Jewish Settlers beat up Palestinians...

[Brixtonbulldog]

Dude, what you're saying is inhumane mumbo-jumbo. Again, here are FACTS:

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000


Israelis and Palestinians Killed Since September 29, 2000


Israelis and Palestinians Injured Since September 29, 2000


UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and the Palestinians


Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes



You do the math.

Your points are irrelevant.  The facts are incidental to the cause of the problem and fairness, not the other way around.

What's missing is a chart showing what percentage of attacks on Israel target civilians vs. military combatants.

Not to mention how slanted and biased that website is.

[Slapper]

Epic truth once again..

Palestinians target civilians and expect to use that as a negotiating platform.  Then when Israel defends itself everyone points blame on them despite terrorists who hide amongst civilians.  Then PL's try to use THAT as a negotiating platform.  Unfuckingbelievable.

Must be the only place on earth where terrorism is accepted by the rest of the world and Israel keeps being forced to cave to these murderous assholes.

Well, the Palestinians do not attack, it's the pro-Palestinian terrorist groups who attack innocent Israeli civilians. Aside from that, you must keep in mind that the Israeli army, in the majority of cases, is not "defending" the Israeli territory, it is however occupying the West Bank. Hence they are attacking the Palestinians and the Palestinians are merely defending themselves.

But then again, by western standards, they are cursed twice: They are brown skinned AND Muslim. That, as the US media would portray it, is royally fucked up.

[CQ]

If the US stopped sending money over there and changed the lobbying rules, those people would have peace or death within 10 years.

Yes, people act like Africa sucks up all the foreign aid - when Israel is the #1 recipient overall and per capita, as has been forever, barring some say Iraq lately.

I always find it highly interesting how Israel breaks out a STFU to the US often, while simultaneously soaking them for major cash.

They sell arms to China like fiends, US complained, Israel ignored. They sell arms to Chavez while the US is reported at being "angered". Israel is the world #4th largest arms supplier - strange they get so much military aid from the US, but seem to have so much to sell. Hmmmm. Little things like the Sheinbaum[sp?] case of Israel outright refusing the US's request for extradition of a American citizen who killed and chopped up his roomate then fled to Israel.

US borrows from China, gives Israel billions a year in money/arms, then Israel turns around and sells arms to China againest USA wishes. Interesting full circle.

[Slapper]

[...]Facts don't mean shit.[...]

[...]Your points are irrelevant.[...]

 

Fuck you!

[Fury]

Well, the Palestinians do not attack, it's the pro-Palestinian terrorist groups who attack innocent Israeli civilians. Aside from that, you must keep in mind that the Israeli army, in the majority of cases, is not "defending" the Israeli territory, it is however occupying the West Bank. Hence they are attacking the Palestinians and the Palestinians are merely defending themselves.

But then again, by western standards, they are cursed twice: They are brown skinned AND Muslim. That, as the US media would portray it, is royally fucked up.

They're cursed because they do nothing to stop Hamas from attacking civilians, and in many cases, endorse and condone it. That is why they're cursed. Why is it that there have been barely any problems with northern Palestine? Is it because Fatah has for the most part buried the hatchet with Israel and chose to take a diplomatic approach instead of a terroristic approach? You are an idiot and it's pretty sad that you're actually supporting attacking civilians. Must be a Muslim. It is endorsed by Koran after all. 

And saying the Palestinians are defending themselves is bullshit. If they were defending themselves, they would attack the Israeli military, not CIVILIANS.

 

Fuck you!

You are an idiot. Plain and simple. Take into account every thing that caused those facts, and you'll see that you're just spewing propaganda. Not much unlike a typical Hamas member. 

You really do sound like a four year old who can't get his way.

[Slapper]

They're cursed because they do nothing to stop Hamas from attacking civilians, and in many cases, endorse and condone it. That is why they're cursed. Why is it that there have been barely any problems with northern Palestine? Is it because Fatah has for the most part buried the hatchet with Israel and chose to take a diplomatic approach instead of a terroristic approach? You are an idiot and it's pretty sad that you're actually supporting attacking civilians. Must be a Muslim. It is endorsed by Koran after all. 

And saying the Palestinians are defending themselves is bullshit. If they were defending themselves, they would attack the Israeli military, not CIVILIANS.

Well, the Israeli Terrorist Groups (aka Israeli military) have generalized the conflic to all Palestinians, so why is it wrong when the Palestinian Terrorist Groups target all Israelis and end up killing ¼ civilians of their Israeli counterparts in the process? I tell you why: They're brown skinned and muslim. So noone here in the states gives a shit if they get murdered wholesale.

