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http://www.muscletime.com/news/latest/johnnie-jackson-deadlift-and-bench-press-powerlifting/
So on Pep Talk a while back this bitch said he challenged Ronnie and Ronnie dd not answer. How can he claim to be stronger then Ronnie with numbers like these?
The Beef
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i think he did a 650/700 pound benchpress but locked out one elbow before the other.
And he did a I think 830pound deadlift but didnt push the hips correctly or something like that =)
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dorian trained harder than both ronnie and johnny
fucking a!
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i agee
ronnie in his prime didn t even need a bench shirt to master 600lb bench
jj is not only not the strongest bb - he is actually very average one strenght-wise
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i agee
ronnie in his prime didn t even need a bench shirt to master 600lb bench
jj is not only not the strongest bb - he is actually very average one strenght-wise
Bingo . . . Ronnie would wipe his ass with this bitch.
The Beef
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i agee
ronnie in his prime didn t even need a bench shirt to master 600lb bench
jj is not only not the strongest bb - he is actually very average one strenght-wise
ahahahaha
ronnie has never, in his life, held 600 pounds in the bench. not to mention his 495 reps weren't remotely meet-style. i'm being generous, very generous, by saying he'd have a 530 meet bench. secondly, he's never pulled heavy without straps. thirdly, his squats were never to parallel.
whenever people talk of ronnie as though he were some astronomical strength athlete, i just can't help but laugh. johnnie's proven his lifts in a meet before and had he not had a few snafus (torn hammy, fucked up his shirt) he would have really blown up the numbers.
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i think he did a 650/700 pound benchpress but locked out one elbow before the other.
And he did a I think 830pound deadlift but didnt push the hips correctly or something like that =)
no he didn't, he tried a 600 pound bench with a shirt and they red lighted it for not locking an arm out and he tried an 821 deadlift and they red lighted it for not pushing his hips forward.
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ahahahaha
ronnie has never, in his life, held 600 pounds in the bench. not to mention his 495 reps weren't remotely meet-style. i'm being generous, very generous, by saying he'd have a 530 meet bench. secondly, he's never pulled heavy without straps. thirdly, his squats were never to parallel.
whenever people talk of ronnie as though he were some astronomical strength athlete, i just can't help but laugh. johnnie's proven his lifts in a meet before and had he not had a few snafus (torn hammy, fucked up his shirt) he would have really blown up the numbers.
i agree with you on the bench, Ronnie has admitted himself that the most he ever benched in the gym was 550 for a single and that's a gym lift which if you've seen his videos isn't competition strict.
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I'm sorry...but until I see any other bodybuilder, including "white thong" jackson, pump out 12 perfectly formed reps with 200lb dumbells, i'm not convinced ::)
Johnnie who?! ::)
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I'm sorry...but until I see any other bodybuilder, including "white thong" jackson, pump out 12 perfectly formed reps with 200lb dumbells, i'm not convinced ::)
Johnnie who?! ::)
problem is the dumbbell bench press isn't a powerlift, when it is we'll talk.
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problem is the dumbbell bench press isn't a powerlift, when it is we'll talk.
yeah you're right...what the hell would that have to do with strength, right ::)
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yeah you're right...what the hell would that have to do with strength, right ::)
put it to you like this, when i see Ronnie bench 600 like JOJ did at this meet then i'll say he's as strong as JOJ, 200 pound db's is still only 400 pounds.
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ahahahaha
ronnie has never, in his life, held 600 pounds in the bench. not to mention his 495 reps weren't remotely meet-style. i'm being generous, very generous, by saying he'd have a 530 meet bench. secondly, he's never pulled heavy without straps. thirdly, his squats were never to parallel.
whenever people talk of ronnie as though he were some astronomical strength athlete, i just can't help but laugh. johnnie's proven his lifts in a meet before and had he not had a few snafus (torn hammy, fucked up his shirt) he would have really blown up the numbers.
actually benching the way ronnie does it is harder than the usual style.
if ronnie had trained for powerlifting he would have been very very good.
but thats just ifs and buts.
