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1. which is the best place to live in the us?
2. how come youre not living there? ;)
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1. which is the best place to live in the us?
2. how come youre not living there? ;)
1. Probably New York
2. Because U.S. sucks
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1. which is the best place to live in the us?
"Best" based on what? There are any number of factors that contribute to the desirability of a place to live, and some cities rank higher on some things, some cities rank higher on others. It really depends on which of those factors are most important to you.
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"Best" based on what? There are any number of factors that contribute to the desirability of a place to live, and some cities rank higher on some things, some cities rank higher on others. It really depends on which of those factors are most important to you.
whatever you consider best
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The town I grew up in (my parents and sisters still live there), North Haven, CT, was recently voted amoung the "Top 50 places to live in US" by US News & World Report, I believe
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I'd like to move to AZ or Texas when I have the money. Chicago sucks.
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1. Probably New York
2. Because U.S. sucks
So you've seen it all? ::)
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Is cost a factor?
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1. which is the best place to live in the us?
2. how come youre not living there? ;)
Why haven't you jumped the fence from Mexico yet?
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I'd like to move to AZ or Texas when I have the money. Chicago sucks.
I went to college in Chicago...time of my life....you really think it sucks there...why?
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You will miss Chicago when you're gone.
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You will miss Chicago when you're gone.
I cried when I left. Got in a bad car accident when I was driving back home....if I didn't have 3 years of rehab, my originalk plan was to stay there.
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I'll miss the food but not the cold weather or corrupt politics (assuming the place I move to is better).
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I'll miss the food but not the cold weather or corrupt politics (assuming the place I move to is better).
Is John Dayley still mayor (don't know If I spelled his name correctly...)....he was when I graduated 18 years ago....and I think he took over when his father retired as mayor after serving many, many years.
Maybe corrupt, but it seems the people love him and keep electing him....
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Richard Daley and yes he's still here. Now he's trying to fight to keep the Chicago handgun ban in effect. ::)
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Richard Daley and yes he's still here. Now he's trying to fight to keep the Chicago handgun ban in effect. ::)
Knew I was off on the name.
Wow, that is like a lifetime job for him (and his family!)
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Yes, ruining the city. Like father, like son. ;D
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Well I may be bias but I have lived in some really nice places and grew up in a really nice area. Have always lived near the ocean till now I am in Vegas. But I still love Hawaii. The weather is perfect, the people are perfect, the food is awesome, the scenery is to die for. People save their whole lives to go to Hawaii for a week just so they can experience "heaven" while they are still alive. It will be where I end up when I am all done with everything. You just can't beat Hawaii
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the best way to look at the best place to live is look at the people.
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Well I may be bias but I have lived in some really nice places and grew up in a really nice area. Have always lived near the ocean till now I am in Vegas. But I still love Hawaii. The weather is perfect, the people are perfect, the food is awesome, the scenery is to die for. People save their whole lives to go to Hawaii for a week just so they can experience "heaven" while they are still alive. It will be where I end up when I am all done with everything. You just can't beat Hawaii
The problem with Hawaii is it's so isolated. Nothing important in the world really happens there, and you can't go anywhere without it being a major trip in terms of time and expense.
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new york city, boston, san francisco, southern california, miami, seattle.. in that order..
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new york city, boston, san francisco, southern california, miami, seattle.. in that order..
I wouldn't want to live in NYC, Boston, or Seattle. :-X
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I wouldn't want to live in NYC, Boston, or Seattle. :-X
nyc is my favorite !!!!!! but maybe cuz ive only been there one time and for one day.. so idk... but boston is sick bro. you ever been there? seattle has the best people and street life and city atmosphere i think..although the weathers shitty..but when its clear outside you can see mount ranier big time, the puget sound is beautiful to, the space needle... the olympic mountain range.. very cool city that seattle is!
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I'm from Chicago and it definitely does not suck.
Mayor Daly still is in office and his corruption keeps the city moving. Chicago is the cleanest big city in the US because of him.
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BRITANNIA!!
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nyc is my favorite !!!!!! but maybe cuz ive only been there one time and for one day.. so idk... but boston is sick bro. you ever been there? seattle has the best people and street life and city atmosphere i think..although the weathers shitty..but when its clear outside you can see mount ranier big time, the puget sound is beautiful to, the space needle... the olympic mountain range.. very cool city that seattle is!
I spend a lot of time in New York. I've been to both Boston and Seattle, although not enough that I would consider myself an "expert". I wouldn't want to live in NYC because I just couldn't get used to the whole "urban jungle" massive population density feel. It's almost like you're just a single cow in a massive herd of cattle when you're in Manhattan. It's fun for short periods, but after several days you get tired of it and just wanna go home, and you know that "home" could never be a place like that. Don't get me wrong, I like cities... I lived in the Georgetown section of Washington, DC for many years, and I live in Houston now, but Manhattan has a "rat race" feel like no other city that I just don't like.
Seattle is just too dreary with too much overcast and rain... I'd be depressed all the time. Boston is just too "northeast/blue collar/old-world attitude" that I don't like, plus I'm not a fan of cold and snow.
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I spend a lot of time in New York. I've been to both Boston and Seattle, although not enough that I would consider myself an "expert". I wouldn't want to live in NYC because I just couldn't get used to the whole "urban jungle" massive population density feel. It's almost like you're just a single cow in a massive herd of cattle when you're in Manhattan. It's fun for short periods, but after several days you get tired of it and just wanna go home, and you know that "home" could never be a place like that. Don't get me wrong, I like cities... I lived in the Georgetown section of Washington, DC for many years, and I live in Houston now, but Manhattan has a "rat race" feel like no other city that I just don't like.
Seattle is just to dreary with too much overcast and rain... I'd be depressed all the time. Boston is just too "northeast/blue collar/old-world attitude" that I don't like, plus I'm not a fan of cold and snow.
thats what i love about NY. i have my window open now. i hear cars honking people yelling, all that shit. so even though im sittinghere doing nothing, theres still so much going on around me. the energy here is amazing, always in a hurry, always stuff to do. and just think of all that ''urban jungle'' vagina walking around EVERYWHERE. no wonder why nobody gets married before there 35 around here.
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1. which is the best place to live in the us?
2. how come youre not living there? ;)
CANADA
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I spend a lot of time in New York. I've been to both Boston and Seattle, although not enough that I would consider myself an "expert". I wouldn't want to live in NYC because I just couldn't get used to the whole "urban jungle" massive population density feel. It's almost like you're just a single cow in a massive herd of cattle when you're in Manhattan. It's fun for short periods, but after several days you get tired of it and just wanna go home, and you know that "home" could never be a place like that. Don't get me wrong, I like cities... I lived in the Georgetown section of Washington, DC for many years, and I live in Houston now, but Manhattan has a "rat race" feel like no other city that I just don't like.
Seattle is just to dreary with too much overcast and rain... I'd be depressed all the time. Boston is just too "northeast/blue collar/old-world attitude" that I don't like, plus I'm not a fan of cold and snow.
#1 suicide rate among doctors of all kinds:
Dentists in Seattle.
Everyone hates the dentist, and Seattle is always dreary and depressing.
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Well I may be bias but I have lived in some really nice places and grew up in a really nice area. Have always lived near the ocean till now I am in Vegas. But I still love Hawaii. The weather is perfect, the people are perfect, the food is awesome, the scenery is to die for. People save their whole lives to go to Hawaii for a week just so they can experience "heaven" while they are still alive. It will be where I end up when I am all done with everything. You just can't beat Hawaii
Beautiful place would love to live there for a period of time eventually, just so expensive
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I spend a lot of time in New York. I've been to both Boston and Seattle, although not enough that I would consider myself an "expert". I wouldn't want to live in NYC because I just couldn't get used to the whole "urban jungle" massive population density feel. It's almost like you're just a single cow in a massive herd of cattle when you're in Manhattan. It's fun for short periods, but after several days you get tired of it and just wanna go home, and you know that "home" could never be a place like that. Don't get me wrong, I like cities... I lived in the Georgetown section of Washington, DC for many years, and I live in Houston now, but Manhattan has a "rat race" feel like no other city that I just don't like.
Seattle is just too dreary with too much overcast and rain... I'd be depressed all the time. Boston is just too "northeast/blue collar/old-world attitude" that I don't like, plus I'm not a fan of cold and snow.
i love boston.
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san diego for the weather, beaches, and women
every other city in the US is missing at least one of those 3
way too humid in texas and florida
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san diego for the weather, beaches, and women
every other city in the US is missing at least one of those 3
way too humid in texas and florida
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north carolina is nice.
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san diego for the weather, beaches, and women
every other city in the US is missing at least one of those 3
Los Angeles? ::)
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montana!!!!!!!! 8)
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The problem with Hawaii is it's so isolated. Nothing important in the world really happens there, and you can't go anywhere without it being a major trip in terms of time and expense.
It is isolated which sometimes is good. And the for importance the Pacifc FLeet Headquarters is in Hawaii which makes it about as important as you can get in regards to military defense. Plus most of the money generated their from tourism is from the Japanese so we are bringing in quite a bit of foreign money. Plus they do have a World Trade Center there now too I think. Plus we consume more SPAM than anywhere else so we are helping get rid of all the shitty meat no one else wants. Not to mention the pot that is grown there is supposed to be really good, so we help keep the rest of the world happy.
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Los Angeles? ::)
too much traffic and air pollution compared to san diego
also far more annoying celebrity wannabes
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It is isolated which sometimes is good. And the for importance the Pacifc FLeet Headquarters is in Hawaii which makes it about as important as you can get in regards to military defense. Plus most of the money generated their from tourism is from the Japanese so we are bringing in quite a bit of foreign money. Plus they do have a World Trade Center there now too I think. Plus we consume more SPAM than anywhere else so we are helping get rid of all the shitty meat no one else wants. Not to mention the pot that is grown there is supposed to be really good, so we help keep the rest of the world happy.
paraguayan pot is also thought as very good :P
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It is isolated which sometimes is good. And the for importance the Pacifc FLeet Headquarters is in Hawaii which makes it about as important as you can get in regards to military defense. Plus most of the money generated their from tourism is from the Japanese so we are bringing in quite a bit of foreign money. Plus they do have a World Trade Center there now too I think. Plus we consume more SPAM than anywhere else so we are helping get rid of all the shitty meat no one else wants. Not to mention the pot that is grown there is supposed to be really good, so we help keep the rest of the world happy.
I'm sure it's a nice place to spend some time, I just don't think I would want to live there permanently. What's really odd is I've never been there. I've been to a lot of places in the world most people would never get to in a lifetime, but a more "standard" place like Hawaii for some reason has never made it onto the destination list. :-\ I'd like to check it out sometime soon.
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too much traffic and air pollution compared to san diego
also far more annoying celebrity wannabes
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True, but it does have all three elements you mentioned.
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It is isolated which sometimes is good. And the for importance the Pacifc FLeet Headquarters is in Hawaii which makes it about as important as you can get in regards to military defense. Plus most of the money generated their from tourism is from the Japanese so we are bringing in quite a bit of foreign money. Plus they do have a World Trade Center there now too I think. Plus we consume more SPAM than anywhere else so we are helping get rid of all the shitty meat no one else wants. Not to mention the pot that is grown there is supposed to be really good, so we help keep the rest of the world happy.
yes when i went there everything had spam in it. what the fuck is that all about?
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paraguayan pot is also thought as very good :P
come visit me ill bring you to OAKLAND and then youll know what pot is like :D
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UES, NYC
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1.New York City
2.Too Expensive
Boston is not too shabby either...
Living in Europe is much cooler than the US though....so...it's kind of a moot point...
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Living in Europe is much cooler than the US though....so...it's kind of a moot point...
In what way?
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Tijuana bitches
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In what way?
Lifestyle is better; more relaxed, less rushed; Coffee Culture; history, architecture, art, attitudes; multilingual; secular...
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Lifestyle is better; more relaxed, less rushed; Coffee Culture; history, architecture, art, attitudes; multilingual; secular...
There is such a thing as being "too relaxed". History and architecture are nice, but newer, more modern cities are nice too. Multilingual isn't necessarily a plus unless you speak every language being spoken... otherwise you miss out on half or more of what is being said. Secular is a plus, but you can have that here too, just don't hang out with religious people.
To me any of the advantages are not worth paying 70% of your income in taxes.
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i like the places in europe i have been to much better than anywhere ive been in the US, and ive been pretty much everywhere in the us.. even hawaii and alaska
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There is such a thing as being "too relaxed". History and architecture are nice, but newer, more modern cities are nice too. Multilingual isn't necessarily a plus unless you speak every language being spoken... otherwise you miss out on half or more of what is being said. Secular is a plus, but you can have that here too, just don't hang out with religious people.
To me any of the advantages are not worth paying 70% of your income in taxes.
Indeed
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1. which is the best place to live in the us?
2. how come youre not living there? ;)
In your case ..I would say Manhattan..The village is full of f@gs just like you ..So you should feel right at home..
Why am I not there ? I'm not a fucking f@ggot!
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There is such a thing as being "too relaxed". History and architecture are nice, but newer, more modern cities are nice too. Multilingual isn't necessarily a plus unless you speak every language being spoken... otherwise you miss out on half or more of what is being said. Secular is a plus, but you can have that here too, just don't hang out with religious people.
To me any of the advantages are not worth paying 70% of your income in taxes.
I don't know of a single country in Europe where anyone pays 70% of his income in taxes. Can you tell me what country that is?
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I should add that you actually get services for paying taxes in Europe whereas in the US you get Afghanistan and Iraq.
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There is such a thing as being "too relaxed". History and architecture are nice, but newer, more modern cities are nice too. Multilingual isn't necessarily a plus unless you speak every language being spoken... otherwise you miss out on half or more of what is being said. Secular is a plus, but you can have that here too, just don't hang out with religious people.
To me any of the advantages are not worth paying 70% of your income in taxes.
Good Post Goat...agree completely
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I should add that you actually get services for paying taxes in Europe whereas in the US you get Afghanistan and Iraq.
Yes
"Service"=Waiting for a routine medical appointment until fucking Methuselah comes out of the grave
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I don't know of a single country in Europe where anyone pays 70% of his income in taxes. Can you tell me what country that is?
