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Title: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 12:14:35 PM
on every piece of government id and bank cards?

This video may not be the answer but it brings up interesting points. Its a Canadian version buts holds true for Americans as well. I called my bank and asked them why my name is in all capitals when thats is not how I sign or print my name. They put me on hold for 10 minutes and when they got back on the phone asked me why I wanted to know. I told them it was simply out of curiosity. They put me on hold again for what seemed like forever and when they came back they explained it's for "user friendliness", to make it easier for people to read the name on the card. I asked for some documentation from any of their bank books that would swear to this. They couldn't find it. Im still waiting for an explaination.

Anyone else have any idea's?

Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 30, 2008, 01:48:42 PM
This video was design for the easily convinced smack heads like yourself.

The reason for upper case is usability and accessibility.

A lot of data for instance in a database is normalised, as is the case here.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on June 30, 2008, 01:57:29 PM
This video was design for the easily convinced smack heads like yourself.

The reason for upper case is usability and accessibility.

A lot of data for instance in a database is normalised, as is the case here.
Nordic, I'm a bit confused.  You always say you're a liberal.  I'm just wondering why so many of your posts are attacks on anything or anybody left of center.  I've heard of closet gays but never really seen a closet righty...  :-\
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 30, 2008, 02:00:04 PM
Nordic, I'm a bit confused.  You always say you're a liberal.  I'm just wondering why so many of your posts are attacks on anything or anybody left of center.  I've heard of closet gays but never really seen a closet righty...  :-\

When the insanity and delusion is THIS obvious I will call it as it is.

Fuck it, call me a neo conservative for all I care, just don't forget to wear your tin foil hat when you read your phone bill with "HUGO CHAVEZ" (the slave) instead of "Hugo Chavez" (the man).
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 02:06:16 PM
This video was design for the easily convinced smack heads like yourself.

The reason for upper case is usability and accessibility.

A lot of data for instance in a database is normalised, as is the case here.

What makes it so unaccessable and unusable to have it printed in Capital and lower case? im just asking questions, I'd appreciate it if you could answer in a nice manner, thanks.

I asked several places and no one knows if theres any legality to it.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: CQ on June 30, 2008, 02:10:43 PM
No idea but that seems normal worldwide. I have multiple passports and my name is always in all caps.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on June 30, 2008, 02:15:28 PM
When the insanity and delusion is THIS obvious I will call it as it is.

Fuck it, call me a neo conservative for all I care, just don't forget to wear your tin foil hat when you read your phone bill with "HUGO CHAVEZ" (the slave) instead of "Hugo Chavez" (the man).
At least we know now Lupe...  It was just annoying to have you constantly on the attack under the same flag.  It was always, WTF :-\  Ok, we're cool, just don't confuse me by attacking liberal issues/ideas/people while calling yourself one.


I should have started a thread about this instead of posting here, sorry Bindare.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 02:19:45 PM
Watch this and tell me there is no legality in capital letter names.

Listen to what the cop is asking her! Watch it all and listen very carefully.

Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 30, 2008, 02:23:55 PM
What makes it so unaccessable and unusable to have it printed in Capital and lower case? im just asking questions, I'd appreciate it if you could answer in a nice manner, thanks.

I asked several places and no one knows if there's any legality to it.

It's called data normalisation. For instance in my job, billions of web pages might be analysed for word relationships etc. This is so relation ships can be formed between words seamlessly, i.e. My TiTle => my title; BLUe skY => blue sky etc. Surely you understand why this is advantageous?

In this case, my personal preference and corporate policy is to normalise all the text on a web page to lower-case.

However, for admin tasks, like employee payroll the character data is upper case because it is the historical norm.

Characters typed exclusively either in lower or upper-case have an increased readability. For admin tasks, increasing usability and readability will decrease margin errors when copying the data via a human data inputter. Any decimal percentage of decreased errors is VERY desirable when dealing with millions of citizens, thousands of customers, etc. etc...

No idea but that seems normal worldwide. I have multiple passports and my name is always in all caps.

Yes it is the historical norm.

