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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: steveeray on June 15, 2008, 11:14:37 PM
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What has candizzle posted that you don't like?
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oh brother
yo steve what happened to all my personal info you said you were going to post ? dont you have some gay sites to put my info up on ? i thought you knew my dads info as well as were going to post that ?
::)
stupid chump
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oh brother
yo steve what happened to all my personal info you said you were going to post ? dont you have some gay sites to put my info up on ? i thought you knew my dads info as well as were going to post that ?
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stupid chump
I thought yo daddy left yo ass
I wouldn't screw with your family
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Why
you excited about your pic on
men on men magazine
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I have no idea what steveeray is talking about most of the time
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What has candizzle posted that you don't like?
I think cumdiddle posted PMs that him self and SteveEray had traded but there was suggestion that candidildo had edited them and in fact he was asking Stevo the questions to which he posted Stevos answers and twisted to make Stevo look bad :o
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I have no idea what steveeray is talking about most of the time
I have no idea either
I'll ask him
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thinking about it, there are alot of sad 25+ year olds on this board.. sure maybe its expected from the younger ones, but the fathers and single 25+ year olds are kind of insignificant.
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I have no idea what steveeray is talking about most of the time
Glad to see I am not alone...
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WTFLOLOMG! ??? :'(
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WTFLOLOMG! ??? :'(
Loco
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I will admit that Pm's should never be posted for the public,
but Steveeray, you have said some very nasty stuff.
I really think the bigger man will pm the other, and you guys
can come to your senses and cut this out.
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Im really to old to deal with bs
But
You know what?
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Im really to old to deal with bs
But
You know what?
>:(
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Candizzle, I don't know Steveeray,
but if I was you, i would quit this shit.
both of you, just quit!
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Ill give him the win if he quits acting stupid
know what?
go ahead and post my info and my dads info and all the stuff you threatened me with steve.... ::)
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go ahead and post my info and my dads info and all the stuff you threatened me with steve.... ::)
Why would I post your dad?
Hey
You know what?
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steve you threated me saying you were going to post my information if i didnt remove that p.m. and you said you were going t harrass my father. and you said you weere going to post my info and pics on gay site. you also threated to murder me through p.m. as well.
well guess what, id didnt take down the private message, dumbfuck, in fact i just posted it again.
so make good on those threats or forever be owned.
oh and have fun in prison, bitch; prison bitch.
That moved me
In jail I'll get practice
choke u
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Hey
You know what?
Dont open your mail ;D
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hmmmm
just to make steve pissed...
here it is, the private message i posted that he mad about
lets not forget, steve ray vaughn here is a convicted manufacturer and distributor of underground chinese shit.... he is currently awaiting sentencing and he has admitted he is being watched by law enforcement and DEA..
and here he is in an unsolicited private message trying to get me to buy steroids off of him =
Watch out dizzle!!
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Hey
You know what?
Dont open your mail ;D
HAHAHA dizzle is having a meltdown as usual
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dizzel
look outside
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Don't forget to take your Seroquel steveeray! It's not healthy to stop the meds!
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GH15
I know you are busy looking at your massive muscles in the
mirror and training for the next Arnold on your deluted powder but if you have time.
Contact me
It is way more important than your arm curls I promise
But if you don't want to talk about your inadiquicies
thats cool
Let em roll up on you again
Just giving you a little heads up from what I've learned
from the narcs affidavit
your grammmerrr is good like i thank them payple will take yee really serieeooos
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HAHAHAHAAA that craigslist m4m you posted for the dizzle is fuckin hilarious, stevie :)
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So cute isn't he ;)
Yes "he" is quite the bottom whore!!!
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Hey dizzel?
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But I like being mentally unstable
Yes, that's what all manic people think :D
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so candidizle has been recieving death threats?
Dayummmmm, Ron do something! ;D
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hahahha looks like Dizzle will learn the lesson of not putting your private info on the boards...
enjoy your newly found stalker hahhaha
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MELTDOWN!!!!!!!
OWNAGE!!!!!!!
SCORE!!!!!!!!
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I know Candyass was counting on the internet to be a new beginning to his life. He obviously was one of those kids who got picked on and beat up a lot growing up and he was hoping he could be the same asshole and twerp he is in real life but no one would pick on him on the internet. Now he is constantly getting picked on and getting an internet beating. Where else does this tool have to go. I hope he doesn't lose it like Squad. Candyass is a blast to make fun of and really easy too.
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Back to the batcave
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does anyone understand a thing this steveeray gimmick says?
is he retarded? ::)
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Maybe steveEray is Alex23 or flexingtonsteele under Alex's orders?
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Maybe steveEray is Alex23 or flexingtonsteele under Alex's orders?
are you saying Alex fed more personal info to another strung out drug abuser to post online?
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are you saying Alex fed more personal info to another strung out drug abuser to post online?
