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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Pollux on July 07, 2008, 05:17:12 PM
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19 year old Arnold Schwarzenegger's first crack at trying to win the '66 NABBA Universe... ;D
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Pics from the post-Universe dance...
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great pics...but skinny neck and a big ole softee in some of those shots
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More of the 19 year old wonder from the show... 8)
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More of the 19 year old wonder from the show... 8)
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He's doing a 'Dreamer' in the bottom right corner.
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Schwarzenpecker looking good.
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Chet owned Arnold, especially in the calves and thighs.
In "Education of a Bodybuilder" Arnold said he thought he had won the show, and did not even realize how close it was, and was shocked when he took second.
But Arnold said Chet was "polished", had the awesome calves, knew how to pose, could "twist his upper body so it made his waist appear very small".
Arnold knew he had to get to Gold's Gym in So. Aal at that very moment, and his dream was to come to America-and Joe Weider made that dream happen.
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Chet owned Arnold, especially in the calves and thighs.
In "Education of a Bodybuilder" Arnold said he thought he had won the show, and did not even realize how close it was, and was shocked when he took second.
But Arnold said Chet was "polished", had the awesome calves, knew how to pose, could "twist his upper body so it made his waist appear very small".
Arnold knew he had to get to Gold's Gym in So. Aal at that very moment, and his dream was to come to America-and Joe Weider made that dream happen.
"each muscle thoroughly mapped with veins...."
Arnold on Yorton
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Chet owned Arnold, especially in the calves and thighs.
In "Education of a Bodybuilder" Arnold said he thought he had won the show, and did not even realize how close it was, and was shocked when he took second.
But Arnold said Chet was "polished", had the awesome calves, knew how to pose, could "twist his upper body so it made his waist appear very small".
Arnold knew he had to get to Gold's Gym in So. Aal at that very moment, and his dream was to come to America-and Joe Weider made that dream happen.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
story book ending
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great pics...but skinny neck and a big ole softee in some of those shots
he was bigger at 19 than you ever were as an adult
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all drugs, he'll never make it as a pro, no chance of winning a show...wasn't that Lee Priest in that 3rd pic?
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all drugs, he'll never make it as a pro, no chance of winning a show...wasn't that Lee Priest in that 3rd pic?
Give him time.
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he was bigger at 19 than you ever were as an adult
Knny187's right, Moosejay. Don't go throwing bricks when you live in a glass house.
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he was bigger at 19 than you ever were as an adult
my observations were of him when he was not even close to his prime. i was not comparing him to me...if you read back a bit, you will see that i stated he was incomparable
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Knny187's right, Moosejay. Don't go throwing bricks when you live in a glass house.
i could suggest you read my above post, or, ask you to post one of your own picks, or simply just 'chillax'
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ask you to post one of your own picks
I refuse because I am morbidly obese. Posting a pic would encourage malicious comments, and cause me to meltdown. ;D
So anyway, about Arnold... 8)
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Great pics, keep them coming Although i fail to see when someones neck size mattered to a bodybuilding contest ::)
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he was bigger at 19 than you ever were as an adult
Arnold was prety big at 19, 250#.......
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Arnold was prety big at 19
No doubt! :o
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Awesome pics! almost makes me want to go to the dark side ;D
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Seeing these pics of arnold is very motivating 8) He was an awesome bodybuilder, even at 19.
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Seeing these pics of arnold is very motivating
Hell yeah! 8)
Crazy that at 19, and virtually unknown, he was the biggest surprise with the most attention at the '66 NABBA Universe. 8)
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great pics...but skinny neck and a big ole softee in some of those shots
I suppose hes got nothing on you "Moosejay" ::)
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I suppose hes got nothing on you "Moosejay" ::)
You mean you haven't heard? ::)
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Mods, move this thread to the Arnold board, please.
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You mean you haven't heard? ::)
Yes ive heard "pollux" ::)
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I suppose hes got nothing on you "Moosejay" ::)
I critiqued him when he was just starting out. Your selectivity warrants that you ignore posts where I explain this.
If you think your 'hero' is without fault...I hate to be like everyone else here in saying this...but yes, maybe your are a homosexual.
Just for icing on the cake ...Take THAT!:
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you know you look like Luigi from Mario brothers. But Luigi's much more muscular.
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you know you look like Luigi from Mario brothers. But Luigi's much more muscular.
