the only chance to have what could have been a country in the 50s after the UN screwed them over.
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israel = 51st state
wrong
Israel = US Capital
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Slapper,
The deaths of Palestinians don't really matter to Americans. Stop wasting your time.
Sorry, dude. Someone had to say it. The American public (majority) has a magical formula by which suffering is rated: it starts out with europeans and Jews. After that we pretty much rank people by whiteness and how much they have in common with the majority. Every last Palestinian could die today and the majority of Americans wouldn't give a shit. The same American public that has no problems with Native Americans being jammed on reservations and running casinos is 100% convinced the Jews should have all the land they want and that when Jesus comes back his first stop will be in Jerusalem.
Hamas is bad but it wouldn't matter what the Palestinians did because the other side doesn't have to negotiate. Inch by inch Palestine will be gone and there's not a damn thing anyone will ever be able to do about it. They blew the only chance to have what could have been a country in the 50s after the UN screwed them over.
Most skewed post ever.
Palestinians who act like animals should be treated like animals. Israel behaves like any other civilized country trying to defend itself from murder.
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israel is one of the world's biggest source of problems.
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MELTDOWN
And ending the occupation will do nothing.. just like every other time Israel offers concessions and then the PL's stab it in the back and use terror to demand more. It's no secret the Arab world wants Israel off the map. Once again.. you're an idiot.
Correct, hence the circle of violence that permiates the entire area and gets blamed on the Palestinians every time. Even though they're defending their own land.
Beautiful.
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Actually the problem is poor education combined with complete stupidity. I'm sorry but I can't fix that for you.
.. as if "islam" was the religion of peace!!! ah HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHA!!!!! ::) ::) ;D
Are you a jew or not?
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Correct, hence the circle of violence that permiates the entire area and gets blamed on the Palestinians every time. Even though they're defending their own land.
Beautiful.
Americans don't consider it Palestinian land, Slapper.
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Christian upbringing here. I do have an underlying distaste for Muslims, though. Probably cultivated by their culture and penchant for terrorism.
How's it feel knowing your Palestinian brethren are the armpit of the Middle East, reviled by Muslims and Jews alike? Egypt shits on you guys.
You are one bitter, bitter Muslim. Kind of funny watching you flail about like a retard. You guys had your chance to take back "your" land. Israel curb stomped you. That land is as good as theirs. To the victors in war goes the spoils. Perhaps if the rest of the Middle East didn't hate you they would help. Oh wait. :-X
You actually justify sending 2,300+ rockets/mortars at civilians. You're beyond stupid, and really not worth arguing with. The only reason I'm going on is for the sake of watching you smash your keyboard as you make a fool of yourself by justifying terrorism, Muslim dirtbag. ;)
And how do I justify terrorism? ::) ::) ::)
And, by the way, you must've missed my comment about me not being a muslim. Just like much of the stuff I've said. I'm actually catholic.
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Slapper,
The deaths of Palestinians don't really matter to Americans. Stop wasting your time.
Sorry, dude. Someone had to say it. The American public (majority) has a magical formula by which suffering is rated: it starts out with europeans and Jews. After that we pretty much rank people by whiteness and how much they have in common with the majority. Every last Palestinian could die today and the majority of Americans wouldn't give a shit. The same American public that has no problems with Native Americans being jammed on reservations and running casinos is 100% convinced the Jews should have all the land they want and that when Jesus comes back his first stop will be in Jerusalem.
Hamas is bad but it wouldn't matter what the Palestinians did because the other side doesn't have to negotiate. Inch by inch Palestine will be gone and there's not a damn thing anyone will ever be able to do about it. They blew the only chance to have what could have been a country in the 50s after the UN screwed them over.
Well, I learned that the hard way today. I had to elbow my way in with the two morons that all of a sudden started spewing out things about Palestinians that are simply not true. I ain't Palestinian or an arab, I'm actually Roman Catholic, born and raised, but it is interesting to see how they finally managed to refer to the Palestinians as "animals". Which is the way many people feel, even though they're human beings.
