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I'm assuming Tyson is natural since they do get drug tested. Keep in mind he was not training to even be a bodybuilder yet is still more muscular than most people can get.
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I'm assuming Tyson is natural since they do get drug tested. Keep in mind he was not training to even be a bodybuilder yet is still more muscular than most people can get.
hahahahahah :D
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Tyson wasn't natural...
That's what his "friends" say at least.
Either way, he still hit like a Mack truck.
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he hit cormier on the head.
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In an old interview after one of his fights which was shortly after a motorcycle accident (the one where he described his injury as "uhhh....spinal" ;D) the interviewer asked him if he took any painkillers, and he goes, "I can't take anything because they're going to test me."
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Did he hire Chad for just a diet program?
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Tyson was on deca and test in his 20s, or so the story goes. He was already an amped up a5shole, but putting test into him is what had him punching holes in walls in dressing rooms for 2 hours before he'd enter te rink and decapitate a guy in 40 seconds.
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Not many. All the people with inferior genetics will like to say he juiced. Reality is he was just a strong human being. People always look to tear down those genetically better than them by using the 'drugs' method of argument. Sad really.
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he had a fight with chris cormier in a nightclub.
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he had a fight with chris cormier in a nightclub.
and said he was scared shit less
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Tyson was on deca and test in his 20s, or so the story goes. He was already an amped up a5shole, but putting test into him is what had him punching holes in walls in dressing rooms for 2 hours before he'd enter te rink and decapitate a guy in 40 seconds.
That's a pic from his later years - notice the tattoo - well after his 20's, and still looks about 220-230 lean.
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he had a fight with chris cormier in a nightclub.
Nightclub? This is Mike and Cormier in the ring
(http://www.boxing-memorabilia.com/images/tyson_holyfield.jpg)
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and said he was scared shit less
Cormier was scared, right?
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Some blacks can
But I'd say the percentage of people in the general population who can achieve that kinda physique = less than 5%
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Some blacks can
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More nonsense.
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Cormier was scared, right?
Actually, in a bar fight, and if Chris could keep from having holes punched in him, a guy as strong as Cormier would stand a chance.
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chris was a wrestler in high school..
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"I have to take 3 dbol a day b/c I compete against the best BBers in the world"
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They didn't "fight" exactly. ::)
Chris was bouncing in a night club when Tyson slaped him behind the neck, then he (Tyson) stood in "fight position" and was yelling "c'mon muthafucka" and stuff like that. Cormier did nothing about it.
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They didn't "fight" exactly. ::)
Chris was bouncing in a night club when Tyson slaped him behind the neck, then he (Tyson) stood in "fight position" and was yelling "c'mon muthafucka" and stuff like that. Cormier did nothing about it.
Yeah, that's the story. Apparently Mike was joking around. I don't blame Chris for not wanting to get into it with Tyson, obviously. But if it did come to full engagement, and Cormier didn't lose his head with the reputation that comes with Mike, I believe he could have at least neutralized much of what Tyson could dish. Again, as long as he could avoid direct-to-the-head shots. Chris is a strong dude. Coupled with aggression and an ability to remain relatively calm, the fight wouldn't have been a given.
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After watching a documentary about Tyson, I was surprised to see he's really fairly intelligent. Uneducated, obviously, but sharp as a tack and seemingly kind-hearted to many people.
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Are you guys all fucked ??!?! Cormier would stand a chance with Tyson circa 94 (around the time this happened) ROFL... because...wait for it, he was a high school wrestler, and because he's strong...!?!? Bwahahahahaha....
OMFG...
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Given the chance, I'd knock Tyson flat on his ass.
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One punch from Tyson would of knocked Chris unconcious. Hit him in the right spot and he might of been killed.
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One punch from Tyson would of knocked Chris unconcious. Hit him in the right spot and he might of been killed.
esp. bare knuckle, without the protection of 16oz. gloves
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One punch from Tyson would of knocked Chris unconcious. Hit him in the right spot and he might of been killed.