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put it to you like this, when i see Ronnie bench 600 like JOJ did at this meet then i'll say he's as strong as JOJ, 200 pound db's is still only 400 pounds.
Okay, so JJ says he's stronger than Ronnie, right? So JJ puts all his efforts into two lifts, bench and deads...right, for a 1RM all out?? We agree on that much right?
So then here's Ronnie, normally training in the 12-15 rep range, NOT training for strength nor for a high 1RM and still doing 200lb db's on flat AND incline, shoulder pressing 160db's, front squating 585, squatting and deadlifting 800 lbs while low carbing and being 5 weeks from the O ::) ::) ::) ::)
Dude...it's not even close! Brian Dobson's right...IF Ronnie trained to lift the maximum amount of weight for one rep, and this was his entire goal, he WOULD be the strongest man in the world too!
Have you seen JJ "rowing" with 315?! LOLOLOLOL
gayer than thinking JJ's in the same league as Ronnie ;D
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BTW...being able to balance 200lb db's like Ronnie does on the bench with perfect alignment and no shaking speaks volumes on not only the strength of his chest/delts but also his forearms and grip strength to stabilize those huge dbs!
again...
JJ who?!
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Okay, so JJ says he's stronger than Ronnie, right? So JJ puts all his efforts into two lifts, bench and deads...right, for a 1RM all out?? We agree on that much right?
So then here's Ronnie, normally training in the 12-15 rep range, NOT training for strength nor for a high 1RM and still doing 200lb db's on flat AND incline, shoulder pressing 160db's, front squating 585, squatting and deadlifting 800 lbs while low carbing and being 5 weeks from the O ::) ::) ::) ::)
Dude...it's not even close! Brian Dobson's right...IF Ronnie trained to lift the maximum amount of weight for one rep, and this was his entire goal, he WOULD be the strongest man in the world too!
Have you seen JJ "rowing" with 315?! LOLOLOLOL
gayer than thinking JJ's in the same league as Ronnie ;D
not the strongest man in the world. but certainly blown away JJ. he would have been an elite class powerlifter.
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Okay, so JJ says he's stronger than Ronnie, right? So JJ puts all his efforts into two lifts, bench and deads...right, for a 1RM all out?? We agree on that much right?
So then here's Ronnie, normally training in the 12-15 rep range, NOT training for strength nor for a high 1RM and still doing 200lb db's on flat AND incline, shoulder pressing 160db's, front squating 585, squatting and deadlifting 800 lbs while low carbing and being 5 weeks from the O ::) ::) ::) ::)
Dude...it's not even close! Brian Dobson's right...IF Ronnie trained to lift the maximum amount of weight for one rep, and this was his entire goal, he WOULD be the strongest man in the world too!
Have you seen JJ "rowing" with 315?! LOLOLOLOL
gayer than thinking JJ's in the same league as Ronnie ;D
::) coulda, shoulda, woulda, JOJ could do all those lifts while weighing 50 pounds less than Ronnie.
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not the strongest man in the world. but certainly blown away JJ. he would have been an elite class powerlifter.
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ahahahaha
ronnie has never, in his life, held 600 pounds in the bench. not to mention his 495 reps weren't remotely meet-style. i'm being generous, very generous, by saying he'd have a 530 meet bench. secondly, he's never pulled heavy without straps. thirdly, his squats were never to parallel.
whenever people talk of ronnie as though he were some astronomical strength athlete, i just can't help but laugh. johnnie's proven his lifts in a meet before and had he not had a few snafus (torn hammy, fucked up his shirt) he would have really blown up the numbers.
ZachG85 . . . not exactly an athority on powerlifting or bodybuilding. How are things in the aerospace field? How do you know what Ronnie has benched, Youtube, mags etc?
