Johnny Jackson

[Hurricane Beef !]

http://www.muscletime.com/news/latest/johnnie-jackson-deadlift-and-bench-press-powerlifting/

So on Pep Talk a while back this bitch said he challenged Ronnie and Ronnie dd not answer. How can he claim to be stronger then Ronnie with numbers like these?

The Beef

[spinnis]

i think he did a 650/700 pound benchpress but locked out one elbow before the other.
And he did a I think 830pound deadlift but didnt push the hips correctly or something like that =)

[Bluto]

dorian trained harder than both ronnie and johnny

fucking a!

[closeline]

i agee

ronnie in his prime didn t even need a bench shirt to master 600lb bench


jj is not only not the strongest bb - he is actually very average one strenght-wise

[Hurricane Beef !]

i agee

ronnie in his prime didn t even need a bench shirt to master 600lb bench


jj is not only not the strongest bb - he is actually very average one strenght-wise

Bingo . . . Ronnie would wipe his ass with this bitch.

The Beef

[MisterMagoo]

i agee

ronnie in his prime didn t even need a bench shirt to master 600lb bench


jj is not only not the strongest bb - he is actually very average one strenght-wise

ahahahaha

ronnie has never, in his life, held 600 pounds in the bench. not to mention his 495 reps weren't remotely meet-style. i'm being generous, very generous, by saying he'd have a 530 meet bench. secondly, he's never pulled heavy without straps. thirdly, his squats were never to parallel.

whenever people talk of ronnie as though he were some astronomical strength athlete, i just can't help but laugh. johnnie's proven his lifts in a meet before and had he not had a few snafus (torn hammy, fucked up his shirt) he would have really blown up the numbers.

[WJ_Harley]

i think he did a 650/700 pound benchpress but locked out one elbow before the other.
And he did a I think 830pound deadlift but didnt push the hips correctly or something like that =)

no he didn't, he tried a 600 pound bench with a shirt and they red lighted it for not locking an arm out and he tried an 821 deadlift and they red lighted it for not pushing his hips forward.

[WJ_Harley]

ahahahaha

ronnie has never, in his life, held 600 pounds in the bench. not to mention his 495 reps weren't remotely meet-style. i'm being generous, very generous, by saying he'd have a 530 meet bench. secondly, he's never pulled heavy without straps. thirdly, his squats were never to parallel.

whenever people talk of ronnie as though he were some astronomical strength athlete, i just can't help but laugh. johnnie's proven his lifts in a meet before and had he not had a few snafus (torn hammy, fucked up his shirt) he would have really blown up the numbers.

i agree with you on the bench, Ronnie has admitted himself that the most he ever benched in the gym was 550 for a single and that's a gym lift which if you've seen his videos isn't competition strict.

[Brutal_1]

I'm sorry...but until I see any other bodybuilder, including "white thong" jackson, pump out 12 perfectly formed reps with 200lb dumbells, i'm not convinced 


Johnnie who?! 

[WJ_Harley]

I'm sorry...but until I see any other bodybuilder, including "white thong" jackson, pump out 12 perfectly formed reps with 200lb dumbells, i'm not convinced 


Johnnie who?! 

problem is the dumbbell bench press isn't a powerlift, when it is we'll talk.

[Brutal_1]

problem is the dumbbell bench press isn't a powerlift, when it is we'll talk.

yeah you're right...what the hell would that have to do with strength, right 

[WJ_Harley]

yeah you're right...what the hell would that have to do with strength, right 

put it to you like this, when i see Ronnie bench 600 like JOJ did at this meet then i'll say he's as strong as JOJ, 200 pound db's is still only 400 pounds.

[slaveboy1980]

ahahahaha

ronnie has never, in his life, held 600 pounds in the bench. not to mention his 495 reps weren't remotely meet-style. i'm being generous, very generous, by saying he'd have a 530 meet bench. secondly, he's never pulled heavy without straps. thirdly, his squats were never to parallel.

whenever people talk of ronnie as though he were some astronomical strength athlete, i just can't help but laugh. johnnie's proven his lifts in a meet before and had he not had a few snafus (torn hammy, fucked up his shirt) he would have really blown up the numbers.

actually benching the way ronnie does it is harder than the usual style.

if ronnie had trained for powerlifting he would have been very very good.

but thats just ifs and buts.

[Brutal_1]

put it to you like this, when i see Ronnie bench 600 like JOJ did at this meet then i'll say he's as strong as JOJ, 200 pound db's is still only 400 pounds.

Okay, so JJ says he's stronger than Ronnie, right?  So JJ puts all his efforts into two lifts, bench and deads...right, for a 1RM all out??  We agree on that much right?  

So then here's Ronnie, normally training in the 12-15 rep range, NOT training for strength nor for a high 1RM and still doing 200lb db's on flat AND incline, shoulder pressing 160db's, front squating 585, squatting and deadlifting 800 lbs while low carbing and being 5 weeks from the O        


Dude...it's not even close!  Brian Dobson's right...IF Ronnie trained to lift the maximum amount of weight for one rep, and this was his entire goal, he WOULD be the strongest man in the world too!  

Have you seen JJ "rowing" with 315?!  LOLOLOLOL





gayer than thinking JJ's in the same league as Ronnie  

[Brutal_1]

BTW...being able to balance 200lb db's like Ronnie does on the bench with perfect alignment and no shaking speaks volumes on not only the strength of his chest/delts but also his forearms and grip strength to stabilize those huge dbs!

again...


