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I haven't used creatine in almost a year. Started it again this week. Wow, it tears the belly up. I forgot about this side effect. :(
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use controlled labs creatine...no stomach upset
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i can't fuck with it. i get massive headaches
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i can't fuck with it. i get massive headaches
from dehydration?
I got the same headaches when I'd drink all night and go to sleep. Since I added more water to my drinking binges, the headaches have stopped. I"m thinking it's the same with creatine.
use controlled labs creatine...no stomach upset
I'm just using the cheap powder stuff. I need to order some good premixed powder. Old stuff just works so well for me. I'll seriously add ten pounds of water in 2 weeks.
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I can take 100 grams of creatine in one day without problems. Never did anything to my stomach.
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I can take 100 grams of creatine in one day without problems. Never did anything to my stomach.
epic 20 heaping teaspoons.
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I haven't used creatine in almost a year. Started it again this week. Wow, it tears the belly up. I forgot about this side effect. :(
Hi Goudy
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Creatine: How to fuck up your kidney function and cause irreversible damage.
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Creatine: How to fuck up your kidney function and cause irreversible damage.
hahahaha
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I can take 100 grams of creatine in one day without problems. Never did anything to my stomach.
...but it turns my shit purple
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from dehydration?
I got the same headaches when I'd drink all night and go to sleep. Since I added more water to my drinking binges, the headaches have stopped. I"m thinking it's the same with creatine.
I'm just using the cheap powder stuff. I need to order some good premixed powder. Old stuff just works so well for me. I'll seriously add ten pounds of water in 2 weeks.
no idea. whenever I used it for about a week I would start getting these crazy headaches.
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i havent used creatine in like a year... i dont think it ever did anything for me
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I havent used creatine for ages. Never noticed anything when on it, other than an upset stomach. Guess im a non responder to creatine...
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Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.
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Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.
I heard good stuff aboul Kre-alkalyn. Nver tried it but I trust it more that Chinese lead enhanced ethyl-ester
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Creatine works for me.
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never really did much for me when i tried it back in freshman year
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You are supposed to take it with sugar
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Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.
i use kre-alkalyn, good stuff
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Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.
Kre-Alkalyn is just plain old creatine monohydrate mixed with a buffer like bicarbonate. The reason for less sides is that you take less of it. I see absolutely no reason why it would cause less water retention than straight monohydrate, apart from the lower dosage.
And a study actually showed Kre-Alkalyn to be less stable in water than regular monohydrate.
Kre-alkalyn® supplementation has no beneficial effect on creatine-to-creatinine conversion rates.
Tallon MJ1 and Child R2
1University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, 2Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. DrTallon@CR-Technologies.net
All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp. (Billings, MT, USA) claim that Kre-alkalyn® (KA) a “Buffered” creatine, is 100% stable in stomach acid and does not convert to creatinine. In contrast, they also claim that creatine monohydrate (CM) is highly pH labile with more than 90% of the creatine converting to the degradation product creatinine in stomach acids. To date, no independent or university laboratory has evaluated the stability of KA in stomach acids, assessed its possible conversion to creatinine, or made direct comparisons of acid stability with CM.
This study examined whether KA supplementation reduced the rate of creatine conversion to creatinine, relative to commercially available CM (CreapureÒ). Creatine products were analyzed by an independent commercial laboratory using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37± 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes and immediately analyzed by HPLC (UV) for creatine and creatinine.
In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.
Supported by Cr-Technologies, LLP, London, England
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Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.
Sci-fit is the only brand that works for me.........I tried every type of creatine I could get my hands on, none of it worked until I tried the Sci-fit brand Kre-Alkalyn.
Good stuff.
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Kre-Alkalyn is just plain old creatine monohydrate mixed with a buffer like bicarbonate. The reason for less sides is that you take less of it. I see absolutely no reason why it would cause less water retention than straight monohydrate, apart from the lower dosage.