[CQ]

Hate to be ghey - but there is a growing group there of women from *both* sides - 'Moms For Peace'. Women many of whom have buried their kids, and many others who fear for their kids. They are unified, and it's growing rapidly. I would love to see a fraction of the US billions a year siphoned to a group like that, a puny $10 grand even, as it's a group whose motives and objectives being such that no rational person cannot support. Stop the killing of all kids by anyone...

[Fury]

Hate to be ghey - but there is a growing group there of women from *both* sides - 'Moms For Peace'. Women many of whom have buried their kids, and many others who fear for their kids. They are unified, and it's growing rapidly. I would love to see a fraction of the US billions a year siphoned to a group like that, a puny $10 grand even, as it's a group whose motives and objectives being such that no rational person cannot support. Stop the killing of all kids by anyone...

The US should match China and Russia's donations.

[Slapper]

They're cursed because they do nothing to stop Hamas from attacking civilians, and in many cases, endorse and condone it. That is why they're cursed. Why is it that there have been barely any problems with northern Palestine? Is it because Fatah has for the most part buried the hatchet with Israel and chose to take a diplomatic approach instead of a terroristic approach? You are an idiot and it's pretty sad that you're actually supporting attacking civilians. Must be a Muslim. It is endorsed by Koran after all. 

And saying the Palestinians are defending themselves is bullshit. If they were defending themselves, they would attack the Israeli military, not CIVILIANS.

You are an idiot. Plain and simple. Take into account every thing that caused those facts, and you'll see that you're just spewing propaganda. Not much unlike a typical Hamas member. 

You really do sound like a four year old who can't get his way.

Look, I've learned one thing in life: Stupid idiots do not wish to learn. Eventually everything boggs down to a "well, your point is meanigless because of...". Hence the best answer is Fuck you!

[Fury]

Fuck you!

You are a child.

[Slapper]

You are a child.

Who knows, I may even be your child.

[Fury]

Who knows, I may even be your child.

I'd hate to have to live with raising a retard, though. 

[Slapper]

Look, what you're saying would be well taken if it carried any logic, but it does not. The existance of Hamas is not a precursor of anything. Hamas has come to power only because of one thing: Palestinians are getting their land stolen EVERY DAY and Palestinians are getting KILLED every day. This is a fact.

The UN has released 70 warnings against Israel and none agains the Palestinians. Doesn't that say something?

What's next, you're going to tell me that the UN is shit?

[Slapper]

I'd hate to have to live with raising a retard, though. 

Hey, retards = 1 tax exemption too.

[Fury]

Look, what you're saying would be well taken if it carried any logic, but it does not. The existance of Hamas is not a precursor of anything. Hamas has come to power only because of one thing: Palestinians are getting their land stolen EVERY DAY and Palestinians are getting KILLED every day. This is a fact.

The UN has released 70 warnings against Israel and none agains the Palestinians. Doesn't that say something?

What's next, you're going to tell me that the US is shit?

Hamas came to power because the Palestinians tried 2 times to destroy Israel and failed incredibly miserably. As a last resort they turned to attacking civilians from the rooftops of homes where children live. Your argument holds absolutely no water. You are condoning the blatant murder of civilians. You are an idiot and nothing more. You don't even warrant arguing with, as you sound like the prototypical extremist ape.

You still refuse to address the fact that the Fatah controlled land has had pretty much ZERO attacks from Israel in the last six months. Why is that? Oh wait, it's because they don't attack civilians and have chosen to handle it through negotiations. When Hamas stops attacking civilians, they'll get some respect. Until then, they're nothing more than terrorists, plain and simple.

It's not fucking rocket science. You attack civilians, expect repercussions. You, however, are too inept to understand that.

Anyway, I'd love to argue about this all day (not really), but the US Open is coming on.

[Brixtonbulldog]

Look, I've learned one thing in life: Stupid idiots do not wish to learn. Eventually everything boggs down to a "well, your point is meanigless because of...". Hence the best answer is Fuck you!

You haven't learned anything.  You're too simple minded to see the situation for what it is.  And you've bought into all the liberal drivel hook, line and sinker.  Pull your head out of your ass and do some more research.  It's like you're not even TRYING to understand the situation.

Moron.

[Slapper]

Hamas came to power because the Palestinians tried 2 times to destroy Israel and failed incredibly miserably. As a last resort they turned to attacking civilians from the rooftops of homes where children live. Your argument holds absolutely no water. You are condoning the blatant murder of civilians. You are an idiot and nothing more. You don't even warrant arguing with, as you sound like the prototypical extremist ape.

Are you referring to the intifadas as efforts to "destroy" Israel? Are you fucking for real?! Intifadah = Uprising agains the Israeli occupation you...! Even the term intifada, and I do not speak arabic neither am I of arabic descent, I know means something like "get it off your back" or "shake-off" or something like that.