But Boxers are useless if you use a lot of kick like K1 or ground skill like Vale todo.
Cormier has stronger power and did wrestling. I dont know who could win if they fought seriously.
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After watching a documentary about Tyson, I was surprised to see he's really fairly intelligent. Uneducated, obviously, but sharp as a tack and seemingly kind-hearted to many people.
He wouldn't have blown 400 million if he were "fairly intelligent"
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He wouldn't have blown 400 million if he were "fairly intelligent"
Hahahahaa Exactly.
But the defenition of inteligence is very wide.
For ex, The famous economic doctor Carl Markus was always ruining his money because of changing all funitures in every ti me he move to another house.
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But Boxers are useless if you use a lot of kick like K1 or ground skill like Vale todo.
Cormier has stronger power and did wrestling. I dont know who could win if they fought seriously.
You need to go jump off a bridge, help cleanse the gene pool a little..
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Yeah, that's the story. Apparently Mike was joking around. I don't blame Chris for not wanting to get into it with Tyson, obviously. But if it did come to full engagement, and Cormier didn't lose his head with the reputation that comes with Mike, I believe he could have at least neutralized much of what Tyson could dish. Again, as long as he could avoid direct-to-the-head shots. Chris is a strong dude. Coupled with aggression and an ability to remain relatively calm, the fight wouldn't have been a given.
LMAO! oh brother ::)
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He wouldn't have blown 400 million if he were "fairly intelligent"
After watching a documentary about Tyson, I was surprised to see he's really fairly intelligent. Uneducated, obviously, but sharp as a tack and seemingly kind-hearted to many people.
In other words, Tyson can't help it that you're such a cold fruit, Camel Jockey. He follows his heart with some people, and it cost him a shitload of money.
Besides being quite sharp witted, his emotional intelligence in fact seems to be very strong.
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i once heard tyson used to take a handful of some oraql befor ehis fights to amp him up... i dont remember what they said it was... but now thinking about it i know halo is supposed to give you tons of strength and aggression; so maybe that waas it..... but thats just pure speculation..
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i once heard tyson used to take a handful of some oraql befor ehis fights to amp him up... i dont remember what they said it was... but now thinking about it i know halo is supposed to give you tons of strength and aggression; so maybe that waas it..... but thats just pure speculation..
They pumped him full of Halo and Cheque Drops...
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They pumped him full of Halo and Cheque Drops...
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And bingo was his name'o
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TBH in that pic he has a better chest than me, mine is pure shit.
I have better everything else...except punch, bank balance and legendary boxing status lol
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I stand by my posts. Tyson was (still is, relatively-speaking) a brutal pugilist, but if confronted with a massively strong, huge and aggressive challanger in what would essentially be a street fight, I don't believe the outcome would be all-too obvious.
This is with the understanding that the opponent could, again, avoid direct blasts to his melon. Keep away from those damn hands, man. With distance or no distance (no hand proximity), there'd be a fight happening.
Clash of the titans.
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against a world class light flyweight maybe against a hugeman 64, 275lb e.g, trained to an extent amateur stands a change, a small chance providing he is not hit, even once. If he is its all over. Ig he gets him to ground then the big guy will alwyas have advantage
I am friendly with many boxers and particularly the light ones their speed and strength is phenomenal
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This a a flyweight the shitty quality of the camera phone does not show the speed or power. this is him cruising not going full whack. Both men in this vid were irish champions at light flyweight/flyweight. The one holding the pads was also the 2006 UK BFL champion
Let me assure you when these men hit they hurt. their speed is unreal
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Actually, in a bar fight, and if Chris could keep from having holes punched in him, a guy as strong as Cormier would stand a chance.
actually, you're a retard.
next time before spouting off, instead of watching UFC in your tapout gear, wondering what it would be like to get in a fight to begin with, try it out before posting this kind of stupidity.
in that kind of environment, cormier would be at an even greater disadvantage.
hope this helps, dana white.
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They pumped him full of Halo and Cheque Drops...
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No they didn't.
