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Title: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ???
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 12:48:04 PM
Another falacy. I see many skinny fat tools performing endless set of this useless exercise.

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Post by: Pete Nice on June 29, 2008, 12:49:56 PM
haha....they think it's gonna give them a "super-ripped" six pack like Brad Pitt
Title: Re: Dumbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: dr.chimps on June 29, 2008, 12:50:16 PM
Another falacy. I see many skinny fat tools performing endless set of this useless exercise.


Gotta agree, here. Lotsa girls do this at my place. Even worse, seen them doing it with a dumbbell in each hand!
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 12:52:17 PM
haha....they think it's gonna give them a "super-ripped" six pack like Brad Pitt

hahahaha I laugh hard and shake my head quite frequently....

in the same vein as the celebrated 95lb "clean and jerk"

"Because I saw it in 'Mussel and fitness'  & Men's ""Health"" magazine ".... ::)
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Croatch on June 29, 2008, 12:59:26 PM
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YOU FAIL!
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 01:00:42 PM
YOU FAIL!

;D

What's your training split like these days Croatch?

Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Camel Jockey on June 29, 2008, 01:02:28 PM
Most people who have abs don't really do more than situps and crunches.

But you'll see idiots doing a bunch of elaborate shit only to have guts.  ;D
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Bast000 on June 29, 2008, 01:03:40 PM
haha, that and 'broom twists'

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Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: BFP on June 29, 2008, 01:20:39 PM
Another falacy. I see many skinny fat tools performing endless set of this useless exercise.



Alex, if youre serious abut taking up powerlifting, you will dig these.  Great for the abdominal strength it takes to stabilize huge weights.

Jason
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 01:22:09 PM
Alex, if youre serious abut taking up powerlifting, you will dig these.  Great for the abdominal strength it takes to stabilize huge weights.

Jason

I'm serious. The problem is I'm not ready for the gayness associated with performing these ;D
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2008, 01:23:25 PM
I'm a skinny fat tool.  However I like these at the end of back workouts.  They make the rib cage/serratus sore for days when done slow, high-reps with a 45-pound grip plate in the hand.  I know they're supposed to work the obliques, but I'm not trying to win any Bbing shows, just get bigger, so a slightly bigger waist doesn't bother me.   Does it help on bigger movements like squat and DL? I dunno.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: BFP on June 29, 2008, 01:33:10 PM
I'm serious. The problem is I'm not ready for the gayness associated with performing these ;D

NO one will think its gay....no one understands  how we train anyway ;D

I'm a skinny fat tool.  However I like these at the end of back workouts.  They make the rib cage/serratus sore for days when done slow, high-reps with a 45-pound grip plate in the hand.  I know they're supposed to work the obliques, but I'm not trying to win any Bbing shows, just get bigger, so a slightly bigger waist doesn't bother me.   Does it help on bigger movements like squat and DL? I dunno.

Im just a fat tool, but I will tell you 100% it helps with the squat and deadlift.  Obliques are the most important abdominal muscle group fo rhitting big weights, IMHO.

Jason

Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 01:35:08 PM
NO one will think its gay....no one understands  how we train anyway ;D

Im just a fat tool, but I will tell you 100% it helps with the squat and deadlift.  Obliques are the most important abdominal muscle group fo rhitting big weights, IMHO.

Jason

If you were squatting only 790 you would be a tool but by crossing the 800lb barrier, tool no more ;D

I guess I've spoken too fast... maybe it would help with my back issues...
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on June 29, 2008, 01:49:06 PM
I do them with a kettlebell. nonstop just keep switching hands for about 5 sets of 20 each side. closest i can simulate to getting rolled on by black teenagers.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: mesmorph78 on June 29, 2008, 02:17:02 PM
personally i think side bends are counter productive... if you want a thick wide waiste...
ant its always the "thicker" guys i see doing it
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: HTexan on June 29, 2008, 02:53:08 PM
personally i think side bends are counter productive... if you want a thick wide waiste...
ant its always the "thicker" guys i see doing it
it's working ;D
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 03:40:16 PM
personally i think side bends are counter productive... if you want a thick wide waiste...
ant its always the "thicker" guys i see doing it