JJ who?!

[slaveboy1980]

Okay, so JJ says he's stronger than Ronnie, right?  So JJ puts all his efforts into two lifts, bench and deads...right, for a 1RM all out??  We agree on that much right?  

So then here's Ronnie, normally training in the 12-15 rep range, NOT training for strength nor for a high 1RM and still doing 200lb db's on flat AND incline, shoulder pressing 160db's, front squating 585, squatting and deadlifting 800 lbs while low carbing and being 5 weeks from the O        


Dude...it's not even close!  Brian Dobson's right...IF Ronnie trained to lift the maximum amount of weight for one rep, and this was his entire goal, he WOULD be the strongest man in the world too!  

Have you seen JJ "rowing" with 315?!  LOLOLOLOL





gayer than thinking JJ's in the same league as Ronnie  

not the strongest man in the world. but certainly blown away JJ. he would have been an elite class powerlifter.

[WJ_Harley]

Okay, so JJ says he's stronger than Ronnie, right?  So JJ puts all his efforts into two lifts, bench and deads...right, for a 1RM all out??  We agree on that much right?  

So then here's Ronnie, normally training in the 12-15 rep range, NOT training for strength nor for a high 1RM and still doing 200lb db's on flat AND incline, shoulder pressing 160db's, front squating 585, squatting and deadlifting 800 lbs while low carbing and being 5 weeks from the O        


Dude...it's not even close!  Brian Dobson's right...IF Ronnie trained to lift the maximum amount of weight for one rep, and this was his entire goal, he WOULD be the strongest man in the world too!  

Have you seen JJ "rowing" with 315?!  LOLOLOLOL





gayer than thinking JJ's in the same league as Ronnie  

coulda, shoulda, woulda, JOJ could do all those lifts while weighing 50 pounds less than Ronnie.

[Brutal_1]

not the strongest man in the world. but certainly blown away JJ. he would have been an elite class powerlifter.

 

[Hurricane Beef !]

ahahahaha

ronnie has never, in his life, held 600 pounds in the bench. not to mention his 495 reps weren't remotely meet-style. i'm being generous, very generous, by saying he'd have a 530 meet bench. secondly, he's never pulled heavy without straps. thirdly, his squats were never to parallel.

whenever people talk of ronnie as though he were some astronomical strength athlete, i just can't help but laugh. johnnie's proven his lifts in a meet before and had he not had a few snafus (torn hammy, fucked up his shirt) he would have really blown up the numbers.

ZachG85 . . . not exactly an athority on powerlifting or bodybuilding. How are things in the aerospace field? How do you know what Ronnie has benched, Youtube, mags etc?

The beef

[Camel Jockey]

Ronnie's 495 flat bench for 5 reps weren't full, but they very well could have been. He's training, so he doesn't bring the bar all the way up, but does touch his chest. Ronnie also pressed 200 lb dumbells like they were nothing.

JJ sturggles with 405 on the flat bench.

And if Ronnie can deadlift 800 pounds for a double with straps, then he should have been able to get atleast a single. His squats weren't bad, and of course they wouldn't pass in a musclebear pl meeting. But I'd call them for legit than any powerlifter's squats.. Pls have very wide stances and when they squat it looks as though they're doing good mornings.  

I just love how clows here come and say his lifts wouldn't do in a PL meeting. Well, as slaveboy pointed out, the way he(Ronnie) lifts is harder because he's trying to hit the muscles, and not arching his back, extending his belly and having 8 spotters help him like some asshole musclebear pl.

[Brutal_1]

coulda, shoulda, woulda, JOJ could do all those lifts while weighing 50 pounds less than Ronnie.

LMAO!!!

If I can, i'll post that youtube clip of him doing convulsions with 315, and calling them barbell rows  

[WJ_Harley]

LMAO!!!

If I can, i'll post that youtube clip of him doing convulsions with 315, and calling them barbell rows  

the bb rows are bad that i'll admit but Ronnie's ain't exactly textbook either, he stands almost completely straight up and swings the shit out of them.

[MisterMagoo]

not the strongest man in the world. but certainly blown away JJ. he would have been an elite class powerlifter.

on presses: MAYBE.

JOJ hit his 814 pull 3 weeks out of the nationals in 2001 weighing 230. a no-strap pull 14 pounds heavier weighing 55 pounds less. then there was his 830 squat that, unlike ronnie's, DID make it to parallel.

you can say ronnie WOULD have been elite class, but that's pure conjecture like saying if mariusz had trained like a bodybuilder he'd be mr olympia.

[Hurricane Beef !]

coulda, shoulda, woulda, JOJ could do all those lifts while weighing 50 pounds less than Ronnie.

JJ never said pound for pound, he said he was stronger then Ronnie. And JJ was mighty fat there whil eRonnie does his shit in contest shape or close to it.

Th eBeef

[Hurricane Beef !]

on presses: MAYBE.

JOJ hit his 814 pull 3 weeks out of the nationals in 2001 weighing 230. a no-strap pull 14 pounds heavier weighing 55 pounds less. then there was his 830 squat that, unlike ronnie's, DID make it to parallel.

you can say ronnie WOULD have been elite class, but that's pure conjecture like saying if mariusz had trained like a bodybuilder he'd be mr olympia.

Hit 814 . . . say who? Show us your source.

Th eBeef