Hmmm...Let me see if I can find more pics where I look like him...on't know if I believe that:
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Fellas, who owns the most muscular here - a 19 year old Arnold or an 35+ Moosejay?
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Fellas, who owns the most muscular here - a 19 year old Arnold or an 35+ Moosejay?
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Moosejay has Arnold on cuts and hardness, but Arnold has the size advantage ::)
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Moosejay has Arnold on cuts and hardness, but Arnold has the size advantage ::)
Plus Arnold's neck is skinny. ::)
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Plus Arnold's neck is skinny. ::)
Arnold's upper body is not that far off from his prime, his neck looks pretty thick to me ::)
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Fellas, who owns the most muscular here - a 19 year old Arnold or an 35+ Moosejay?
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I am 21 there, and
-I had better color than arnold
-I did not put greasy 'Brillcream' in my hair
-I smiled and did not put forth a non-smiling countenance as though I were a denizen of the Bataan Death march
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Moosejay has Arnold on cuts and hardness, but Arnold has the size advantage ::)
Coming from a man with true, 21" guns!
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Coming from a man with true, 21" guns!
Bwahahaha....they were 20.5 last week on chest day, at a BF of 25-30%.
I dont claim to be in shape right now, but I am still carrying size.
When I was in shape-in the 12% BF range- they were 19 fully pumped (drug free), 18 cold.
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I am 21 there, and
-I had better color than arnold
-I did not put greasy 'Brillcream' in my hair
-I smiled and did not put forth a non-smiling countenance as though I were a denizen of the Bataan Death march
Moosejay, are you suggesting that if you (at 21) and Arnold (at 19) were onstage together, you'd beat him? :o
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Moosejay, are you suggesting that if you (at 21) and Arnold (at 19) were onstage together, you'd beat him? :o
No. I don't think he'd blow me away.
But, like JV said, I am harder and more cut, color and finish.
I was at my lifetime best at 21(Good regional bb), Arnold was best in the world at 21.
But, you don't admit that Arnold at 19was light years away from his alltime best?
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Bwahahaha....they were 20.5 last week on chest day, at a BF of 25-30%.
I dont claim to be in shape right now, but I am still carrying size.
When I was in shape-in the 12% BF range- they were 19 fully pumped (drug free), 18 cold.
You are to be commended.
That is a very big, in-shape arm.
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moose is jealous of a 19 year old arnold
pathetic
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moose is jealous of a 19 year old arnold
pathetic
Kenny, please do yourself, and the country, a favor, and get hooked on phonics to assist you in reading comprehension.
What's with you? I thought we was kool??
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Kenny, please do yourself, and the country, a favor, and get hooked on phonics to assist you in reading comprehension.
What's with you? I thought we was kool??
I never liked you
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you're shit is getting old
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WHOS THIS SWIMMER?
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But, you don't admit that Arnold at 19was light years away from his alltime best?
Absolutely! That I'm not disputing.
But putting the two of you onstage together (19 & 21), Arnold would get the edge over you.
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you know you look like Luigi from Mario brothers. But Luigi's much more muscular.
HAHAHA i told him this also, weeks ago.
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WHOS THIS SWIMMER?
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Arnold dwarfs you.
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(http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/arnold-2.bmp)Arnold shows that there are not long term side effects to drug abuse.
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I never liked you
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you're shit is getting old
If you want to fight, go to Iraq...not that they'd take you.
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Absolutely! That I'm not disputing.
But putting the two of you onstage together (19 & 21), Arnold would get the edge over you.
I am in firm agreement with you
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Arnold dwarfs you.
To 'Jethro'
and others like you:
You are fortunate that we who compete even come here to slum and talk to the likes of you.
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HAHAHA i told him this also, weeks ago.
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Well, we ARE both Italian :-\
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If you want to fight, go to Iraq...not that they'd take you.
I'm a highly trained former Marine.
They would want me back in a heart beat dipshit
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I'm a highly trained former Marine.
They would want me back in a heart beat dipshit
I doubt that.
You have no honor, respect, or anything akin to these traits.
If you were a marine, you are a FRAUD and a disgrace, homo.
HTP, tata!
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I doubt that.
You have no honor, respect, or anything akin to these traits.
If you were a marine, you are a FRAUD and a disgrace, homo.
HTP, tata!
nice try homo
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Is Moosejay comparing himself to arnold, saying he is better? Am i getting this right?
