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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: delta9mda on June 18, 2008, 11:43:23 AM
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shawn got blown away!
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Ray - all the way.
Dorian is megaimpressive, but looks like a stone.
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shawn got blown away!
Only in terms of height.
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Either one could have won …
Both are my idols so it is hard to say … but if bodybuilding was judged fairly … definitely Shawn Ray
However Dorian got the leverage of being the reigning Mr. O which is a part of judging unofficially … also others officials influence on judging that night … but that is over and both were great champions … and it could have gone either way
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Shawn was too small to defeat Dorian. The end. I'm all for elaborate and detailed explanations for why things turn out the way they do, but in this case it is not rocket science.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Shawn was too small to defeat Dorian. The end. I'm all for elaborate and detailed explanations for why things turn out the way they do, but in this case it is not rocket science.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Highly agreed. Above all,BBing is about muscle. Size comes at first.
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Highly agreed. Above all,BBing is about muscle. Size comes at first.
Yeah, you don't need a PhD in physics or math to understand that, when two bodybuilders are ripped by one carries 50 lbs of muscle more than the other, than the one with more muscle wins. Anyone of average intelligence should be able to understand this simple concept.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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When did they decide that having AN UPSET at the Olympia would drive down ticket sales or lower interest in the "sport" ::)
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shawn was robbed, plain and simple. Doughian had a bloated stomach and only 1 arm, therefore he automatically should have lost. Doughian may have outweighed shawn by 50lb, but atleast 25 of those pounds were in his gut.
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shawn was robbed, plain and simple. Doughian had a bloated stomach and only 1 arm, therefore he automatically should have lost. Doughian may have outweighed shawn by 50lb, but atleast 25 of those pounds were in his gut.
Quit your crying, you racist. Shawn wasn't even visible when standing next to Dorian, like he didn't even exist. That's why Nasser easily replaced him as the second best BBer in the world the following couple of years.
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shawn was robbed, plain and simple. Doughian had a bloated stomach and only 1 arm, therefore he automatically should have lost. Doughian may have outweighed shawn by 50lb, but atleast 25 of those pounds were in his gut.
Shawn was GIFTED second place he was actually trailing Leverone after the pre-judging for THIRD place he only ' beat ' Kevin in the posing rounds to place second and when announced third the crowd booed Shawn was lucky
Shawn 1994 205 pounds , Dorian 262 pounds thats 57 pounds of muscle he's down in case you didn't know muscular bulk is part of the criteria and a very big part of it too , among other things , Dorian didn't have ' 1 arm ' he had one bicep shorter than the other stop being melodramatic
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both got levrOWNED
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shawn was robbed, plain and simple. Doughian had a bloated stomach and only 1 arm, therefore he automatically should have lost. Doughian may have outweighed shawn by 50lb, but atleast 25 of those pounds were in his gut.
naaaaa sweetheart...
as far as the judging criteria is concerned .... dorian wins on muscularity / balance symmetry proportian....... and he is taller and heavier.. and drier......... who wins?
injuries or not!..... the biceps are a small muscle group consisting of two heads.......
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both got levrOWNED
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hahhahahah not uaccording to bodybuilding judging criteria....
ur preference comin out again
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hahhahahah not uaccording to bodybuilding judging criteria....
ur preference comin out again
yeah the judging criteria that allowed bodybuilding to go down the shitter
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both got levrOWNED
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Kevin was holding water in the prejudging he was lucky to beat Shawn and he was never close to Yates in any contest I know that hurts you to hear but facts are facts.
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in a way i agree....... however dorian takin the sport to a "new" level........
made ronnie take things to new level........if dorian didnt push everyone....... then ronnie wouldnt have achieved his best shape/condition.....maybe 2001 arnold....and size in general....
ronnie was not ideal most of the time,,,,, but he was outstanding...
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Kevin was holding water in the prejudging he was lucky to beat Shawn and he was never close to Yates in any contest I know that hurts you to hear but facts are facts.
here's a fact
you would rather look like Mr. Levrone and you know his look would've been better for bodybuilding
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here's a fact
you would rather look like Mr. Levrone and you know his look would've been better for bodybuilding
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correct........
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Shawn was GIFTED second place he was actually trailing Leverone after the pre-judging for THIRD place he only ' beat ' Kevin in the posing rounds to place second and when announced third the crowd booed Shawn was lucky
Shawn 1994 205 pounds , Dorian 262 pounds thats 57 pounds of muscle he's down in case you didn't know muscular bulk is part of the criteria and a very big part of it too , among other things , Dorian didn't have ' 1 arm ' he had one bicep shorter than the other stop being melodramatic
Again, Yates was bloated, smooth and had a shitty tan.
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here's a fact
you would rather look like Mr. Levrone and you know his look would've been better for bodybuilding
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His look is pleasing but Bob Paris' look would have been better for bodybuilding , Lee Labrada's look would have been better for bodybuilding , that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it
in 1993 I was dumbfounded that Dorian beat Flex Wheeler I couldn't figure out why for the life of me and then you learn that what you think does or should win contests don't mean anything .
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here's a fact
you would rather look like Mr. Levrone and you know his look would've been better for bodybuilding
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Dorian changed bodybuilding, others changed forever trying to attain Dorian's size and conditoning. They are all beachballs now. Dorian was the last of the Granite bodybuilders.
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Again, Yates was bloated, smooth and had a shitty tan.
His stomach was bloated admittedly , smooth my ass he was dry & hard as nails and his tan was off
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DOZ was crushing everyone in this shot.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219911.0;attach=257733;image)
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His look is pleasing but Bob Paris' look would have been better for bodybuilding , Lee Labrada's look would have been better for bodybuilding , that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it
in 1993 I was dumbfounded that Dorian beat Flex Wheeler I couldn't figure out why for the life of me and then you learn that what you think does or should win contests don't mean anything .
indeed..... dorian won for obvious reasons.....
could bodybuilding have become more marketable if bob paris or/and labrada or ray/ levrone achieved multiple sandows?.... probably.....
dorian won according to bodybuilding judging criteria.......
please tell me u agree or disagree....then we can start a new argument........