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TBH in that pic he has a better chest than me, mine is pure shit.
I have better everything else...except punch, bank balance and legendary boxing status lol
I think you've already lost credibility on such claims when you said you could get "pretty darn close" to the size of a larger IFBB pro naturally.
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esp. bare knuckle, without the protection of 16oz. gloves
Contrary to what you might think the gloves make it worse. That's an extra 1lb of force over a greater surface area you're getting hit with.
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I think you've already lost credibility on such claims when you said you could get "pretty darn close" to the size of a larger IFBB pro naturally.
In retrospect he didnt look pro size in the pic. Looked huge tho attainable. Im also very tall with large structure.
BIG DUB..pressure is force over are i think...less area same force = more pressure = more damage done
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They pumped him full of Halo and Cheque Drops...
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and methyltrienolone maybe, thats why he was "natural" on tests. methyltrienolone cant be detected by normal tests.
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Contrary to what you might think the gloves make it worse. That's an extra 1lb of force over a greater surface area you're getting hit with.
Nope, gloves are all padding softens the blow and spreads it over a greater surface area thereby decreasing PSI force.
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actually, you're a retard.
next time before spouting off, instead of watching UFC in your tapout gear, wondering what it would be like to get in a fight to begin with, try it out before posting this kind of stupidity.
in that kind of environment, cormier would be at an even greater disadvantage.
hope this helps, dana white.
So you call me a retard? Class guy. Listen, I have been in street fights, worked as a bouncer for several years, taken formal fight training (varying disciplines), and still hold to my opinion. Doesn't warrant being called a retard. I know this is the norm around here: insulting anyone who dares utter a word.
I am no big fan of the UFC or "mixed martial arts" and do not own a Tapout shirt. But if I wanted to, I would. My opinion does not negate the impressiveness of a boxer and his skills. I merely believe extraordinary strength, power, size, and aggressiveness can do much to protect someone and inflict severe damage to another wishing to cause harm.
But as a person who has been in a fight or two, I can also state that, street fighting is very dangerous, and luck plays into success in a big way. A lucky punch or twist of the ankle can change outcome in the blink of an eye.
This is my opinion. I respect yours. Please do not call me a retard again.
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Glen Ross probly has the boxing skill of an ironing board yet survived getting beaten with baseball bats to near death by 8 loyalist paramilitary scumbags.
His immense size saved him from the damage.
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;D ;D
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No they didn't.
Ask Mike.
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In retrospect he didnt look pro size in the pic. Looked huge tho attainable. Im also very tall with large structure.
BIG DUB..pressure is force over are i think...less area same force = more pressure = more damage done
Actually I thought he was pro-size right away, and so did many others. I replied that he looked about the size of Ronnie Coleman during his pre-Olympia years. I did see your arm pic and it looked very good TBH, but not Tysonesque :) Keep in mind the pic I posted is not an arm pose. If you were to stand with your torso facing the camera and arms dangling your arms would look as massive as in the shot you posted.
Please do not call me a retard again.
Wrong forum for that tone :)
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Actually I thought he was pro-size right away, and so did many others. I replied that he looked about the size of Ronnie Coleman during his pre-Olympia years. I did see your arm pic and it looked very good TBH, but not Tysonesque :) Keep in mind the pic I posted is not an arm pose. If you were to stand with your torso facing the camera and arms dangling your arms would look as massive as in the shot you posted.
Wrong forum for that tone :)
He reminded me the size of a big shot but lean shot putter etc. i was wrong and ill hold my hands up. In his comp pics he looks much bigger.
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So you call me a retard? Class guy. Listen, I have been in street fights, worked as a bouncer for several years, taken formal fight training (varying disciplines), and still hold to my opinion. Doesn't warrant being called a retard. I know this is the norm around here: insulting anyone who dares utter a word.
I am no big fan of the UFC or "mixed martial arts" and do not own a Tapout shirt. But if I wanted to, I would. My opinion does not negate the impressiveness of a boxer and his skills. I merely believe extraordinary strength, power, size, and aggressiveness can do much to protect someone and inflict severe damage to another wishing to cause harm.