Did you know that delusions of grandeur is a symptom of a psychotic disorder?
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Is Moosejay comparing himself to arnold, saying he is better? Am i getting this right?
Did you know that delusions of grandeur is a symptom of a psychotic disorder?
Like I have told some of your fellow, 6th-8th grade reading level compatriots here, try reading the WHOLE thread...a novel concept, but it will help see clearly, friend.
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I critiqued him when he was just starting out. Your selectivity warrants that you ignore posts where I explain this.
If you think your 'hero' is without fault...I hate to be like everyone else here in saying this...but yes, maybe your are a homosexual.
Just for icing on the cake ...Take THAT!:
Actually "moosejay" my hero is Greg Kovacs
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Actually "moosejay" my hero is Greg Kovacs
Does your insurance cover cataract removal?
If not, it may be worth it to tap your annuity and get your eyes fixed.
That one's a freebie 8)
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Moosejay is a wannabe hasbeen
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Is Moosejay comparing himself to arnold, saying he is better? Am i getting this right?
Well, I told Moosejay that if he at 21, and Arnold at 19, were onstage together, Arnold would get the edge over him. He said he was in agreement with him. Moosejay reconizes who's champ! ;D
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Well, I told Moosejay that if he at 21, and Arnold at 19, were onstage together, Arnold would get the edge over him. He said he was in agreement with him. Moosejay reconizes who's champ! ;D
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Yes,
C'mon.
Arnold is Arnold.
It'd be fun to go back to those times.
I likely would not have been accepted, looking like I did in 80's - 2000's.
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To 'Jethro'
and others like you:
You are fortunate that we who compete even come here to slum and talk to the likes of you.
If you paid attention, you would see i quoted "Method101" and was addressing him, not you.
You act like because you competed, you are somehow better than me ::)
I never had a problem with you, and then you go and say shit like that. Saying something like that makes you look like a fucking delusional fool.
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I am 21 there, and
-I had better color than arnold
-I did not put greasy 'Brillcream' in my hair
-I smiled and did not put forth a non-smiling countenance as though I were a denizen of the Bataan Death march
lol, Arnold owns your tiny ass!
Hey, it's not a shame to lose against Arnold, you know. They all do.
Arnold is numero uno.
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If you paid attention, you would see i quoted "Method101" and was addressing him, not you.
You act like because you competed, you are somehow better than me ::)
I never had a problem with you, and then you go and say shit like that. Saying something like that makes you look like a fucking delusional fool.
that is your interpretation
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To 'Jethro'
and others like you:
You are fortunate that we who compete even come here to slum and talk to the likes of you.
How am i supposed to interpret that?
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lol, Arnold owns your tiny ass!
Hey, it's not a shame to lose against Arnold, you know. They all do.
Arnold is numero uno.
Arnold owns EVERYBODY - even at 19!
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Arnold owns EVERYBODY - even at 19!
This would be a perfect discussion for the Arnold board, don't you think?
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This would be a perfect discussion for the Arnold board, don't you think?
Indeed.
Yo, DonkeyKong! Throw some of them barrels and knock some sense into Ron! :D
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Indeed.
Yo, DonkeyKong! Throw some of them barrels and knock some sense into Ron! :D
i try to figure out which will be harder.... ;D
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It's well known and accepted in the bodybuilding arena that Arnold started using steroids at 15-16 years old. Put any 16 year old on dbol and primo and I'm sure you'll see lots of "genetic freaks". Arnold's genetics are way overrated.
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How am i supposed to interpret that?
It may be beyond you, so direct your efforts elsewhere for today
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It's well known and accepted in the bodybuilding arena that Arnold started using steroids at 15-16 years old.
Not necessarily. Rick Wayne said that Arnold had confided to him that he started taking steroids at 13. Yet Kurt Marnul said that Arnold started taking them at 15 when he introduced Arnold to 'em. So who the hell knows for sure.
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Not necessarily. Rick Wayne said that Arnold had confided to him that he started taking steroids at 13. Yet Kurt Marnul said that Arnold started taking them at 15 when he introduced Arnold to 'em. So who the hell knows for sure.
Pollux, didn't wendy leigh say he was 14, and he'd wash a handful of d-bol down with milk, and say, "Okay, let's go..< I'm ready.."?
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Pollux, didn't wendy leigh say he was 14, and he'd wash a handful of d-bol down with milk, and say, "Okay, let's go..< I'm ready.."?
