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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stark on June 17, 2008, 03:20:29 PM
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Much better, work ace
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;D
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So true.
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Much better, work ace
so youre promoting steroids now
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1553/162/ (http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1553/162/)
Not true. Jeff used MHP products to build his physique!
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Hats off to you!
If only Chick and all the other
Pro's would step up,
take the high road, and
tell it LIKE IT IS.. Instead of
watching Johnny Falcon kill himself injesting
glasses of Olive Oil.
The quote of this thread reminds me of
the Movie Love Actually.
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Don't work for what?
I've been eating nothing but supplements for the last 15 days. ::)
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I dont agree with the steroid part, but yeah dont buy supplements, especially if your in Australia
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Some "supplements" are actually obscure steroidal compounds imported from China and tainted with rat poison and lead.
Hope that helps. 8)
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Don't work for what?
I've been eating nothing but supplements for the last 15 days. ::)
Sure you have ::)
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Sure you have ::)
;D ;D
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Hats off to you!
If only Chick and all the other
Pro's would step up,
take the high road, and
tell it LIKE IT IS.. Instead of
watching Johnny Falcon kill himself injesting
glasses of Olive Oil.
The quote of this thread reminds me of
the Movie Love Actually.
Well Priest would tell it like it was and look how they treated him.Bob says No IFBB Pro uses or talks openly about their Drug use or abuse.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmm
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Steroids are awesome. I think if used in moderation they can be very useful to fend off the signs of aging. They are being used in England to help AIDS patients regain muscle mass. The same for cancer patients.
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Steroids are awesome. I think if used in moderation they can be very useful to fend off the signs of aging. They are being used in England to help AIDS patients regain muscle mass. The same for cancer patients.
this is the key
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Don't work for what?
I've been eating nothing but cock for the last 15 days. ::)
FIXED. :D
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Don't work for what?
I've been eating nothing but supplements for the last 15 days. ::)
Yeah, but you're an idiot Morgan Spurlock wannabe. ::)
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so youre promoting steroids now
The choice shouldn't be "steroids or supplements", the choice should be "steroids or food". Supplements don't do shit. If you wanna stay natural focus on a good diet, but don't waste your money on useless crap. Here's a good rule of thumb: if you can buy it legally, it's crap.
Hope this helps.
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Don't work for what?
I've been eating nothing but supplements for the last 15 days. ::)
hahahahahahahahahah Oh brother ::)
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Don't work for what?
I've been eating nothing but supplements for the last 15 days. ::)
u have been eating eggwhites to though.
not saying that supplements dont have any purpuse
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Then why wasn't the mantle of the "Steroid Guru", Dan Duchaine, lined up with bodybuilding trophies? Where were all his national titles and Mr Universe medals?
There should be no "either/or", when it comes to supplements vs. food. If you can reasonably afford both, then use both, especially if you have a stressful job in which sitting down to eat extra meals is difficult.
Taking a couple of Myoplex shakes while you're at work (during meetings and such, while everyone else is guzzling coffee and soda) will definitely help get your protein levels up. Protein powders work great, but not if you take them sparsely. And, we all know what creatine can do, as far as boosting strength goes.
As far as the pros go, they use supplements, too. Remember when MET-Rx hit the scene. IFBB pros and top NPC amateurs were raving about the stuff. Of course, after reading a few articles, particularly ones like "Probing the Pros" from MuscleMag in the mid-90s. It turned out that these guys ingest the stuff as if it's Kool-Aid, drinking 8 to 10 MET-Rx shakes per day.
Last time I checked 8 MET-Rx shakes totaled about 2000 calories and nearly 300 grams of protein. Combine that with a high-quality and quantity diet (and some anabolics) and it's little wonder why these guys are as massive as they are.
Three or four solid meals, combined with three to four liquid ones, can help just many folks get on path to size and strength.
Why debate between food and supplements? Use them both to reach your goals.
Diet and supplementation are even more critical for folks who aren't using anabolics.