The beef
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Ronnie's 495 flat bench for 5 reps weren't full, but they very well could have been. He's training, so he doesn't bring the bar all the way up, but does touch his chest. Ronnie also pressed 200 lb dumbells like they were nothing.
JJ sturggles with 405 on the flat bench.
And if Ronnie can deadlift 800 pounds for a double with straps, then he should have been able to get atleast a single. His squats weren't bad, and of course they wouldn't pass in a musclebear pl meeting. But I'd call them for legit than any powerlifter's squats.. Pls have very wide stances and when they squat it looks as though they're doing good mornings. ::)
I just love how clows here come and say his lifts wouldn't do in a PL meeting. Well, as slaveboy pointed out, the way he(Ronnie) lifts is harder because he's trying to hit the muscles, and not arching his back, extending his belly and having 8 spotters help him like some asshole musclebear pl.
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::) coulda, shoulda, woulda, JOJ could do all those lifts while weighing 50 pounds less than Ronnie.
LMAO!!!
If I can, i'll post that youtube clip of him doing convulsions with 315, and calling them barbell rows ::)
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LMAO!!!
If I can, i'll post that youtube clip of him doing convulsions with 315, and calling them barbell rows ::)
the bb rows are bad that i'll admit but Ronnie's ain't exactly textbook either, he stands almost completely straight up and swings the shit out of them.
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not the strongest man in the world. but certainly blown away JJ. he would have been an elite class powerlifter.
on presses: MAYBE.
JOJ hit his 814 pull 3 weeks out of the nationals in 2001 weighing 230. a no-strap pull 14 pounds heavier weighing 55 pounds less. then there was his 830 squat that, unlike ronnie's, DID make it to parallel.
you can say ronnie WOULD have been elite class, but that's pure conjecture like saying if mariusz had trained like a bodybuilder he'd be mr olympia.
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::) coulda, shoulda, woulda, JOJ could do all those lifts while weighing 50 pounds less than Ronnie.
JJ never said pound for pound, he said he was stronger then Ronnie. And JJ was mighty fat there whil eRonnie does his shit in contest shape or close to it.
Th eBeef
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on presses: MAYBE.
JOJ hit his 814 pull 3 weeks out of the nationals in 2001 weighing 230. a no-strap pull 14 pounds heavier weighing 55 pounds less. then there was his 830 squat that, unlike ronnie's, DID make it to parallel.
you can say ronnie WOULD have been elite class, but that's pure conjecture like saying if mariusz had trained like a bodybuilder he'd be mr olympia.
Hit 814 . . . say who? Show us your source.
Th eBeef
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ZachG85 . . . not exactly an athority on powerlifting or bodybuilding. How are things in the aerospace field? How do you know what Ronnie has benched, Youtube, mags etc?
The beef
talk to anyone who actually trains with ronnie (glennr on mayhem used to talk about it all the damn time). ronnie never trains as heavy as he does for his videos. and that's no surprise, either, if he trained like he did in the videos he'd have torn even more muscles than he did. IN the damn videos he says he's never tried it before, so it's a safe bet that his 800x2 partial squat and his 800x2 strapped pull were the highest he ever tried.
by the way, what the hell does my old major in college have to do with anything? ::)
Hit 814 . . . say who? Show us your source.
Th eBeef
if you can get your hands on it, in the june 2005 (i think) muscle and fitness, with the rock on the cover, they have a training article featuring Johnnie and some other dude back when they were NPC competitors. there is a photograph of johnnie hitting his 814 pull.
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And I won't bring up the height difference either ;D
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Ronnie's 495 flat bench for 5 reps weren't full, but they very well could have been. He's training, so he doesn't bring the bar all the way up, but does touch his chest. Ronnie also pressed 200 lb dumbells like they were nothing.
JJ sturggles with 405 on the flat bench.