But as a person who has been in a fight or two, I can also state that, street fighting is very dangerous, and luck plays into success in a big way. A lucky punch or twist of the ankle can change outcome in the blink of an eye.
This is my opinion. I respect yours. Please do not call me a retard again.
lol.
that was way too easy.
anyway hun, you said bar fight, not street fight. if you were as keen as you say you are, you would know that these are two totally different worlds.
had you indeed worked in as many clubs as you claimed and had been in as many altercations in that environment, you would know that a bar fight is ALWAYS close contact, and that the first shot landed is in most cases the beginning of the end. and this instance, even a glancing blow from tyson would spell disaster for anyone, regardless of how heavily muscled that person may be.
next time, take a little more care when wording your posts and you won't be made a fool in the future.
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....Nasser can't.
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....Nasser can't.
lol, where have you been? :D I took a bit of a break myself.
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lol.
that was way too easy.
anyway hun, you said bar fight, not street fight. if you were as keen as you say you are, you would know that these are two totally different worlds.
had you indeed worked in as many clubs as you claimed and had been in as many altercations in that environment, you would know that a bar fight is ALWAYS close contact, and that the first shot landed is in most cases the beginning of the end. and this instance, even a glancing blow from tyson would spell disaster for anyone, regardless of how heavily muscled that person may be.
next time, take a little more care when wording your posts and you won't be made a fool in the future.
Yes, it was easy. Uh, what was easy, exactly? Regardless, you've grown too pompous by "winning" all your altercations ... on Web sites. Big man. Oh, and still with the insults, eh? "Hun"? "Made a fool"? Look in a mirror. There's your fool.
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lol, where have you been? :D I took a bit of a break myself.
Yes I noticed you disppeared with El Mariachi. Did you both enjoy your honeymoon?
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Yes, it was easy. Uh, what was easy, exactly? Regardless, you've grown too pompous by "winning" all your altercations ... on Web sites. Big man. Oh, and still with the insults, eh? "Hun"? "Made a fool"? Look in a mirror. There's your fool.
lol.
calm down, nancy. calm down- i'm sure your keyboard is taking the brunt of your frustration right now and you sound like your blood pressure is at near fatal levels.
just because you got caught talking about something it's obvious you know nothing about, don't take it out on the one who points it out.
address your inadequacies and you'll be able to take criticism much better in the future, sweetheart.
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If a full venom , ungloved, Tyson punch connected with Cormier's head, then he would be knocked the fuck out. He might even die. The guy can barely move..where's that Gladiators audition tape with CC struggling to even jog?
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are you dickbreath's seriously discussing the possibility of chris cormier winning a fight against mike fucking tyson?
I mean seriously.
Mike Tyson is fucking CRAZY. He will knock motherfuckers out just to get an erection.
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are you guys saying mike tyson can beat up chris cormier? that's crazy.. chris is the real deal..
405 for reps on the incline..
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are you guys saying mike tyson can beat up chris cormier? that's crazy.. chris is the real deal..
405 for reps on the incline..
lol
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Have you heard Cormier talk? Sounds like a fag.
Iron Mike was is a killer
(http://www.onlinesports.com/images/ssg-umt-16e.jpg)
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tyson did some weights work as part of his training regime but never took anabolics- the testing by the boxing authorities is too rigourous and frequent for Tyson to ahve done any cycles
his physique and low body fat is a result of boxing training
Holyfield may have used steroids to bulk up from cruiiserweight to heavyweight- he did train with lee haney, and during holyfields bulkup over 1 year he somehow lost his hair :P
the story goes Tyson came up to cormier- who was bouncing @ the nite club, slapped him hard on the back of the neck, and said "hes a big boy, he can take it".