Americans, by and large, do not care about the Palestinian struggle, and to be honest neither do I, but I do know a few things about the subject, like their land being occuped by Israel, like their people being massacred by the Israeli army, etc. What's most incredible is that they base the Israeli Terroris Group's actions on a reaction to the PLO or any group associated to the Palestinian people, as if it was Palestine who invaded Israel. It's fucking unbelievable.
And let me say out loud, before these people report me to the ADL, that I do not hate Israelis or Jews. Let that be known.
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israel is one of the world's biggest source of problems.
No the countries surrounding Israel are the problems.
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Correct, hence the circle of violence that permiates the entire area and gets blamed on the Palestinians every time. Even though they're defending their own land.
Beautiful.
Obviously you've done exactly ZERO research on the origins of the Israeli state. Why am I not surprised?
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Are you a jew or not?
Yes I am.
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Slapper,
The deaths of Palestinians don't really matter to Americans. Stop wasting your time.
Sorry, dude. Someone had to say it. The American public (majority) has a magical formula by which suffering is rated: it starts out with europeans and Jews. After that we pretty much rank people by whiteness and how much they have in common with the majority. Every last Palestinian could die today and the majority of Americans wouldn't give a shit. The same American public that has no problems with Native Americans being jammed on reservations and running casinos is 100% convinced the Jews should have all the land they want and that when Jesus comes back his first stop will be in Jerusalem.
Hamas is bad but it wouldn't matter what the Palestinians did because the other side doesn't have to negotiate. Inch by inch Palestine will be gone and there's not a damn thing anyone will ever be able to do about it. They blew the only chance to have what could have been a country in the 50s after the UN screwed them over.
Let's be honest Doc, if all the Palestinians died today, would you really give a shit? I seriously doubt it. I know I wouldn't. I'd feel the same way if Israel were to disappear too. Would the rest of the Arab world give a shit? Not at all. The rest of the Muslim world hates the Palestinians. They're the scum of the region. Egypt's so indifferent to them that they actually sealed the boarder back up and let them go back to suffering.
Abdul "Slapper" Farihm probably feels like blowing me up.
Ha ha ha, Palestinian oppression!!!!
Obviously you've done exactly ZERO research on the origins of the Israeli state. Why am I not surprised?
Look at his posts, he's obviously an idiot. Every time you ask him to refute a point he replies with "Fuck you." I'm guessing autism.
Regardless, the Palestinians have tried multiple times to take that land back, spectacularly failing each time. They lost all claim to that land. In war, conquered territories are usually ceded to said conqueror. It's Israel's land now. All the Muslim crying in the world isn't going to change that. Why don't they try to take it back without blindly targeting civilians?
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Well, I learned that the hard way today. I had to elbow my way in with the two morons that all of a sudden started spewing out things about Palestinians that are simply not true. I ain't Palestinian or an arab, I'm actually Roman Catholic, born and raised, but it is interesting to see how they finally managed to refer to the Palestinians as "animals". Which is the way many people feel, even though they're human beings.
Americans, by and large, do not care about the Palestinian struggle, and to be honest neither do I, but I do know a few things about the subject, like their land being occuped by Israel, like their people being massacred by the Israeli army, etc. What's most incredible is that they base the Israeli Terroris Group's actions on a reaction to the PLO or any group associated to the Palestinian people, as if it was Palestine who invaded Israel. It's fucking unbelievable.
And let me say out loud, before these people report me to the ADL, that I do not hate Israelis or Jews. Let that be known.
Why would Americans take the side of the terrorists?
Your entire premise is in direct conflict with the facts.
.. Palestinians target Israeli CIVILIANS
.. Israelis target PL TERRORISTS who purposefully hide amongst CIVILIANS
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Why would Americans take the side of the terrorists?
Your entire premise is in direct conflict with the facts.
.. Palestinians target Israeli CIVILIANS
.. Israelis target PL TERRORISTS who purposefully hide amongst CIVILIANS
Hahaha, seriously, this retard acts like it's fucking rocket science. Palestinian citizens die because Hamas has absolutely zero disregard for their lives. They fire rockets from the rooftops of schools and what not because when Israel fires back it just gives them more propaganda. It's not hard to understand. It's pretty cut and dry. Stop attacking civilians and Israel will stop retaliating.