And if Ronnie can deadlift 800 pounds for a double with straps, then he should have been able to get atleast a single. His squats weren't bad, and of course they wouldn't pass in a musclebear pl meeting. But I'd call them for legit than any powerlifter's squats.. Pls have very wide stances and when they squat it looks as though they're doing good mornings. ::)
I just love how clows here come and say his lifts wouldn't do in a PL meeting. Well, as slaveboy pointed out, the way he(Ronnie) lifts is harder because he's trying to hit the muscles, and not arching his back, extending his belly and having 8 spotters help him like some asshole musclebear pl.
if ronnie had added explosive bench training and focused on improving technique in the bench he would have increased his bench numbers alot...certainly up to more than 600lbs. (without a bench shirt)
squats and deadlifts he would have been a monster at too. once again add in some speed training and some goodmornings and stuff like that; he would have been squatting insane numbers.
am i saying he would have been the strongest man in the world? no but elite world class powerlifter. no doubt in my mind. the only question mark is shirted benching.
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if ronnie had added explosive bench training and focused on improving technique in the bench he would have increased his bench numbers alot...certainly up to more than 600lbs. (without a bench shirt)
squats and deadlifts he would have been a monster at too. once again add in some speed training and some goodmornings and stuff like that; he would have been squatting insane numbers.
am i saying he would have been the strongest man in the world? no but elite world class powerlifter. no doubt in my mind. the only question mark is shirted benching.
Ronnie would never have benched 600 without a shirt, not in a million years.
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if ronnie had added explosive bench training and focused on improving technique in the bench he would have increased his bench numbers alot...certainly up to more than 600lbs. (without a bench shirt)
squats and deadlifts he would have been a monster at too. once again add in some speed training and some goodmornings and stuff like that; he would have been squatting insane numbers.
am i saying he would have been the strongest man in the world? no but elite world class powerlifter. no doubt in my mind. the only question mark is shirted benching.
whoa dude. whoa.
over 600 without a shirt is like over 900 on the deadlift. that's incredibly elite. you can say he'd be a great powerlifter, but to start thinking he'd be in the top 0.1% of powerlifters of all time is a bit of a stretch.
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/600-pound-raw-bench-press
49 men of all time have hit a 600+ bench raw in a meet. "certainly over" 600 cuts that number in half. i think that's a bit much. i also just plain don't buy into this school of thought that he'd be that much stronger. maybe he's nearly tapped out strength-wise. who knows?
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Ronnie would never have benched 600 without a shirt, not in a million years.
See, now you're just ruining your own credibility by showing that you're nothing more than a "ronnie hater" ::)
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Ronnie would OWN the National Quarter Rep Bodybuilding Lift Federation and set all time records. :o
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Ronnie would never have benched 600 without a shirt, not in a million years.
its all speculation, but i believe he would have been able to do that.
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Ronnie would OWN the National Quarter Rep Bodybuilding Lift Federation and set all time records. :o
See, now you're just ruining your own credibility by showing that you're nothing more than a "ronnie hater" ::)
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“I am not going to answer to this so-called court, out of respect for the truth and the will of the Iraqi people. ... I've said what I've said, and I'm not guilty.”
Matt C
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gayer than MATZI quotes becoming the inside jokes for "ignorant bliss" ;D
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whoa dude. whoa.
over 600 without a shirt is like over 900 on the deadlift. that's incredibly elite. you can say he'd be a great powerlifter, but to start thinking he'd be in the top 0.1% of powerlifters of all time is a bit of a stretch.
http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/600-pound-raw-bench-press
49 men of all time have hit a 600+ bench raw in a meet. "certainly over" 600 cuts that number in half. i think that's a bit much. i also just plain don't buy into this school of thought that he'd be that much stronger. maybe he's nearly tapped out strength-wise. who knows?
i simply disagree. i think ronnie would have pulled 900 AND benched 600 with proper powerlifting training. his squat would have been huge too.
am i saying he would have set world records? nope not in any of the events.
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Okay, so JJ says he's stronger than Ronnie, right? So JJ puts all his efforts into two lifts, bench and deads...right, for a 1RM all out?? We agree on that much right?