Probably has a throne on top of his hummer where he sits with his jester(flexintonsteele) and two servants(DA and this queer)
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Probably has a throne on top of his hummer where he sits with his jester(flexintonsteele) and two servants(DA and this queer)
hahaahah
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Back to the batcave
I don't know why but this post really made LOL :D
Batshit Crazy
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lets not forget, steve ray vaughn here is a convicted manufacturer and distributor of underground chinese shit....
Cumdrinker, for the last stop stop using phrases like "underground chinese shit", seriously regurgitating gh15 catchphrases doesnt make u look smart, it makes
u look stupid. U dont actually know anything about anything, you just copy and paste gh15's posts.
You wouldn't even know that there were powders in china, because you have nothing to do with any of this.
So stop swinging off gh15 imaginary nuts, fag.
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Is this thread about GOLF???.
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Is this thread about GOLF???.
Baseball
All about baseball ;D
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lol tacobell must be a real life steve ray vaughn
Not sure what that even means there stud. ::)
But admit it, someone could put 10grams of "chinese garbage" powder in your hands and the only thing you'd think to do with it would be stick it up your nose.
So, admit you dont know jack about shit, and that you're in no way qualified to even be in half the conversations you throw your worthless 2 cents into, and
I'll stop calling you out on it.
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Not sure what that even means there stud. ::)
But admit it, someone could put 10grams of "chinese garbage" powder in your hands and the only thing you'd think to do with it would be stick it up your nose.
So, admit you dont know jack about shit, and that you're in no way qualified to even be in half the conversations you throw your worthless 2 cents into, and
I'll stop calling you out on it.
All true ownage ;D
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poor dizzle, now saying i am steveray. Just take it like a man, he's ruining you
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3 DUDES IN A ROW ON MY NUTZ
FUCK
I MUST BE WHAT THEY CALL "QUEER BAIT" ???
HAHAHA
guys
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3 DUDES IN A ROW ON MY NUTZ
FUCK
I MUST BE WHAT THEY CALL "QUEER BAIT" ???
HAHAHA
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meltdown
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3 DUDES IN A ROW ON MY NUTZ
FUCK
I MUST BE WHAT THEY CALL "QUEER BAIT" ???
HAHAHA
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So is that an admittence you are a homosexual? ;D
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will, no; this is not one of your midnight fantasies
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man o man, you all have alot of spare time on your hands lol if i were someone and they posted my personal info, they would get dropped :o i say quit threatning folks or do something. hey dizzle, dont mess or even engage with dudes that fucked their lives up and now being watched and eventually locked up for poor life choices fuck em all dude
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will, no; this is not one of your midnight fantasies
Meltdown gaylor[D] ;D
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man o man, you all have alot of spare time on your hands lol if i were someone and they posted my personal info, they would get dropped :o i say quit threatning folks or do something. hey dizzle, dont mess or even engage with dudes that fucked their lives up and now being watched and eventually locked up for poor life choices fuck em all dude
Yep
Kinda like a PM
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nah cj i am done with this steve ray gimmick.. i am pretty sure its benz.. either way though the poster, whoever he is, is retarded and nothing to take note of
Candy I assure Steve Eray is no gimmick (definitely not Benz or any else like that), and I would suggest you stop fucking with him. Steve knows a lot of people in the BB world. When it comes to Chinese powdered gear what do you think you were using? To Steve and Candy I will ask both of you please stop this bs.
Candy you should never ever post private PM's on the open board. If someone sends you PM's that you don't like, or feel are unsafe forward them to Rim, AJ, or DIV. They are the mods and they will make the decisions on how to handle it. You are not GH15 and dont try to act like him, you will gain no ones respect that way. Really your just a kid, and you don't want to fuck with the wrong people. I'm not making threats because I like you and Steve, I'm also not saying Steve is the wrong person to fuck with. Just don't play stupid games. Both of you guys be careful.
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Why are you a punk who crys because you ask a question.
I answer your PM and you post the personal message.
Why are you GH15's gay lover.
Inquirring Minds Want to know?????
Meltdown
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Candy I assure Steve Eray is no gimmick (definitely not Benz or any else like that), and I would suggest you stop fucking with him. Steve knows a lot of people in the BB world. When it comes to Chinese powdered gear what do you think you were using? To Steve and Candy I will ask both of you please stop this bs.
Candy you should never ever post private PM's on the open board. If someone sends you PM's that you don't like, or feel are unsafe forward them to Rim, AJ, or DIV. They are the mods and they will make the decisions on how to handle it. You are not GH15 and dont try to act like him, you will gain no ones respect that way. Really your just a kid, and you don't want to fuck with the wrong people. I'm not making threats because I like you and Steve, I'm also not saying Steve is the wrong person to fuck with. Just don't play stupid games. Both of you guys be careful.
Thread ended just like that
DAMN!!!!!
I really was messing with his head
Psycological Warfair at its best,,,,cheap and effective
Case closed
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Who is steve?
If you don't know it don't matter!
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Who is steve?
Huh!
I thought you were Steve ???