Maybe you tin foil hat wearing types can now pursue the conspiracy of WHY it is the historical norm?
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 02:25:36 PM
It's called data normalisation. For instance in my job, billions of web pages might be analysed for word relationships etc. This is so relation ships can be formed between words seamlessly, i.e. My TiTle => my title; BLUe skY => blue sky etc. Surely you understand why this is advantageous?

In this case, my personal preference and corporate policy is to normalise all the text on a web page to lower-case.

However, for admin tasks, like employee payroll the character data is upper case because it is the historical norm.

Characters typed exclusively either in lower or upper-case have an increased readability. For admin tasks, increasing usability and readability will decrease margin errors when copying the data via a human data inputter. Any decimal percentage of decreased errors is VERY desirable when dealing with millions of citizens, thousands of customers, etc. etc...

Yes it is the historical norm.

Maybe you tin foil hat wearing types can now pursue the conspiracy of WHY it is the historical norm?

So your saying 100% certainty there is no legality involved in having it written in all capitals?
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 30, 2008, 02:27:34 PM
So your saying 100% certainty there is no legality involved in having it written in all capitals?

What are you talking about? A legal requirement to be in block capitals?

Most forms in England are required to be in block capitals so that they can be read by a computer and ran through OCR software which has the ability to recognise upper case characters better than lower case / case mixture.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 02:29:10 PM
What are you talking about? A legal requirement to be in block capitals?Most forms in England are required to be in block capitals so that they can be read by a computer and ran through OCR software which has the ability to recognise upper case characters better than lower case / case mixture.

Yes, thats what I'm asking. I didn't ask what form of printing the name makes it easier to file.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 02:33:28 PM
Oh looks like she drove everyone away and they didnt get a chance to put those locks on her door after all, for now. hhmmmmm

Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 30, 2008, 02:36:08 PM
on every piece of government id and bank cards?

This video may not be the answer but it brings up interesting points. Its a Canadian version buts holds true for Americans as well. I called my bank and asked them why my name is in all capitals when thats is not how I sign or print my name. They put me on hold for 10 minutes and when they got back on the phone asked me why I wanted to know. I told them it was simply out of curiosity. They put me on hold again for what seemed like forever and when they came back they explained it's for "user friendliness", to make it easier for people to read the name on the card. I asked for some documentation from any of their bank books that would swear to this. They couldn't find it. Im still waiting for an explaination.

Anyone else have any idea's?

Yes, thats what I'm asking. I didn't ask what form of printing the name makes it easier to file.

Well your original statement made no assertion of legality being the issue did it?
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 02:37:34 PM
Did you watch the video? The cop couldnt "see' her because she is an agent of the name on the papers. Just find it all very interesting, wouldnt you say?
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 02:39:17 PM
Well your original statement made no assertion of legality being the issue did it?

Bro, for us to learn it would help that you didnt place yourself above me in the way you answer. If we are on an equal level we may both learn why she was able to get all these dickheads off her property without being in dishonor of the courts. If you watched the accompanied video you would know the reference of my question.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on June 30, 2008, 02:46:02 PM
Watch this and tell me there is no legality in capital letter names.

Listen to what the cop is asking her! Watch it all and listen very carefully.


LOL... I like how how he refers to talking legally within the same set of written laws that allow him to do what he does as "grandstanding for the camera"  Everything she said was is law, saying it is grandstanding?

wtf
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 02:52:55 PM
LOL... I like how how he refers to talking legally within the same set of written laws that allow him to do what he does as "grandstanding for the camera"  Everything she said was is law, saying it is grandstanding?

wtf

LOL.  I love the body language of everyone. In the first video they all barge into her house, by the end no one even wants to look at her.  Search for truth, ask questions about the world around you. I'm amazed at how much information is out there and I've been busy all afternoon calling government agencies asking questions. So far no one can help me get answers but Im peeking their curiosty as well, which I'm finding very interesting. haha

There is no harm in asking questions and looking for answers, why continue to just go through the motions like everyone else?
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on June 30, 2008, 02:56:17 PM
Oh looks like she drove everyone away and they didnt get a chance to put those locks on her door after all, for now. hhmmmmm


LOL V... for Vendetta....
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 02:56:57 PM
She says, "This CAPITALIZED PERSON cannot speak."
"Fair enough." is his answer.

haha
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 30, 2008, 03:00:08 PM
Did you watch the video? The cop couldnt "see' her because she is an agent of the name on the papers. Just find it all very interesting, wouldnt you say?