cormier wouldve been knocked out cold b4 he could get his hands up to try to protect himself
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tyson did some weights work as part of his training regime but never took anabolics- the testing by the boxing authorities is too rigourous and frequent for Tyson to ahve done any cycles
his physique and low body fat is a result of boxing training
Holyfield may have used steroids to bulk up from cruiiserweight to heavyweight- he did train with lee haney, and during holyfields bulkup over 1 year he somehow lost his hair :P
the story goes Tyson came up to cormier- who was bouncing @ the nite club, slapped him hard on the back of the neck, and said "hes a big boy, he can take it".
cormier wouldve been knocked out cold b4 he could get his hands up to try to protect himself
The funny thing is I've read and heard Cormier talk about this incident like he would have taken Tyson on and whopped his ass... he even said that in his old column in MD once..ROFL, talk about delusions.
He would've been in a coma along with the rest of the security team, Tyson circa early 90's was a MONSTER.
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;D ;D
bumpity bump :o
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he had a fight with chris cormier in a nightclub.
Your avatar is from a great movie, have you seen it?
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PED.
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bare-knuckled, Tyson would have demolished Cormier in about 2 seconds. Cormier would have hurt his hand, had he connected with Tyson's head. And Tyson, seeing a BIG untrained target without his guard up would deliver probably one punch and knock cormier out and likely have him hospitalized. No doubt at all.
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bare-knuckled, Tyson would have demolished Cormier in about 2 seconds. Cormier would have hurt his hand, had he connected with Tyson's head. And Tyson, seeing a BIG untrained target without his guard up would deliver probably one punch and knock cormier out and likely have him hospitalized. No doubt at all.
Oh but don't forget 240... Cormier wrestled in high school....and he's strong! ::) ::)
I think it's too close to call...a juiced up , big slow cumbersome bouncer vs. killing machine in his prime.
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Why does everyone keep talking about Tyson in his prime? Why not talk about what he has become? What would he do now?
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Tyson Vs. Cormier = Cormier KTFO in first 5 seconds. Some people have their heads far up their asses!
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Have you heard Cormier talk? Sounds like a fag.
(http://www.onlinesports.com/images/ssg-umt-16e.jpg)
just like mike tyson then.
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Tyson Vs. Cormier = Cormier KTFO in first 5 seconds. Some people have their heads far up their asses!
Settle down 'elite_lifter' ::)
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I'm assuming Tyson is natural since they do get drug tested. Keep in mind he was not training to even be a bodybuilder yet is still more muscular than most people can get.
As natural as this..
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Fat_bastard.jpeg)
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This a a flyweight the shitty quality of the camera phone does not show the speed or power. this is him cruising not going full whack. Both men in this vid were irish champions at light flyweight/flyweight. The one holding the pads was also the 2006 UK BFL champion
Let me assure you when these men hit they hurt. their speed is unreal
Very true. Boxers possess ferocious striking power (baseball bat) when compared with a average joe (wiffle bat) who doesnt know how to throw a punch. There's a old saying in boxing - "One hit to quit 'em". A boxer spends hours/days/years honing his punching skills + speed. I doubt Cormier's size would have saved him from Tyson (especially in his prime). All it takes is a couple of shots to end it. I wouldn't say Tyson would win 100% because anything can happen in a streetfight but Cormier would have a very very slim chance of coming out victorious. Wrestling skills or not going up against a pro boxer known for his knockout artistry is asking for trouble and a quick visit to the trauma center. :D
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I know black guys very well...and trust me, they believe in the Alpha system and pride. After Chris got bitch slapped on the back of his neck and turned around to see Tyson he pissed on his leg and did what everyone of us would have done and backed right on down. If he thought for a New York millisecond he could do something in front of all those people he would've. I was a bouncer for years and trust me, if your a juiced up bodybuilder/wanna be fighter your gonna take a shot on anyone if you think you can. He pussed out cause he bitched out! Don't fucking kid yourself Cormier nuthuggers...Tyson is a proven world class boxer washed up now or not with more power than just about anyone...Cormier is some juiced to the gills bodybuilder washed up or not who can't even scratch his ass crack he's so big, but he still isn't a proven world class fighter....not even remotely comparable!