You still refuse to address the fact that the Fatah controlled land has had pretty much ZERO attacks from Israel in the last six months. Why is that? Oh wait, it's because they don't attack civilians and have chosen to handle it through negotiations. When Hamas stops attacking civilians, they'll get some respect. Until then, they're nothing more than terrorists, plain and simple.

Look, you want the attacks to end from both sides? Simple: END THE OCCUPATION. That way the attacks will stop from both side.

It's not fucking rocket science. You attack civilians, expect repercussions. You, however, are too inept to understand that.

But it was Israel who started attacking civilians GODFUCKINGDAMMET! Aside from that, END THE OCCUPATION!!!!!! And the Palestinians will talk!!!!! That way the world could go on without having to worry about the fucking jews and the fucking arabs killing eachother for a piece of heaven in the desert.

[Slapper]

You haven't learned anything.  You're too simple minded to see the situation for what it is.  And you've bought into all the liberal drivel hook, line and sinker.  Pull your head out of your ass and do some more research.  It's like you're not even TRYING to understand the situation.

Moron.

No, I do. What I think is the problem is that you twos are jews. And we all know how heated some of yous you get when you hear something negative about Israel and the "struggle" as though you want nothing but peace on earth.

[Fury]

No, I do. What I think is the problem is that you twos are jews. And we all know how heated some of yous you get when you hear something negative about Israel and the "struggle" as though you want nothing but peace on earth.

Christian upbringing here. I do have an underlying distaste for Muslims, though. Probably cultivated by their culture and penchant for terrorism.

How's it feel knowing your Palestinian brethren are the armpit of the Middle East, reviled by Muslims and Jews alike? Egypt shits on you guys.

You are one bitter, bitter Muslim. Kind of funny watching you flail about like a retard. You guys had your chance to take back "your" land. Israel curb stomped you. That land is as good as theirs. To the victors in war goes the spoils. Perhaps if the rest of the Middle East didn't hate you they would help. Oh wait.   

You actually justify sending 2,300+ rockets/mortars at civilians. You're beyond stupid, and really not worth arguing with. The only reason I'm going on is for the sake of watching you smash your keyboard as you make a fool of yourself by justifying terrorism, Muslim dirtbag.

[Brixtonbulldog]

Are you referring to the intifadas as efforts to "destroy" Israel? Are you fucking for real?! Intifadah = Uprising agains the Israeli occupation you...! Even the term intifada, and I do not speak arabic neither am I of arabic descent, I know means something like "get it off your back" or "shake-off" or something like that.

Look, you want the attacks to end from both sides? Simple: END THE OCCUPATION. That way the attacks will stop from both side.

But it was Israel who started attacking civilians GODFUCKINGDAMMET! Aside from that, END THE OCCUPATION!!!!!! And the Palestinians will talk!!!!! That way the world could go on without having to worry about the fucking jews and the fucking arabs killing eachother for a piece of heaven in the desert.

MELTDOWN

And ending the occupation will do nothing.. just like every other time Israel offers concessions and then the PL's stab it in the back and use terror to demand more.  It's no secret the Arab world wants Israel off the map.  Once again.. you're an idiot.

[Brixtonbulldog]

No, I do. What I think is the problem is that you twos are jews. And we all know how heated some of yous you get when you hear something negative about Israel and the "struggle" as though you want nothing but peace on earth.

Actually the problem is poor education combined with complete stupidity.  I'm sorry but I can't fix that for you.

.. as if "islam" was the religion of peace!!! ah HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHA!!!!!

[steveeray]

Throwing rocks? The Palestinians are throwing rocks. The Israelis are responding with misiles.

There's a difference.

I guess there still pissed about that David and goliath thing.
Davids a big winner thru out the biblical history.
I guess isrialits go from stones to missles.
Got to love the end times
Armageddon and Anarchy!

[Nordic Superman]

wonder what "the coach" will have to say about this one..

And what exactly do YOU have to say about the DAILY murder in the name of islam?

[drkaje]

Slapper,

The deaths of Palestinians don't really matter to Americans. Stop wasting your time.

Sorry, dude. Someone had to say it. The American public (majority) has a magical formula by which suffering is rated: it starts out with europeans and Jews. After that we pretty much rank people by whiteness and how much they have in common with the majority. Every last Palestinian could die today and the majority of Americans wouldn't give a shit. The same American public that has no problems with Native Americans being jammed on reservations and running casinos is 100% convinced the Jews should have all the land they want and that when Jesus comes back his first stop will be in Jerusalem.

Hamas is bad but it wouldn't matter what the Palestinians did because the other side doesn't have to negotiate. Inch by inch Palestine will be gone and there's not a damn thing anyone will ever be able to do about it. They blew the only chance to have what could have been a country in the 50s after the UN screwed them over.

[Hugo Chavez]

israel = 51st state

wrong

 Israel = US Capital