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Then why wasn't the mantle of the "Steroid Guru", Dan Duchaine, lined up with bodybuilding trophies? Where were all his national titles and Mr Universe medals?
There should be no "either/or", when it comes to supplements vs. food. If you can reasonably afford both, then use both, especially if you have a stressful job in which sitting down to eat extra meals is difficult.
Taking a couple of Myoplex shakes while you're at work (during meetings and such, while everyone else is guzzling coffee and soda) will definitely help get your protein levels up. Protein powders work great, but not if you take them sparsely. And, we all know what creatine can do, as far as boosting strength goes.
As far as the pros go, they use supplements, too. Remember when MET-Rx hit the scene. IFBB pros and top NPC amateurs were raving about the stuff. Of course, after reading a few articles, particularly ones like "Probing the Pros" from MuscleMag in the mid-90s. It turned out that these guys ingest the stuff as if it's Kool-Aid, drinking 8 to 10 MET-Rx shakes per day.
Last time I checked 8 MET-Rx shakes totaled about 2000 calories and nearly 300 grams of protein. Combine that with a high-quality and quantity diet (and some anabolics) and it's little wonder why these guys are as massive as they are.
Three or four solid meals, combined with three to four liquid ones, can help just many folks get on path to size and strength.
Why debate between food and supplements? Use them both to reach your goals.
Diet and supplementation are even more critical for folks who aren't using anabolics.
meltdown
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Rich Gaspari said that he would of won the Olympia had he been able to access his line of supplements of today lol
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Then why wasn't the mantle of the "Steroid Guru", Dan Duchaine, lined up with bodybuilding trophies? Where were all his national titles and Mr Universe medals?
Because he had shit genetics.
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Rich Gaspari said that he would of won the Olympia had he been able to access his line of supplements of today lol
Gee, what possible motivation would he have for saying such a thing?
::)
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Because he had shit genetics.
Rich Gaspari supposedly had bad genetics. Yet somehow he managed to win his class at the Nationals, the Universe, place 2nd at the Olympia three times.
He even beat a guy, deemed to have great genetics (Victor Richards).
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Much better, work ace
thats point nr 3 in the bodybuilders book of truth
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Then why wasn't the mantle of the "Steroid Guru", Dan Duchaine, lined up with bodybuilding trophies? Where were all his national titles and Mr Universe medals?
Because he ate 1800 calories a day, and you should know this if you knew
Dan Duchaine at ALL!
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it's funny how people think you either need STEROIDS or SUPPS to build muscles...
pretty sad...
what about you just lift weights and eat a bit more proteins than the average joe? It does also build muscles, but not HUGE BIG MONSTER MUSCLES ...
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Because he ate 1800 calories a day, and you should know this if you knew
Dan Duchaine at ALL!
That was/is my point. I don't think bantamweights eat that little. Duchaine needed more calories and protein (solid and/or liquid) to build more size. But, he didn't, thinking the needle would solve his woes.
I think that had more to do with his lack of personal bodybuilding success (despite being the "Steroid Guru") than his allegedly bad genetics.
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it's funny how people think you either need STEROIDS or SUPPS to build muscles...
pretty sad...
what about you just lift weights and eat a bit more proteins than the average joe? It does also build muscles, but not HUGE BIG MONSTER MUSCLES ...
Some people need to eat more than just "a bit more" protein to put on significant size. And, if their lifestyle (work schedule, family situation, etc) doesn't allow for them to eat a bunch of solid meals, then implementing protein/weight-gainer/MRP shake is an excellent option.
If you can get the job done with just regular food, more power to you. But, if you can't, break out the shaker and/or the blender and go to work. The bottom line is: Eat (and if necessary, drink) the quantity and quality of calories you need to grow.