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When real life is no longer cooler then online life; you find yourself here and wonder why.
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When real life is no longer cooler then online life; you find yourself here and wonder why.
Want my life? ;D
No charge
Well there is charges but I'd tell you that after we switched
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hahaha candijizzle is scared now
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Not sure what that even means there stud. ::)
But admit it, someone could put 10grams of "chinese garbage" powder in your hands and the only thing you'd think to do with it would be stick it up your nose.
So, admit you dont know jack about shit, and that you're in no way qualified to even be in half the conversations you throw your worthless 2 cents into, and
I'll stop calling you out on it.
Well this is a 100% true post. But Candyass is too stupid to realize it.
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^^^
Yes, yes he is......Thanks Keith ;)
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i would meltdown and insult your intelligence and your claims at being a state ranked bodybuilder, TB; but i like the nacho cheese chalupa's way too much so ill just leave you and your hate alone
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I have read some of Candiz's posts on other threads,
and he is pretty quick to insult.
Many of the posters here on getbig will be at the Mr. O (including me),
and if candiz wants to be a bodybuilder, he should go.
But then again, he has insulted so many people, and his picture
has been posted so many places, he may want to think 2x.
Candiman, I would calm down real quick.
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I have read some of Candiz's posts on other threads,
and he is pretty quick to insult.
Many of the posters here on getbig will be at the Mr. O (including me),
and if candiz wants to be a bodybuilder, he should go.
But then again, he has insulted so many people, and his picture
has been posted so many places, he may want to think 2x.
Candiman, I would calm down real quick.
thats not true. go back and read the posts. i will "meltdown" pretty easily because its fun... but i dont attack anybody unless they instigate it. i am a pretty nice and positive guy otherwise.
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thats not true. go back and read the posts. i will "meltdown" pretty easily because its fun... but i dont attack anybody unless they instigate it. i am a pretty nice and positive guy otherwise.
you even threatened ron to call the feds for having a board full of roid dealers, what a "man" ::)
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i am a pretty nice and positive guy otherwise.
So you admit you've got the HIV? ???
Geeee... I wonder how you caught it ::)
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LOL
see what i mean chainsaw?
theres a bunch of guys here who just go around flaming and insulting and projecting their self hate and insecurities onto other people...
i dont instigate any arguments or insults but when they come to me i do often times have fun with it and spread some entertainment by melting down and letting thoughts flow from my finger tips (hence the spelling errors, lol)
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LOL
see what i mean chainsaw?
theres a bunch of guys here who just go around flaming and insulting and projecting their self hate and insecurities onto other people...
i dont instigate any arguments or insults but when they come to me i do often times have fun with it and spread some entertainment by melting down and letting thoughts flow from my finger tips (hence the spelling errors, lol)
werent you the one that admitted a "change" in your personality after you started using roids ::) ::) ::)
also a "roids rage" case ::) ::) ::)
sounds like the only one projecting self hate and insecurities here, is you
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benz you are so cute, babY
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Candidizzle, I take it you and Steveeray have made peace now? He took down your craigslist men-seeking-men ad.
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i would meltdown and insult your intelligence and your claims at being a state ranked bodybuilder, TB; but i like the nacho cheese chalupa's way too much so ill just leave you and your hate alone
I would love yo see your attempt at insulting my intelligence, I'm sure you barely have enough brain cells left to provide me a good laugh.
And as for my "claims", I really dont consider them to be all that impressive, however, if to you they seem over the top, well that says more about your potential than it does about me, now doesnt it.
And for the record, I dont hate at all, theres nothing to about you to hate. I'm sure you're just regurgitating rap phrases like you do gh15 quotes, and calling everyone who tells you what an idiot you are "a hater", but the truth is your a little twat who could stand to shut his mouth and open his ears.
You see guys like me in the gym, and we inspire you, you want to look like me... and even on that day where you're having a great workout, and really "feeling yourself", as you stand there posing in the mirror, I'm still standing there laughing, thinking wtf is this tiny fag doing?
:D
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I would love yo see your attempt at insulting my intelligence, I'm sure you barely have enough brain cells left to provide me a good laugh.
And as for my "claims", I really dont consider them to be all that impressive, however, if to you they seem over the top, well that says more about your potential than it does about me, now doesnt it.
And for the record, I dont hate at all, theres nothing to about you to hate. I'm sure you're just regurgitating rap phrases like you do gh15 quotes, and calling everyone who tells you what an idiot you are "a hater", but the truth is your a little twat who could stand to shut his mouth and open his ears.
You see guys like me in the gym, and we inspire you, you want to look like me... and even on that day where you're having a great workout, and really "feeling yourself", as you stand there posing in the mirror, I'm still standing there laughing, thinking wtf is this tiny fag doing?
:D
Why are all the little gimmicks after Candizzle? Hasn't he suffered enough? :'(
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Why are all the little gimmicks after Candizzle? Hasn't he suffered enough? :'(
I'm absolutely not a gimmick bro, I have another well know username but its not from this board.