Sure... most of them. Total taxes on income tend to be 45-55%, they there's a VAT tax on everything you buy in the 20-25% range.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_of_Europe
(oh, and that doesn't include real estate taxes). ::)
You're surely not trying to claim taxes in Europe aren't significantly higher than they are in America, are you? ::)
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I should add that you actually get services for paying taxes in Europe whereas in the US you get Afghanistan and Iraq.
The only "services" you get is health care. Big deal. Every educated person in America with a good job has that too. And we don't have to wait in line forever to get medical treatment, either.
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The only "services" you get is health care. Big deal. Every educated person in America with a good job has that too. And we don't have to wait in line forever to get medical treatment, either.
YES!!!!!
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Yes
"Service"=Waiting for a routine medical appointment until fucking Methuselah comes out of the grave
Healthcare is Europe is generally better than that of the US unless you are very wealthy.
For being the best country in the world, the US is only #11 is terms of health; Scandinavia wins hands down...
http://www.forbes.com/health/2008/04/07/health-world-countries-forbeslife-cx_avd_0408health.html
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The only "services" you get is health care. Big deal. Every educated person in America with a good job has that too. And we don't have to wait in line forever to get medical treatment, either.
You convinced me; the US is the best country in the world; the USD is awesome! The levels are safety are awesome as well! Little crime, the best health care and unending wars...go USA!
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Beautiful Detroit, Michigan.
(http://www.hogvalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/detroit.jpg)
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You convinced me; the US is the best country in the world; the USD is awesome! The levels are safety are awesome as well! Little crime, the best health care and unending wars...go USA!
You're reading things into my post I didn't say.
I simply said that in my opinion, the significantly higher levels of taxation do not provide a fair value return, or anything close to it. If you feel otherwise, feel free to live in Europe. People can have different opinions without getting all hostile about it.
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I went to college in Chicago...time of my life....you really think it sucks there...why?
Where did you go? I am in college in Chicago now...Chicago is great.
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People can have different opinions without getting all hostile about it.
Yeah............I'm calling bullshit on this one asshole. >:(
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People can have different opinions without getting all hostile about it.
Jeesus G o t h b o y, save the primadonna act ::)
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You're reading things into my post I didn't say.
I simply said that in my opinion, the significantly higher levels of taxation do not provide a fair value return, or anything close to it. If you feel otherwise, feel free to live in Europe. People can have different opinions without getting all hostile about it.
That was my point all along. I appreciate the multilingualism (as a student of language), the history, the architecture, the levels of safety, etc...it is all subjective. However here are some factoids (notice very few US cities rank up there):
http://www.mercer.com/pressrelease/details...07990#Top50_qol
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I think Seattle sucks. I live in Portland and it's way better. Everyone that visits from Seattle agrees. The downtown nightlife is centrally located and not all spread out into a bunch of districts. Ski mountains are closer and better. Cost of living is lower. The clubs aren't overrun by confrontational Asian guys that want to fight. I'm not saying Portland is the best place to live but it's helluva lot better than Seattle!
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The Lovely...St. Louis, Missouri
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Denver, Albuquerque, San Antonio, Phoenix, in that order 8)
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I spend a lot of time in New York. I've been to both Boston and Seattle, although not enough that I would consider myself an "expert". I wouldn't want to live in NYC because I just couldn't get used to the whole "urban jungle" massive population density feel. It's almost like you're just a single cow in a massive herd of cattle when you're in Manhattan. It's fun for short periods, but after several days you get tired of it and just wanna go home, and you know that "home" could never be a place like that. Don't get me wrong, I like cities... I lived in the Georgetown section of Washington, DC for many years, and I live in Houston now, but Manhattan has a "rat race" feel like no other city that I just don't like.
Seattle is just too dreary with too much overcast and rain... I'd be depressed all the time. Boston is just too "northeast/blue collar/old-world attitude" that I don't like, plus I'm not a fan of cold and snow.
Boston is extremely expensive, and there is a lot of "old money" in the city. I'm not sure if you spent time in the Newbury, Cambridge or Back bay areas, but old world attitude is one of the last things I think Boston projects. Architecture wise, yes... but I don't think its inhabitants are "old world". Actually, Boston was just voted the most tech savvy city in America (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/techinvestor/industry/2008-06-19-milken-tech-report_N.htm), and with over 70 colleges within or surrounding the city, it is a very liberal, and forward thinking city these days. Can't disagree with you on the snow - it sucks, but we have a great summer, spring and fall....plus the city is on the ocean, and the cape is less than an hour away.
I think all city's have a blue color population, and Boston is no different. However, the city is so expensive, that class is pretty scarce within the major metro areas. You see a ton of doctors, since we have so many hospitals.... A lot of young professionals, college students, and grad students. Every fall, the populaton swells by over 200,000 when all the new college students arrive. Next time you visit the city, check out Newbury street, Back Bay, Harvard square and the South end.
I think Seattle is a great city, but like you, to rainy for me.....NYC is a good time, but I agree with you, to large for my taste. I wouden't vote Boston as the best place to live in the US - ( the winters, and the cost of living are harsh), but I would rank it in the top five.
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1. which is the best place to live in the us?
2. how come youre not living there? ;)
I do live there! :D
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I do live there! :D
I thought you were in Florida?
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Healthcare is Europe is generally better than that of the US unless you are very wealthy.
That is a dubious statement
For being the best country in the world, the US is only #11 is terms of health; Scandinavia wins hands down...
We make a ton of money here...how the hell do you recruit doctors who really want to excel when they are paid a set, insubstantial salary? I want my doctor to be wealthy, have the best technology...and I don't mind waiting an hour to see him because he is so damn good
http://www.forbes.com/health/2008/04/07/health-world-countries-forbeslife-cx_avd_0408health.html
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Are you one of those guys who actually believes the misconception (perpetuated by those who twist facts) that in Canada you have to wait 3 months for a standard doctors appointment?
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Are you one of those guys who actually believes the (misconception perpetuated by those who twist facts) that in Canada you have to wait 3 months for a standard doctors appointment?
I don't believe it.
I Know it takes months upon months.
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san diego is prime real estate
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I don't believe it.
I Know it takes months upon months.
I made an appointment with my MD yesterday morning and went to see him about a lung infection later that evening. To see a specialist you have to wait a while, not a family physician however.
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I made an appointment with my MD yesterday morning and went to see him about a lung infection later that evening. To see a specialist you have to wait a while, not a family physician however.
That can be the exception.
Take care of your health, unlike most people in ALL countries, and this'll all me a moot point.
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I made an appointment with my MD yesterday morning and went to see him about a lung infection later that evening. To see a specialist you have to wait a while, not a family physician however.
Unfortunately, in an age of increasing specialization, a "family physician" is all but useless for all but the most basic or obvious ailments. It seems these days their primary purpose is to decide which specialist you need to see to properly treat your condition. In America, where it is fairly easy to get in to see a specialist, no big deal, but in the socialized medicine countries, whoaaaa.... just hope you never get sick, or you'll find out that "free" healthcare could kill you while you wait.
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Unfortunately, in an age of increasing specialization, a "family physician" is all but useless for all but the most basic or obvious ailments. It seems these days their primary purpose is to decide which specialist you need to see to properly treat your condition. In America, where it is fairly easy to get in to see a specialist, no big deal, but in the socialized medicine countries, whoaaaa.... just hope you never get sick, or you'll find out that "free" healthcare could kill you while you wait.
You are correct and something must be done about that. The problem is so many people who specialize at medical schools here in Canada leave to go to the united states or other places, chasing more monetary rewards. That is not what the Hippocratic oath is all about, but I suppose nothing can trump innate human desires. There are many private clinics now popping up here in Canada that gives those who have the means to pay up front for complex surgeries a chance to have quick care. My brother tore up his shoulder 2 years ago and would have had to wait 18 months for a simple 2 hour arthroscopic procedure. Instead he payed 6,000$ and got it in a week. There is a increasing effort to produce more doctors that are more likely to stay in canada. In fact in my medical school interview not long ago, I was actually asked indirectly if I would be committed to practice in Canada. Baby steps I guess.
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OH yea, I always have a giggle when I hear we have "free" health care. It astounds me when a citizen does not know where his/her tax dollars go.
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You are correct and something must be done about that. The problem is so many people who specialize at medical schools here in Canada leave to go to the united states or other places, chasing more monetary rewards. That is not what the Hippocratic oath is all about, but I suppose nothing can trump innate human desires. There are many private clinics now popping up here in Canada that gives those who have the means to pay up front for complex surgeries a chance to have quick care. My brother tore up his shoulder 2 years ago and would have had to wait 18 months for a simple 2 hour arthroscopic procedure. Instead he payed 6,000$ and got it in a week. There is a increasing effort to produce more doctors that are more likely to stay in canada. In fact in my medical school interview not long ago, I was actually asked indirectly if I would be committed to practice in Canada. Baby steps I guess.
After 8 years or more in school...mountains of debt (250k in school loans oftentimes), and the burden of liability practicing, it is much (not all) about the money.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is foolhardy.
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OH yea, I always have a giggle when I hear we have "free" health care. It astounds me when a citizen does not know where his/her tax dollars go.
True.
There is no free healthcare...anywhere
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I'd like to move to AZ or Texas when I have the money. Chicago sucks.
hell yeah.
bench
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After 8 years or more in school...mountains of debt (250k in school loans oftentimes), and the burden of liability practicing, it is much (not all) about the money.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is foolhardy.
Perhaps I am a foolish 20 year old whom has much to learn. I can say that many of my older friends who are in their 2nd/3rd year of study of medicine completely changed their ideologies. As undergrads they were about nothing more then having a direct positive effect on others. Now it is more about the porsche carerra GT(sweet car btw).
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My brother tore up his shoulder 2 years ago and would have had to wait 18 months for a simple 2 hour arthroscopic procedure.
That's insane. If Americans were routinely told that, there'd be rioting in the streets. And yet those who favor socialized medicine would have us think it's all peaches and cream in Canada and Europe. ::) Must be why so many rich foreigners from socialzed medicine countries come to the US for treatment, huh?
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That's insane. If Americans were routinely told that, there'd be rioting in the streets. And yet those who favor socialized medicine would have us think it's all peaches and cream in Canada and Europe. ::) Must be why so many rich foreigners from socialzed medicine countries come to the US for treatment, huh?
Exactly. If you are wealthy the US has the best health care in the world. If you are not.... :-X
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Exactly. If you are wealthy the US has the best health care in the world. If you are not.... :-X
Well, I suppose it depends how you define "wealthy". If you're a college graduate with a career, you've got health insurance, and therefore access to this system. The fact that Wal Mart workers might not have it so good certainly isn't going to entice me to move to Europe or institute socialized medicine here so that I can have the priviledge of waiting 18 months for a routine surgery instead of getting it within a week like i can now.
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6000$ isn't even that bad of a price considering the machines he uses costs a few thousand to run for the duration of the operation as well as the assistants he has. Not to mention the time he spent in school training.
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Well, I suppose it depends how you define "wealthy". If you're a college graduate with a career, you've got health insurance, and therefore access to this system. The fact that Wal Mart workers might not have it so good certainly isn't going to entice me to move to Europe or institute socialized medicine here so that I can have the priviledge of waiting 18 months for a routine surgery instead of getting it within a week like i can now.
Like I said before, for minor simple check ups or routine ailments that happen to us all, our system is excellent. For more complicated situations you are either going to pay your way or get in line. No system is perfect.
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Why haven't you jumped the fence from Mexico yet?
your "best" doesn't count, a man that lives in a place like this doesn't qualify, sorry dumpster.
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Well, I suppose it depends how you define "wealthy". If you're a college graduate with a career, you've got health insurance, and therefore access to this system. The fact that Wal Mart workers might not have it so good certainly isn't going to entice me to move to Europe or institute socialized medicine here so that I can have the priviledge of waiting 18 months for a routine surgery instead of getting it within a week like i can now.
Yes, Sweden is truly an awful place to live.
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Yes, Sweden is truly an awful place to live.
Strange, I can't see where I said anywhere in that post "Sweden is truly an awful place to live".
But now that you mention it.... cold weather sucks ass, and 18 hours of darkness in winter would be enough to drive me insane.
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Strange, I can't see where I said anywhere in that post "Sweden is truly an awful place to live".
But now that you mention it.... cold weather sucks ass, and 18 hours of darkness in winter would be enough to drive me insane.
How many years have you spent in Europe as a basis of comparison?
Moreover when the American Empire crashes along with the dollar I think it won't be pleasant. Prepare an escape route.
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Exactly. If you are wealthy the US has the best health care in the world. If you are not.... :-X
If you are not, as 50% of all hospital bills remain unpaid and are eaten by the hospital, that's because you will not get turned down if you show up at a hospital here.
Especially if you don't have insurance.
Ultimately, no one gets turned down here
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Vermont
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Let's try to stick to the topic guys.
I'm surprised none of you live in Florida? Or Vegas. Doesn't Jay Cutler live in Vegas! Can't be all that bad!
And Hawaii, aren't you entitled as an american citizen to go live there? Yet most of you live elsewhere in the US where you got bad weather etc MOST of the year what's up with that?
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Seattle is just too dreary with too much overcast and rain... I'd be depressed all the time. Boston is just too "northeast/blue collar/old-world attitude" that I don't like, plus I'm not a fan of cold and snow.
you could have just described Glasgow, Scotland. Still we have great pubs 8)
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Lifestyle is better; more relaxed, less rushed; Coffee Culture; history, architecture, art, attitudes; multilingual; secular...
where in europe do you stay? i take it its not britain ! no wonder we ruled the world - lazy euro's !!!!
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lot of seriously deluded Americans in this thread talking about European health care like 'they know all about it' when in fact not one has it accurate.
if i need to see the doctor for anything i call, make an appointment and will see him that day or the next.
if i feel its something urgent i can walk into the hospital, and will be seen within a few hours, unless its life threatening in which case you are taken immediately.
if you need something done (operation, scan, x-ray, etc)to prevent death or extreme pain, etc its done straight away.
if you can get by then yes you are placed on a waiting list. ( this would be if you are having some reoccurring problem, constant shoulder pain, digestion problems etc etc)
and we don't have to pay a single penny for any of it regardless of how rich we are.
so tell me, how exactly is the us 'health system' better?
also in europe we dont have to worry about getting shot, although we do have a knife problem in glasgow (knife stabbing capital of europe if not the world :()
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Jeesus G o t h b o y, save the primadonna act ::)
Goatboy has +16000 posts, people listen to him you know. ;D
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lot of seriously deluded Americans in this thread talking about European health care like 'they know all about it' when in fact not one has it accurate.
if i need to see the doctor for anything i call, make an appointment and will see him that day or the next.
if i feel its something urgent i can walk into the hospital, and will be seen within a few hours, unless its life threatening in which case you are taken immediately.
if you need something done (operation, scan, x-ray, etc)to prevent death or extreme pain, etc its done straight away.
if you can get by then yes you are placed on a waiting list. ( this would be if you are having some reoccurring problem, constant shoulder pain, digestion problems etc etc)
and we don't have to pay a single penny for any of it regardless of how rich we are.
so tell me, how exactly is the us 'health system' better?
also in europe we dont have to worry about getting shot, although we do have a knife problem in glasgow (knife stabbing capital of europe if not the world :()
The Glasgow smile is (in)famous... ;D
I certainly was NOT talking about the UK, though I will be moving there in autumn for at least a year.