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Let's be honest Doc, if all the Palestinians died today, would you really give a shit? I seriously doubt it. I know I wouldn't. I'd feel the same way if Israel were to disappear too. Would the rest of the Arab world give a shit? Not at all. The rest of the Muslim world hates the Palestinians. They're the scum of the region. Egypt's so indifferent to them that they actually sealed the boarder back up and let them go back to suffering.
Abdul "Slapper" Farihm probably feels like blowing me up.
Ha ha ha, Palestinian oppression!!!!
Look at his posts, he's obviously an idiot. Every time you ask him to refute a point he replies with "Fuck you." I'm guessing autism.
Regardless, the Palestinians have tried multiple times to take that land back, spectacularly failing each time. They lost all claim to that land. In war, conquered territories are usually ceded to said conqueror. It's Israel's land now. All the Muslim crying in the world isn't going to change that. Why don't they try to take it back without blindly targeting civilians?
The rest of the Arab world didn't start hating Palestinians until they became refugees.
If they all died, both sides, Jews from the and displaced Palestinians from around the world would reoccupy the land and start fighting all over again. :) Those people will never, ever.....ever have peace. I want the US to spend taxpayer dollars on US citizens, period.
I blame Abraham for this entire mess, LOL!
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The rest of the Arab world didn't start hating Palestinians until they became refugees.
If they all died, both sides, Jews from the and displaced Palestinians from around the world would reoccupy the land and start fighting all over again. :) Those people will never, ever.....ever have peace. I want the US to spend taxpayer dollars on US citizens, period.
I blame Abraham for this entire mess, LOL!
Hahahaha! Funniest statement I've read in a while. That Abraham was a crafty one.
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Hahahaha! Funniest statement I've read in a while. That Abraham was a crafty one.
Best saying of the post
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Hahahaha! Funniest statement I've read in a while. That Abraham was a crafty one.
Just like Adam and the apple it comes down to one simple thing: Abraham substituted God's judgement for that of his wife. He was getting old and just couldn't wait.... anyone who's read knows the rest and that his offspring will be fighting over the birthright Hagar's son was cheated out of forever.
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Yes I am.
that's not really what's important here. why are you a zionist? Are you aware it is opposed among many Jews. Do you know the history? Do you know the true history? Or do you go marching around brandishing a label and belief out of a sense of duty without any real understanding? Nevermind, I'm sure you have it all figured out ::)
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Promise land not so promissing
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that's not really what's important here. why are you a zionist? Are you aware it is opposed among many Jews. Do you know the history? Do you know the true history? Or do you go marching around brandishing a label and belief out of a sense of duty without any real understanding? Nevermind, I'm sure you have it all figured out ::)
WTF are you talking about.. someone asked so I answered.
Everything I've stated on this subject I from my belief in fairness and my objectivity of a situation I've actually spent some time looking into. Even as a Jew I would much rather stay where I am thanks.
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Damn, what a thread! :o
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WTF are you talking about.. someone asked so I answered.
Everything I've stated on this subject I from my belief in fairness and my objectivity of a situation I've actually spent some time looking into. Even as a Jew I would much rather stay where I am thanks.
Like I said, that you're a jew isn't important to the point. you're a zionist right? Have you not argued in favor before? Zionist doesn't mean, Israeli Citizen.
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I say, remove all aid from Israel, but also from Egyt. Let those fools in that desert kill each other.
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Like I said, that you're a jew isn't important to the point. you're a zionist right? Have you not argued in favor before? Zionist doesn't mean, Israeli Citizen.
Define your idea of a zionist and I'll let you know. That word has different meanings depending on who it's applied to.
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Define your idea of a zionist and I'll let you know. That word has different meanings depending on who it's applied to.
usless you're a time travelar, you know exactly how I define it. ::)
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the US should denounce and cut off all ties with israel. problem solved over night