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LOL
see what i mean chainsaw?
theres a bunch of guys here who just go around flaming and insulting and projecting their self hate and insecurities onto other people...
i dont instigate any arguments or insults but when they come to me i do often times have fun with it and spread some entertainment by melting down and letting thoughts flow from my finger tips (hence the spelling errors, lol)
Denial
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What you know about me is what i let you know about me. its as simple and as plain as that. anything and everything youve heard anyone say or seen anyone post is only what ive alowed them to. not a single person here has ever met me or knows me in the slightest.
As far as my brain cells go, only someone who lacks intelligence feels the need to portray themself as being intelligent. what do i care what you think of me ? my Iq could be 70 or it could be 155, or anywhere in between you dont know.
You dont inspire me. your body does not inspire me. i would never want to look like you.
how do i know this ?
maybe im smarter than you think
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Jesus Christ give me strength :-X
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As far as my brain cells go, only someone who lacks intelligence feels the need to portray themself as being intelligent.
Actually, I'm sure you'll realize when you're an adult that most people like to portray intelligence.
No wonder your a personal trainer ::)
If you ever get a job interview and stop living off your parents, walk in there and tell the interviewer you don't need to illustrate intelligence, and to give you a job, and not to be a "hater".
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Actually, I'm sure you'll realize when you're an adult that most people like to portray intelligence.
No wonder your a personal trainer ::)
If you ever get a job interview and stop living off your parents, walk in there and tell the interviewer you don't need to illustrate intelligence, and to give you a job, and not to be a "hater".
HAHAHAHAHA CUMDRIZZLE = PWND HAHAHAHAAAAA
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having a superiority complex talking with arrogance and a bad attitude and calling other people idiots is a sign that you want to portray intelligence, it is NOT portraying intelligence. theres a big difference my friend.
i give you an example.... look at a board member here named debussey. the guy puts out zero effort trying to portray intelligence. yet he portrays it perfectly because he IS IT. now take a guy like you, trying to portray expertise and intelligence and superiority with every word you type, yet it reeks through your post that your none of those things.
:D
hope this helps.
back to being candidizzle for me
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shouvel
lime
Potato sack
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having a superiority complex talking with arrogance and a bad attitude and calling other people idiots is a sign that you want to portray intelligence, it is NOT portraying intelligence.
I've only called one person an idiot, you.
You can keep using you your psychoanalytical bullshit all you want, but I dont have a superiority complex or a bad attitude to anyone other than you.
Why? Because this board is filled with YOUR know it all bullshit, and none of it is actually your original knowledge or experience.
Theres an old saying, "those who cant do, teach", and its rather applicable.
Why don't you "marinate" on that for a while. ;D
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Oh, and if anyone is arrogant, its you.
There are 10 people in this thread telling you to stfu, and you don't, because you're so confident that you are right and everyone else is wrong, and that you're gonna come out on top.
Take your whooping son
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Thaank God for drugs
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I've only called one person an idiot, you.
You can keep using you your psychoanalytical bullshit all you want, but I dont have a superiority complex or a bad attitude to anyone other than you.
Why? Because this board is filled with YOUR know it all bullshit, and none of it is actually your original knowledge or experience.
Theres an old saying, "those who cant do, teach", and its rather applicable.
Why don't you "marinate" on that for a while. ;D
Guys, why is it that anytime somebody evaluates another persons personality and thought process that simply labeling it as "psychoanalytical bullshit" always seems to clear up the assesment with no problems?
LOL
tacobell like i said i enjoy the chalupa's so i take it easy on you
whos telling me to "stfu" other than you ? i think steve just told me to take down the private message he sent me. i think columbus here is just playing his little cartman character and flaming for the laughs, and benz can be found in any thread doing this same "OWNED" bullshit..
so its just you partner
and what exactly am i thinking i am right, and your wrong ? i dont ever recall any kind of argument here ? just flaming..
see, NOW, your just making shit up
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taco i just erased some posts
im tired of arguing
im going to send you a p.m.
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wack
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tired of your self righteous bullshit double standard
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You don't know to quit punk.
This is an adult board go play elsewhere
When you give people advice on this board unfortunatly
they listen.
What you say can endanger people and you don't realize this.
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Going off board a couple of days
have fun
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thats not true. go back and read the posts. i will "meltdown" pretty easily because its fun... but i dont attack anybody unless they instigate it. i am a pretty nice and positive guy otherwise.
Yea but you are still a little punk with a big mouth and nothing to back it up. In other words you are a kid with no balls. The typical internet tough guy. Other than that you are okay. Being gay doesn't even matter, you are still a dick.
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Yea but you are still a little punk with a big mouth and nothing to back it up. In other words you are a kid with no balls. The typical internet tough guy. Other than that you are okay. Being gay doesn't even matter, you are still a dick.
tell us how you really feel ::)
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I'm absolutely not a gimmick bro, I have another well know username but its not from this board.
burger king ?