See. That's the thing. You've got Rick Wayne saying one thing. Kurt Marnul another...
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Gayer than "fish & chips".
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gayer than giving it all you've got ::)
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Not necessarily. Rick Wayne said that Arnold had confided to him that he started taking steroids at 13. Yet Kurt Marnul said that Arnold started taking them at 15 when he introduced Arnold to 'em. So who the hell knows for sure.
Yes I've heard as young as 13 as well. I'm more likely to believe 15-16. Either way Arnold started using at a VERY young age. He had to in order to achieve the physique he did at 18. I mean to step on stage with pros like Chet Yorton at 18-19 years old? Come on. Hence why Arnold's "genetics" are overrated. You take any fairly strong, well developed teenager and put em on dbol and primo or whatever else he used and he grows into a bodybuilder and of course society will think he's a genetic freak.
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Gayer than posting pictures of teenage boys oiled up.
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gayer than the direction of this thread
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Yes I've heard as young as 13 as well. I'm more likely to believe 15-16. Either way Arnold started using at a VERY young age. He had to in order to achieve the physique he did at 18. I mean to step on stage with pros like Chet Yorton at 18-19 years old? Come on. Hence why Arnold's "genetics" are overrated. You take any fairly strong, well developed teenager and put em on dbol and primo or whatever else he used and he grows into a bodybuilder and of course society will think he's a genetic freak.
But you gotta admit, the drugs worked wonders for Arnold. He looked superb! Give someone the same shit and dosage Arnold took and no one will look like him - enter his genetics! 8)
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gayer than goatboy
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But you gotta admit, the drugs worked wonders for Arnold. He looked superb! Give someone the same shit and dosage Arnold took and no one will look like him - enter his genetics! 8)
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Lou looked pretty close to Arnold at the same age.........Yes I've heard as young as 13 as well. I'm more likely to believe 15-16. Either way Arnold started using at a VERY young age. He had to in order to achieve the physique he did at 18. I mean to step on stage with pros like Chet Yorton at 18-19 years old? Come on. Hence why Arnold's "genetics" are overrated. You take any fairly strong, well developed teenager and put em on dbol and primo or whatever else he used and he grows into a bodybuilder and of course society will think he's a genetic freak.
Actually back then there was no "professional" BBing. The top BBer of the time period was Bill Pearl, and he could not make a living purely from BBing-so he opened gyms.
Arnold was the FIRST true BBer to earn a living purely from BBing and nothing else. He did guest posing, seminars, gym openings (he appeared at Clany Ross's gym opening in 1978) and had a fairly decent mail order business.
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Arnold was the FIRST true BBer to earn a living purely from BBing and nothing else.
Yeah. Sergio Oliva always sounded bitter about that.
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But you gotta admit, the drugs worked wonders for Arnold. He looked superb! Give someone the same shit and dosage Arnold took and no one will look like him - enter his genetics! 8)
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You missed what I said...Arnold was a fairly strong well developed teenager. Arnold had a niche during his time...steroids were just on the scene and he was willing to take anything to get big....even as a teenager. How many other teenagers had that passion? Of course they didn't know the repercussions of such choices. Yes he had good genetics but great genetics? Hardly. Look at Jay Cutler at 18. He was nowhere near the development of Arnold at the same age. If Jay would have used steroids at 15 or whatever would you say he was the most genetically gifted BBer of all time?
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Who's to say a Bill Pearl at 15 or a Steve Reeves at 15 wouldn't have been just as big or as massive as Arnold using steroids at that age?
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But you gotta admit, the drugs worked wonders for Arnold.
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MuscleMcMannus, so you're just referring to as to WHEN Arnold was using steroids to look the way he did at the '66 NABBA Universe?
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MuscleMcMannus, so you're just referring to as to WHEN Arnold was using steroids to look the way he did at the '66 NABBA Universe?