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The Glasgow smile is (in)famous... ;D
I certainly was NOT talking about the UK, though I will be moving there in autumn for at least a year.
if you like to drink alcohol you'll love it.
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if you like to drink alcohol you'll love it.
I have lived in the UK before. I don't drink; heading to Yorkshire for educational reasons.
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For me...South Florida. Weather is beautiful 99% of the time. I wouldn't move back to Boston as it's just to dark and dreary for my liking. Winters suck, long, cold, dark and wet. The summer has shortened to about two months time with the added Spring teaser. Although watching the leaves turn in the fall was nice, it happened within a weeks time and was over and then usually dropped to 30 degrees, add snow (pretty first time around), then all the sanding, the city becomes very dirty. Down here in SF there is always color. Flowers are always in bloom. The ocean is clear and warm. It's sooooooooooooo much cleaner here all around. The people are friendlier and not always in an unrealistic hurry (although there are times that Floridians are too laxidaisy and slow :-\)
I love it here. :D
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Im surprised no one has mentioned Denver, Dallas/Ft Worth or Miami?
For me San Deigo, Dallas/Ft Worth, Vegas, somewhere in AZ.
Im all for the warm weather year -round. Cant deal with the freezing winter 9 months of the year like up in NYC.
Reason Im not there yet is because I work for myself and have local clientel.
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For me...South Florida. Weather is beautiful 99% of the time. I wouldn't move back to Boston as it's just to dark and dreary for my liking. Winters suck, long, cold, dark and wet. The summer has shortened to about two months time with the added Spring teaser. Although watching the leaves turn in the fall was nice, it happened within a weeks time and was over and then usually dropped to 30 degrees, add snow (pretty first time around), then all the sanding, the city becomes very dirty. Down here in SF there is always color. Flowers are always in bloom. The ocean is clear and warm. It's sooooooooooooo much cleaner here all around. The people are friendlier and not always in an unrealistic hurry (although there are times that Floridians are too laxidaisy and slow :-\)
I love it here. :D
Laura, I couldn't agree with you more. Florida is paradise! Have you been to Fort Jefferson/Dry Tortugas, or the other "7 Wonders of Florida"? Check out the former on Google Earth! You can only get there by seaplane or boat.
#1 = San Francisco
#2 = (South) Florida
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florida is nice but the people are trash
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SoCal. Apparently johnnyvegas walks around with natural 20 inch arms , but he wont post a pic
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I thought you were in Florida?
It's nice to know you are thinking of me (have cock on the brain) and care enough to ask. ::)
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whatabout alabama?
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Bluto dont you live in Prague??
when I was there a couple years ago, the weather was crappola
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argentina has free health care!
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argentina has free health care!
The USA is number one!!!!!!!!!!! Yay................... ::)
Buenos Aires is a chique city.... :)
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Prepare an escape route.
I'm going to Sweden.
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I'm going to Sweden.
great porn industry there. :D
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really, most of paraguayans just cross the border and go there for free health care
and if the docs here cant figure out whta the fuck is wring with you they just ship you to buenos aires hahaha
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The USA is number one!!!!!!!!!!! Yay................... ::)
Buenos Aires is a chique city.... :)
Your anti-American rants are boring and passe.
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Your anti-American rants are boring and passe.
Your 'America is the best' rants are equally boring and insipid.
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Funny to listen to arrogant Europeans try to tear down America for being arrogant.
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europe and america both fail to compete with ASIA :D
i would say africa for its women but its economic status REALLLY prohibits me from including it, :-X
asian women can be super hot tho, so that is good
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Bluto dont you live in Prague??
when I was there a couple years ago, the weather was crappola
it's beautiful but it's no barbados
but americans can live wherever they want in the us, still most dont live in the sun ???
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Lower 48: Mostly Southern San Diego county, along the ocean front. Except Imperial Beach. If you want desert (low and high) or mountains just go east on Hwy 8 or north on the 15. There before you know it. Can also throw in Flagstaff,AZ if you want to get away from it all. Very cool place, as is Carmel, Ca area.
Off the mainland: Hawaii. North Shore, Pipeline, Off the Wall, Back door, etc. Waimea Bay has too many people on vacation. Among other things, their sun block/lotions cast a smell everywhere they go. Though the visting two week vacation girls (girls really gone wild) are easy picking for the native guy's. Or any one else for that matter. Got to have the big bucks though to live there year round.. Only Me must be rolling in cash.
Foreign places: Ixtapa Zihuatanejo, Mexico. If you like a little more remote area, Colima, Mexico.
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Your 'America is the best' rants are equally boring and insipid.
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latin america owns all
:P :P :P :P :P :P
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latin america owns all
:P :P :P :P :P :P
How do you feel about Mexicans?
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It's nice to know you are thinking of me (have cock on the brain) and care enough to ask. ::)
Nice try, fag. >:(
I just have a good memory and remember what people post. I recall you saying you lived in Florida. ::)
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How do you feel about Mexicans?
mexicans are pure indians... plus they dont have souls... 8)
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and we don't have to pay a single penny for any of it regardless of how rich we are.
so tell me, how exactly is the us 'health system' better?
also in europe we dont have to worry about getting shot, although we do have a knife problem in glasgow (knife stabbing capital of europe if not the world :()
Do the doctors and other medical personnel in Scotland work for free? If not, then, someone is paying for it.
Then again, all I know about Scotland is what I saw in "Trainspotting." Frankly, I wasn't impressed.
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Cool thread man. Currently i live on Curacao, Caribean.. Pretty nice.. 24/7 summer which is very nice, but dont see myself living here for the rest of my life. San Fransisco looks great, so do a couple other places in the states. Not sure about going back to The Netherlands in a couple of years..
Would like to hear Xfactor or Panda's opinions on this...
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Funny to listen to arrogant Europeans try to tear down America for being arrogant.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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I lived in Ft Lauderdale for about 3 months even though it was a suite at the Days Inn it was awesome. I loved it. I spent quite awhile on the other coast too in Ft. Myers. I liked the idea so many people I knew had Cigarette boats. Going to the Bahamas for lunch was fun as heck. If there is anyone on here that lives there, have you seen the boat called Green Monster. I had that boat at my disposal whenever I wanted to go out. The driver was a former world champion Powerboat guy. Everyday in Florida was a vacation for me. In fact other than where I grew up in Manhattan Beach, CA there was no where I would rather live than Florida..............til l I came to Hawaii.
I went there for an appearance back in May of 1989 and they put me up at the Hilton Hawaiian Village for a week. It was just unreal. I literally quit doing everything in LA and moved there 3 months later. I gave my ex my BMW and sold everything else and just moved. Because I always like people around me I like Oahu best. There is unlimited things to do there and meeting people from all over the world is alot of fun. And YES girls visiting there are easy pickings to pick-up on and take home for one-nighters. I think I like that best other than the scenery. And since I look the way I did I was accepted by the local people really easy, which made it great too. The people of Hawaii are easily the best in the world when it comes to friendly. Okay now I miss it.
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Cool thread man. Currently i live on Curacao, Caribean.. Pretty nice.. 24/7 summer which is very nice, but dont see myself living here for the rest of my life. San Fransisco looks great, so do a couple other places in the states. Not sure about going back to The Netherlands in a couple of years..
Would like to hear Xfactor or Panda's opinions on this...
curasao
yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! been there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i envy you dude...
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mexicans are pure indians... plus they dont have souls... 8)
Mexicans are not pure indians.........that is an insult to indians everywhere.
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Seattle is nice to visit... but it's like 4th or 5th on the list.
#1 San Francisco
#2 (South) Florida
#3 San Diego/Santa Barbara
#4 Seattle
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I lived in Ft Lauderdale for about 3 months even though it was a suite at the Days Inn it was awesome. I loved it. I spent quite awhile on the other coast too in Ft. Myers. I liked the idea so many people I knew had Cigarette boats. Going to the Bahamas for lunch was fun as heck. If there is anyone on here that lives there, have you seen the boat called Green Monster. I had that boat at my disposal whenever I wanted to go out. The driver was a former world champion Powerboat guy. Everyday in Florida was a vacation for me. In fact other than where I grew up in Manhattan Beach, CA there was no where I would rather live than Florida..............til l I came to Hawaii.
I went there for an appearance back in May of 1989 and they put me up at the Hilton Hawaiian Village for a week. It was just unreal. I literally quit doing everything in LA and moved there 3 months later. I gave my ex my BMW and sold everything else and just moved. Because I always like people around me I like Oahu best. There is unlimited things to do there and meeting people from all over the world is alot of fun. And YES girls visiting there are easy pickings to pick-up on and take home for one-nighters. I think I like that best other than the scenery. And since I look the way I did I was accepted by the local people really easy, which made it great too. The people of Hawaii are easily the best in the world when it comes to friendly. Okay now I miss it.
Objectively. Hawaii beats Florida but 'island fever' and the time it takes to get anywhere from Hawaii makes it lower on the list.
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Seattle is nice to visit... but it's like 4th or 5th on the list.
#1 San Francisco
#2 (South) Florida
#3 San Diego/Santa Barbara
#4 Seattle
This list must be in order of fagginess or something.
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#1 = San Francisco
Absolutely gorgeous.
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what makes seattle get on the list? i thought it was just for grunge bands
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This list must be in order of fagginess or something.
What a surprise, Goatboi has cock on the brain. Oh well, at least it's not in your mouth (at the moment). :D
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what makes seattle get on the list? i thought it was just for grunge bands
Seattle is overrated. The weather is overcast and crappy there most of the time.
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Objectively. Hawaii beats Florida but 'island fever' and the time it takes to get anywhere from Hawaii makes it lower on the list.
I don't understand what the time it takes to get anywhere means. You don't within the state (island to island do you). And I always was asked about island fever. I moved there in 1989. In 1997 my daughter had 63 tickets she saved from my trips to LA. I flew back and forth to LA a lot to see my daughters and get off the island. And when I didn't go I flew them to Hawaii. I don't know any teenager that had been to Hawaii more than my oldest. And I tried to go to an outer island at least two weekends a month. I loved visiting Maui, Kauai and The Big Island. Molokai too was kind of fun. I thought compared to Oahu all the other islands were great places to visit but not ever live on. But in 2003 I ended up moving to Kona on the Big Island. I truly have to say that place is boring as hell. It is absolutely beautiful but boring. I also think it was boring too because of my weight and the fact I could not do as much as I could before when I visited for a weekend. Being a fat slob really fucks up your social life. Hey that could be the title of my book.
And Seattle must be horrible cause there are so many Seattle people who move to Hawaii.
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What a surprise, Goatboi has cock on the brain. Oh well, at least it's not in your mouth (at the moment). :D
You're an AIDS case waiting to happen Bay... you must have moved to San Fagville Fransciso because you heard they had good AIDS hospices or something.
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Where are all these wonderfully interesting big city people hiding when I visit? New York, Frisco, Seattle ... mostly freaks, punks, and self-important pricks. Interesting places perhaps, but the good folks are in small towns.
Diversity is overrated.
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And San Francisco is a filthy fucking mess. Shame terrorists aren't interested in the Bay.
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For me...South Florida. Weather is beautiful 99% of the time. I wouldn't move back to Boston as it's just to dark and dreary for my liking. Winters suck, long, cold, dark and wet. The summer has shortened to about two months time with the added Spring teaser. Although watching the leaves turn in the fall was nice, it happened within a weeks time and was over and then usually dropped to 30 degrees, add snow (pretty first time around), then all the sanding, the city becomes very dirty. Down here in SF there is always color. Flowers are always in bloom. The ocean is clear and warm. It's sooooooooooooo much cleaner here all around. The people are friendlier and not always in an unrealistic hurry (although there are times that Floridians are too laxidaisy and slow :-\)
I love it here. :D
Few points: I wouldn't consider Boston dark ( compared to a city like Seattle)..... The summer is defiantly longer than two months ( it gets warm in May, and typically you are still getting 80 degree days in early september.) It's 90 currently, and we where getting 80 degree days in late April this year. I agree that the winter sucks, but that is true of any city that has a real winter. If you enjoy winter sports, and a white Christmas, it's a big plus in my opinion. Also, spring and fall are extremely beautiful here, and they last a lot longer than a week. I wouldn't argue that Florida is not beautiful, but the constant humidity, and horrible mosquito's wear on you in day to day life. Also, the housing market and economy is pretty bad in Florida right now. You make less money down south, and there is a very large "backwoods" population in Florida. From a career standpoint, a city like Boston has a lot more to offer than most city's in America. As far as the sanding goes, I wouldn't say the city gets "dirty", infact Boston is one of the cleanest city's in America. The "sand" from the winter is cleaned by the city as soon as winter ends, there is a large budget for it actually. Not sure if you ever saw Boston ranked as one of the cleanest city's in America, but having spent time in most major Florida city's, I can say for a fact that Florida is not cleaner than Boston (from a garbage / bum)standpoint - I would say the opposite. There is no bad part of Metro Boston, as the "ghettos" are located outside the major metro areas. Boston is one of the most beautiful and historic city's in America, and although it is not tropical, there is not a city in Florida that is more beautiful architecturally than Boston - IMO. In the summer, Cape Cod beaches rival any beach on earth.
If you are the type of person that like constant humid heat, then of course you are not going to like Boston. But if you like a full blend of seasons, Boston is a great choice.