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Much better, work ace
yea kids take the advice of a know it all who knows nothing at all what a loser stark is
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Some people need to eat more than just "a bit more" protein to put on significant size. And, if their lifestyle (work schedule, family situation, etc) doesn't allow for them to eat a bunch of solid meals, then implementing protein/weight-gainer/MRP shake is an excellent option.
If you can get the job done with just regular food, more power to you. But, if you can't, break out the shaker and/or the blender and go to work. The bottom line is: Eat (and if necessary, drink) the quantity and quality of calories you need to grow.
I classify plain protein powder as a "food" not a "supplement". It's a convenience form of food that can be used in place of beef, eggs, fish at times and places where it is inconvenient to prepare and eat those foods. But you don't NEED protein powder to build muscle if you can eat enough real food, and you shouldn't rely on it or overdo it in any event.
That said, protein powder makes up a relatively small part of the world we call "supplements", and 95% of what is being sold by supp companies is useless crap.
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Then why wasn't the mantle of the "Steroid Guru", Dan Duchaine, lined up with bodybuilding trophies? Where were all his national titles and Mr Universe medals?
The extreme muscularity of pro bodybuilders is the result of massive anabolic drug use, but it does not follow that everyone who uses massive amounts of anabolic drugs will develop a Mr.Olympia physique. One thing does not necessarily lead to the other. Understand the difference.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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dan duchaine also trained like a pussy
he's a cool guy and contributed alot to the education of the bodybuilding community... but i wouldnt consider him a bodybuilder,.... just a guy who wanted to look good to get some pussy
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The extreme muscularity of pro bodybuilders is the result of massive anabolic drug use, but it does not follow that everyone who uses massive amounts of anabolic drugs will develop a Mr.Olympia physique. One thing does not necessarily lead to the other. Understand the difference.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Point taken. But, his physique was nowhere near national (or even state-level) caliber. That question was for the folks who cry "All Drugs", when it comes to certain folks' physiques.
dan duchaine also trained like a pussy
he's a cool guy and contributed alot to the education of the bodybuilding community... but i wouldnt consider him a bodybuilder,.... just a guy who wanted to look good to get some pussy
I'd suggest that this lackluster training and the reportedly pitiful consumption of 1800 calories per day had more to do with Duchaine's lack of success as a competitive bodybuilder than his allegedly bad genetics.
By the way, isn't/wasn't Duchaine credited with helping to introduce whey protein and ephedrine/ma huang to bodybuilding?
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yea kids take the advice of a know it all who knows nothing at all what a loser stark is
was there something "rk272727" ?
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I classify plain protein powder as a "food" not a "supplement". It's a convenience form of food that can be used in place of beef, eggs, fish at times and places where it is inconvenient to prepare and eat those foods. But you don't NEED protein powder to build muscle if you can eat enough real food, and you shouldn't rely on it or overdo it in any event.
Fair enough. I classify protein drinks (MRPs, weight gainers, protein powders) as supplements, because they provide super-contentrated forms of nutrients that, in some cases, are difficult to get in certain volume from regular food.
That said, protein powder makes up a relatively small part of the world we call "supplements", and 95% of what is being sold by supp companies is useless crap.
I wouldn't go as far as deeming 95% of supplements as useless. It's one of those cases of "Them that's got shall get; Them that's not shall lose". If your diet is terrible, all the NO-XPLODE, CELL-TECH, Methyl 1-D, etc. in the world won't put any sinew on your frame.
However, with your nutritional regime on point, supplements like these can help give you a boost or a kick-start to obtain that extra size and strength. The key to remember, as you may well agree, is that supplements are just that.....SUPPLEMENTS.
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it's funny how people think you either need STEROIDS or SUPPS to build muscles...
pretty sad...
what about you just lift weights and eat a bit more proteins than the average joe? It does also build muscles, but not HUGE BIG MONSTER MUSCLES ...
BTW, steroids without protein and carbs don't work, right?
I mean you have to eat tons of protein (e.g. from supplements) to be ALL DRUGS!
So it's rather steroids AND supps VS. steroids AND real food.