JPegg resents that ;D
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Moosejay on June 29, 2008, 04:40:14 PM
Twists gave me phenomenal intercostal/serrati
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: dr.chimps on June 29, 2008, 04:46:46 PM
Twists gave me phenomenal intercostal/serrati
I'll take your word for it Moose. I do 100 to finish my workouts, just to keep my dicey lower back flexible. Seems to work better than hypers for me. 
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 04:47:05 PM
Twists gave me phenomenal intercostal/serrati

That I will believe and immitate.

Are you back in the gym moose? you know you're like a father to many of us....
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Moosejay on June 29, 2008, 04:51:31 PM
I'll take your word for it Moose. I do 100 to finish my workouts, just to keep my dicey lower back flexible. Seems to work better than hypers for me. 

Yes, you must bend over a bit to avoid imbricating (grinding) the spinal joints together.

At 21 (probably my most ripped ever, before I tried to get 'big'), I was doing 1,000 twists a day for 6 weeks.

Crazy, excessive...yes, what did I know?
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Moosejay on June 29, 2008, 04:53:11 PM
That I will believe and immitate.

Are you back in the gym moose? you know you're like a father to many of us....

Hello, son! :)

No, Alex, can't lift for foreseeable future.

Amazingly, I am scheduled for more surgery this Thursday.

Now I will have time again to direct some vitriolic posts from my 1000+ photo archive towards some who, I feel, deserve it!
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 04:57:27 PM
Hello, son! :)

No, Alex, can't lift for foreseeable future.
Amazingly, I am scheduled for more surgery this Thursday.
Now I will have time again to direct some vitriolic posts from my 1000+ photo archive towards some who, I feel, deserve it!

God bless a true American Hero going under the knife eve of the greatest nation's celebration.

We'll send you positive energy comes thursday and have quite a few in your honor.

I expect you to be back on the keyboard and posting vigorously some sunday at the latest 8)

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Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Moosejay on June 29, 2008, 05:00:56 PM
God bless a true American Hero going under the knife even of the greatest nation's celebration.

We'll send you positive energy comes thursday and have quite a few in your honor.

I expect you to be back on the keyboard and posting vigorously some sunday at the latest 8)

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Ha!

I will have my laptop in the hospital.

I have been dieting hard for about 7 weeks....and have shed about 28 pounds, altho I am now skinny fat with no lifting!

But, the following day, if I am released from hospital, I am going to treat myself to some barbecue!

Thanks for your well wishes
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: onlyme on June 29, 2008, 05:12:23 PM
haha, that and 'broom twists'

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I remember in 80 or 81 or so Chris Dickerson was 40 lbs heavy just as he started training for the Olympia.  He would do 45 minutes non-stop twists.  If you do them right with your head facing forward at all times and twist till the end of the stick is facing forward without turning anything but your shoulders they work.  They were a staple of ab training back in the 70's and 80's.  Plus they keep you loose.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Croatch on June 29, 2008, 05:20:19 PM
;D

What's your training split like these days Croatch?


haha, Yes, complete fail for this guy :D  One that works well, single arm side crunches, using a cable.  Best for obliques.
My split now:
Chest/Tris
Hamstrings/Calves
off
Biceps/Forearms
Shoulders/Traps
off
Quads
Back
off
repeat
8 day split.  As with any routine, it's all diet, which I don't need to tell you.  All the supersets and strange routines are such a fraction of your gains.  If I'm going for size, I'll use more compound movements and take back cardio a bit...that's about it.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Moosejay on June 29, 2008, 05:20:50 PM
I remember in 80 or 81 or so Chris Dickerson was 40 lbs heavy just as he started training for the Olympia.  He would do 45 minutes non-stop twists.  If you do them right with your head facing forward at all times and twist till the end of the stick is facing forward without turning anything but your shoulders they work.  They were a staple of ab training back in the 70's and 80's.  Plus they keep you loose.