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His look is pleasing but Bob Paris' look would have been better for bodybuilding , Lee Labrada's look would have been better for bodybuilding , that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it
in 1993 I was dumbfounded that Dorian beat Flex Wheeler I couldn't figure out why for the life of me and then you learn that what you think does or should win contests don't mean anything .
bob paris was incomplete compared to Mr. Levrone, Mr. Olympia still has to have size and Mr. Levrone had the best combo of size, shape, and aesthetics
and labrada was like 5'2 not marketable at all, you have to be at least average height
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indeed..... dorian won for obvious reasons.....
could bodybuilding have become more marketable if bob paris or/and labrada or ray/ levrone achieved multiple sandows?.... probably.....
dorian won according to bodybuilding judging criteria.......
please tell me u agree or disagree....then we can start a new argument........
Oh I agree Yates won simply because he meet the criteria better than his contemporaries , some may have had advantages in PARTS of the criteria but none had all the advantages he had in ALL of the judging criteria which is
Muscular Bulk
Muscle Density
Muscle Dryness
Muscle Balance
Muscle Proportion
Posing & Presentation
That is Yates
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Dorian changed bodybuilding
yeah he changed it for the worse and he should never be praised, he should be known as the man that killed competitive bodybuilding
Mr. Levrone's arms are twice his size :o :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219911.0;attach=257727;image)
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bob paris was incomplete compared to Mr. Levrone, Mr. Olympia still has to have size and Mr. Levrone had the best combo of size, shape, and aesthetics
and labrada was like 5'2 not marketable at all, you have to be at least average height
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incomplete? lmfao no he was not he was competing at 226 pounds which back in the 1980s was one of the bugger guys , in my opinion Paris has better shape & aesthetics , I would much rather look like Paris than Levrone
and Labrada was 5'6" and he was a marketing dream come true , he was handsome , articulate , educated , family man with a classic physique which could appeal to many people because he was ' attainable '
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incomplete? lmfao no he was not he was competing at 226 pounds which back in the 1980s was one of the bugger guys , in my opinion Paris has better shape & aesthetics , I would much rather look like Paris than Levrone
and Labrada was 5'6" and he was a marketing dream come true , he was handsome , articulate , educated , family man with a classic physique which could appeal to many people because he was ' attainable '
he was 226 at 6'0 and not as complete as Mr. Levrone
hey I wouldn't have complained if bob won the O
5'6 is still below average height
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yeah he changed it for the worse and he should never be praised, he should be known as the man that killed competitive bodybuilding
Mr. Levrone's arms are twice his size :o :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219911.0;attach=257727;image)
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All Kevin was was arms/shoulders legs with a mediocre midsection. He could never come in dry. In the judges eyes he never showed improvement. Post a pic of Kevin's christmas tree, oh wait there aren't any...
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yeah he changed it for the worse and he should never be praised, he should be known as the man that killed competitive bodybuilding
Mr. Levrone's arms are twice his size :o :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219911.0;attach=257727;image)
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Wow his arms are bigger lol spoken like a true fan-boy how do those massive arms pair up with his torso? oh they don't , Kevin was all arms & delts , back in the 90s he had a great set of quads but his calves lagged behind , as did his back and his conditioning was always hit or miss , whenever he tried to compete with Yates size wise his conditioning sucked whenever he dropped some pounds and came in sharp he looked small next to Yates , thats the main problem with a LOT of people they couldn't add enough size while maintaining that dense dry conditioning , Yates could
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Oh I agree Yates won simply because he meet the criteria better than his contemporaries , some may have had advantages in PARTS of the criteria but none had all the advantages he had in ALL of the judging criteria which is
Muscular Bulk
Muscle Density
Muscle Dryness
Muscle Balance
Muscle Proportion
Posing & Presentation
That is Yates
lmfao.............i luv it....
i couldnt agree more with that statement......
i realise dorian won because of the numbers because he was the best...... because nobody had more than him overall...............
he had less flaws than any human onstage
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Shawn was GIFTED second place he was actually trailing Leverone after the pre-judging for THIRD place he only ' beat ' Kevin in the posing rounds to place second and when announced third the crowd booed Shawn was lucky
Shawn 1994 205 pounds , Dorian 262 pounds thats 57 pounds of muscle he's down in case you didn't know muscular bulk is part of the criteria and a very big part of it too , among other things , Dorian didn't have ' 1 arm ' he had one bicep shorter than the other stop being melodramatic
"One bicep shorter than the other"
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219911.0;attach=257737;image)
I suppose Fedorov has "one Pectoral attached differently"
You are hilarious, really
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he was 226 at 6'0 and not as complete as Mr. Levrone
hey I wouldn't have complained if bob won the O
5'6 is still below average height
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not as complete my ass ! much better looking classical physique too
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All Kevin was was arms/shoulders legs with a mediocre midsection. He could never come in dry. In the judges eyes he never showed improvement. Post a pic of Kevin's christmas tree, oh wait there aren't any...