So then here's Ronnie, normally training in the 12-15 rep range, NOT training for strength nor for a high 1RM and still doing 200lb db's on flat AND incline, shoulder pressing 160db's, front squating 585, squatting and deadlifting 800 lbs while low carbing and being 5 weeks from the O ::) ::) ::) ::)
Dude...it's not even close! Brian Dobson's right...IF Ronnie trained to lift the maximum amount of weight for one rep, and this was his entire goal, he WOULD be the strongest man in the world too!
Have you seen JJ "rowing" with 315?! LOLOLOLOL
gayer than thinking JJ's in the same league as Ronnie ;D
i agree here... johnny is nowhere near ronnie in his prime....
.. i dont even think johnie is the strongest bb now...
i just dont see him as this immensley strong guy .. they protray him to be.. and if people are going to try all pull numbers.. to say ronnie weighs more etc that means there a lot of stronger lighter guys out there than johnie.. . if we are using the bodyweight rule
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i simply disagree. i think ronnie would have pulled 900 AND benched 600 with proper powerlifting training. his squat would have been huge too.
am i saying he would have set world records? nope not in any of the events.
dude, you realize that the number of guys who have pulled 900 is TWELVE?
there are 12 men who have pulled 900, 49 who have benched 600 raw and there is NO crossover between those lists. there is not one man in the history of powerlifting who has registered both a 900+ deadlift and a 600+ pound raw bench. so yes, claiming he would have those two is indeed saying he'd be setting world records.
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id like to say,, britains eddy elwood pulled 900lbs and benched 600 for a british magazine shoot......
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dude, you realize that the number of guys who have pulled 900 is TWELVE?
there are 12 men who have pulled 900, 49 who have benched 600 raw and there is NO crossover between those lists. there is not one man in the history of powerlifting who has registered both a 900+ deadlift and a 600+ pound raw bench. so yes, claiming he would have those two is indeed saying he'd be setting world records.
na he would still be a couple of hundred lbs away from the total world record. and he wouldnt set any individual records either.
also the shirted bench press is almost a different event compared to raw benching. i get the feeling ronnie wouldnt have been that good with a shirt.
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Ronnie = strongest bodybuilder ever
JJ = third tier pro who's a good deadlifter
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id like to say,, britains eddy elwood pulled 900lbs and benched 600 for a british magazine shoot......
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Ronnie = strongest bodybuilder ever
JJ = third tier pro who's a good deadlifter
agreed...
ive seen johnie struggle with 405 for 3 reps.... struggle badly
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same eddy elwood that does worlds strongest man........ i'll try and find the mag and scan it
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that list with the 49 people who have benched 600 raw is missing alot of names. granted some of them were not done in competition, but still the potential was there to do it in competition.
several strongmen could have entered a powerlifting meet and done 600 raw. samuelsson, savickas, katona etc
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Johnny probably lifts more than Ronnie when wearing a white thong suit ::)
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na he would still be a couple of hundred lbs away from the total world record. and he wouldnt set any individual records either.
also the shirted bench press is almost a different event compared to raw benching. i get the feeling ronnie wouldnt have been that good with a shirt.
i would bet money that, had he trained PL'ing, he'd have maybe hit high 500s in the gym, but never logged a comp raw bench over 600. six plates i'm saying tops. deadlift, 850 or so and that's being generous since we've never seen him pull strapless.
he's very strong, would be stronger. not that high though.
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looks like eddies on top then....
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Eddie Ellwood is a strong mother. He went on to compete as a professional strongman after his professional bodybuilding career. I am not sure about a 900 lbs pull, but I know he was very strong.
Johhny Jackson is VERY strong. There is no mistake. Anyone that can pull over 800 lbs, and I have seen him do it in person, is VERY strong (world class strength).
I think Ronnie may have been capable of a 600 lbs raw bench with specific training. I saw him easily handle 495 for reps in his video and he controlled the weight very well. I think he was good for 520-530 lbs for a paused single at that time.