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Few points here, I wouldn't consider Boston dark ( compared to a city like Seattle)..... The summer is defiantly longer than two months ( it gets warm in May, and typically you are still getting 80 degree days in early september.) It's 90 currently, and we where getting 80 degree days in late April this year. I agree that the winter sucks, but that is true of any city that has a real winter. If you enjoy winter sports, and a white Christmas, it is a big plus in my opinion. Also, spring and fall are extremely beautiful here, and they last a lot longer than a week. I wouldn't argue that Florida is not beautiful, but the constant humidity, and horrible mosquito's wear on you in day to day life. Also, the housing market and economy is pretty bad in Florida right now. You make less money down south, and there is a very large "backwoods" population in Florida. From a career standpoint, a city like Boston has a lot more to offer than most city's in America. As far as the sanding goes, I wouldn't say the city gets dirty, infact Boston is one of the cleanest city's in America. Not sure if you ever saw Boston ranked as now of the cleanest city's in America, but having spent time in Most major Florida city's, I can say for a fact that Florida is not cleaner than Boston, from a garbage/bum standpoint I would say the opposite. There is no bad part of Metro Boston, as the "ghettos" are located outside the major metro areas. Boston is one of the most beautiful and historic city's in America, and although it is not tropical, there is not a city in Florida that is more beautiful architecturally than Boston. In the summer, cap cod beaches rival any beach on earth.
If you are the type of person that like constant humid heat, then of course you are not going to like Boston. But if you like a full blend of seasons, Boston is a great choice.
You must work in the tourism industry.
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We all know you hate Mexicans, Chaos (who can blame you ;D)
But whats your opinion in this thread man?
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You must work in the tourism industry.
Nope, been to most major cities in the country, and have seen what most have to offer. Taking all things into consideration - ( not just weather) I would rank it like this:
New York
Boston
San Fransico
Seattle
San Dieago
Washington DC (metro)
Weather
Hawaii
San Dieago
Florida
I'm talking about more than just nice weather - we are talking careers, schools, economy, technology, hospitals, jobs and quality of life. Sure you can say Florida is the best place to live, until you need to buy a house, and maximize your earning potential. Thats not to say you can't, but a city like Boston or NYC offers a hell of a lot more in regards to carrer oppurtunites to a college grad, than a lot of cities. Some of these places being listed are no doubt the best climates in the USA, not so sure about much more though.
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Few points: I wouldn't consider Boston dark ( compared to a city like Seattle)..... The summer is defiantly longer than two months ( it gets warm in May, and typically you are still getting 80 degree days in early september.) It's 90 currently, and we where getting 80 degree days in late April this year. I agree that the winter sucks, but that is true of any city that has a real winter. If you enjoy winter sports, and a white Christmas, it's a big plus in my opinion. Also, spring and fall are extremely beautiful here, and they last a lot longer than a week. I wouldn't argue that Florida is not beautiful, but the constant humidity, and horrible mosquito's wear on you in day to day life. Also, the housing market and economy is pretty bad in Florida right now. You make less money down south, and there is a very large "backwoods" population in Florida. From a career standpoint, a city like Boston has a lot more to offer than most city's in America. As far as the sanding goes, I wouldn't say the city gets "dirty", infact Boston is one of the cleanest city's in America. The "sand" from the winter is cleaned by the city as soon as winter ends, there is a large budget for it actually. Not sure if you ever saw Boston ranked as one of the cleanest city's in America, but having spent time in most major Florida city's, I can say for a fact that Florida is not cleaner than Boston (from a garbage / bum)standpoint - I would say the opposite. There is no bad part of Metro Boston, as the "ghettos" are located outside the major metro areas. Boston is one of the most beautiful and historic city's in America, and although it is not tropical, there is not a city in Florida that is more beautiful architecturally than Boston - IMO. In the summer, Cape Cod beaches rival any beach on earth.
If you are the type of person that like constant humid heat, then of course you are not going to like Boston. But if you like a full blend of seasons, Boston is a great choice.
I lived in Boston all through grad school and worked there for a couple years afterwards. The city is dark, insular, and segregated, with very harsh winters and short summers; the year I moved there people were wearing heavy coats and gloves in October. I wouldn't go back there for a job at Harvard or MIT. :(
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The Lovely...St. Louis, Missouri
Hi Squadfather
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We all know you hate Mexicans, Chaos (who can blame you ;D)
But whats your opinion in this thread man?
Personally, I was born and raised in SoCal, lived here all my life, and I love it when I travel and get into small towns in the middle of nowhere USA.....
So my opinion would be any small town in Nowhere USA! :D
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Argentina is one third Italian I have been told. True Torres? Mexico has Europe ties, culture wise. Spanish, French, German and even English and Irish. The Irish played a strong role in their many revolutions over the years. Jewish influence also. All we see up here in the U.S. are Mexican illegals mostly the poor & rural with high Indian blood and no education.
The people republic of San Francisco, though a interesting and somewhat charming city, with great ethnic (4 and 5 star) eating establishments, lost a lot of it's charm with the roving band of street people (a polite term used here). It's like where every you go some vomit stained A-wipe has his hand out for money. Plus the shit and smell of piss in just about every store door downtown Market street and that plaza area. Also the thrill of Castro St. is well lost on me. San Francisco is more a state of mind than a actual city, in my view. The weather can be cold and damp most of the year, though people from the British isles may enjoy that. Interest how a place so foggy can also be so windy. NorCal eddy's I guess.
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I lived in Boston all through grad school and worked there for a couple years afterwards. The city is dark, insular, and segregated, with very harsh winters and short summers; the year I moved there people were wearing heavy coats and gloves in October. I wouldn't go back there for a job at Harvard or MIT. :(
Thats your opinion, I would have to disagree. Not sure how you could say a city that legalized gay marriage, and has a massive college population is segregated and insular, but you did say San Fran has a nice climate, so to each his own I guess. Most colleges here have a large international population, and they all live in the city. Tons of foreign doctors, lawyers and professionals as well. I would think you would agree if you spent time at MIT, or Harvard? As for Boston being dark, it's not even close to as dark or rainy as Seattle, which many consider a top city.
The city is 80 percent young professionals, and college students. The winters are long, but I enjoy snow, and change of season. Fall and spring are great seasons here, and I enjoy the color that comes with it. I wouldn't call a four month summer short, either. I bet it's hotter in Boston during the summer than it is in Frisco. It's consistently in the 80's all summer long.
As far as a great city goes perfect climate is a portion of the puzzle. From a technological standpoint, as well as Career opportunities I can say for a fact Boston is among the elite. The city is pretty trendy, and there is alot to do. It's not Hawaii, but you don't go to Hawaii to establish a career. There is a reason people come from around the world to attend the colleges, and seek medical attention at the hospitals.
Please dont take offense to this, but your top list was a bit swayed towards the gay lifestyle ( which is fine).
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Would Manteca be the capital of Nowhere, USA?
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It's like where every you go some vomit stained A-wipe has his hand out for money. Plus the shit and smell of piss in just about every store door downtown Market street and that plaza area.
They call this "character." It's part of the city's charm.
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Vermont
Anyone that says that has not lived there for any length of time.
Vermont sucks, I am so happy to be out of the northeast.
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Argentina is one third Italian I have been told. True Torres? Mexico has Europe ties, culture wise. Spanish, French, German and even English and Irish. The Irish played a strong role in their many revolutions over the years. Jewish influence also. All we see up here in the U.S. are Mexican illegals mostly the poor & rural with high Indian blood and no education.
The people republic of San Francisco, though a interesting and somewhat charming city, with great ethnic (4 and 5 star) eating establishments, lost a lot of it's charm with the roving band of street people (a polite term used here). It's like where every you go some vomit stained A-wipe has his hand out for money. Plus the shit and smell of piss in just about every store door downtown Market street and that plaza area. Also the thrill of Castro St. is well lost on me. San Francisco is more a state of mind than a actual city, in my view. The weather can be cold and damp most of the year, though people from the British isles may enjoy that. Interest how a place so foggy can also be so windy. NorCal eddy's I guess.
yeas... i think its even more than that... EVERYONE IS FUCKING WHITE WIHT SPANISH OR ITALIAN NAMES
my family(from my dad, lives there) and its like that, i would say even more... my dad is argentinean by the way...
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Cool thread man. Currently i live on Curacao, Caribean.. Pretty nice.. 24/7 summer which is very nice, but dont see myself living here for the rest of my life. San Fransisco looks great, so do a couple other places in the states. Not sure about going back to The Netherlands in a couple of years..
Would like to hear Xfactor or Panda's opinions on this...
To many criminals on Curacao. People are lazy, don't want to work in construction or tourist industry, in short they don't want to work for their money. The Netherlands is much better of selling that damn island to Venezuela. Nothing good comes from Curacao.
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aruba curasao and isla margarita
paradise... ;D
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aruba curasao and isla margarita
paradise... ;D
Lots of cheap hookers for you my latin friend.
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Lots of cheap hookers for you my latin friend.
been there... LOVED IT :P
specially margarita!
:) i fucked a danish girl over there! :P :P :P
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The Ugly: I am tall and extra large by normal standards, and they keep following behind as I walk away, yelling every name in the book at me because of no bills dropped their way. Kind of would like to turn around and put some pressure on their knee caps to see what would happen. But of course, law and order on whatever terms(?). Than again they would probably have a ACLU lawyer on my case in no time. All in all, I think SF works better for gay's than straights. They can have it all with with my best regards.
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The Ugly: I am tall and extra large by normal standards, and they keep following behind as I walk away, yelling every name in the book at me because of no bills dropped their way. Kind of would like to turn around and put some pressure on their knee caps to see what would happen. But of course, law and order on whatever terms(?). Than again they would probably have a ACLU lawyer on my case in no time. All in all, I think SF works better for gay's than straights. They can have it all with with my best regards.
SF is so out-of-control socialist, it defies logic. They'll protect Hobo Joe's right to shit on the sidewalk at all costs. At the expense of business owners and $-spending tourists he chases away, 'cause they don't want to further victimize poor Joe.
Who feeds Joe again?
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Do the doctors and other medical personnel in Scotland work for free? If not, then, someone is paying for it.
Then again, all I know about Scotland is what I saw in "Trainspotting." Frankly, I wasn't impressed.
yes we pay a percentage in tax off our wages, but if i needed major surgery i wouldn't have to pay a penny for it.
it works in at around $100 a month - how much do americans pay for health insurance?
i watched that film sicko - and am under no illusions, we have a much much better system, oh by the way we also do private health care, and if i had loads of money i still wouldn't use it.
America do lots of things right, but if you would change 1 or 2 things you would be perfect.
i.e. health system and banning guns are the main things.
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i.e. health system and banning guns are the main things.
What the hell is with Europeans' obsession with our guns here in America? Seriously... do you not realize that the only effective method for defending oneself from those who would do you harm is a firearm? What right does a government have to take away a person's means with which to defend themself? If someone misuses a firearm, then put them in jail, that's what we do, but there's no reason in the world law-abiding citizens should be at the mercy of criminals because paternalistic governments have decided they shouldn't be allowed guns.
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What the hell is with Europeans' obsession with our guns here in America? Seriously... do you not realize that the only effective method for defending oneself from those who would do you harm is a firearm? What right does a government have to take away a person's means with which to defend themself? If someone misuses a firearm, then put them in jail, that's what we do, but there's no reason in the world law-abiding citizens should be at the mercy of criminals because paternalistic governments have decided they shouldn't be allowed guns.
yeah.. im al for guns too
two years ago some dude got into our house, my dad saw them in the camera system... took the shot gun and shot one of them in the leg... ;D
then, the other one too..hahaha
they deserved it... its either you or them...
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What the hell is with Europeans' obsession with our guns here in America? Seriously... do you not realize that the only effective method for defending oneself from those who would do you harm is a firearm? What right does a government have to take away a person's means with which to defend themself? If someone misuses a firearm, then put them in jail, that's what we do, but there's no reason in the world law-abiding citizens should be at the mercy of criminals because paternalistic governments have decided they shouldn't be allowed guns.
hahah exactly. Problem is they never had many to begin with. Winchester made sure we all had at least on in our hands and eacted reponsively from early on ;D
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yeah.. im al for guns too
two years ago some dude got into our house, my dad saw them in the camera system... took the shot gun and shot one of them in the leg... ;D
then, the other one too..hahaha
they deserved it... its either you or them...
exactly. Call the cops and wait ten minutes and by the time they get there you're dead or have a license to carry and take action.
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I think SF works better for gay's than straights. They can have it all with with my best regards.
Why do they tolerate it, though? Hell, they finance it!
As if reckless, hairy buttsex isn't itself a sufficient deterrent, knowing I'm expected to settle in that toilet will forever steer me toward vagina.
Hey, Bay Gays! Two words: Laguna Beach.
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exactly. Call the cops and wait ten minutes and by the time they get there you're dead or have a license to carry and take action.
ten minutes in the states.... here they would show up the next day...
that is why all members of my family are able to use guns... even my lil bro, since he was 15 i think...
the good thing here is that you can actually kill them without many things said to yo u afterwards... 8)
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What the hell is with Europeans' obsession with our guns here in America? Seriously... do you not realize that the only effective method for defending oneself from those who would do you harm is a firearm? What right does a government have to take away a person's means with which to defend themself? If someone misuses a firearm, then put them in jail, that's what we do, but there's no reason in the world law-abiding citizens should be at the mercy of criminals because paternalistic governments have decided they shouldn't be allowed guns.
hahahahaha fvcking coward !
whats wrong with fists? the butt of your head, knee, feet, or if your a complete pussy a knife?
land of the free and home of the brave - hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha
clearly your suggestion of - if somone misuses a gun put him in jail is flawed, as each misuse more often than not results in a death ::)
and the death rates arn't getting any lower ::)
dumber than dirt.
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hahahahaha fvcking coward !
whats wrong with fists? the butt of your head, knee, feet, or if your a complete pussy a knife?
land of the free and home of the brave - hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha
Evolution.
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Evolution.
another coward ::)
you are all missing the point - any monkey with a gun can kill with the twitch of a finger.
if guns were banned someone would have to actually engage in mortal combat to kill someone - much less appealing.
americans who love their guns = retards
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another coward ::)
you are all missing the point - any monkey with a gun can kill with the twitch of a finger.
if guns were banned someone would have to actually engage in mortal combat to kill someone - much less appealing.
americans who love their guns = retards
Settled down "Fatpanda".
The entire country was "conquered" using guns. It's part of the history. 150 years ago you wouldn't even go take a shit in the backhouse without carrying your gun for true safety.
Hope this eye opens.