And a study actually showed Kre-Alkalyn to be less stable in water than regular monohydrate.
Kre-alkalyn® supplementation has no beneficial effect on creatine-to-creatinine conversion rates.
Tallon MJ1 and Child R2
1University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, 2Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. DrTallon@CR-Technologies.net
All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp. (Billings, MT, USA) claim that Kre-alkalyn® (KA) a “Buffered” creatine, is 100% stable in stomach acid and does not convert to creatinine. In contrast, they also claim that creatine monohydrate (CM) is highly pH labile with more than 90% of the creatine converting to the degradation product creatinine in stomach acids. To date, no independent or university laboratory has evaluated the stability of KA in stomach acids, assessed its possible conversion to creatinine, or made direct comparisons of acid stability with CM.
This study examined whether KA supplementation reduced the rate of creatine conversion to creatinine, relative to commercially available CM (CreapureÒ). Creatine products were analyzed by an independent commercial laboratory using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37± 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes and immediately analyzed by HPLC (UV) for creatine and creatinine.
In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.
Supported by Cr-Technologies, LLP, London, England
VB setting the smackdown once again ;)
I wonder though, who paid for that study to be done ;D
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A just question!
these guys: http://www.cr-technologies.net/
basically a competitor, so you can flush that study down the loo.
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I'll seriously add ten pounds of water in 2 weeks.
Just do a d-bol only cycle and you will be just as happy ... ;)
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Just do a d-bol only cycle and you will be just as happy ... ;)
eh, too scared to mess with PCT and my body's own test levels. I'm 32 and still get a woody when Victoria Secret commercials come on. I'm too scared to mess with that magic. I talk to other guys my age who are on viagra or whatever due to test dropoffs or blood circulation issues... I fear that.
Day 3 of the creatine... I'm still one windy dude. arms and shoulders popping though, I'm very happy. Taking it with juice each time.
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Sci-fit is the only brand that works for me.........I tried every type of creatine I could get my hands on, none of it worked until I tried the Sci-fit brand Kre-Alkalyn.
Good stuff.
I don't really care what some studies claim. They can be manipulated. Being a former competitor and having trained for over 30 years seriously, I definitely know when something works. Even my girlfriend's been asking me if I'm on something. I just have a fuller look.
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eh, too scared to mess with PCT and my body's own test levels. I'm 32 and still get a woody when Victoria Secret commercials come on. I'm too scared to mess with that magic. I talk to other guys my age who are on viagra or whatever due to test dropoffs or blood circulation issues... I fear that.
Day 3 of the creatine... I'm still one windy dude. arms and shoulders popping though, I'm very happy. Taking it with juice each time.
go on hrt and your set
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go on hrt and your set
no way. I'd be on that for life. No sense going ther until I need it.
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I haven't used creatine in almost a year. Started it again this week. Wow, it tears the belly up. I forgot about this side effect. :(
I thought this thread was going to be about roid bellies. :-[
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id be gaining muscle for life!
:D
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I heard good stuff aboul Kre-alkalyn. Nver tried it but I trust it more that Chinese lead enhanced ethyl-ester
This causes bloat 100%. No difference from regular creatine monohydrate. I've tried both. Creabloat face through and through.
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no way. I'd be on that for life. No sense going ther until I need it.
Yeah, I know several guys that are in their mid 20's, screwed up from overly long, high dose steroid cycles. Went through long periods of no libido,depression, no energy. Some will probably need HRT for the rest of their life. But..they can say they were once Big.
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Yeah, I know several guys that are in their mid 20's, screwed up from overly long, high dose steroid cycles. Went through long periods of no libido,depression, no energy. Some will probably need HRT for the rest of their life. But..they can say they were once Big.
why do they say "once" they were big? why did they come off and get smal? why would they do high dosed cycles for long periods of time if they didnt plan on staying on and competing ?
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This causes bloat 100%. No difference from regular creatine monohydrate. I've tried both. Creabloat face through and through.