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talk to anyone who actually trains with ronnie (glennr on mayhem used to talk about it all the damn time). ronnie never trains as heavy as he does for his videos. and that's no surprise, either, if he trained like he did in the videos he'd have torn even more muscles than he did. IN the damn videos he says he's never tried it before, so it's a safe bet that his 800x2 partial squat and his 800x2 strapped pull were the highest he ever tried.
by the way, what the hell does my old major in college have to do with anything? ::)
if you can get your hands on it, in the june 2005 (i think) muscle and fitness, with the rock on the cover, they have a training article featuring Johnnie and some other dude back when they were NPC competitors. there is a photograph of johnnie hitting his 814 pull.
Right you are bro.
In 2006, he did 6 plates for backsquat when I was there. For I 12 reps I think it was. He was around 320 then in June. And that was about what he did regularly, not the 800 every week lol.
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Right you are bro.
In 2006, he did 6 plates for backsquat when I was there. For I 12 reps I think it was. He was around 320 then in June. And that was about what he did regularly, not the 800 every week lol.
self ownage
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Is Tank Abbott stronger on the bench than Ronnie Coleman? Discuss.
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self ownage
You are right, he did own me. In fact, he owned all of us at Metroflex that day.
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jj is not only not the strongest bb - he is actually very average one strenght-wise
Average?
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Discuss:
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Ok first off ronnies 800 pound squat was for two reps, to parrellel after 4 sets of full stack 20 rep extensions and previous squats going from 225,405,600,765 then 800 all for multiple reps. Throw in the fact that is was clearly not is max weight as he appeared as though he could of done more, then its obvious he would be a world class squatter if he choose to train for that.
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Ok first off ronnies 800 pound squat was for two reps, to parrellel after 4 sets of full stack 20 rep extensions and previous squats going from 225,405,600,765 then 800 all for multiple reps. Throw in the fact that is was clearly not is max weight as he appeared as though he could of done more, then its obvious he would be a world class squatter if he choose to train for that.
lol Yes
I wonder how Mr. Magoo will respond to this if at all? ::)
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Discuss:
amazing
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You are right, he did own me. In fact, he owned all of us at Metroflex that day.
lol you dont even know how you owned yourself in that earlier post. bye bye.
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Ok first off ronnies 800 pound squat was for two reps, to parrellel after 4 sets of full stack 20 rep extensions and previous squats going from 225,405,600,765 then 800 all for multiple reps. Throw in the fact that is was clearly not is max weight as he appeared as though he could of done more, then its obvious he would be a world class squatter if he choose to train for that.
amen. add to that fact , that he trained like a bodybuilder and not as a powerlifter. if he had focused more on the big three, his poundages would have been even higher.
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Ronnie's form is some of the worst on the planet...There is no way in hell that ronnie would even be able to sit under 500 pounds(without a shirt)and do a legit competition bench press...And we won't even go into his Squats and deadlift...
Don't get me wrong, Ronnie is a strong Mofo in the gym...But lets not confuse the gym with comp/lifting...Ronnie would get torched by Johnny...
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Ronnie's form is some of the worst on the planet...There is no way in hell that ronnie would even be able to sit under 500 pounds(without a shirt)and do a legit competition bench press...And we won't even go into his Squats and deadlift...
Don't get me wrong, Ronnie is a strong Mofo in the gym...But lets not confuse the gym with comp/lifting...Ronnie would get torched by Johnny...
ronnie does 5 reps with 495 non lock out style (which is harder than reg bench presses..because your not resting in the lock out position) and you dont think ronnie could even bench 500?
what are you ? an idiot or just a moron?
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ronnie does 5 reps with 495 non lock out style (which is harder than reg bench presses..because your not resting in the lock out position) and you dont think ronnie could even bench 500?
what are you ? an idiot or just a moron?
Non lock out style is not harder then rest pause(with a pause on the bottom) bro...Its momemtum he is using...And ronnies elbows are not anywhere close to where they have to be in a comp/lift...