No, if you follow the posts in this thread you will find your position has changed dramatically from wanting an explanation as to why block capitals are used (which I provided an adequate answer), to now discussing the legality of the requirement of using block capitals.

Bro, for us to learn it would help that you didnt place yourself above me in the way you answer. If we are on an equal level we may both learn why she was able to get all these dickheads off her property without being in dishonor of the courts. If you watched the accompanied video you would know the reference of my question.

I was responding to something exclusive of her getting some twats off her lawn.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 03:04:27 PM
No, if you follow the posts in this thread you will find your position has changed dramatically from wanting an explanation as to why block capitals are used (which I provided an adequate answer), to now discussing the legality of the requirement of using block capitals.

I was responding to something exclusive of her getting some twats off her lawn.

Fair enough. A little misunderstanding.

Are you familiar with any legalities surrounding the capitalization of our names on government issued id? If you come across any, would you let me know? Thanks.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on June 30, 2008, 03:07:17 PM
Ok, after seeing all of that, it must be nice to live in Canada.  Here in the US, they would have tasered you in the face 60 seconds in, stripped your ass naked and maced you several times.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 30, 2008, 03:12:47 PM
Are you familiar with any legalities surrounding the capitalization of our names on government issued id? If you come across any, would you let me know? Thanks.

It's not something that interests me enough to pursue an answer but it does seem diabolical that it is a legal requirement.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 03:31:44 PM
Listen to the "peace officer" help the banker. hahahaha this woman is a good crazy.



In the end her friend says, "Put the peace officers on Notice.", The other cop asks something about it and the supervisor officer shuts up his partner reeeal quick. 7:28
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: youandme on June 30, 2008, 04:26:44 PM
haha oh hugo was this the thread?


anyways capital leaders, yeah it's for customer concern AND some people write their lower case letters akwards for instance the letter A some write it upside down G.

most delusioned paranoid poster.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: kh300 on June 30, 2008, 04:29:34 PM
as i look through my wallet i just now realized im a slave to the library and blockbuster. i better get ready for when the librarian comes to take my stuff.

Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: youandme on June 30, 2008, 04:35:14 PM
as i look through my wallet i just now realized im a slave to the library and blockbuster. i better get ready for when the librarian comes to take my stuff.



Damn you better use that hardcover book for cover, I heard they throw pens (sharpie brand)

you did check out a hardcover, I hope?
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: kh300 on June 30, 2008, 04:42:54 PM
Damn you better use that hardcover book for cover, I heard they throw pens (sharpie brand)

you did check out a hardcover, I hope?

well theres more. i have a jet blue frequent flyer card, and a costcos card. but heres the one im really scared of. i got a gas card for my birthday. guess what...... my names in capital letters. the horror
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: stormshadow on June 30, 2008, 06:23:24 PM
well theres more. i have a jet blue frequent flyer card, and a costcos card. but heres the one im really scared of. i got a gas card for my birthday. guess what...... my names in capital letters. the horror

Take a look at one of your personal checks and check out the signature line.  It's not a line, its VERY tiny words, I wonder what they say... and I wonder why they are purposely printed so small.  I had to use a microscope in the lab to read them.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Deicide on June 30, 2008, 06:44:59 PM
No idea but that seems normal worldwide. I have multiple passports and my name is always in all caps.

You have multiple passports? Where from? And what is your bloody island called?
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 07:02:56 PM
haha oh hugo was this the thread?


anyways capital leaders, yeah it's for customer concern AND some people write their lower case letters akwards for instance the letter A some write it upside down G.

most delusioned paranoid poster.

hahaha

You don't understand what im asking?
The question is, are there any legalities to having your name spelled out all captial letters on goverment issued id/cards or bank cards. Is there a legal reason why these institutions spell your name out in all capital letters?