Really? I haven't seen that anywhere near like on regular creatine. Was it the Sci-fit or EFX brand, although that shouldn't make a big difference. I know female fitness competitors on it that aren't bloating from it.
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why do they say "once" they were big? why did they come off and get smal? why would they do high dosed cycles for long periods of time if they didnt plan on staying on and competing ?
Half the guys in the gyms on juice never compete. How many shows have you been in?
Do you ever plan on entering one? You think people should stay on juice forever..and not worry about their altered HDL or LDL levels? Guess I'm more health conscious that most of these guys.
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Yeah, I know several guys that are in their mid 20's, screwed up from overly long, high dose steroid cycles. Went through long periods of no libido,depression, no energy. Some will probably need HRT for the rest of their life. But..they can say they were once Big.
yeah, that scares me. I have clients and konw folks form the boards who juiced at 19, were legendary at 22, and having all sorts of issues by age 28. Once you tell your body "I don't need the testes to produce test anymore" you can't jumpstart them. They stay on until their receptors are shot, they take breaks when they absolutely have to. And then their prostate blows up, they lose hair, and a shitload of other things. The shot receptors are bad too... even small HRT doesn't work - they have to get the advanced stuff because the nut patch won't kick in for many of them.
It's sad. I admire the young users for their courage and drive to be superman so young... but they should definitely research where they'll be in ten years. Cause for many, it ain't pretty once you alter hormone functions.
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AST makes a good micronized monohydrate and the bloat and upset stomach are almost gone.
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why do they say "once" they were big? why did they come off and get smal? why would they do high dosed cycles for long periods of time if they didnt plan on staying on and competing ?
You be careful man. I admire you for your drive, your politics, and your deep introspection, but I do worry about where you'll physically be in ten years. Talk to guys that were insanely big at 20, when they're 30... many choose to 'size down', but the truth is that many have had scares, many can't afford HRT anymore, and many of them have a doc straight up tell them that test treatment is dangerous for whatever reason.
You're not invincible. What's important at age 20 won't matter to you at all by the time you're 30. Just looking out. peace.
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Yeah, I know several guys that are in their mid 20's, screwed up from overly long, high dose steroid cycles. Went through long periods of no libido,depression, no energy. Some will probably need HRT for the rest of their life. But..they can say they were once Big.
Reminds me of some dudes I met in the gym.
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I haven't used creatine in almost a year. Started it again this week. Wow, it tears the belly up. I forgot about this side effect. :(
Nice thread title! I was expecting to see gh guts!
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How many shows have you been in?
Do you ever plan on entering one?
i have never competed. i will compete if one day i feel that my body is stage worthy. too many fools eneter bodybuilding contests when they are NOT stage worthy. i wont be one of those.
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The shot receptors are bad too... even small HRT doesn't work - they have to get the advanced stuff because the nut patch won't kick in for many of them.
That's false. Testosterone doesn't stop working. There's no reason that standard HRT won't make you feel normal, as normal as any hypogonadal person getting on HRT, if you have cycled steroids previously.
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That's false. Testosterone doesn't stop working. There's no reason that standard HRT won't make you feel normal, as normal as any hypogonadal person getting on HRT, if you have cycled steroids previously.
we will keep that as our litle secret, van. ;D
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You be careful man. I admire you for your drive, your politics, and your deep introspection, but I do worry about where you'll physically be in ten years. Talk to guys that were insanely big at 20, when they're 30... many choose to 'size down', but the truth is that many have had scares, many can't afford HRT anymore, and many of them have a doc straight up tell them that test treatment is dangerous for whatever reason.
You're not invincible. What's important at age 20 won't matter to you at all by the time you're 30. Just looking out. peace.
Candi doesnt do steroids but the meth will take him out quickly ;D
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Candi doesnt do steroids but the meth will take him out quickly ;D
true, so very true