And no Ronnie can't do a 500 pound lift with a pause at the bottom waiting for the command to press...Not even close...
But with all that said, I am both an idiot and a moron...
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Non lock out style is not harder then rest pause(with a pause on the bottom) bro...Its momemtum he is using...And ronnies elbows are not anywhere close to where they have to be in a comp/lift...
And no Ronnie can't do a 500 pound lift with a pause at the bottom waiting for the command to press...Not even close...
But with all that said, I am both an idiot and a moron...
lol if he can do 5 reps with 495 non lockout style his 1RM would be atleast be 520-530.
add in some specific bench press training and he would be benching 600lbs raw. (not anymore tho..as his body is fucked...but at his strongest , a few years ago)
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lol you dont even know how you owned yourself in that earlier post. bye bye.
Umm, no. How can I own myself when I am telling the truth. Ah nevermind. Nevermind.
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ahahahaha
he's never pulled heavy without straps
oh, looking at ron s tiny hands and skinny forearms, i m sure , he couldn t handle his weights without straps ;D
hey mr fool :-*
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Average?
yes average !!!!
look at him at the gym, he does nothing the average pro and maybe hundrets of amateurs can t do
bb-rows - he struggled with 315
all pec exercises - a lot weaker than the average pro (ask brench warren)
and so on
its all like he tries the singles and most bb dont go for low reps becaus its just stupid to risk to get injured
real streght for a bodybuilder means to do things like ronnie s dumble presses or nasser s 200lb dumbell shoulder press
there is no cheating no equipment that helps
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I wonder what the world records would be if the top powerlifters, olympic lifters and strongmen took as much drugs as the pro bodybuilders.
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actually they thake a lot more without less respect of side effects
bleeding nose after atempts, acne , no hair ....is not a problem on a platform, even for woman
Bodybuilder have to take care of
on the other hand havy-bb have to take more diuretics (as long the lifters are not in weight classes)
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Non lock out style is not harder then rest pause(with a pause on the bottom) bro...Its momemtum he is using...And ronnies elbows are not anywhere close to where they have to be in a comp/lift...
And no Ronnie can't do a 500 pound lift with a pause at the bottom waiting for the command to press...Not even close...
But with all that said, I am both an idiot and a moron...
his back was also flat on the bench, and most powerlifters at that weight are moving the bar half of the distance he is moving it. they have huge guts and a retarded poster to minimize movement, again are you just a moron?
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his back was also flat on the bench, and most powerlifters at that weight are moving the bar half of the distance he is moving it. they have huge guts and a retarded poster to minimize movement, again are you just a moron?
Don't fool yourself...Ronnies gut is on par with most heavy weight fat ass power lifters...stop believing everything you read in flex...The guys gut is over 40inches contest shape...And if your the douche bag everyone tells me you are, then you would believe that pushing the weight without stopping is harder then rest pause...Which everyone in the world except your flex subscription buying ass knows is not true...
The truth is, that is how you train and every other douche bag in your gym...You push weight on rythem and want to believe its harder because your a fking pussy...I'm telling you right now, Ronnie can not take 500 pounds Raw and hold it at the bottom and push on command...You do realise the guy is half retarded to boot...JJ would smoke his silly peanut eating ass and only people who jerk off to Ronnie's video believes differently...Don't get me wrong the guy is retard strong...But when it comes to comp/lifting, Ronnie Coleman would be brought back down to reality...And he knows this hence is why he would never go head to head with JJ...
Now go call muscle tech and tell them how great they are and that you need to see more Greg Kovcas's smith machine inclines...I mean really Greg could probably incline bench a 1000pounds right?...
So in closing, you are a douchebag and everyone knows it and you hang on Ronnies every word...You have a subscription to every mag out there and you use each story in the mags as a guideline for your every workout...I'm a moron and your a naive douchebag...