Thats all Im asking. This woman may have found a legal loophole, in the way she represents herself.

Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Deicide on June 30, 2008, 07:13:51 PM
Ever wonder how long China and Japan will keep on buying our debt???
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: youandme on June 30, 2008, 07:25:29 PM
Take a look at one of your personal checks and check out the signature line.  It's not a line, its VERY tiny words, I wonder what they say... and I wonder why they are purposely printed so small.  I had to use a microscope in the lab to read them.


you are aware that every time you cash a check it goes through the automated clearing house (ACH) apparently they run your name in KEYBOARD letters, and check to see if you have funds available in the account, this is done by a machine, crazy
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 07:34:50 PM
Her she is interacting with another officer. haha

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5533912798663615086&q=&hl=en


Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: stormshadow on June 30, 2008, 07:38:41 PM

you are aware that every time you cash a check it goes through the automated clearing house (ACH) apparently they run your name in KEYBOARD letters, and check to see if you have funds available in the account, this is done by a machine, crazy

What the fuck are you talking about?  I said the SIGNATURE LINE OF YOUR PERSONAL CHECK

Look closely at the line, it's not a line, its words written very tiny and repeated over and over to look like a line.

You are seriously one stupid mother fucker. 
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: CQ on June 30, 2008, 07:40:44 PM
You have multiple passports? Where from? And what is your bloody island called?

Honestly, I am finding this weird now.

That is like the 4th time you have asked me in 10 days, I see you started a whole thread about it as well :-\

I said last week I discuss things like that over pm. You all are from large places, I am not. Giving my name publically is like you people giving you exact town publically which most don't either. You are the only person who has had some big issue. Most either chat with me about it via pm, or don't care.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: stormshadow on June 30, 2008, 07:42:16 PM
hahaha

You don't understand what im asking?
The question is, are there any legalities to having your name spelled out all captial letters on goverment issued id/cards or bank cards. Is there a legal reason why these institutions spell your name out in all capital letters?

Thats all Im asking. This woman may have found a legal loophole, in the way she represents herself.



It's not a loophole, she is using Commercial Law.  In our Case - The United States of America (formerly united States of America) no longer operates via common law.  With the incorporation of the United States of America in 1871 we operate with Commercial Law which is why you cannot win in the court system with the legal loopholes.  You have to play the game with the Uniform Commercial Code UCC-1 and seperate your true and proper name from that of your Corporate Strawman.

Commercial Law trumps them all.  Commercial Law trumps the Constitution as well because it went from the Constitution for the united States, to the Constitution of the United States.

It changed to a corporate constitution, which is why it no longer protects our rights and the government tramples all over it.  Paying debts with Federal Reserve Notes is a direct violation of Article 1 Section 10 yet nobody in government seems to care.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: youandme on June 30, 2008, 07:44:01 PM
What the fuck are you talking about?  I said the SIGNATURE LINE OF YOUR PERSONAL CHECK

Look closely at the line, it's not a line, its words written very tiny and repeated over and over to look like a line.

You are seriously one stupid mother fucker. 


shhhh, they are listening
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 07:47:25 PM
What the fuck are you talking about?  I said the SIGNATURE LINE OF YOUR PERSONAL CHECK

Look closely at the line, it's not a line, its words written very tiny and repeated over and over to look like a line.

You are seriously one stupid mother fucker. 

haha it is!

what does it say? i just noticed it after you mentioned it.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: stormshadow on June 30, 2008, 07:49:45 PM
haha it is!

what does it say? i just noticed it after you mentioned it.

grab a lens and see for yourself.  I can only open the door Neo, you have to walk through it.

Now the question is why does the bank write it sooooo small?  You should ask them this as well...

Could it be because they (the bank) know that the name on the check in ALL CAPS is not you, so they are removing from themselves the burden of verifying authorization and placing it on you... which you accept voluntarily each time you sign your check?

Just one way to look at it. 