Huh? What I'm saying is Arnold at age 18 stepped on stage with bodybuilders in their 30's. How was this possible? Did Chet Yorton take drugs at 15? Of course not. Arnold did. Hence why Arnold was as big as he was at 18. Why is that so hard to understand? That doesn't take anything away from Arnold's drive or ambition, in fact it solidifies it. Arnold would have done anything (and everyone) to reach his dream/goals. And he did. Good for him! But he was no more a genetic freak than anyone he competed against. Another rumor is Arnold had to take twice as many drugs as Sergio did during their competitive years. Maybe it's just a stupid rumor like a lot of things but it would make sense. Look at how much Arnold would shrink when he came off the drugs. Did you ever see pictures of a "skinny" Bill pearl, Sergio Oliva? No. Arnold's genetics were above average but nothing more extravagant than anyone else he competed against. So are you saying that Arnold using steroids at a young age didn't giv him a definitive edge? LOL. Even a young Serge Nubret at 18 didn't have the build i.e. size that Arnold did at 18 and I'd say Serge has much better genetics than Arnold ever could have had.
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Even a young Serge Nubret at 18 didn't have the build i.e. size that Arnold did at 18 and I'd say Serge has much better genetics than Arnold ever could have had.
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easy now, just messin' with ya! ;D
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Yeah. Sergio Oliva always sounded bitter about that.
He STILL does. Pollux...don't bother buying his book...beyond readable
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He STILL does. Pollux...don't bother buying his book...beyond readable
Really? Well, I'm still gonna pick it up simply because I love Sergio.
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Is Serge 18 in that pic? I guess I'll eat my words! LOL He's fucking amazing!
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Serge's chest looks awesome in that shot :o
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In those pics, who do you think looks better - Serge or Arnold?
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In those pics, who do you think looks better - Serge or Arnold?
Arnold's bigger and better 8)
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Arnold's bigger and better 8)
Arnold has tiny triceps and no abs. His traps are unimpressive as well. Serge dominates Arnold's best body part i.e. his chest! Serge's chest looks like it was fucking shrinkwrapped to his body. Geez that's genetics for you.
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Arnold has tiny triceps and no abs. His traps are unimpressive as well. Serge dominates Arnold's best body part i.e. his chest! Serge's chest looks like it was fucking shrinkwrapped to his body. Geez that's genetics for you.
NO ONE "dominates" Arnold's chest...... Sergio is not even close.
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You need to take into account that Serge is 9 years older than Arnold, so he has the advantage in this young Arnold shot
Arnold's chest at his best blows Serge's away
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Is Serge 18 in that pic? I guess I'll eat my words! LOL He's fucking amazing!
No shit! Amazing!
Serge's chest looks awesome in that shot :o
Serge's chest is amazing!
Arnold's bigger and better 8)
Not in that pic....Serge has Arnold, except for Biceps.
You need to take into account that Serge is 9 years older than Arnold, so he has the advantage in this young Arnold shot
Arnold's chest at his best blows Serge's away
Serge is 9 years older?? They both look the same age-like 16 or 17 y/o.
Arnold's chest in his prime is better than Serge's chest, but I would not say Arnold "blows Serge away", these are two of the best BBer's in history-no one blows their doors off.
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Arnold's chest at his best blows Serge's away
You ain't kidding! :o
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Serge is 9 years older?? They both look the same age-like 16 or 17 y/o.
Arnold born July 30, 1947
Serge born October 6, 1938
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Serge Nubret touched base on those pics here on Getbig, and he said he thinks he was about 28 years old.
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The king is here
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:o
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For as much dbol as these guys used I still don't get how they stayed so fucking dry. Look at Arnold's chin and jawline. I take dbol or test and I get moonface almost overnight. And I'm a naturally tall skinny mofo! Someone told me that they'd use dbol up until a couple weeks before competition and then switch to sublingual testosterone. I didn't even know they had sublingual test back then. And this guy is VERY knowledgeable and just authored a book on bodybuilding history.
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aenold there at whatever age is literally the size of me now and i am 22 years of old...OWNED by a kid lol
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aenold there at whatever age is literally the size of me now and i am 22 years of old...OWNED by a kid lol
Don't beat yourself up over it. Arnold OWNED a lot of people at 19. ;D
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You must admit, Jeff King crushed him and everyone at 19
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ha ha i dont care its arnold for crying out loud....no shame just funny...he is years ahead of me.
me @ 19 qith trousers up at my armpits
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(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/arnold_serge2.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222871.0;attach=261960;image)
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(http://www.trulyhuge.com/arnold/stage5.jpg)
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I really like that pic. You can see Arnold watching every move Sergio does.
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Hey Pollux what's up with your pec from the side? Like you've got a fat roll from the nipple to your lat? I have the exact same thing. It's annoying as hell. It's not gyno but just like loose skin or something when you flex your pec a certain way. Maybe just need a little more mass to smooth it out? Good build by the way.