and dorian was all calves and back
merry christmas 8)
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"One bicep shorter than the other"
I suppose Fedorov has "one Pectoral attached differently"
You are hilarious, really
Biceps ( especially Yates ) are a much smaller muscle than a pec ( Which ironically Kevin had torn but that was ok ) this is 1993 and 1994 there is NOT much of a difference the biceps and in reality it would effect the front double biceps shot and thats it
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Wow his arms are bigger lol spoken like a true fan-boy how do those massive arms pair up with his torso? oh they don't , Kevin was all arms & delts , back in the 90s he had a great set of quads but his calves lagged behind , as did his back and his conditioning was always hit or miss , whenever he tried to compete with Yates size wise his conditioning sucked whenever he dropped some pounds and came in sharp he looked small next to Yates , thats the main problem with a LOT of people they couldn't add enough size while maintaining that dense dry conditioning , Yates could
yet somehow you think Mr. Levrone's look would've been better for the sport ::)
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not as complete my ass ! much better looking classical physique too
fine
like I said i wouldn't have complained if bob ever became Mr. O
good looking face and body, unlike the unmarketable from head to toe yates ::)
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and dorian was all calves and back
merry christmas 8)
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Unlike Kevin Dorian was massive everywhere , Kevin was all delts & biceps/triceps his back was missing in 1992-1994 by 1995 his width improved however his thickness lagged behind Yates especially in the lats , Kev was awesome but he couldn't beat Yates
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Biceps ( especially Yates ) are a much smaller muscle than a pec ( Which ironically Kevin had torn but that was ok ) this is 1993 and 1994 there is NOT much of a difference the biceps and in reality it would effect the front double biceps shot and thats it
show a pic where Mr. Levrone's torn pec is more of a distraction than dorian's missing bicep
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ur joking right?
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Biceps ( especially Yates ) are a much smaller muscle than a pec ( Which ironically Kevin had torn but that was ok ) this is 1993 and 1994 there is NOT much of a difference the biceps and in reality it would effect the front double biceps shot and thats it
Yes that's why after he tore his Bicep, Dorian would hold his front double bi pose for 1/1000th of a second and then hide it for the rest of the show.
Because there wasn't much of a difference :D ;D ::) :o :( :P
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yet somehow you think Mr. Levrone's look would've been better for the sport ::)
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None of that matters , competitive bodybuilding has nothing to do with marketablity and it shouldn't
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Unlike Kevin Dorian was massive everywhere , Kevin was all delts & biceps/triceps his back was missing in 1992-1994 by 1995 his width improved however his thickness lagged behind Yates especially in the lats , Kev was awesome but he couldn't beat Yates
dorian was especially massive in the gut, not so much in the chest :-\
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ur joking right?
holy shit Merry Christmas :o
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dorian was especially massive in the gut, not so much in the chest :-\
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Kevin was exactly know as Mr. Chest either...
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Yes that's why after he tore his Bicep, Dorian would hold his front double bi pose for 1/1000th of a second and then hide it for the rest of the show.
Because there wasn't much of a difference :D ;D ::) :o :( :P
Again I just showed you the pic there isn't that much of a difference , its there but again its NOT one of his strongest parts to begin with and its a small group if he tore a lat or a pec then there would be a big difference and ok lets say he should have lost the front double biceps shot he murder's everyone else in the other mandatory poses so we're back to square one.
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holy shit Merry Christmas :o
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FIXED
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219911.0;attach=257738;image)
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"One bicep shorter than the other"
I suppose Fedorov has "one Pectoral attached differently"
You are hilarious, really
federov's injury would effect the scoring the same way dorians injury did...?
federov's injury has ruined his physique which was good from very few angles ...now its good from even fewer angles.....
dorian was still good from more angles than any human onstage.........weak biceps....a fukn tiny muscle group.....
judge the numbers for fuk sake... judge the physiques according to bodybuilding criteria for once.... not just how u like it... and ur preference.....
thats like me spectating on another sport and making up my own new rules and preferences for what i think should be the result....
look at the numbers........ ffs
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None of that matters , competitive bodybuilding has nothing to do with marketablity and it shouldn't
oh brother i wonder why bodybuilding has such a small fanbase ::)
let's give the title to the guy with the ugliest physique because he meets our judging criteria and not worry about actually making money ::) ::) ::)
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dorian was especially massive in the gut, not so much in the chest :-\
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I remember when the misshapen blob of shit that is Dorian first came around and all I could think was "this guys stomach sticks out further than his chest, he looks 6 months pregnant"
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ur joking right?
Thats 92 and its no where neat this
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Kevin was exactly know as Mr. Chest either...
better than dorian's and also known as the man with the best side chest since Arnold 8)
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oh brother i wonder why bodybuilding has such a small fanbase ::)
let's give the title to the guy with the ugliest physique because he meets our judging criteria and not worry about actually making money ::) ::) ::)
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To the general public, all bodybuilders have ugly physiques. There are only a handful of bodybuilding fans. Most of which are gay. Explains why some get so buthurt that their guy that they call Mr._________ never won the O.
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I remember when the misshapen blob of shit that is Dorian first came around and all I could think was "this guys stomach sticks out further than his chest, he looks 6 months pregnant"
this is what most felt when they saw him on espn, many haven't paid attention to bodybuilding since :'(
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I remember when the misshapen blob of shit that is Dorian first came around and all I could think was "this guys stomach sticks out further than his chest, he looks 6 months pregnant"
He didn't have a gut in 1990 when he came around thats nonsense by 1993 he did but when held in it wasn't noticeable not what I consider pure bodybuilding but again thats bodybuilding today
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Thats 92 and its no where neat this
Exactly, Levrone had no kind of Xmas tree. He was holding water like a waterbed, perhaps that's why Earl takes such a liking to him?
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To the general public, all bodybuilders have ugly physiques. There are only a handful of bodybuilding fans. Most of which are gay. Explains why some get so buthurt that their guy that they call Mr._________ never won the O.
and the general public would all tell you that dorian had the ugliest and least marketable body
none of the bodybuilding fans i know are gay, the same can't be said about your social circles apparently :-X
and of course you defend dorian, he's 100% white Mr. "i wouldn't stand next to kevin because he is half black" ::)
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To the general public, all bodybuilders have ugly physiques. There are only a handful of bodybuilding fans. Most of which are gay. Explains why some get so buthurt that their guy that they call Mr._________ never won the O.