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Don't fool yourself...Ronnies gut is on par with most heavy weight fat ass power lifters...stop believing everything you read in flex...The guys gut is over 40inches contest shape...And if your the douche bag everyone tells me you are, then you would believe that pushing the weight without stopping is harder then rest pause...Which everyone in the world except your flex subscription buying ass knows is not true...
The truth is, that is how you train and every other douche bag in your gym...You push weight on rythem and want to believe its harder because your a fking pussy...I'm telling you right now, Ronnie can not take 500 pounds Raw and hold it at the bottom and push on command...You do realise the guy is half retarded to boot...JJ would smoke his silly peanut eating ass and only people who jerk off to Ronnie's video believes differently...Don't get me wrong the guy is retard strong...But when it comes to comp/lifting, Ronnie Coleman would be brought back down to reality...And he knows this hence is why he would never go head to head with JJ...
Now go call muscle tech and tell them how great they are and that you need to see more Greg Kovcas's smith machine inclines...I mean really Greg could probably incline bench a 1000pounds right?...
So in closing, you are a douchebag and everyone knows it and you hang on Ronnies every word...You have a subscription to every mag out there and you use each story in the mags as a guideline for your every workout...I'm a moron and your a naive douchebag...
Man, half-retarded with a BS in Accounting. Damn, that's one smart half-retard. By the way, how do they measure being half-retarded? I'm curious, because I think I might have this affliction.
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actually benching the way ronnie does it is harder than the usual style.
if ronnie had trained for powerlifting he would have been very very good.
but thats just ifs and buts.
Yep.
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Man, half-retarded with a BS in Accounting. Damn, that's one smart half-retard. By the way, how do they measure being half-retarded? I'm curious, because I think I might have this affliction.
I believe if you look it up in the dictionary. It means that if anyone dresses up in a moses costome in public and tries to come off like they are some sort of spiritual adviser, then the dictionary stats that they must be half retarded...So unless you are dressing in moses or jesus's outfits, i think you are alright...However strength also could play a part in this...Do you happen to be retard strong? That to could be a factor...
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i give Jonny credit for at least having the balls to put it on the line at a power meet. Most pros just like to talk crap about how strong they are.
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Yeah, it is commendable that Johnny is brave enough to put his strength on the line in an official meet, no question. And of course he's a very strong dude. Let's get real.
Ronnie is terrifically strong and his potential as a powerlifter was obvious.
Let's just agree that both men are crazy strong, OK?
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Steve Goggins,the first man to squat 1100lbs, and one of the greatest powerlifters in the history of the sport,has stated if Ronnie had trained to powerlift,he would have been a world champ in a year.Johnny Jackson is an average lifter with a big pull.The guy squats 821 and benches in the very low 500s.He is strong,but is no where close to as strong as Ronnie.By the way,I think Ronnie pulled a 744 in a meet in his younger days at a light bodyweight.
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Steve Goggins,the first man to squat 1100lbs, and one of the greatest powerlifters in the history of the sport,has stated if Ronnie had trained to powerlift,he would have been a world champ in a year.Johnny Jackson is an average lifter with a big pull.The guy squats 821 and benches in the very low 500s.He is strong,but is no where close to as strong as Ronnie.By the way,I think Ronnie pulled a 744 in a meet in his younger days at a light bodyweight.
I agree especially with the part thats is bold...
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jonnie has crazy traps...... he LOOKS strong just preparing to pull..... :o
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Brutal strength. Que spermatese posting how he could do much more and only show vid's of his "wicked" tennis serve. ::)
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Steve Goggins,the first man to squat 1100lbs, and one of the greatest powerlifters in the history of the sport,has stated if Ronnie had trained to powerlift,he would have been a world champ in a year.Johnny Jackson is an average lifter with a big pull.The guy squats 821 and benches in the very low 500s.He is strong,but is no where close to as strong as Ronnie.By the way,I think Ronnie pulled a 744 in a meet in his younger days at a light bodyweight.
yes goggins and a lot other great lifter were training in metroflex alington and none of them ever denied that ronnie was the strongest