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Hey Pollux what's up with your pec from the side? Like you've got a fat roll from the nipple to your lat? I have the exact same thing. It's annoying as hell. It's not gyno but just like loose skin or something when you flex your pec a certain way. Maybe just need a little more mass to smooth it out? Good build by the way.
It's Goudy ;)
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It's Goudy ;)
my bad....Goudy?
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Hey Pollux what's up with your pec from the side? Like you've got a fat roll from the nipple to your lat? I have the exact same thing. It's annoying as hell. It's not gyno but just like loose skin or something when you flex your pec a certain way. Maybe just need a little more mass to smooth it out? Good build by the way.
It's the Craig Titus syndrome.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/craigtitus.jpg)
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Looks like it's just a layer of subq fat that goes away with dieting and contest prep? It just seems to pull the pic in a weird direction when you flex or do a side bi post.
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Hey Pollux what's up with your pec from the side? Like you've got a fat roll from the nipple to your lat? I have the exact same thing. It's annoying as hell. It's not gyno but just like loose skin or something when you flex your pec a certain way. Maybe just need a little more mass to smooth it out? Good build by the way.
WTF?! That's not me. LOL!
That's Goudy. He posted his pic right above my post (see above).
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WTF?! That's not me. LOL!
That's Goudy. He posted his pic right above my post (see above).
I know I figured that out two posts ago. lol.
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Best physique of all time.. Arnold does not come close.
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/nubret/sn154.jpg)
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Best physique of all time.. Arnold does not come close.
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/nubret/sn154.jpg)
You gonna put the crack pipe down now or later?
Yes, Serge's physique was AWESOME, no doubt. But to suggest Arnold "does not come close"? No more crack for you! ;D
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ArnoldathisBEST.jpg)
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Hey Pollux what's up with your pec from the side? Like you've got a fat roll from the nipple to your lat? I have the exact same thing. It's annoying as hell. It's not gyno but just like loose skin or something when you flex your pec a certain way. Maybe just need a little more mass to smooth it out? Good build by the way.
It's just a small chest with no real size and having a bit of b/f looks poor though much better now...chest has never and never will be my strong point
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It's just a small chest with no real size and having a bit of b/f looks poor though much better now...chest has never and never will be my strong point
A nice dbol/deca or test/deca cycle would take care of that problem! :)
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A nice dbol/deca or test/deca cycle would take care of that problem! :)
lol ill politely decline
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(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/319685607.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/nubret/sn154.jpg)
Arnold was the best ever no doubt. However, Serge was (IMO) unbelievable in his conditioning and, his fully belly muscle separation, hardness and cuts. It really is a wonder that he never walked away with a Mr. O title at least once or twice. Especially when one looks at the list of those whom have. Just goes to show just how political it really is.
Moosejay- you have a really good build, something to take pride in. You really however, should not compare yourself to Arnold on the same stage. That is like trying to pass a Ferrari with a Volkswagen beetle. Compare yourself to someone like...............Lee Labrada for example. ;D
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(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/319685607.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/nubret/sn154.jpg)
It really is a wonder that he never walked away with a Mr. O title at least once or twice. Especially when one looks at the list of those whom have. Just goes to show just how political it really is.
Serge is 100 times better than Franco, 50 times better than Dickerson and 10 times better than Scott.
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Helluva change! :o
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAZORUYM.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/m86.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/319685607.jpg)
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I would've like to have seen Serge take Frank Zane's place in becoming Mr. Olympia.
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Arnold is god
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I would've like to have seen Serge take Frank Zane's place in becoming Mr. Olympia.
Serge:
Poor legs
No lat spread
Never saw a pic of a front double bicep of him
Could not top Zane, IMO
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Serge:
Poor legs
No lat spread
Never saw a pic of a front double bicep of him
Could not top Zane, IMO
Says the guy who compares himself to Arnold. ::)
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Serge:
Poor legs
No lat spread
Never saw a pic of a front double bicep of him
Could not top Zane, IMO
Funny, I dont think I have seen a double bi pic of Serge.......... his legs were not the best, but they were adequate for the time period.
Take a look at Arnolds legs from the 1980 Olympia...not much difference between the two.
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Arnold is god
Well, duh! :P
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Funny, I dont think I have seen a double bi pic of Serge
From '75 IFBB Olympia.