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another coward ::)
you are all missing the point - any monkey with a gun can kill with the twitch of a finger.
if guns were banned someone would have to actually engage in mortal combat to kill someone - much less appealing.
americans who love their guns = retards
this is the dumbest logic ever. 'Gun Control' is designed to take firearms away from citizens. Guess what, criminals generally don't care about laws and will still obtain guns illegally if they are banned. Great logic, take a means of defense away from law abiding citizens while giving criminals more access to them. ::) ::) ::)
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Cool thread man. Currently i live on Curacao, Caribean.. Pretty nice.. 24/7 summer which is very nice, but dont see myself living here for the rest of my life. San Fransisco looks great, so do a couple other places in the states. Not sure about going back to The Netherlands in a couple of years..
Would like to hear Xfactor or Panda's opinions on this...
i don't understand what the question is?
are you asking if you should move back to holland?
is this for good or for another few years? is it job related? there are many nice places in europe, perhaps you should experience those instead.
Settled down "Fatpanda".
The entire country was "conquered" using guns. It's part of the history. 150 years ago you wouldn't even go take a shit in the backhouse without carrying your gun for true safety.
Hope this eye opens.
settle down 'alex23' ;D
i realise this, but the whole world was "conquered using swords and bow and arrows" - you don't see the world running around still using those because its historic.
europe and asia are thriving in our gun free lands - with much less sorrow and death that america has to deal with every single day :'(
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this is the dumbest logic ever. 'Gun Control' is designed to take firearms away from citizens. Guess what, criminals generally don't care about laws and will still obtain guns illegally if they are banned. Great logic, take a means of defense away from law abiding citizens while giving criminals more access to them. ::) ::) ::)
Easy mass 04, too much reality in their little faces might cause a generalized Euro Meltdown. Even their healthcare system isn't ready for that.
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this is the dumbest logic ever. 'Gun Control' is designed to take firearms away from citizens. Guess what, criminals generally don't care about laws and will still obtain guns illegally if they are banned. Great logic, take a means of defense away from law abiding citizens while giving criminals more access to them. ::) ::) ::)
hahahahaha smell the fear
yes this is hypothetical, please keep up.
if this ever was made the law obviously it would take a while to rid the streets of guns, in fact it you would probably never be 100% gun free, but just think of how much crime would be reduced. :)
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Easy mass 04, too much reality in their little faces might cause a generalized Euro Meltdown. Even their healthcare system isn't ready for that.
I think he watches too many Van Damme movies. Three guys point the barrel of a gun in your face unless your Jackie Chan no amount of 'hand to hand' combat is going to save you.
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but there's no reason in the world law-abiding citizens should be at the mercy of criminals because paternalistic governments have decided they shouldn't be allowed guns.
But g o a t , if we ban guns, criminals won't be allowed to have them either. What part of illegal don't you understand?
Plus, think of all the latch-key cerebellum you're protecting. Every year, one or two curious, adolescent itchy-fingers decorates the bedroom wall with grey matter and a carelessly stored Beretta.
Now doesn't this trump your silly Constitution?
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But g o a t , if we ban guns, criminals won't be allowed to have them either. What part of illegal don't you understand?
Do euro criminals use sling shots?
Now doesn't this trump your silly Constitution?
settle down.
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hahahahaha fvcking coward !
whats wrong with fists?
Fists are great as long as you're a 20-35 year old bodybuilder.
What if you're a woman? What if you're a 65-year-old man? What if you're not an athlete? What if you're handicapped? What if 4 criminals come at you at once, even if you are a 20-35 year old bodybuilder?
Are all those people "cowards" too ::) ::) ::)
See how you feel about "fisticufs" when you're 70 and three 25-year-olds come at you to rob and beat you. You'll be there some day, weights or no.
"Dumber than dirt". ::)
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Fists are great as long as you're a 20-35 year old bodybuilder.
What if you're a woman? What if you're a 65-year-old man? What if you're not an athlete? What if you're handicapped? What if 4 criminals come at you at once, even if you are a 20-35 year old bodybuilder?
Are all those people "cowards" too ::) ::) ::)
See how you feel about "fisticufs" what you're 70 and three 25-year-olds come at you. You'll be there some day, weights or no.
"Dumber than dirt". ::)
refer to the darwin thread. :P
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But g o a t , if we ban guns, criminals won't be allowed to have them either. What part of illegal don't you understand?
Plus, think of all the latch-key cerebellum you're protecting. Every year, one or two curious, adolescent itchy-fingers decorates the bedroom wall with grey matter and a carelessly stored Beretta.
Now doesn't this trump your silly Constitution?
whoaaaaaaaaaaaa
have you heard of "black market" you can get a lot of ILEGAL shit there, including guns...
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Fists are great as long as you're a 20-35 year old bodybuilder.
What if you're a woman? What if you're a 65-year-old man? What if you're not an athlete? What if you're handicapped? What if 4 criminals come at you at once, even if you are a 20-35 year old bodybuilder?
Are all those people "cowards" too ::) ::) ::)
See how you feel about "fisticufs" what you're 70 and three 25-year-olds come at you to rob and beat you. You'll be there some day, weights or no.
"Dumber than dirt". ::)
Flawed logic. You imply that 20-35yo bodybuilders can defend themselves.
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Flawed logic. You imply that 20-35yo bodybuilders can defend themselves.
;D
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;D
There's french canadian movie called Leolo that no one gives a shit but had an interesting story.
A young 16yo who keeps getting his ass kicked starts bodybuilding and ingurgitating large amount of protein powders" and as he gets bigger, starts wearing string tanks and shit (80's).
Toward the end, he's getting pretty big. Meets the same kid and gets his ass handed to him again and melts beyond oblivion.
A classic ;D
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But g o a t , if we ban guns, criminals won't be allowed to have them either. What part of illegal don't you understand?
Well, when a 250-lb man decides he wants to rape and kill my 120-lb wife, I'm sure she'll feel soooooo much better about the fact he doesn't have a gun. ::)
(of course, given that we don't live in socialist Europe, she does have one. ;))
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Well, when a 250-lb man decides he wants to rape and kill my 120-lb wife, I'm sure she'll feel soooooo much better about the fact he doesn't have a gun. ::)
(of course, given that we don't live in socialist Europe, she does have one. ;))
again, refer to the darwin thread. ;D
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There's french canadian movie called Leolo that no one gives a shit but had an interesting story.
A young 16yo who keeps getting his ass kicked starts bodybuilding and ingurgitating large amount of protein powders" and as he gets bigger, starts wearing string tanks and shit (80's).
Toward the end, he's getting pretty big. Meets the same kid and gets his ass handed to him again and melts beyond oblivion.
LOL ;D
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Well, when a 250-lb man decides he wants to rape and kill my 120-lb wife, I'm sure she'll feel soooooo much better about the fact he doesn't have a gun. ::)
(of course, given that we don't live in socialist Europe, she does have one. ;))
dont worry that wont happen - shes an ugly cvnt !
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dont worry that wont happen - shes an ugly #### !
Gee, you're pretty passionate about your foolish "no guns" stance... so much so that it drives you to make crude remarks about the wife of someone you've never met.
Congratulations, you've officially melted down.
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Gee, you're pretty passionate about your foolish "no guns" stance... so much so that it drives you to make crude remarks about the wife of someone you've never met.
It = common knowledge that your wife is an ugly iranian muslim whore named Tracy. Stop being so damn sensitive about it G o t h b o y ::)
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perhaps you are taking this too seriously, with your 'what if a 100 lb hemiplegic saw a friendly dog running at him, and had to put the bitch down incase it jumped up on him' argument.
yes - perhaps an old man would get robbed, or a woman, or child or beat up, raped, etc etc etc - but at least they won't get shot.
i know what i'd prefer.
as for your wife - if she's a muslim and alone in the company of men - then the rape would be her fault ;)
ass allah malekum brother :-*
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jay cutler lives in vegas
why dont you ?
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hahahahaha fvcking coward !
whats wrong with fists? the butt of your head, knee, feet, or if your a complete pussy a knife?
land of the free and home of the brave - hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha
clearly your suggestion of - if somone misuses a gun put him in jail is flawed, as each misuse more often than not results in a death ::)
and the death rates arn't getting any lower ::)
dumber than dirt.
i have enough guns to start my own army,and i have never had any accidents.i have friends with just as many and they never had any accidents ;)
i actually know no one who has ever had a gun related mishap.
as far as i am concerned a gun accident is nothing more than natural selection at its finest 8)
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stick to the topics guys. otherwise i will have to ask to be a mod on the g & o. not sure you want that
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i have enough guns to start my own army,and i have never had any accidents.i have friends with just as many and they never had any accidents ;)
i actually know no one who has ever had a gun related mishap.
as far as i am concerned a gun accident is nothing more than natural selection at its finest 8)
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Most gun owners a.will never be in a situation dangerous enough to use the gun b.are intelligent enough to use discretion. It's teh idiots who have shootouts over parking spaces or Skynrd songs that give owners a bad name.
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stick to the topics guys. otherwise i will have to ask to be a mod on the g & o. not sure you want that
settle down bro,i didnt know you canadians oops i meant "eastern europeans" ::) were so short tempered.
seriously though,i would never live in a state that was one dimesional thats why i love texas we have the beaches,the hills,the woods, the desert like climate in some places.
a few other states have the same advantages but texas is were i call home.
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Most gun owners a.will never be in a situation dangerous enough to use the gun b.are intelligent enough to use discretion. It's teh idiots who have shootouts over parking spaces or Skynrd songs that give owners a bad name.
agreed.
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one million Americans have died in firearm-related homicides, suicides, and unintentional shootings since 1962. :o
i bet they all disagree with the fools on here.
from: "Fatal Firearm Injuries in the United States: 1962-1994," Violence Surveillance Summary Series, No. 3 (Atlanta: National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, 1997) and "Deaths: Final Data for 1995;" "Deaths: Final Data for 1996;" "Deaths: Final Data for 1997," National Vital Statistics Reports 47, no. 19 (1999).
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as for your wife - if she's a muslim and alone in the company of men - then the rape would be her fault ;)
ass allah malekum brother :-*
She's not a muslim you idiot.... Depussey just likes to say that to piss me off.
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one million Americans have died in firearm-related homicides, suicides, and unintentional shootings since 1962. :o
i bet they all disagree with the fools on here.
from: "Fatal Firearm Injuries in the United States: 1962-1994," Violence Surveillance Summary Series, No. 3 (Atlanta: National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, 1997) and "Deaths: Final Data for 1995;" "Deaths: Final Data for 1996;" "Deaths: Final Data for 1997," National Vital Statistics Reports 47, no. 19 (1999).
Post above @ 1:00...
guns don't kill pandas. Chinaman do. ;D
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She's not a muslim you idiot.... Depussey just likes to say that to piss me off.
I can back that up. Bashing on someone's wife/girlfriend is a dangerous game, believe you me.
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my freind says los anglees in the bom
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my freind says los anglees in the bom
"in the bom"?
sounds like your friend is trying to trick you into some sex slave trading of some sort.
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"in the bom"?
sounds like your friend is trying to trick you into some sex slave trading of some sort.
aahaahhahahahaahhaaaha ;D
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my freind says los anglees in the bom
Do you have hands or are you typing with nubs?
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She's not a muslim you idiot.... Depussey just likes to say that to piss me off.
hahahahahahahahaha oh really, i guess it works then ;D
I can back that up. Bashing on someone's wife/girlfriend is a dangerous game, believe you me.
will you hunt them down alex, or hire a p.i. ::)
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Few points: I wouldn't consider Boston dark ( compared to a city like Seattle)..... The summer is defiantly longer than two months ( it gets warm in May, and typically you are still getting 80 degree days in early september.) It's 90 currently, and we where getting 80 degree days in late April this year. I agree that the winter sucks, but that is true of any city that has a real winter. If you enjoy winter sports, and a white Christmas, it's a big plus in my opinion. Also, spring and fall are extremely beautiful here, and they last a lot longer than a week. I wouldn't argue that Florida is not beautiful, but the constant humidity, and horrible mosquito's wear on you in day to day life. Also, the housing market and economy is pretty bad in Florida right now. You make less money down south, and there is a very large "backwoods" population in Florida. From a career standpoint, a city like Boston has a lot more to offer than most city's in America. As far as the sanding goes, I wouldn't say the city gets "dirty", infact Boston is one of the cleanest city's in America. The "sand" from the winter is cleaned by the city as soon as winter ends, there is a large budget for it actually. Not sure if you ever saw Boston ranked as one of the cleanest city's in America, but having spent time in most major Florida city's, I can say for a fact that Florida is not cleaner than Boston (from a garbage / bum)standpoint - I would say the opposite. There is no bad part of Metro Boston, as the "ghettos" are located outside the major metro areas. Boston is one of the most beautiful and historic city's in America, and although it is not tropical, there is not a city in Florida that is more beautiful architecturally than Boston - IMO. In the summer, Cape Cod beaches rival any beach on earth.
If you are the type of person that like constant humid heat, then of course you are not going to like Boston. But if you like a full blend of seasons, Boston is a great choice.
body88, I spent 41 of my 44 years in Boston. I know exactly what Boston (New England) weather is like and the summers are getting shorter and shorter while the winter (cold months) are getting longer. Boston still has occasional snow in March and April (I remember specifically getting 3 feet of snow on my daughters birthday in April). When I said fall lasts a week I was referring to the change in leaves colors. You blink, you miss it and don't tell me differently as I stated...I lived there. The 90 degree weather you are referring to comes as a heat wave and lasts maybe a week. Air is so thick you could cut it with a knife. The cold comes in mid September and by Halloween you have to bundle the kids in parkas so they don't freeze while trick or treating. I don't hate Boston (New England) and its nice to see changing seasons, but I'm done living 75% of my life in temperatures under 60 degrees.
As far as the pay, that would depend on what you are doing. I make far more per year than I did up there...which I thought was weird too, but like I said...it depends on your job. Even my sister who is a medical assistant and phlebotomist would make 2x more money here than in there.