Right I read Bob Paris' book and in it he was at an icecream shot with a female friend and he excuses himself to go to the mens room and when he returned his female friend was upset he asked why and her response was do you see those young girls over there he was like yes , she said when you when to the mens room they came over and said your friend is goodlooking to bad he didn't have all those ugly muscles lol this was an a 220 pound guy at 6'0" tall !!
the general public could careless about competitive bodybuilding its always been a fringe sport and although it did enjoy more success at one time it will never be like mainstream sports its just to hard for the average person to relate to
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Sean Rey NEVER RECOVERED!!!!
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and the general public would all tell you that dorian had the ugliest and least marketable body
none of the bodybuilding fans i know are gay, the same can't be said about your social circles apparently :-X
and of course you defend dorian, he's 100% white Mr. "i wouldn't stand next to kevin because he is half black" ::)
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Are there things Earl? You should be happy you can have is Salami all to yourself. :D
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Exactly, Levrone had no kind of Xmas tree. He was holding water like a waterbed, perhaps that's why Earl takes such a liking to him?
ok dorian had a better christmas tree haha as if anybody cares about that when they get into working out
what about the arms, chest, shoulders, stomach and quad separation?
levrOWNED 8)
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Exactly, Levrone had no kind of Xmas tree. He was holding water like a waterbed, perhaps that's why Earl takes such a liking to him?
lmao.........
holding water like a waterbed.......
hahahha dorian was a fucking desert covered with a condom
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ok dorian had a better christmas tree haha as if anybody cares about that when they get into working out
what about the arms, chest, shoulders, stomach and quad separation?
levrOWNED 8)
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Was it not me that made Levrone Delete his account?
Levrowned!!!
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Sean Rey NEVER RECOVERED!!!!
whos he?
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Right I read Bob Paris' book and in it he was at an icecream shot with a female friend and he excuses himself to go to the mens room and when he returned his female friend was upset he asked why and her response was do you see those young girls over there he was like yes , she said when you when to the mens room they came over and said your friend is goodlooking to bad he didn't have all those ugly muscles lol this was an a 220 pound guy at 6'0" tall !!
the general public could careless about competitive bodybuilding its always been a fringe sport and although it did enjoy more success at one time it will never be like mainstream sports its just to hard for the average person to relate to
you don't get it, no matter what you look like there will always be somebody that thinks you look gross
apparently you didn't see the alan thicke talk show video where all the girls were drooling over bob's body,only the fattest and ugliest chicks thought he was unattractive, the cute ones couldn't keep their hands off of him
he would've been a far better mr. o than dorian, could you imagine an audience of women oogling over dorian hahahahaha
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ok dorian had a better christmas tree haha as if anybody cares about that when they get into working out
what about the arms, chest, shoulders, stomach and quad separation?
levrOWNED 8)
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Again you're fixed on a fan-boy interpretation on what bodybuilding is , who cares? the judges care its what they look for , what about arms? Kevin may have bigger biceps/triceps what about his forearms? what about the proportion between the arm group? what about the arms & delts matching the torso? what about torso length , leg length , what about calves in relation to quads? what about density & dryness?
sure Kevin does have some better parts than Yates but as a whole when all this are considered he can't touch Dorian and neither could anyone else.
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Was it not me that made Levrone Delete his account?
Levrowned!!!
haha keep telling yourself that if it will help you sleep better at night ;)
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Ray should have at least ONE O.
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haha keep telling yourself that if it will help you sleep better at night ;)
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LOL, he threaten to have Ron kick me off then he went guest....coincidence ::)
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Again you're fixed on a fan-boy interpretation on what bodybuilding is , who cares? the judges care its what they look for , what about arms? Kevin may have bigger biceps/triceps what about his forearms? what about the proportion between the arm group? what about the arms & delts matching the torso? what about torso length , leg length , what about calves in relation to quads? what about density & dryness?
sure Kevin does have some better parts than Yates but as a whole when all this are considered he can't touch Dorian and neither could anyone else.
haha you say dorian has better this or that yet at the end of the day you WOULD RATHER LOOK LIKE MR. LEVRONE HAHAHA
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LOL, he threaten to have Ron kick me off then he went guest....coincidence ::)
he thought that forums would keep assclowns like you in check and all forums except for getbig would :)
he actually thought forums were boring and he has too much time for this place, so why keep the account
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haha you say dorian has better this or that yet at the end of the day you WOULD RATHER LOOK LIKE MR. LEVRONE HAHAHA
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I would rather look like Steve Reeves that either of them , out of Yates & Levrone I would rather look like Levrone but that doesn't mean Dorian didn't deserve to beat him , thats the difference between you and I , I can separate my personal preference from what wins contests
1993 when Flex came along I thought he was the greatest his physique back in 1993 was a work of art . I seen him easily beating Yates and when he lost I just couldn't get it , how on earth did he win , you did some research and found out why lol I would rather look like Flex than Yates but Dorian was the clear winner .
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I was sitting front row at this fucking fixed contest. Shawn Ray pwned everybody
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he thought that forums would keep assclowns like you in check and all forums except for getbig would :)
he actually thought forums were boring and he has too much time for this place, so why keep the account
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Oh really he had ton's of posts, then he deleted them all right before he deleted his account. I pwned the shit out of that mental midget. You were buthurt for days stalking me in every post, you still haven't recovered.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=137980.msg1984256#msg1984256
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I would rather look like Steve Reeves that either of them , out of Yates & Levrone I would rather look like Levrone but that doesn't mean Dorian didn't deserve to beat him , thats the difference between you and I , I can separate my personal preference from what wins contests
1993 when Flex came along I thought he was the greatest his physique back in 1993 was a work of art . I seen him easily beating Yates and when he lost I just couldn't get it , how on earth did he win , you did some research and found out why lol I would rather look like Flex than Yates but Dorian was the clear winner .
and don't you think that the judging criteria has hurt the fanbase and maybe that should be changed so maybe the sport can generate more money?
i know it sounds crazy ::)
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I was sitting front row at this fucking fixed contest. Shawn Ray pwned everybody
Sure sure Shawn , recall what you said?
Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
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Oh really he had ton's of posts, then he deleted them all right before he deleted his account. I pwned the shit out of that mental midget. You were buthurt for days stalking me in every post, you still haven't recovered.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=137980.msg1984256#msg1984256
redline bombed at the box office and then his account disappeared, keep thinking that you ran off an uncrowned Mr. O if that makes you feel better about your life ::)
oh and you were stalking me, even went as far as using my name on a gay internet dating site lol so don't pretend that i was stalking you ;D
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and don't you think that the judging criteria has hurt the fanbase and maybe that should be changed so maybe the sport can generate more money?
i know it sounds crazy ::)
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More money lol its never going to be like baseball or football , could it improve sure , has it improved for the bodybuilders money wise? absolutely but again the average guy on the street can't relate to Yates or Leverone , anyone can buy a basketball for $10 bucks and play , it takes eons to gain size even with drugs the sport is a fringe one and the judges can ONLY judge what shows up in front of them
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More money lol its never going to be like baseball or football , could it improve sure , has it improved for the bodybuilders money wise? absolutely but again the average guy on the street can't relate to Yates or Leverone , anyone can buy a basketball for $10 bucks and play , it takes eons to gain size even with drugs the sport is a fringe one and the judges can ONLY judge what shows up in front of them
more money is always better
the sport is getting worse and worse all because of dorian's body
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redline bombed at the box office and then his account disappeared, keep thinking that you ran off an uncrowned Mr. O if that makes you feel better about your life ::)
oh and you were stalking me, even went as far as using my name on a gay internet dating site lol so don't pretend that i was stalking you ;D
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Epic bullshit, I found your gay page then it mysteriously disappeared. You claim it was fake, like Earl1972 is a common screen name ::)
He deleted his account, buy why all of his MELTDOWN threads? He couldn't handle it. He was LEVROWNED!!!! Do you still send him email begging him to comeback while wearing his used posing trunks with another pair in hand to sniff?
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Epic bullshit, I found your gay page then it mysteriously disappeared. You claim it was fake, like Earl1972 is a common screen name ::)
He deleted his account, buy why all of his MELTDOWN threads? He couldn't handle it. He was LEVROWNED!!!! Do you still send him email begging him to comeback while wearing his used posing trunks with another pair in hand to sniff?
if you didn't create it, that means you googled my name which would mean I was SERIOUSLY in your head ;D
he didn't meltdown but like i said numerous times keep telling yourself that you caused him to meltdown, it will be the highlight of your pathetic life :-*
i never emailed him and the "used posing trunks" joke is unoriginal and unfunny, hit me with something i haven't heard before :P
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if you didn't create it, that means you googled my name which would mean I was SERIOUSLY in your head ;D
he didn't meltdown but like i said numerous times keep telling yourself that you caused him to meltdown, it will be the highlight of your pathetic life :-*
i never emailed him and the "used posing trunks" joke is unoriginal and unfunny, hit me with something i haven't heard before :P
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LEVROWNED!!!!
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more money is always better
the sport is getting worse and worse all because of dorian's body
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Oh please stop trying to pin this on Yates , whats your excuse for 1998/1999/2000/2002/2003? what is it? Yates wasn't competing Levrone had free reign what he feel flat on his face compared to Ronnie like he did Yates see a pattern here? I know you're a fan-boy but Kevin never pulled it altogether he came close to Ronnie in 2000/2002 but he never closed there deal
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Oh please stop trying to pin this on Yates , whats your excuse for 1998/1999/2000/2002/2003? what is it? Yates wasn't competing Levrone had free reign what he feel flat on his face compared to Ronnie like he did Yates see a pattern here? I know you're a fan-boy but Kevin never pulled it altogether he came close to Ronnie in 2000/2002 but he never closed there deal
Earl's mancrush is legendary. It blinds him to that thing called......reality. 8)
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LEVROWNED!!!!
he put you in your place and if ron ran this place properly you woud've been gone, bitch :)
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Earl's mancrush is legendary. It blinds him to that thing called......reality. 8)
lol mancrush is he delusional but thats o.k most on here are lol
Lervone was awesome just not in Yates' league
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Oh please stop trying to pin this on Yates , whats your excuse for 1998/1999/2000/2002/2003? what is it? Yates wasn't competing Levrone had free reign what he feel flat on his face compared to Ronnie like he did Yates see a pattern here? I know you're a fan-boy but Kevin never pulled it altogether he came close to Ronnie in 2000/2002 but he never closed there deal
ronnie was a far better Mr. O than dorian but if you read my other posts I clearly stated that Mr. Levrone had a marketable body in 92
he then played the size game because the judges wanted ugly overly big bodies and was still better than everybody else, but his physique was less marketable
if they chose Mr. Levrone in 92 nobody would've played the size game and bodybuilding would be better off
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lol mancrush is he delusional but thats o.k most on here are lol
Lervone was awesome just not in Yates' league
more like logical
choosing a body that would be more marketable is anything but delusional 8)
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he put you in your place and if ron ran this place properly you woud've been gone, bitch :)
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Uhhh, don't think so. I gave him a verbal beatdown, he couldn't take it and deleted his account. Your recollection if the event is clouded by your love for "Mr. Levrone". :-X
How many of your 9000+ posts are dedicated to Levrone and protecting his honor?