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burger king ?
Too far bro, too far >:(
:P
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jizzle always talk about how smart he is, yet all he could achieve in his life was a "strange" pt diploma.
i guess economy, biology, etc, was too easy for his iq ::)
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I would love to slap the cum off candyjizzle's mouth.
and jizzle, trust me, no one here thinks you're intelligent, and you've never "portrayed" intelligence.
not for one second.
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I would love to slap the cum off candyjizzle's mouth.
and jizzle, trust me, no one here thinks you're intelligent, and you've never "portrayed" intelligence.
not for one second.
well thats because.... im not :)
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jizzle always talk about how smart he is, yet all he could achieve in his life was a "strange" pt diploma.
i guess economy, biology, etc, was too easy for his iq ::)
what about you brainiac? come on blow us away.
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candy ignore these haters. you know you are smarter then them when every insult they throw at you is 'kid' 'teen' 'twink' etc. from what i have read you do indeed know alot about this 'sport'. your age is irrelevant.
keep on posting 8)
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candy ignore these haters. you know you are smarter then them when every insult they throw at you is 'kid' 'teen' 'twink' etc. from what i have read you do indeed know alot about this 'sport'. your age is irrelevant.
keep on posting 8)
Only experience can give you knowledge my friend. Candid is a foul mouth
that will NEVER get anyones respect as long as he acts like a complete Jackass
which he has proven post after post after post.
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Only experience can give you knowledge my friend. Candid is a foul mouth
that will NEVER get anyones respect as long as he acts like a complete Jackass
which he has proven post after post after post.
experience of what? how much is enough? he has had a drug habit, been fat, turned it around. ( some life experience)
he works out and is now a qualified pt and has been/is on a cycle of gear. ( gym experience)
he has clearly read a lot about bodybuilding/physiology/diet/pharmacology.
he knows lots about this industry, how it works and the names/faces behind it. (getbig experience)
he's went toe to toe with every big name gimick on getbig and is still here.
i understand acedemic knowledge is different from experience, but everyone on here acts like he just logged in and knows nothing.
whenever he debates with anyone, and states his thoughts on the matter at hand he's disregarded as 'a teen' ' kid' etc.
i don't agree with half the things he says but i ignore him on being wrong in regards to science or the basis of his arguments, not on his age or just his perceived experience (gear experience apart)
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experience of what? how much is enough? he has had a drug habit, been fat, turned it around. ( some life experience)
he works out and is now a qualified pt and has been/is on a cycle of gear. ( gym experience)
he has clearly read a lot about bodybuilding/physiology/diet/pharmacology.
he knows lots about this industry, how it works and the names/faces behind it. (getbig experience)
he's went toe to toe with every big name gimick on getbig and is still here.
i understand acedemic knowledge is different from experience, but everyone on here acts like he just logged in and knows nothing.
whenever he debates with anyone, and states his thoughts on the matter at hand he's disregarded as 'a teen' ' kid' etc.
i don't agree with half the things he says but i ignore him on being wrong in regards to science or the basis of his arguments, not on his age or just his perceived experience (gear experience apart)
Anyone posting PM's on a public board, is moronish. He is taking 1 cycle, big deal. He's read from a book to get his PT certification.. A year or 2 of bobybuilding does not = very much experience. But then again, I've spent 10+ years at the mecca, where the best in the world train, so my definition of experiece definately is different from someone who has probably never stepped foot in there.
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Anyone posting PM's on a public board, is moronish. He is taking 1 cycle, big deal. He's read from a book to get his PT certification.. A year or 2 of bobybuilding does not = very much experience. But then again, I've spent 10+ years at the mecca, where the best in the world train, so my definition of experiece definately is different from someone who has probably never stepped foot in there.
i think posting pm's is wrong, however not in this case, and heres why:
1. this steveray gimick appears out of the blue a few weeks ago, and is already pm'ing people selling gear ::)
2. candy is public enemy no.1 on getbig for some reason, and probably thought it was a gimick trying to wind him up.
3. if and its a BIG if this steveray gimick is real then he's being watched and will only bring bad stuff to the board, especially trying to sell gear ::)
so in short candy was in effect protecting himself and the board. 8)
as for your experience in the gym ::) lifting weights isn't all that hard 'chief' you lift a weight and put it down. 2 years experience of lifting is plenty, unless the weights at golds venice tell you secrets as you lift them ::)
oh and the people who train there are only the best in the world due to drug dosage not lifting ability.
hope this helps 8)
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SteveE is not a gimmick, trust me.
"oh and the people who train there are only the best in the world due to drug dosage not lifting ability"
Fatpanda please dont be one of those people who thinks that drugs is what seperates them from the big boys,
it's simply not true.
10% diet
10% training
30% drugs
50% genetics
Look at Sevatese, he maximizes 3 of those factors, but without the genetics.....
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SteveE is not a gimmick, trust me.