True...altho I never knew Dickerson got that far out of shape
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Post by: onlyme on June 29, 2008, 05:25:00 PM
True...altho I never knew Dickerson got that far out of shape

Well I was sitting right next to him doing roman chairs while he was doing twists and that is what he told us he was overweight.  Never thought about it being false or whatever. 
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 05:34:33 PM
haha, Yes, complete fail for this guy :D  One that works well, single arm side crunches, using a cable.  Best for obliques.
My split now:
Chest/Tris
Hamstrings/Calves
off
Biceps/Forearms
Shoulders/Traps
off
Quads
Back
off
repeat
8 day split.  As with any routine, it's all diet, which I don't need to tell you.  All the supersets and strange routines are such a fraction of your gains.  If I'm going for size, I'll use more compound movements and take back cardio a bit...that's about it.

Nice routine, I really like it. Very well balanced and no re-impact on the muscle previously trained to slow down recuperation. You know your stuff. I think I will hit this split starting tomorow. Do you mind if I borrow?

I bet this prioritizes arms pretty good as well, which I need badly.

A true natural with 18" arms. 200lb lean at 5'8". Top Achiever, plain and simple.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2008, 05:42:01 PM
True...altho I never knew Dickerson got that far out of shape

Correct.  He and Bob Paris used to do cardio together every night.  They were both very lean back then.  I'm guessing they both put in a lot of hours.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Moosejay on June 29, 2008, 05:45:05 PM
Correct.  He and Bob Paris used to do cardio together every night.  They were both very lean back then.  I'm guessing they both put in a lot of hours.

Yes, considering early 80's cardio was not that in vogue
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Post by: mass 04 on June 29, 2008, 08:03:50 PM
Correct.  He and Bob Paris used to do cardio together every night.  They were both very lean back then.  I'm guessing they both put in a lot of hours.
are you saying "bedroom gymnastics" was their cardio method of choice?
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Alex23 on June 29, 2008, 08:14:47 PM
are you saying "bedroom gymnastics" was their cardio method of choice?

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Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: Croatch on June 30, 2008, 01:01:05 PM
Nice routine, I really like it. Very well balanced and no re-impact on the muscle previously trained to slow down recuperation. You know your stuff. I think I will hit this split starting tomorow. Do you mind if I borrow?

I bet this prioritizes arms pretty good as well, which I need badly.

A true natural with 18" arms. 200lb lean at 5'8". Top Achiever, plain and simple.
Real lean, I'd say 17".  Plus, due to my oversized head...that gives me another 5lb edge.  Thanks bro.
I find the routine to be decent.  I used to train legs all one day, but this obviously allows for more sets, and no quad fatigue when doing calves.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: The Coach on June 30, 2008, 01:05:45 PM
Alex, if youre serious abut taking up powerlifting, you will dig these.  Great for the abdominal strength it takes to stabilize huge weights.

Jason

Yep, also helps correct any imbalances that will help keep injuries to a minimum.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: sinbad on June 30, 2008, 06:52:22 PM
personally i think side bends are counter productive... if you want a thick wide waiste...
ant its always the "thicker" guys i see doing it

Yeah, I stopped doing them, just seemed to make my obliques bigger.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ??????????????????????????????????????????????
Post by: swilkins1984 on June 30, 2008, 06:58:30 PM
I remember in 80 or 81 or so Chris Dickerson was 40 lbs heavy just as he started training for the Olympia.  He would do 45 minutes non-stop twists.  If you do them right with your head facing forward at all times and twist till the end of the stick is facing forward without turning anything but your shoulders they work.  They were a staple of ab training back in the 70's and 80's.  Plus they keep you loose.

I do those almost every workout. At first I thought they were something chicks do. Great for abs and lower back, buts also stretches the chest and delts well.
Title: Re: Dumbbell "side crunch/bend" ???
Post by: lift 456 on June 30, 2008, 07:35:57 PM
gayer than fisting with your friends out of curiousity.