You stated Florida is "backwoods" but the majority of people I have met down here...are from the North East...Boston, New York, New Jersey, etc. ;)
As far as the cleanliness. LMAO I started to say maybe Boston's focal point of places such as Government Center, Haymarket Square, etc would be kept clean...but then took it back because to me...they have always had trash and whatnot spew around. Back Bay is nice at times, but has it's moments as well. Let's talk about the neighboring towns such as Somerville, Chelsea, Charlestown, Roxbury, Mattapan, Lawrence, Dorchester, Revere, Lynn, Malden, Everett, ... cripes I could go on. Granted I don't live near near Florida's capital (Tallahassee) but the only place I have been told is a place you don't drive through due to "safety" considered "ghetto" is Belle Glades (and I'm sure some parts of Miami). Historically, yes it has beautiful architectural buildings...Florida's tropical buildings are beautiful as well. The pink, salmon, beige, cream colored stucco and clay roofs look amazing from the sky. Everything looks alive when flying into PBIA...while I cannot say the same about flying into Logan. Even the water looks different.
Everyone's opinion is obviously different. But having actually lived in both places, my opinion is that Florida is (for me) the best place to live.
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body88, I spent 41 of my 44 years in Boston. I know exactly what Boston (New England) weather is like and the summers are getting shorter and shorter while the winter (cold months) are getting longer. Boston still has occasional snow in March and April (I remember specifically getting 3 feet of snow on my daughters birthday in April). When I said fall lasts a week I was referring to the change in leaves colors. You blink, you miss it and don't tell me differently as I stated...I lived there. The 90 degree weather you are referring to comes as a heat wave and lasts maybe a week. Air is so thick you could cut it with a knife. The cold comes in mid September and by Halloween you have to bundle the kids in parkas so they don't freeze while trick or treating. I don't hate Boston (New England) and its nice to see changing seasons, but I'm done living 75% of my life in temperatures under 60 degrees.
As far as the pay, that would depend on what you are doing. I make far more per year than I did up there...which I thought was weird too, but like I said...it depends on your job. Even my sister who is a medical assistant and phlebotomist would make 2x more money here than in there.
You stated Florida is "backwoods" but the majority of people I have met down here...are from the North East...Boston, New York, New Jersey, etc. ;)
As far as the cleanliness. LMAO I started to say maybe Boston's focal point of places such as Government Center, Haymarket Square, etc would be kept clean...but then took it back because to me...they have always had trash and whatnot spew around. Back Bay is nice at times, but has it's moments as well. Let's talk about the neighboring towns such as Somerville, Chelsea, Charlestown, Roxbury, Mattapan, Lawrence, Dorchester, Revere, Lynn, Malden, Everett, ... cripes I could go on. Granted I don't live near near Florida's capital (Tallahassee) but the only place I have been told is a place you don't drive through due to "safety" considered "ghetto" is Belle Glades (and I'm sure some parts of Miami). Historically, yes it has beautiful architectural buildings...Florida's tropical buildings are beautiful as well. The pink, salmon, beige, cream colored stucco and clay roofs look amazing from the sky. Everything looks alive when flying into PBIA...while I cannot say the same about flying into Logan. Even the water looks different.
Everyone's opinion is obviously different. But having actually lived in both places, my opinion is that Florida is (for me) the best place to live.
You said it babe!
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yes the Boston winters do suck. I hate snow. >:(
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yes the Boston winters do suck. I hate snow. >:(
I'm visiting the grat city of boston in a week!!! Tell me about the hardcore gyms there great iron BROTHER!
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I'm visiting the grat city of boston in a week!!! Tell me about the hardcore gyms there great iron BROTHER!
Shouldnt you go talk to your Boston Terrorist turban brothers instead? ::)
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Shouldnt you go talk to your Boston Terrorist turban brothers instead? ::)
Once I get there, yes ;D
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boston terriers are my favorite breed
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Once I get there, yes ;D
Debussey will call "1-800-TerroristHotline" and have you arrested and harassed by the police ;D
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I'm visiting the grat city of boston in a week!!! Tell me about the hardcore gyms there great iron BROTHER!
:o :o :o
I live on the North Shore about 18 miles from the city, so i don't go lift in the city often. There is a Golds on Landsdowne St. right by Fenway Park. PM body88, it sounds like he is head of the tourism bureau. ;D What sights will you be seeing?
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Boston Harbor Hotel...right off Copley Square exit.....one of the best hotels I stay in
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Boston Harbor Hotel...right off Copley Square exit.....one of the best hotels I stay in
i lived at 90 commonwealth avenue for a few years while at harvard
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Do euro criminals use sling shots?
settle down.
whoaaaaaaaaaaaa
have you heard of "black market" you can get a lot of ILEGAL shit there, including guns...
Well, when a 250-lb man decides he wants to rape and kill my 120-lb wife, I'm sure she'll feel soooooo much better about the fact he doesn't have a gun. ::)
(of course, given that we don't live in socialist Europe, she does have one. ;))
Jeeze, fellas.
sar·casm [sahr-kaz-uhm]
–noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark.
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Jeeze, fellas.
sar·casm [sahr-kaz-uhm]
–noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark.
I understood your comment wasn't serious... my reply was aimed at those who would actually try to make that argument.
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my reply was aimed at those who would actually try to make that argument.
And that guy would be a clueless asshole.
Or European.
Wait.
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one million Americans have died in firearm-related homicides, suicides, and unintentional shootings since 1962. :o
i bet they all disagree with the fools on here.
from: "Fatal Firearm Injuries in the United States: 1962-1994," Violence Surveillance Summary Series, No. 3 (Atlanta: National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, 1997) and "Deaths: Final Data for 1995;" "Deaths: Final Data for 1996;" "Deaths: Final Data for 1997," National Vital Statistics Reports 47, no. 19 (1999).
According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.
In 91.7% of these incidents the defensive use of a gun did not wound or kill the criminal attacker (and the gun defense wouldn't be called "newsworthy" by newspaper or TV news editors).
http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/noframedex.html
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body88, I spent 41 of my 44 years in Boston. I know exactly what Boston (New England) weather is like and the summers are getting shorter and shorter while the winter (cold months) are getting longer. Boston still has occasional snow in March and April (I remember specifically getting 3 feet of snow on my daughters birthday in April). When I said fall lasts a week I was referring to the change in leaves colors. You blink, you miss it and don't tell me differently as I stated...I lived there. The 90 degree weather you are referring to comes as a heat wave and lasts maybe a week. Air is so thick you could cut it with a knife. The cold comes in mid September and by Halloween you have to bundle the kids in parkas so they don't freeze while trick or treating. I don't hate Boston (New England) and its nice to see changing seasons, but I'm done living 75% of my life in temperatures under 60 degrees.
As far as the pay, that would depend on what you are doing. I make far more per year than I did up there...which I thought was weird too, but like I said...it depends on your job. Even my sister who is a medical assistant and phlebotomist would make 2x more money here than in there.
You stated Florida is "backwoods" but the majority of people I have met down here...are from the North East...Boston, New York, New Jersey, etc. ;)
As far as the cleanliness. LMAO I started to say maybe Boston's focal point of places such as Government Center, Haymarket Square, etc would be kept clean...but then took it back because to me...they have always had trash and whatnot spew around. Back Bay is nice at times, but has it's moments as well. Let's talk about the neighboring towns such as Somerville, Chelsea, Charlestown, Roxbury, Mattapan, Lawrence, Dorchester, Revere, Lynn, Malden, Everett, ... cripes I could go on. Granted I don't live near near Florida's capital (Tallahassee) but the only place I have been told is a place you don't drive through due to "safety" considered "ghetto" is Belle Glades (and I'm sure some parts of Miami). Historically, yes it has beautiful architectural buildings...Florida's tropical buildings are beautiful as well. The pink, salmon, beige, cream colored stucco and clay roofs look amazing from the sky. Everything looks alive when flying into PBIA...while I cannot say the same about flying into Logan. Even the water looks different.
Everyone's opinion is obviously different. But having actually lived in both places, my opinion is that Florida is (for me) the best place to live.
This post is hilarious.....not even worth arguing with you. Back bay is ok 'sometimes", come on . The cities you listed are not even in Boston, so not sure what they have to do with Boston, like I said the run down areas are located outside the city. The winters are getting longer? Most of the people from Florida are from the northeast, and there is not a huge white trash population? Florida cities rival Boston architecture and history? You can make more money in one of the worst local economies in America? It's under sixty 70 percent of the time here? I don;t know your post is pretty extreme, and not very accurate.
What part of Boston did you live in? Btw, I have spent more time in major Florida cities than you have apparently. I know a thing or two about the state. I admit based on climate/tropical beaches Florida has Boston beat, but I'm not you can compare things like History, schools, hospitals, technology and carrer oppurtunies (post grad).
Just my .2 it's all subjective anyway.
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I think so as well. I've been a resident there for fifteen years. NYC is where I live. But Fl. is my home. Moved to WPB in 93. It was way before City Place. The only bar was Respectables. The Brass Ring is no doubt the best burger and beer joint on planet earth! Besides schwoogieville Riviera Beach. West Palm is killer! Lake Worth inlet man. One of the best surfing spots on the east coast.
Nice, we are talking about Boston....
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Nice, we are talking about Boston....
Thread is about which is the best place to live in the US, not where in Boston is the best place to live. ::)
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You said it babe!
Bay, was Boston to straight for you. Honest question, because most of the cities you listed have a large gay population? Oh, and heres a pretty picture of a MA beach for no reason to make my point. Still not sure you can rank Frisco so high if cleanliness and climate are major factors, oh well.
(http://z.about.com/d/gaytravel/1/7/J/1/-/-/provincetown_wellfleet_beach.jpg)
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Thread is about which is the best place to live in the US, not where in Boston is the best place to live. ::)
I see, good thing I was referring to a poster who agreed with a quote by bay - directed at my original post about Boston. The poster in question thought we where talking about NYC. For the record I wouldent argue Florida is about the best place to live based on climate, but IMO more factors come into play when claiming the best place to live in the USA.
Hope this helps.
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Bod88: 2x double posting meltdown
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Bod88: 2x double posting meltdown
Maybe, but I thought we where having a debate... I forgot, meltdown - team Nasser lolz lolz lolz
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Maybe, but I thought we where having a debate... I forgot, meltdown - team Nasser lolz lolz lolz
Jebus, screw team Natsser, you've been around for years, you should know this >:(
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I see, good thing I was referring to a poster who agreed with a quote by bay - directed at my original post about Boston. The poster in question thought we where talking about NYC.
Hope this helps.
Wrap your lips around the bong buddy............chill.
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Jebus, screw team Natsser, you've been around for years, you should know this >:(
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Sammich?
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Wrap your lips around the bong buddy............chill.
I'm chill, it's all in good fun. I'm just melting down tonight. Last time I smoked weed, I thought my feet fell off, I need a drink if anything.
I love debating crap, even if it's based soley of my opinion, and I sound like a yahoo.
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Sammich?
Yes! The old Mower. Dammit you old fag. Remember: Debussey DF = DF. You used to be around when Slick Ninja and Earl1972 were pwning eachother 8)
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I'm chill, it's all in good fun. I'm just melting down tonight. Last time I smoked weed, I thought my feet fell off, I need a drink if anything.
I love debating crap, even if it's based soley of my opinion, and I sound like a yahoo.
There is no debate, SoCal is where it's at. 8)
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Yes! The old Mower. Dammit you old fag. Remember: Debussey DF = DF. You used to be around when Slick Ninja and Earl1972 were pwning eachother 8)
Of course I remember, I was a DF supporter, and I still am.... I'm not immune to a good meltdown here and there....not to mention, my pro Boston rants are well documented.
break out the original shopped pics of Mower as a penis, then we can talk sammiches.
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There is no debate, SoCal is where it's at. 8)
True, I am a manhatten beach fan myself.
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Calamari cafe in the north end. They serve all their dishes right in the pan. Cooking place rocks! Sqid ink pasta with sqid bolognese! Sexy dish! Bad news for you dude? I'M STRAIGHT!!!!!! I'll fight my own battles! If we needed any shit from you we'd squeeze your head!
Settle down "chef"..........nobody was fighting your battle. From the anger in your post, you sound like you play the top in your manly relationship.
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Tried it in sixth grade, David Deerwester. My art teacher. First two handed blowey I ever recieved! Guy kept the change and everything! Forgot it even happened until my therapist dug it out of me. Great time, great memory! Nothing will ever compare to my babysitter though! Lori Romanoski. Anyone here victims of these two?
Romanoski sounds familiar...........blond e, double DD's, about 5'7", 125lbs? :o
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Romanoski sounds familiar...........blond e, double DD's, about 5'7", 125lbs? :o
Christ, I love skinny chicks with giant tits ( don't like bone racks though)...
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Theres more to a city than the weather. Im from Chicago and I feel that cities with winters have more "character". I'd take a city like Chicago,Boston, New york with real people and real neighborhoods over warm weather retirement community. Florida is nice, thats why people vacation there, but I wouldn't want to live there year round.
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Theres more to a city than the weather. Im from Chicago and I feel that cities with winters have more "character". I'd take a city like Chicago,Boston, New york with real people and real neighborhoods over warm weather retirement community. Florida is nice, thats why people vacation there, but I wouldn't want to live there year round.
Living in Florida is a tacit admission that you've given up.
If I could work it out. I'd live in NYC 9 months. LA 2 months and Saratoga 1 month.
Currently, I live in NYC 11 months. Saratoga 1 month.
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I'll chime in here...........I grew up in St. Louis, Missouri. It's a great place to raise a family. The winters are bone chiling cold and the summers are unbearingly humid and hot. However, Spring and Fall are very enjoyable and I miss those two midwest seasons. I spent 7 years in Colorado. Denver is probably one of the most underrated cities. I fucking LOVED IT! The weather is a lot like California save for winter time. I love nature and getting away from it all at times and there is nothing like getting lost in the Rocky Mountains. I've gotta say in the Midwest if you go for a drive outside St. Louis you'll see some major white trash towns. Not so in the West or atleast in Colorado. There is just not that backcountry trailer trash you see in the midwest. You drive down the highway in Colorado and it's beautiful scenery. You do the same in Missouri and it's fucking billboard after billboard and every other exit has a XXX video/porn shop nowadays. Denver is such a fun city and the single life is pretty good. It's still fairly affordable to live compared to say LA or Manhattan or other major metropolitan areas. Also Denver suburbs are a great place to raise a family. There is virtually no ghetto in Denver except for maybe parts of Aurora and a few other places. Nothing like St. Louis where you can wander one block over and be in the worst ghetto in the world.