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Uhhh, don't think so. I gave him a verbal beatdown, he couldn't take it and deleted his account. Your recollection if the event is clouded by your love for "Mr. Levrone". :-X
keep telling yourself this, it will help you sleep and feel better about your pointless life ;)
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ronnie was a far better Mr. O than dorian but if you read my other posts I clearly stated that Mr. Levrone had a marketable body in 92
he then played the size game because the judges wanted ugly overly big bodies and was still better than everybody else, but his physique was less marketable
if they chose Mr. Levrone in 92 nobody would've played the size game and bodybuilding would be better off
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You are clueless. Bodybuilding is about muscle in the end of the day. That means the only way to advance the sport is to get bigger with equal condition or better condition, which is exactly what Dorian did. Earl = getbig's closet homo hahahaha
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ronnie was a far better Mr. O than dorian but if you read my other posts I clearly stated that Mr. Levrone had a marketable body in 92
he then played the size game because the judges wanted ugly overly big bodies and was still better than everybody else, but his physique was less marketable
if they chose Mr. Levrone in 92 nobody would've played the size game and bodybuilding would be better off
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Nonsense the onslaught of IGF1 and other designer drugs made guys bigger it was going to happen and the difference between Yates' and other guys who pack on the pounds is he could maintain his density & dryness the heavier he became thats extremely hard to do as Levrone ;)
again was he not more marketable than Ronnie Coleman? whats your excuse for why he never got the job done after Yates retired?
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You are clueless. Bodybuilding is about muscle in the end of the day. That means the only way to advance the sport is to get bigger with equal condition or better condition, which is exactly what Dorian did. Earl = getbig's closet homo hahahaha
that's great if the midsection doesn't expand and bodyparts don't disappear
yates failed at that and you defend him because you're an ugly brit just like dorian hahaha :-\
and if i'm a closet homo for saying Mr. Levrone deserved to win than i guess you are too for defending dorian, "genius" ::)
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more like logical
choosing a body that would be more marketable is anything but delusional 8)
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again plenty of people more marketable than Levrone , Labrada for instance .
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Nonsense the onslaught of IGF1 and other designer drugs made guys bigger it was going to happen and the difference between Yates' and other guys who pack on the pounds is he could maintain his density & dryness the heavier he became thats extremely hard to do as Levrone ;)
again was he not more marketable than Ronnie Coleman? whats your excuse for why he never got the job done after Yates retired?
dorian started the onslaught
my "excuse" for him not beating ronnie is the same as the one for dorian, the judges prefer big bloated ugly unmarketable physiques
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again plenty of people more marketable than Levrone , Labrada for instance .
he was too short but he would've been better than yates
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keep telling yourself this, it will help you sleep and feel better about your pointless life ;)
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Like you sleeping in Kevin's posing trunks? How jealous of SpecialEd are you when he said Kevin's schlong was in his face?
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Yeah and his right delt reminds me of that cauliflower ear that dude Kimbo fought had the other night! Yates all the way!
delts are the number one bodypart that represent power and masculinity
something dorian lacked hahaha
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Like you sleeping in Kevin's posing trunks? How jealous of SpecialEd are you when he said Kevin's schlong was in his face?
another posing trunks joke, you should be sued for stealing jokes form 4 years ago you unoriginal simpleton :P
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dorian started the onslaught
my "excuse" for him not beating ronnie is the same as the one for dorian, the judges prefer big bloated ugly unmarketable physiques
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It's called bodybuilding for a reason.
Try fitness or ballet dancing, like Dorian would say.
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shawn was screwed in 94.
just look at how badly dorian's quads compare to even 'little' shawn's in the pics.
never mind most everything else.
dorian was not in his best shape in 94, and it really showed standing next to shawn in the shape of his life.
of course, the torn bi was really really bad..
Even shawn's back double bi was good enough for a close look standing next to dorian, something that even Musclemag reviewers specifically noted.
dorian looked like Fat Bastard's twin in 94:
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It's called bodybuilding for a reason.
Try fitness or ballet dancing, like Dorian would say.
where in "bodybuilding" does it say one should expand the waistline?
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It's called bodybuilding for a reason.
Try fitness or ballet dancing, like Dorian would say.
or sumo wrestling?
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Angry little midget hahaha. Shawn was invisible standing next to Dorian like a little child.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219911.0;attach=257761;image)
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Shawn looks good alone but completely disappears standing next to Yates.
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Angry little midget hahaha. Shawn was invisible standing next to Dorian like a little child.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=219911.0;attach=257761;image)
yeah dorian's waist was so wide shawn couldn't be seen :o
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I was sitting front row at this fucking fixed contest. Shawn Ray pwned everybody
Sean, was Sasha sucking your dick at this time?????? ::)
Shawn looks good alone but completely disappears standing next to Yates.
Sean looks invisible standing next to ANYONE over 5'2. ;D
Angry little midget hahaha. Shawn was invisible standing next to Dorian like a little child.
Sean IS AN ANGRY LITTLE MIDGET!
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shawn was robbed, plain and simple. Doughian had a bloated stomach and only 1 arm, therefore he automatically should have lost. Doughian may have outweighed shawn by 50lb, but atleast 25 of those pounds were in his gut.
haha thats right
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Hahaha, imagine Shawnee Raynette standing next to this monster.
BOOOM!
(http://www.joe0.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Dorian-Yates-2.jpg)
(http://www.joe0.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Dorian-Yates-1.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/dorianyates/images/yates_12.jpg)
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Hahaha, imagine Shawnee Raynette standing next to this monster.
BOOOM!