"oh and the people who train there are only the best in the world due to drug dosage not lifting ability"
Fatpanda please dont be one of those people who thinks that drugs is what seperates them from the big boys,
it's simply not true.
10% diet
10% training
30% drugs
50% genetics
Look at Sevatese, he maximizes 3 of those factors, but without the genetics.....
i am one of those people because its true.
i would disagree on your ratios. heres my thoughts on the matter:
40% drugs
40% diet
15% training
5% genetics
simply because without calores you can't put on muscle. without gear you can't maximise calories being stored as muscle rather than fat, diet also shifts this balance in the muscle side, training again tilts the balance in favour of muscle, and a small effect is genetics which has a small effect on p ratios, natural test/estrogen levels, and responce to gear.
i would disagree that sava fulfills those criteria or yours.
he plays tennis all day (sapping recovery, and wasting calories)
he doesn't eat enough ( low calories)
he lives in romania ( poor quality food)
he may have used fake gear or real stuff - however without adequate calories it would be wasted anyway - as it has been.
also we don't know enough about his training methods to know if he's doing enough in the gym either.
cue sava posting 1000pics ;D
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fatpanda...WOW... thats really awesome of you to back me up, dude. i appreciate that. truly.
i would agree with taco that genetics plays a huge role. i also think that 98 % of people have similar genetics though. so that being said, i think for 98% ; given that they are all training hard and eating enough protein and calories to grow, the determining fatcor will be how much risk they are willing to take in the drugz department.
steve i know your not fake i took down the private message and i tried to settle this with you... thats all i can do for you bro..
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I don't need your help you arrogant little asshole!
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i am one of those people because its true.
i would disagree on your ratios. heres my thoughts on the matter:
40% drugs
40% diet
15% training
5% genetics
simply because without calores you can't put on muscle. without gear you can't maximise calories being stored as muscle rather than fat, diet also shifts this balance in the muscle side, training again tilts the balance in favour of muscle, and a small effect is genetics which has a small effect on p ratios, natural test/estrogen levels, and responce to gear.
i would disagree that sava fulfills those criteria or yours.
he plays tennis all day (sapping recovery, and wasting calories)
he doesn't eat enough ( low calories)
he lives in romania ( poor quality food)
he may have used fake gear or real stuff - however without adequate calories it would be wasted anyway - as it has been.
also we don't know enough about his training methods to know if he's doing enough in the gym either.
cue sava posting 1000pics ;D
Lets not cue those 1k pics ;)
Except here is the prob with your analysis...
Put me on 1g of test and 100mg of Dbol (sev's cycle) and I will blow up... and I can assure u my diet is garbage.
But its not cause of the drugs, its cause of my genetics, though not in the typical sense of the word.
Responding well to gear is a genetic factor...
Take 50 people off this board and put them on Phil Heath's exact program, regimine, and diet.
Would they all grow? Sure. But you'd be lucky if even 1 could win a local show.
Genetics is 50% of the equation
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If you are here for just yourself
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Im not in anyway "better than thou"
You brothers who really know me know how I am
You have to earn your stripes
They are not given or owed
And you don't just take them because you think your entitled or because
of who you know or who's on your team.
Research and do your time
Even though I've done my time I still find myself holding back on advice
I'm not 100 percent sure of.
I have no issues with anyone
This is a chat board and is for information only like Ron has said.
Also what happens in my life is my life and if someone tries to take down me
or my family it is at that time personal. If I try to help someone then take it or leave it.
We have not taken any charity from anyone.
People have helped us from time to time.
I guess what I'm trying to say is.
Dont come on this board
is it skunk? or mexi weed? lol ;D
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Lets not cue those 1k pics ;)
Except here is the prob with your analysis...
Put me on 1g of test and 100mg of Dbol (sev's cycle) and I will blow up... and I can assure u my diet is garbage.
But its not cause of the drugs, its cause of my genetics, though not in the typical sense of the word.
Responding well to gear is a genetic factor...
Take 50 people off this board and put them on Phil Heath's exact program, regimine, and diet.
Would they all grow? Sure. But you'd be lucky if even 1 could win a local show.
Genetics is 50% of the equation
sort of agree here.
my thoughts bove were assuming if all things were equal.
however i agree there is a probably a very small % of humans that respond very well to gear (talking ronnie, markus, dorian) also i agree that genetics in the form of limb length/height/joints/tendons etc are genetic and can improve a bodybuilders appearance, but thats miniscule mr o stuff.
i'm talking for general size(mass), definition, stength, etc most are pretty even, and with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe everyone could be standard mr o top 5-15 material.
see the all drugs thread for great talk on this subject. 8)
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sort of agree here.
my thoughts bove were assuming if all things were equal.
however i agree there is a probably a very small % of humans that respond very well to gear (talking ronnie, markus, dorian) also i agree that genetics in the form of limb length/height/joints/tendons etc are genetic and can improve a bodybuilders appearance, but thats miniscule mr o stuff.
i'm talking for general size(mass), definition, stength, etc most are pretty even, and with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe everyone could be standard mr o top 5-15 material.
see the all drugs thread for great talk on this subject. 8)
Yea I just saw that thread....