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/168/images/Serge_NUBRET_50.jpg)
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From '75 IFBB Olympia.
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/168/images/Serge_NUBRET_50.jpg)
That settles it, Serge has a pretty damn good double Bi.......
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Arnold's "Olympian legs" on the cover of Australia's Muscle & Fitness from '80 IFBB Olympia.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1225.jpg)
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Serge:
Poor legs
No lat spread
Never saw a pic of a front double bicep of him
Could not top Zane, IMO
;)
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Helluva change! :o
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAZORUYM.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/m86.jpg)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/319685607.jpg)
the power of lighting
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the power of lighting steroids.
:P
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:P
I would say i am genetically gifted. Shows me and arnie at 19...whilst he outclasses me in every department i dont look atrocious...shows the difference in class and size here.
Pardon the screwed up face lol
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why doesnt' anybody rock a side chest like arnold?
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why doesnt' anybody rock a side chest like arnold?
cuz nobody has a chest
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Not bad, Goudy. You can hold your own, but of course Arnold looks more polished and pleasing to the eye.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222871.0;attach=262218;image)
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why doesnt' anybody rock a side chest like arnold?
That's what I'm saying. They need to follow the example of this 19 year old...
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/436.jpg)
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cuz nobody has a chest
Lee Haney could match Arnold on chest-any chest shot-as could the Barbarian Brothers-but it is hard to think of many more......maybe Johnny Jackson today, but that is about it.
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Not bad, Goudy. You can hold your own, but of course Arnold looks more polished and pleasing to the eye.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222871.0;attach=262218;image)
certainly.
Arnold chest was superb, plus his delts were not as quite as developed as his chest...thus making it look bigger.
But i have never seen a good as chest as the likes of franco's arnies and lou's serge etc...it makes me wonder whether the overdelelopment of everuything else detracts from this.
Also yes about 3 people in my gym have a good chest.
Hard to come by
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Lee Haney could match Arnold on chest-any chest shot-as could the Barbarian Brothers-but it is hard to think of many more......maybe Johnny Jackson today, but that is about it.
Johnny jackson maybe
but he trains entirely different than how Arnold trained so when they both hit the pose...Johnny's chest doesn't jump up & out like Arnolds does
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Johnny jackson maybe
but he trains entirely different than how Arnold trained so when they both hit the pose...Johnny's chest doesn't jump up & out like Arnolds does
JJ's chest is thick as can be, shape is not as good as Arnold, but size is about the same think.
certainly.
Arnold chest was superb, plus his delts were not as quite as developed as his chest...thus making it look bigger.
But i have never seen a good as chest as the likes of franco's arnies and lou's serge etc...it makes me wonder whether the overdelelopment of everuything else detracts from this.
Also yes about 3 people in my gym have a good chest.
Hard to come by
I had a BETTER chest in my late teens, early 20''s than I do now. It would pump up thick as shit-but as I got lder I could not get the same pumps and my chest is not as big today.
Bac then I had a very basic chest routine-10 sets of 10 reps on the bench press, usualy hanging at 225#. I could not do that routine today because it is too damn boring (plus my shoulders make all sorts of weird sounds on flat bench when I do them-rarely), but back then I loved it.
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JJ's chest is thick as can be, shape is not as good as Arnold, but size is about the same think.
I had a BETTER chest in my late teens, early 20''s than I do now. It would pump up thick as shit-but as I got lder I could not get the same pumps and my chest is not as big today.
Bac then I had a very basic chest routine-10 sets of 10 reps on the bench press, usualy hanging at 225#. I could not do that routine today because it is too damn boring (plus my shoulders make all sorts of weird sounds on flat bench when I do them-rarely), but back then I loved it.
my chest looks like a bag of dicks...tho it is improving rapidly.
on german volume training im sure that it was massive.
i dont respons at all to high reps. sucks
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Johnny's chest doesn't jump up & out like Arnolds does
BAM! 8)
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCA2XLSCQ.jpg)
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Johnny jackson maybe
but he trains entirely different than how Arnold trained so when they both hit the pose...Johnny's chest doesn't jump up & out like Arnolds does
Thats because Johnny's rib cage is as deep as Arnolds ! he has great pecs too.
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if evrythinh else was downsized teh chest would look much larger
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if evrythinh else was downsized teh chest would look much larger
spoken like Moosejay straight from the hospital bed!!