(http://www.joe0.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Dorian-Yates-2.jpg)
(http://www.joe0.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Dorian-Yates-1.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/photogalleries/dorianyates/images/yates_12.jpg)
That would be laughable.
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dorian didn't have two arms when Shawn owned him though. in the above shots he does. actually two 'mediocre' arms would be a better description..
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His look is pleasing but Bob Paris' look would have been better for bodybuilding , Lee Labrada's look would have been better for bodybuilding , that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it
in 1993 I was dumbfounded that Dorian beat Flex Wheeler I couldn't figure out why for the life of me and then you learn that what you think does or should win contests don't mean anything .
I agree with you, but Flex would never have won the O in 1993, not even if he was in his Arnold condition. Flex was not meant nor built to be Mr. O. Mr. O was about Freaky muscle, not about the best flowing, or as Mike Matarazzo put it, "Flex looked like he was hand-painted by god". I soon realize, that yeah, I thought and that Flex should have won, but he didn't meet the judging criteria.
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Shawn Ray proverbially shat all over Dorian at that Olympia.. he looked approximately 24892389832 TIMES better than Dorian, bless his soul.
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Flex could have been Mr. Olympia if he had Dorian or Ronnie's mental fortitude. He certainly had the genetics for it.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/37978-4/1996-noc-173.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=ad9569dbeac0bae502cb3e7be15c6819)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/34496-3/1996-mr-olympia-28.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=ad9569dbeac0bae502cb3e7be15c6819)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/29532-4/2007-arnold-classic-250.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=ad9569dbeac0bae502cb3e7be15c6819)
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dorian didn't have two arms when Shawn owned him though. in the above shots he does. actually two 'mediocre' arms would be a better description..
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(http://www.joe0.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Dorian-Yates-2.jpg)
Flex could have been Mr. Olympia if he had Dorian or Ronnie's mental fortitude. He certainly had the genetics for it.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/37978-4/1996-noc-173.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=ad9569dbeac0bae502cb3e7be15c6819)
Agree, Flex had one of the best physiques of all time. He just couldn't get super dry.
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What Earl1972, the legendary homosexual moron, doesen't understand is that, to the general public, Yates and Ray are equally "too big" and repulsive. In fact, anything more muscular than your average male underwear model is considered grotesquely muscular by the general public. So obviously, we have two options here: to enforce the traditional bodybuilding standard that prizes muscular size as the ultimate goal of bodybuilding, or to turn the Mr.Olympia into a male beauty pageant where Mr.Olympia is the guy with the most ripped abs and the most toned arms. There is no mid term here. I'm sorry, but I will take the former option rather than the latter.
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What Earl1972, the legendary homosexual moron, doesen't understand is that, to the general public, Yates and Ray are equally "too big" and repulsive. In fact, anything more muscular than your average male underwear model is considered grotesquely muscular by the general public. So obviously, we have two options here: to enforce the traditional bodybuilding standard that prizes muscular size as the ultimate goal of bodybuilding, or to turn the Mr.Olympia into a male beauty pageant where Mr.Olympia is the guy with the most ripped abs and the most toned arms. There is no mid term here. I'm sorry, but I will take the former option rather than the latter.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Bingo
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Sure sure Shawn , recall what you said?
Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
I can still remember the fans screaming for Shawn Ray as he turned around and hit those back poses. The fans went nuts and knew Mr. Ray was the winner. The guy is just amazing.
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Sean, was Sasha sucking your dick at this time?????? ::)
Sean looks invisible standing next to ANYONE over 5'2. ;D
Sean IS AN ANGRY LITTLE MIDGET!
Did you suck Milos cock for a free training session?
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unmarketable..... to bodybuilders he was, and as you all know, only bodybuilders watch bodybuilding.... he's so marketable that he's talked about much more than the last 2 olympians..
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What Earl1972, the legendary homosexual moron, doesen't understand is that, to the general public, Yates and Ray are equally "too big" and repulsive. In fact, anything more muscular than your average male underwear model is considered grotesquely muscular by the general public. So obviously, we have two options here: to enforce the traditional bodybuilding standard that prizes muscular size as the ultimate goal of bodybuilding, or to turn the Mr.Olympia into a male beauty pageant where Mr.Olympia is the guy with the most ripped abs and the most toned arms. There is no mid term here. I'm sorry, but I will take the former option rather than the latter.
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I hate when the term "more marketable" gets thrown around. Yes, the general public might find a Levrone type more pleasing than a Yates, but it's completely irrelevant, since they are not the target.
Bodybuilding's a niche and will not get to be more than that. If an MLB player gets busted for using a small amount of Winstrol, there's a public outcry. How would they accept a sport that is over 30% (40-50-60?) based on using illegal substances? What they think doesn't matter.
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Thing is, Dorian is not dwarfing Shawn in height. 3-5"?? In weight, sure. 205 compared to 260. BIG MOFO difference.
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bob paris was incomplete compared to Mr. Levrone, Mr. Olympia still has to have size and Mr. Levrone had the best combo of size, shape, and aesthetics
and labrada was like 5'2 not marketable at all, you have to be at least average height
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Labrada was not 5'2". More like 5'5".
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I can still remember the fans screaming for Shawn Ray as he turned around and hit those back poses. The fans went nuts and knew Mr. Ray was the winner. The guy is just amazing.
Really sections of the crowd Booed Me you Shawn placed ahead Levrone , and 1995 Shawn was constantly booed lol I wonder why lol
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shawn was screwed in 94.
just look at how badly dorian's quads compare to even 'little' shawn's in the pics.
never mind most everything else.
dorian was not in his best shape in 94, and it really showed standing next to shawn in the shape of his life.
of course, the torn bi was really really bad..