I reside in Orange County right now. I don't know what to think. Everyone is beautiful and wealthy here. It's a great place to raise a family I guess. I keep bringing up family because that's the point I'm at in my life. I LOVE NYC only if I was single. I couldn't imagine how fucking fun it would be to live in NYC and be a young dumb full of cum 20-25 year old sharing a studio apartment with 3 other dudes or possibly a couple HOT CHICKS? LOL. I've been to FL and I would NEVER live there. There are a shit load of trashy people in most of the major cities. Miami is way too diverse for me. Northwest i.e. Oregon and Washington is some of the most beautiful country I've ever seen in my life. I don't think I'll ever move back to the midwest. There is just a different culture and outlook on life out here in the West. Something free and fresh.
I don't know how anyone could live in LA or San Francisco. As I get older and pretty much sick of people in general I find places like Idaho and Montana much more attractive. I think most of these discussions are biased because people are looking at things from different perspectives. Like I said if I was single there are a ton of places I'd live but being married would never EVER think of living there. I do know that from the few areas I've lived in so far in my life EVERYPLACE gets old no matter how beautiful and nice it is in the beginning. It's like a new car. The feeling ebbs and flows but for the most part the novelty wears off after a couple of years. Friends and family can make any place worthwhile. Things that are both absent in my life right now except for my gf. I'd live in North Dakota if my family and a great group of friends lived there.
I will say I've never been to Europe but will go and can't wait. I think Europeans are a nice change of pace compared to Americans. Europeans from my experience (having an immigrant father from western Europe) are much more sophisticated and informed than your average American. I can have some of the best political discussions and just general what's life all about discussions with my English/European/foreign friends than I can with my American counterparts. Just my experience though. To say Europeans are any less arrogant than Americans is laughable though as well.
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Whatabout Kentucky?
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Whatabout Kentucky?
It's a beautiful state and Louisville has a lot to offer. But lots of redneck hoosiers as well.
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It's a beautiful state and Louisville has a lot to offer. But lots of redneck hoosiers as well.
Isn't that the good part?
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Isn't that the good part?
I guess it depends on what you value more.
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This post is hilarious.....not even worth arguing with you. Back bay is ok 'sometimes", come on . The cities you listed are not even in Boston, so not sure what they have to do with Boston, like I said the run down areas are located outside the city. The winters are getting longer? Most of the people from Florida are from the northeast, and there is not a huge white trash population? Florida cities rival Boston architecture and history? You can make more money in one of the worst local economies in America? It's under sixty 70 percent of the time here? I don;t know your post is pretty extreme, and not very accurate.
What part of Boston did you live in? Btw, I have spent more time in major Florida cities than you have apparently. I know a thing or two about the state. I admit based on climate/tropical beaches Florida has Boston beat, but I'm not you can compare things like History, schools, hospitals, technology and carrer oppurtunies (post grad).
Just my .2 it's all subjective anyway.
Yeah, I'm sure my 40+ years up there are nothing compared to your...what twenty something? ::) Like I said...everyone opinion is different. Come back to me when you've spent 40 years up there and tell me how clean it is, how the weather is, how the economy is. (btw...you put words in my mouth-post and exagerated what I stated.) The cities I stated in my post are neighboring cities. Each one just about touches Boston. They are not "in" Boston...Boston is it's own city. They are the subs of Boston and have more problems then the subs of say (I'll list the big cities of FL) Tallahassee, Palm Beach, Orlando, Daytona, Tampa, Ft. Lauderdale and probably Miami. I also didn't state that Florida cities rival Boston architecture and history. Maybe you should read my post again. What the hell are you talking about regarding white trash population in Florida? ROFLMAO...your time must have been spent in more rural areas (dead center of Florida) and not in the major cities. While you were down here, did you speak to anyone? I've been living here over 3 years now and like I said, well over half the people I have met are from the North East. This state exploded in the last 10 years in population. I wonder where all the people came from and why? To be truthful, I hear the same story over and over again. Boston, New York, New Jersey, Penns., Conn., etc...all hating the winters, hating the weather and wanting to be somewhere warm and sunny. They don't call this the Sunshine state for nothing. ;)
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San Diego.
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Yeah, I'm sure my 40+ years up there are nothing compared to your...what twenty something? ::) Like I said...everyone opinion is different. Come back to me when you've spent 40 years up there and tell me how clean it is, how the weather is, how the economy is. (btw...you put words in my mouth-post and exagerated what I stated.) The cities I stated in my post are neighboring cities. Each one just about touches Boston.Every major city has certain sorrounding cities that are lower class, and what makes Boston unique is that none of those areas run in to the metro parts of Boston. They are not "in" Boston...Boston is it's own city. They are the subs of Boston and have more problems then the subs of say (I'll list the big cities of FL) Tallahassee, Palm Beach, Orlando, Daytona, Tampa, Ft. Lauderdale and probably Miami. I also didn't state that Florida cities rival Boston architecture and history. Maybe you should read my post again. What the hell are you talking about regarding white trash population in Florida? ROFLMAO...your time must have been spent in more rural areas (dead center of Florida) and not in the major cities. While you were down here, did you speak to anyone? I've been living here over 3 years now and like I said, well over half the people I have met are from the North East. This state exploded in the last 10 years in population. I wonder where all the people came from and why? To be truthful, I hear the same story over and over again. Boston, New York, New Jersey, Penns., Conn., etc...all hating the winters, hating the weather and wanting to be somewhere warm and sunny. They don't call this the Sunshine state for nothing. ;)
First off - you exaggerated heavily on your assessment of Boston weather.....I think you said the winters are somehow getting longer , its below 60 seventy percent of the time, warm weather is only in weekly spurts - ( it's been in the 80's for almost two months now) ::) You clearly didn't live within the city when you lived in MA, and if you did what part? I have been living in Boston for pretty much my entire life, and I guess things have changed vastly since you left, as pretty much nothing you said about the city is true. Also, I made the statement that in the major metro parts of the city, there is no "bad" areas. Unlike in other city's, where you run into bad neighboorhodds every other block. Miami and New York are notorious for this. Again, the cities you listed are the surrounding cities and the only thing they touch is a the far outskirts of Boston... Again, this is a rarity, and an asset of the city. I don't see how you cannot understand that you can walk from the waterfront downtown - Fenway across the city, and not run in to a single bad area. You can't do that in places like Miami or New York. Why are you leaving suburbs like Wellesley, Newton, Cambridge, Brighton and Lexington out of the disccussion? Not talking about Beacon hill, Back bay Copley or Newbury? Many of the highest income areas in America.....You said back bay was ok at times, right, some of the most expensive real estate in the country is like that for no reason!? MA is constantly ranked in the top 10 when it comes to median income.http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/28/real_estate/wealthiest_states/
As for major crime, Miami and Orlando have Boston beat by ALOT....and I can't compare the smaller cities you listed, because they are just that small cities. Thats like comparing apples to grape fruits.
Again, as far as climate goes - Florida has Boston beat. But thats pretty much it. I have been to Tampa, Miami, Orlando, Sarasota, Hollywood, Ft Lauderdale, Clear Water and Jacksonville.... I know about the backwoods population that lives in the suburbs of cities like Tampa. I have been going to these places ( especially Miami) for a lot longer than 3 years. Miami is a wonderful city, and all the money is concentrated in a few areas, people don't know about the other side of Miami, when you get off the beach, Ocean or Collins. Do you know that Miami is considered to be one of the top cities in America when it comes to violence and murder? Also, the housing economy, and local economy in many parts of Florida are shot. Higher gas prices mean less tourists = bad economy, and it's not getting better. Shit, there are entire cities in Florida based on sports teams spring training. The city the redsox train in depends on them to run their economy. I am willing to bet most of the people you meet in Florida already earned the bulk of thier money in a city like NYC or Boston.
It's all subjective, but the best place to live in America needs more than a great climate IMO. I didn't say Boston was the best btw, I said it was top five.
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Floridas a pretty interesting place. Two fun places that I enjoyed were Key West and Sanibel Island. Everyone should check out the Keys at least once. Anyone else been to these places?
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First off - you exaggerated heavily on your assessment of Boston weather.....I think you said the winters are somehow getting longer , its below 60 seventy percent of the time, warm weather is only in weekly spurts - ( it's been in the 80's for almost two months now) ::) You clearly didn't live within the city when you lived in MA, and if you did what part? I have been living in Boston for pretty much my entire life, and I guess things have changed vastly since you left, as pretty much nothing you said about the city is true. Also, I made the statement that in the major metro parts of the city, there is no "bad" areas. Unlike in other city's, where you run into bad neighboorhodds every other block. Miami and New York are notorious for this. Again, the cities you listed are the surrounding cities and the only thing they touch is a the far outskirts of Boston... Again, this is a rarity, and an asset of the city. I don't see how you cannot understand that you can walk from the waterfront downtown - Fenway across the city, and not run in to a single bad area. You can't do that in places like Miami or New York. I cannot understandwhy you are leaving suburbs like Wellesley, Newton, Cambridge and Lexington out of the disccussion? Not talking about Beacon hill, Back bay Copley or Newbury? many of the richest areas in the country.....You said back bay was ok at times, right, some of the most expensive real estate in the country is like that for no reason!?
As for major crime, Miami and Orlando have Boston beat by ALOT....and I can't compare the smaller cities you listed, because they are just that small cities. Thats like comparing apples to grape fruits.
Again, as far as climate goes - Florida has Boston beat. But thats pretty much it. I have been to Tampa, Miami, Orlando, Sarasota, Hollywood, Ft Lauderdale, Clear Water and Jacksonville.... I know about the backwoods population that lives in the suburbs of cities like Tampa. I have been going to these places ( especially Miami) for a lot longer than 3 years. Miami is a wonderful city, and all the money is concentrated in a few areas, people don't know about the other side of Miami, when you get off the beach, Ocean or Collins. Do you know that Miami is considered to be one of the top cities in America when it comes to violence and murder? Also, the housing economy, and local economy in many parts of Florida are shot. Higher gas prices mean less tourists = bad economy, and it's not getting better. Shit, there are entire cities in Florida based on sports teams spring training. The city the redsox train in depends on them to run their economy. I am willing to bet most of the people you meet in Florida already earned the bulk of thier money in a city like NYC or Boston.
It's all subjective, but the best place to live in America needs more than a great climate IMO. I didn't;t say Boston was the best btw, I said it was top five.
Dude are you high?/have you ever lived/even seen Boston?
Combat Zone
China Town
Fenway area after dark
lol..................i dare you to walk thru those crime-infested filthy dirty areas
Boston = sux
Florida = doesn't sux
Boston's summers last all of 2 months (July Aug)
it's winters all the rest
Boston cold starts Sept 1st ...and ends July 1st
10 months of bitter ice ice cold ("whiteouts"....shoveling your car out....frozen car locks....deicer......san d in the car/snow tires.....)
the winter before we finally left Boston i was on my way home from work (late nite),it was a blizzard "Whiteout" conditions......a snow plow ran me into the guardrail and off the road/highway
that was "it" for me
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My simple rule of thumb...
anywhere where you have your windshield wipers on at the same time as your A/C...equals not a good place to live, for me. ;)
Sorry, but I sweat enough in dry desert heat :-\
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After 11 pages a mod decides to move this thread. WTF? Talk about asleep at the swtich... ::)
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Dude are you high?/have you ever lived/even seen Boston?
Combat Zone
China Town
Fenway area after dark
lol..................i dare you to walk thru those crime-infested filthy dirty areas
Boston = sux
Florida = doesn't sux
Boston's summers last all of 2 months (July Aug)
it's winters all the rest
Boston cold starts Sept 1st ...and ends July 1st
10 months of bitter ice ice cold ("whiteouts"....shoveling your car out....frozen car locks....deicer......san d in the car/snow tires.....)
the winter before we finally left Boston i was on my way home from work (late nite),it was a blizzard "Whiteout" conditions......a snow plow ran me into the guardrail and off the road/highway
that was "it" for me
Have I lived in Boston? Yes, I have lived on Beacon Hill, in Back Bay, the North end and also the downtown area. Currently I live in the city. Have you ever lived in the City, and no a city 8 miles outside city limits is not Boston. Have you ever lived in teh back bay, or any other areas within the city?
Combat Zone
Your talking about China town. Not anymore, there are many new businesses and resteraunts in the area since it was cleaned up. The "combat zone" is deep in Roxbury, far outside the parameters of the actual city. You understand that Bostons recent gun control programs where adopted by a ton of different states in the country, including Florida.
China Town
See above
Fenway area after dark
What? Most of the Redsox players live in the Fenway area.... and it's about 95 percent college students these days. I can name 5 colleges less than 2 miles from Fenway. BU, Northeastern, Emmanuel, Simmons and Suffolk. A studio goes for about 1200 per month without utilities in that area. Also, why are you leaving out the wealthy areas of Boston like Beacon Hill, Copley, The West end, Back Bay and now the North End. Thats pretty much every major area of Boston. Shit, since the big dig (and the new parks it brought to the weaterfront, housing prices have skyroceted in the North end.
lol..................i dare you to walk thru those crime-infested filthy dirty areas
You don't know what your talking about here, I was in china town recently at News, one of the best after hours resteraunts in the city. Also, I go to Tufts medical center to see a primay physician when I'm sick, which forces me to walk all over the area.China town was cleaned up long ago, and was the last crime riddled area within the city to be douched. Like I said - in METRO BOSTON, there is pretty much no bad area's since Menino cleaned up china town. The crime rates are lower in Boston than in Orlando and Miami, and as a state it's lower here in MA
Boston = sux
Not according to CNN ( which lists it top five in Median income year after year), The thousands of people who come here to utalize the cancer facilities, the hundreads of thousands of out of state college students who come to the school, and the millions of tourists who visit the city..... also, Forbes magazine just named Boston the most technologically advanced city in America. Where does Florida rank? Maybe it sucks to a person that lifts weights all day, but saying it sucks is laughable..... If you ever get cancer ( God Forbid), you will come to Boston to be treated.
Florida = doesn't sux
The climate doesen't suck at all, but the economy, crime rates in major metro areas, the mosquitoes and the housing market does.
Boston's summers last all of 2 months (July Aug)
False, it last for three months June - Aug.... But it starts getting warm in May - we had many 80+ degree days in early may this year, and typically are still in the high 70's come early September
it's winters all the rest
No, it's winter from Nov - march. There is also a time called spring and fall.