I'm sure youandme and kh300 will say the reason they make it small words instead of a solid line so they can save ink.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 07:55:32 PM
I don't have a magnifying glass.  What does it say? 
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 08:00:22 PM
Does the MP at the end of the "line" have any meaning?
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: stormshadow on June 30, 2008, 08:02:06 PM
Does the MP at the end of the "line" have any meaning?

I don't know what that means, but its not .0000001 font so I'm sure it's not anything critical LOL

The funny thing is pretty much everything we do is voluntary compliance because we don't know our own rights.  The government cannot make you a slave, but they can trick you into becoming one voluntarily by accepting the benefits that go with it ie: birth certificate, drivers license, marriage license, social security, etc.

Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: youandme on June 30, 2008, 08:04:27 PM
I'm sure youandme and kh300 will say the reason they make it small words instead of a solid line so they can save ink.

The ink is a disintegrating tracker with a bar code that reads when you sign the check alerting the bank and copying your signature authenticating itself.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: stormshadow on June 30, 2008, 08:08:41 PM
I don't have a magnifying glass.  What does it say? 

Actually I wasn't able to read it with a regular magnifying glass.  I believe you need at least an 8x lens, like what a jeweler has.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 30, 2008, 08:17:53 PM
'Authorized Signature' in fine, micro print to give the appearance of a solid line. To the common check writer it is just a line upon which to sign his/her name. To the banking industry, it is the authorization, given by the natural person/owner, to allow his/her transmitting utility(corporation) to fulfill a contract. For you see, only a corporation may contract with another corporation. Look it up.
And by having a Social Security Number issued to your "fictitious entity" (ALL CAPITAL LETTER NAME) you have been entered, as a corporation through which the Federal Government may conduct its affairs, i.e. taxation upon that corporation's earned income, as opposed to the natural person's LABOR. This is why the LAW cannot be justified or proven, by any whom are questioned to produce it. It's far easier to say, "Because it's the law," than it is to tell the truth, which is "Actually, we can not tax, for example, Alexander William Rose-the natural, sovereign person. We can only tax ALEXANDER WILLIAM ROSE, his authorized, by SSN, transmitting utility.

 Go into your bank's lobby, and request to see your signature card. You know. The one you signed, as a natural person, the day you opened your account(s). After you meet the opposition to turning YOUR card over to YOU, flip it to the reverse side. Here is where my "theory" will start to come to life for you. In most, if not all, cases you will find the bank's stamp on the back.
It should say, in varying terms the following:
"FOR COMMERCIAL USE ONLY." This means commerce. This means corporation to corporation operations. This means you. You will notice that your name is also printed on the back, to accompany that stamp. It IS stamped in ALL CAPS.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why your name is in all CAPITALS
Post by: stormshadow on June 30, 2008, 08:27:10 PM
'Authorized Signature' in fine, micro print to give the appearance of a solid line. To the common check writer it is just a line upon which to sign his/her name. To the banking industry, it is the authorization, given by the natural person/owner, to allow his/her transmitting utility(corporation) to fulfill a contract. For you see, only a corporation may contract with another corporation. Look it up.
And by having a Social Security Number issued to your "fictitious entity" (ALL CAPITAL LETTER NAME) you have been entered, as a corporation through which the Federal Government may conduct its affairs, i.e. taxation upon that corporation's earned income, as opposed to the natural person's LABOR. This is why the LAW cannot be justified or proven, by any whom are questioned to produce it. It's far easier to say, "Because it's the law," than it is to tell the truth, which is "Actually, we can not tax, for example, Alexander William Rose-the natural, sovereign person. We can only tax ALEXANDER WILLIAM ROSE, his authorized, by SSN, transmitting utility.

 Go into your bank's lobby, and request to see your signature card. You know. The one you signed, as a natural person, the day you opened your account(s). After you meet the opposition to turning YOUR card over to YOU, flip it to the reverse side. Here is where my "theory" will start to come to life for you. In most, if not all, cases you will find the bank's stamp on the back.
It should say, in varying terms the following:
"FOR COMMERCIAL USE ONLY." This means commerce. This means corporation to corporation operations. This means you. You will notice that your name is also printed on the back, to accompany that stamp. It IS stamped in ALL CAPS.

Good Job Danielson