And you were doing so well until this...
"i'm talking for general size(mass), definition, stength, etc most are pretty even, and with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe everyone could be standard mr o top 5-15 material."
I'm telling you bro, I stopped competing 5ish years ago because I realized that no matter what, I'd never get a pro card, and I have good genetics.
I honestly believe that your sentence should read "with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe 1 in 1000 could reach national level npc respectability"
And I'm saying it from experience.
Had I chose to push it, I believe I could have reached the bottom of the pack of a quality lineup national show as a lightheavy/heavy.
And that was not something I wanted to believe at the time.
Think about how often you see someone in person who really really blows you away with their COMPLETE physique.
Its not that often.
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Yea I just saw that thread....
And you were doing so well until this...
"i'm talking for general size(mass), definition, stength, etc most are pretty even, and with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe everyone could be standard mr o top 5-15 material."
I'm telling you bro, I stopped competing 5ish years ago because I realized that no matter what, I'd never get a pro card, and I have good genetics.
I honestly believe that your sentence should read "with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe 1 in 1000 could reach national level npc respectability"
And I'm saying it from experience.
Had I chose to push it, I believe I could have reached the bottom of the pack of a quality lineup national show as a lightheavy/heavy.
And that was not something I wanted to believe at the time.
Think about how often you see someone in person who really really blows you away with their COMPLETE physique.
Its not that often.
gh15 always says this..that anybody can be national level with 5 years or so of consistant training diet and abuse of hormones.. but i think its because gh15 has good genetics himself and doesnt realize not everybody is going to get huge off of aas tthe way he did.
assuming gh15 is who most of us think he is..
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gh15 always says this..that anybody can be national level with 5 years or so of consistant training diet and abuse of hormones.. but i think its because gh15 has good genetics himself and doesnt realize not everybody is going to get huge off of aas tthe way he did.
assuming gh15 is who most of us think he is..
Well I have to totally agree with you here candyass. Look at yourself, you use a ton load of gear, and your still fat and look like shit, and wouldnt be top five at a regional show :)
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Well I have to totally agree with you here candyass. Look at yourself, you use a ton load of gear, and your still fat and look like shit, and wouldnt be top five at a regional show :)
exactly my point
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exactly my point
Good we agree on something
Cya on the in a few weeks
What are we training that day? Back? Chest? arms? Whatcha wanna do?
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gh15 always says this..that anybody can be national level with 5 years or so of consistant training diet and abuse of hormones.. but i think its because gh15 has good genetics himself and doesnt realize not everybody is going to get huge off of aas tthe way he did.
assuming gh15 is who most of us think he is..
Sounds like a muscletech ad.
The juice isnt the magic people wish it was.
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Good we agree on something
Cya on the in a few weeks
What are we training that day? Back? Chest? arms? Whatcha wanna do?
...not training with you..
but i hope you come to manteca and let me know where you at ill happily come and let alex make good on his threats to come "beat me up" LOL
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Sounds like a muscletech ad.
The juice isnt the magic people wish it was.
if you look at the pic of nasser when he was 20 y.o., then take a look at photos of him from 97 mr. o ... its easy to understand why he would think that anybody can become national level from aas... the guy is on phil heath's level of genetic response
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...not training with you..
but i hope you come to manteca and let me know where you at ill happily come and let alex make good on his threats to come "beat me up" LOL
awww come on candy, ive never trained with you before and thats such a nice gym in manteca. ;D
Come on dont be a puss! What are u afraid that a 180lbs natural is going to embarass you in the gym??? :o
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if you look at the pic of nasser when he was 20 y.o., then take a look at photos of him from 97 mr. o ... its easy to understand why he would think that anybody can become national level from aas... the guy is on phil heath's level of genetic response
oh absolutely... but your talking about 2 people in that top 1%
I feel completely different, and I'd guess I'm in the top 10%
And I am sooo far from them.....
Ever notice how the best players in sports dont make the best coaches?
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oh absolutely... but your talking about 2 people in that top 1%
I feel completely different, and I'd guess I'm in the top 10%
And I am sooo far from them.....
Ever notice how the best players in sports dont make the best coaches?
yeah or else charles glass, hany rombod and chad nicols would be 1 2 3 at the O every year LOL
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No Denise the Menis will mess with by day
Its my day Bitches ;D
My Kids said hi ;)
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I just say no to drugs
CPS dropped the case against us.
Fully custody returned signed by a judge.
The judge even told my daughter that what CPS did was wrong.
We have filled a suit on behalf of the kids
Today is a very good day!
That is great news brother!
I am truly happy for u and your family.
Buy those kids some ice cream ;)
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Just let me know if this alex and candy meeting is gonna happen.
I wouldn't miss it for all the free cheese burgers at wendys.