Boston cold starts Sept 1st ...and ends July 1st
Blatant lies
10 months of bitter ice ice cold ("whiteouts"....shoveling your car out....frozen car locks....deicer......san d in the car/snow tires.....)
the winter before we finally left Boston i was on my way home from work (late nite),it was a blizzard "Whiteout" conditions......a snow plow ran me into the guardrail and off the road/highway
that was "it" for me
Thats to bad, but we don't have ten months of bitter ice cold, unless you rewrote weather patterns.[/quote]
The only thing Florida has on Boston is a great climate, it's economy is based on tourism - ( which is in the shitter), and the vast majority of the successful people that have homes there made there fortune in cities like NYC, Boston and Chicago. Mike, Florida is a great place, but it's median income is lower than MA, the hospitals are not even close to as good, the schools arent as good, people make more money here, and the crime rates are lower. Plus not everyone likes humid heat all year, I like to ski, snowboard and have a white Christmas! The stats I listed are facts, your opinion is valid and I understand where you are coming from, but you don't seem to have much knowledge regarding some of the things that make Boston a top city. It's more than the weather....
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lol!
we disagree on what makes a great city is all
i like warm weather.....Laura in a bikini and riding motorcycles year round
you like better jobs,higher income,better hospitals.schools etc
nobody is right or wrong here (just different tastes)
I'm superficial and narrcassistic .........and your not!
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lol!
we disagree on what makes a great city is all
i like warm weather.....Laura in a bikini and riding motorcycles year round
you like better jobs,higher income,better hospitals.schools etc
nobody is right or wrong here (just different tastes)
I'm superficial and narrcassistic .........and your not!
I agree, just making some points man! I like the things you like, but my job is so demanding that I can't do them as much as I want to. I hope to buy a home in Hollywood (Florida) on day, and visit more. I couldent live there year round, but I like to visit.
I will be in Miami come early september at the Delano, do you live near there?
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I agree, just making some points man! I like the things you like, but my job is so demanding that I can't do them as much as I want to. I hope to buy a home in Hollywood (Florida) on day, and visit more. I couldent live there year round, but I like to visit.
I will be in Miami come early september at the Delano, do you live near there?
half hour 45 mins away (let me kno when ur down!)
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Floridas a pretty interesting place. Two fun places that I enjoyed were Key West and Sanibel Island. Everyone should check out the Keys at least once. Anyone else been to these places?
Did you see Stilt City in the Keys. They are houses built on stilts out in the water. People get around by walking on the coral reefs. Very unique.
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The town I grew up in (my parents and sisters still live there), North Haven, CT, was recently voted amoung the "Top 50 places to live in US" by US News & World Report, I believe
I live in Mystic and just finished school in Branford, New Haven stinks and have a few friends in North Haven, they seem to like it
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Did you see Stilt City in the Keys. They are houses built on stilts out in the water. People get around by walking on the coral reefs. Very unique.
Yea I saw Stilt City briefly. Pretty interesting way to live
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San Antonio or the east coast of Texas in the early winter (Nov-Jan)
Either coast of Florida (Feb-Jun)
South or east coast of Spain, Montreal, Can. or Corfu, Greece (July-Oct)
HM's choice based on experience.
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I still don't know of any place on earth that is better to live in than Hawaii. If you can afford to retire there it is best.
I think a person is is 100% retired that this would be an awesome place to live. You get to travel around the world and see places different all the time. This would be perfect
http://www.aboardtheworld.com/ (http://www.aboardtheworld.com/)
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I still don't know of any place on earth that is better to live in than Hawaii. If you can afford to retire there it is best.
I think a person is is 100% retired that this would be an awesome place to live. You get to travel around the world and see places different all the time. This would be perfect
http://www.aboardtheworld.com/ (http://www.aboardtheworld.com/)
I agree. Not even close. The people, weather, ocean, mountains, culture, food, and overall way of life are superb. I wouldn't live anyplace else in the U.S.
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Chicago sales tax hits 10.25% tomorrow! ::)
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My favourite place ive been to in America is Vegas. If i was forecd to pick a US city, it'd be Vegas.
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Chicago sales tax hits 10.25% tomorrow! ::)
Are you kidding? :o
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no
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Floridas a pretty interesting place. Two fun places that I enjoyed were Key West and Sanibel Island. Everyone should check out the Keys at least once. Anyone else been to these places?
I've never been to the Keys but I went to Sanibel once... Was only there for a weekend and it was red tide so I can't give a fair assessment of the place.
A few places that seem as though they'd be great to live in would be Naples, FL, Denver, Co, Laguna Beach, CA, Scottsdale, AZ and Aspen, Co.
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I lived in Florida for 18 months, wasn't my scene. Spent months in Vegas once, enjoyed that. I've been to maybe 25 states or so, and would say as a vistor Hawaii seems best to me, Seattle is also cool - but of course living somewhere is different from visiting it.
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Anyone here in Montana?
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Anyone here in Montana?
Went skiing there once. We stayed in Whitefish and downhill skied on Big Mountain (I think that's what it was called). We also went cross-country skiing for the first time ever in Glacier National Park. Montana was beautiful.
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Chicago seemed really nice too. Nice city.
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Chicago seemed really nice too. Nice city.
You've obviously never lived there. ::)
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You've obviously never lived there. ::)
lol, no. Purely made from a tourist point of view...
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Some nice places I've seen: Winston-Salem, NC; Warrenton, VA; Portland, OR; and Seattle, WA. None of them compare to Hawaii, but they are nice places.
I was recently in San Diego and I have to say that place has really gotten ugly. Doesn't seem like it ever recovered from the drought years ago. Very brown. And the smog is awful.
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Went skiing there once. We stayed in Whitefish and downhill skied on Big Mountain (I think that's what it was called). We also went cross-country skiing for the first time ever in Glacier National Park. Montana was beautiful.
I wanna live in A River Runs Through It.
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USA #1....
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Not a real expert but as an outsider, I very much like the bay area (especially Sau Salito, worked there for a couple of weeks). I also like Austin and San Antonio. I would generally prefer small towns over the big cities in the US.
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I was recently in San Diego and I have to say that place has really gotten ugly. Doesn't seem like it ever recovered from the drought years ago. Very brown. And the smog is awful.
really beach. I was born and raised there and moved away in 90 and have been back about 10 times since I moved away. Last time I was there was in April 05. I was there just for my daughters godmothers wedding. I'm heading out there at the end of August for my 20 year reunion. Thats super sad to hear. I loved growing up there. I'll be looking to see what kind of paralegal work there is, because I would love to move back there with my little one
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really beach. I was born and raised there and moved away in 90 and have been back about 10 times since I moved away. Last time I was there was in April 05. I was there just for my daughters godmothers wedding. I'm heading out there at the end of August for my 20 year reunion. Thats super sad to hear. I loved growing up there. I'll be looking to see what kind of paralegal work there is, because I would love to move back there with my little one
Newmom I've spent a lot of time there too over the years and the change has been pretty stark. My view is influenced by the fact I live in a place that has clean/clear air, plenty of rain, lots of green, etc. Someone who lives in Dallas, Chicago, NYC, etc. might think San Diego is beautiful.
The smog has gotten very bad. It used to be pretty much confined to L.A., but now it's all over San Diego. Even at the beach.
I'd live in Coronado, La Jolla, or any of the coastal towns (Solana Beach, Cardiff, etc.), but inland isn't very nice IMO.
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Booooo. I could come up with a better list. :)
America's Best Places to Raise a Family
By Zack O'Malley Greenburg, Forbes.com
Jul 2nd, 2008
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Great schools, low crime and a desirable cost of living are among the qualities that make these 20 spots fine for folks and their kids.
Steve Schwartz and his wife, Lori, have spent the last 30 years running Schwartz's Bait and Tackle in Noblesville, Ind. Just 15 miles north of downtown Indianapolis, they sell fishing equipment and rent canoes to locals like Indianapolis Colts kicker Adam Vinatieri and former Formula One racer Derek Daly.
They've also discovered something most Americans are still searching for: the ideal place to raise a family. Their sons, Pete and Eddie, 26 and 22, who still help out at the store, are the products of an idyllic upbringing in Hamilton County,
"It's the best of the best," says the 47-year-old Schwartz, also a Hamilton County councilman, referring to the area and its quaint hamlets, low crime and desirable cost of living. "It's a great place to raise your family. It's safe, it's fun, it's affordable and it's growing."
In Pictures: America’s Best Places To Raise A Family
It's qualities like these that landed Hamilton County atop Forbes' list. Ozaukee County, Wis., and Johnson County, Kan. came in second and third. Rounding out the top five? Geauga and Delaware Counties in Ohio. Chester County, Pa., and Hunterdon County, N.J. placed in the top ten. All earn high marks for their low cost of living, reasonably priced homes and short commute times. They also offer terrific schools, one of the most important characteristics to consider when choosing a place to raise a family.
"What parents need to look for are communities that have the resources to promote physical, social and cognitive development," says Dr. Margo Napoletano, a San Diego-based psychologist with 20 years of experience specializing in children and their families. "This includes a strong school system that provides after-school programs."
Behind The Numbers
Forbes' rankings are skewed toward counties with good school districts. Using research provided by the Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan tax research group based in Washington, D.C., we started with a list of the nation's counties with populations over 65,000. To eliminate under-funded school districts, we isolated 97 counties where more than half of per-pupil spending comes from property taxes.
Next, we knocked off all the counties with average SAT scores under 1,050 (math and verbal combined) or average ACT scores under 22, leaving us with 51 counties.
Raising a happy family requires more than just a good school system. With that in mind, we ranked the remaining counties using 10 data points: cost of living, graduation rate, standardized scores, home price, property tax rate as a percentage of median home price, percentage of homes occupied by owner, per-capita income, air quality, crime rate and commute time.
A long commute "can certainly contribute to stress on a family," says Napoletano. "If you come home and the kids are already in bed, that detracts from family life, both psychologically and economically, especially considering today's gas prices."
Some of the most posh counties in the nation didn't make the cut because their rankings were tainted by outrageous home prices or lengthy commutes. Westchester County, N.Y., home to ritzy enclaves like Chappaqua and Scarsdale, was sunk by a 31-minute average commute time and a median home price approaching $600,000. Fairfax County, Va., suffered a similar fate.
Other swank suburbs made our list. Because of an outstanding school system and abundant employment opportunities, Marin County, Calif., cracked the top 20 despite a whopping median home price of $901,900. Montgomery County, Pa., famous for its sumptuous Main Line suburbs and the King of Prussia Mall, made the top 10 with solid scores across the board and a median home price less than a third of Marin's.
There are, of course, scores of other, more personal factors to consider: political atmosphere, religious climate, proximity to friends and family, and community personality, to name a few. But don't forget the obvious ones.
"Consider parks, consider recreation programs, consider shopping malls," says Napoletano. "Teenagers love to hang out with their friends at shopping malls. That can promote social development too."
http://promo.realestate.yahoo.com/americas-best-places-to-raise-a-family.html
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Newmom I've spent a lot of time there too over the years and the change has been pretty stark. My view is influenced by the fact I live in a place that has clean/clear air, plenty of rain, lots of green, etc. Someone who lives in Dallas, Chicago, NYC, etc. might think San Diego is beautiful.
The smog has gotten very bad. It used to be pretty much confined to L.A., but now it's all over San Diego. Even at the beach.
I'd live in Coronado, La Jolla, or any of the coastal towns (Solana Beach, Cardiff, etc.), but inland isn't very nice IMO.
Aww Coronado, my old stomping ground and ate plenty of meals at the night and day cafe. LaJolla was where I spent my entire junior and high school life. I ditched many a days from Mira Mesa High (when it was nice) to be at the beach. I still think San Diego is great.
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Aww Coronado, my old stomping ground and ate plenty of meals at the night and day cafe. LaJolla was where I spent my entire junior and high school life. I ditched many a days from Mira Mesa High (when it was nice) to be at the beach. I still think San Diego is great.
Parts of it are okay, but I have a hard time getting past the smog and change from green to brown. The weather seems to have changed too. It used to have some of the best weather in the world. Stayed around low to mid 70s most of the year. They have more extremes now.
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Good to know, I still cant wait to go for a whole 10 days. Cant wait to go to disneyland, zoo and sea world. Havent been to those places in about 20 years. I know my little one is going to have a ball. Cant be any more extreme than humid east coast
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Sure... most of them. Total taxes on income tend to be 45-55%, they there's a VAT tax on everything you buy in the 20-25% range.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_of_Europe
(oh, and that doesn't include real estate taxes). ::)
You're surely not trying to claim taxes in Europe aren't significantly higher than they are in America, are you? ::)
Just because I saw this:
1.) You cannot add income tax and VAT (e.g. 50% income tax + 20% VAT does not equal 70% tax). In this case it would be 58.333% because the 20% VAT is payed only from what is left after income tax.
2.) Most of those income tax numbers are the maximum rate which you only pay for a certain amount of income (not a flat tax, this is only mentioned for a few countries in the Wiki article, but most likely applies to all countries). The real income tax will always be below that. Only if you are in the +100.000 Euro/year range, you will come close. In this case however, you will more likely get at least part of your income from dividend payouts or bonuses, which are usually taxed lower.
3.) The VAT numbers are also maximum numbers. In Austria e.g. the 20% does not apply to groceries, books, transportation, cultural events, etc., which are only taxed 10%. Again, this is only mentioned for a few countries in the Wiki article.
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Which is the best place to live in the us?
Very underrated topic!
Twelve pages of people posting proves that.
I just would like to mention something to those people who still reside in the Los Angeles area region.
Are any of you folks still living inside the LA County area or are people very familiar with Los Angeles and it's surrounding areas have been able to vernture out into suburbs such as Pomona, Yorba Linda, Covina, Fontana, Corona, or Rialto.
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Which is the best place to live in the us?
Very underrated topic!
Twelve pages of people posting proves that.
I just would like to mention something to those people who still reside in the Los Angeles area region.
Are any of you folks still living inside the LA County area or are people very familiar with Los Angeles and it's surrounding areas have been able to vernture out into suburbs such as Pomona, Yorba Linda, Covina, Fontana, Corona, or Rialto.
LA is a shithole plain and simple!
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Are any of you folks still living inside the LA County area or are people very familiar with Los Angeles and it's surrounding areas have been able to vernture out into suburbs such as Pomona, Fontana, or Rialto.
Is this still considered American land?
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North-Dakota fucktards.
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North-Dakota fucktards.
Is this a local football team?