Even shawn's back double bi was good enough for a close look standing next to dorian, something that even Musclemag reviewers specifically noted.
dorian looked like Fat Bastard's twin in 94:
Yeah Shawn was screwed in 1994 and according to you Ronnie dominated in 2001 lol again what do you know about competitive bodybuilding? NOTHING ;)
you're really good at posting photoshopped pics ;)
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What Earl1972, the legendary homosexual moron, doesen't understand is that, to the general public, Yates and Ray are equally "too big" and repulsive. In fact, anything more muscular than your average male underwear model is considered grotesquely muscular by the general public. So obviously, we have two options here: to enforce the traditional bodybuilding standard that prizes muscular size as the ultimate goal of bodybuilding, or to turn the Mr.Olympia into a male beauty pageant where Mr.Olympia is the guy with the most ripped abs and the most toned arms. There is no mid term here. I'm sorry, but I will take the former option rather than the latter.
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what suckmymuscle the legendary angry, fat, gay alcoholic doesn't understand that yates is disgustingly big in the wrong places (waistline) and the general public would rather be dead than look like him hence the reason bodybuilding died when he became Mr. O
shawn and Mr. Levrone were too big in the eyes of a large part of the general public but there were far more people that admired their physiques and wanted to emulate them, if their physiques were Mr. Olympia there would be far less bellybuilders today and bodybuilders would not only look better but be healthier,oh the fanbase would be bigger too how many getbiggers say they hate the current physiques? many
we could stick to the current judging criteria where bodybuilding has a tiny fanbase compared to the past and the bodybuilders look like shit and are unhealthy
or we can choose the healthier aesthetic physiques that people actually admire and the sport will generate more money
it takes a complete retard to not understand this ::)
maybe you like the ugly physiques because you are a disgusting pile of shit, people tend to like whatever they can relate with hahahaha ;D
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what suckmymuscle the legendary angry, fat, gay alcoholic doesn't understand that yates is disgustingly big in the wrong places (waistline) and the general public would rather be dead than look like him hence the reason bodybuilding died when he became Mr. O
shawn and Mr. Levrone were too big in the eyes of a large part of the general public but there were far more people that admired their physiques and wanted to emulate them, if their physiques were Mr. Olympia there would be far less bellybuilders today and bodybuilders would not only look better but be healthier,oh the fanbase would be bigger too how many getbiggers say they hate the current physiques? many
we could stick to the current judging criteria where bodybuilding has a tiny fanbase compared to the past and the bodybuilders look like shit and are unhealthy
or we can choose the healthier aesthetic physiques that people actually admire and the sport will generate more money
it takes a complete retard to not understand this ::)
maybe you like the ugly physiques because you are a disgusting pile of shit, people tend to like whatever they can relate with hahahaha ;D
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Don't blame me for what you said, retard. You stated that the way for bodybuilding to become more popular and mainstream would be to make guys like Kevin and Shawn Mr.Olympia and not Dorian. You are so stupid that you even agreed with me that making Levrone Mr.Olympia would not make bodybuilding any more popular because the general public would still consider him too big, and yet this retard continues to argue with me for the simple reason that he wants to take some of Levrone's milk up his ass. ;D ;) Since making "smaller" guys, like Levrone and Shawn, Mr.Olympia won't make the sport more popular anyway, then why care? Dorian Yates had more thickly developed muscles and superior hardness than Levrone, and his muscle/skeletal symmetry is superior. So we can go in two ways. We try to make bodybuilding more popular by giving what the general public wants to see, in which case neither Dorian or Levrone are Mr.Olympia, or we continue to apply the traditional criteria, in which case Dorian wins. In either case, Kevin loses. ;) Since choosing the "smaller" bodybuilders like Levrone and Ray won't make the sport more popular anyway with the mainstream public, then I see no reason why we should dismiss freaky size and development as the ultimate goal of bodybuilding and make Shawn or Levrone Mr.Olympia in place of Dorian. Once again you fail, retard. ;)
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Don't blame me for what you said, retard. You stated that the way for bodybuilding to become more popular and mainstream would be to make guys like Kevin and Shawn Mr.Olympia and not Dorian. You are so stupid that you even agreed with me that making Levrone Mr.Olympia would not make bodybuilding any more popular because the general public would still consider him too big, and yet this retard continues to argue with me for the simple reason that he wants to take some of Levrone's milk up his ass. ;D ;) Since making "smaller" guys, like Levrone and Shawn, Mr.Olympia won't make the sport more popular anyway, then why care? Dorian Yates had more thickly developed muscles and superior hardness than Levrone, and his muscle/skeletal symmetry is superior. So we can go in two ways. We try to make bodybuilding more popular by giving what the general public wants to see, in which case neither Dorian or Levrone are Mr.Olympia, or we continue to apply the traditional criteria, in which case Dorian wins. In either case, Kevin loses. ;) Since choosing the "smaller" bodybuilders like Levrone and Ray won't make the sport more popular anyway with the mainstream public, then I see no reason why we should dismiss freaky size and development as the ultimate goal of bodybuilding and make Shawn or Levrone Mr.Olympia in place of Dorian. Once again you fail, retard. ;)
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oh brother reading is not your strong point is it sucky ::) where did i say that Mr. Levrone would not have made bodybuilding more popular? yeah most of the general public think he was too big but they thought the same of lee haney, yet bodybuilding had more fans in the 80's then now
Mr. Levrone was more marketable than dorian, DORIAN WAS NOT MARKETABLE AT ALL he was only marketable to distorted ugly mutants like yourself
dorian started the trend of big bloated ugly physiques and because of that bodybuilding has lost many fans, if you didn't have a reading problem you would've noticed that many around here say they hate the physiques of today but were fans of the 70's and 80's physiques, the sport will not grow as long as the judging criteria rewards dorianesque waistlines :)
oh and do you still want to fight me? funny how you keep dodging the question, maybe it was the alcohol talking ;D
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