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Just let me know if this alex and candy meeting is gonna happen.
I wouldn't miss it for all the free cheese burgers at wendys.
now that you mention wendy's i remember when i went to mexico i mean MIAMI lol and i was waiting for the slave @ wendy's to take my order, i was 15 or so, all of sudden, a super sized black girl stood next to me and said "WHU YOUuuuuuUUUUUUUUU WANT SIIIIIIIR" .....fuck i was so scared, i didnt order anything, she was the girl version of tookie
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now that you mention wendy's i remember when i went to mexico i mean MIAMI lol and i was waiting for the slave @ wendy's to take my order, i was 15 or so, all of sudden, a super sized black girl stood next to me and said "WHU YOUuuuuuUUUUUUUUU WANT SIIIIIIIR" .....fuck i was so scared, i didnt order anything, she was the girl version of tookie
LOL!
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No Denise the Menis will mess with by day
Its my day Bitches ;D
My Kids said hi ;)
You mean what I think you mean Steve? You know for a fact, or just guessing?
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Care to tell us about your secret career, cumdrizzle? ::)
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hahaha that pic is awesome ;D
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Yea I just saw that thread....
And you were doing so well until this...
"i'm talking for general size(mass), definition, stength, etc most are pretty even, and with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe everyone could be standard mr o top 5-15 material."
I'm telling you bro, I stopped competing 5ish years ago because I realized that no matter what, I'd never get a pro card, and I have good genetics.
I honestly believe that your sentence should read "with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe 1 in 1000 could reach national level npc respectability"
And I'm saying it from experience.
Had I chose to push it, I believe I could have reached the bottom of the pack of a quality lineup national show as a lightheavy/heavy.
And that was not something I wanted to believe at the time.
Think about how often you see someone in person who really really blows you away with their COMPLETE physique.
Its not that often.
well we'll have to disagree then, but i leave you with this, if genetics are so important why is it that every study with steroids shows increases in muscle mass? despite being done on subjects with aids, muscular dystrophy, etc? surely these are not all genetic marvels?
as gh15 says if the gear is real pharma grade and calories are high enough there is no reason a tyical guy can't get to 220ish depending on height and proper training, then up another 30-40lbs when insulin-gh is added.
as for sava, either he was lying about the amount he took, used fake gear, or didn't eat enough.
as for you i believe you think you did everything right, but perhaps you didn't or had fake gear or under estimated your calories.
the top 5-15 at the mr o were once standard looking guys, big, etc but it wasn't untill the learned the right prep that they became mr o material.
your right i don't see people who blow me away with a complete physique often, but i believe its because bodybuilding is a dark art when it comes to diet, prep and drug usage, not gear as much as insulin/gh/igf1/t3, etc etc
these monsters have found out these dark secrets, and applied them diligently, eating every 3 hours, never missing training, combining drugs/disages and peptides correctly etc etc.
its complicated but not impossible.
and i honestly believe any average guy could be as big as a mr o top 5-15 if he had all the above knowledge and if he had the dedication.
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Yea I just saw that thread....
And you were doing so well until this...
"i'm talking for general size(mass), definition, stength, etc most are pretty even, and with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe everyone could be standard mr o top 5-15 material."
I'm telling you bro, I stopped competing 5ish years ago because I realized that no matter what, I'd never get a pro card, and I have good genetics.
I honestly believe that your sentence should read "with the right training, diet, drug regime i believe 1 in 1000 could reach national level npc respectability"
And I'm saying it from experience.
Had I chose to push it, I believe I could have reached the bottom of the pack of a quality lineup national show as a lightheavy/heavy.
And that was not something I wanted to believe at the time.
Think about how often you see someone in person who really really blows you away with their COMPLETE physique.
Its not that often.
well we'll have to disagree then, but i leave you with this, if genetics are so important why is it that every study with steroids shows increases in muscle mass? despite being done on subjects with aids, muscular dystrophy, etc? surely these are not all genetic marvels?
as gh15 says if the gear is real pharma grade and calories are high enough there is no reason a tyical guy can't get to 220ish depending on height and proper training, then up another 30-40lbs when insulin-gh is added.
as for sava, either he was lying about the amount he took, used fake gear, or didn't eat enough.
as for you i believe you think you did everything right, but perhaps you didn't or had fake gear or under estimated your calories.
the top 5-15 at the mr o were once standard looking guys, big, etc but it wasn't untill the learned the right prep that they became mr o material.
your right i don't see people who blow me away with a complete physique often, but i believe its because bodybuilding is a dark art when it comes to diet, prep and drug usage, not gear as much as insulin/gh/igf1/t3, etc etc
these monsters have found out these dark secrets, and applied them diligently, eating every 3 hours, never missing training, combining drugs/disages and peptides correctly etc etc.
its complicated but not impossible.
and i honestly believe any average guy could be as big as a mr o top 5-15 if he had all the above knowledge and if he had the dedication.