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Bubble guts
« on: July 09, 2008, 06:29:11 PM »
I haven't used creatine in almost a year.  Started it again this week.  Wow, it tears the belly up.  I forgot about this side effect.   :(

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2008, 06:32:32 PM »
use controlled labs creatine...no stomach upset
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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2008, 06:39:54 PM »
i can't fuck with it. i get massive headaches
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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2008, 06:41:34 PM »
i can't fuck with it. i get massive headaches


from dehydration?

I got the same headaches when I'd drink all night and go to sleep.  Since I added more water to my drinking binges, the headaches have stopped.  I"m thinking it's the same with creatine.


use controlled labs creatine...no stomach upset

I'm just using the cheap powder stuff.  I need to order some good premixed powder.  Old stuff just works so well for me.  I'll seriously add ten pounds of water in 2 weeks.

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2008, 06:42:13 PM »
I can take 100 grams of creatine in one day without problems. Never did anything to my stomach.

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 07:09:41 PM »
I can take 100 grams of creatine in one day without problems. Never did anything to my stomach.

epic 20 heaping teaspoons.

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 07:10:47 PM »
I haven't used creatine in almost a year.  Started it again this week.  Wow, it tears the belly up.  I forgot about this side effect.   :(

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2008, 07:16:01 PM »
Creatine: How to fuck up your kidney function and cause irreversible damage.

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2008, 07:22:06 PM »
Creatine: How to fuck up your kidney function and cause irreversible damage.
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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2008, 07:23:08 PM »
I can take 100 grams of creatine in one day without problems. Never did anything to my stomach.

...but it turns my shit purple

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2008, 07:49:21 PM »
from dehydration?

I got the same headaches when I'd drink all night and go to sleep.  Since I added more water to my drinking binges, the headaches have stopped.  I"m thinking it's the same with creatine.


I'm just using the cheap powder stuff.  I need to order some good premixed powder.  Old stuff just works so well for me.  I'll seriously add ten pounds of water in 2 weeks.

no idea. whenever I used it for about a week I would start getting these crazy headaches.
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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2008, 07:49:57 PM »
i havent used creatine in like a year... i dont think it ever did anything for me

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2008, 07:59:01 PM »
I havent used creatine for ages. Never noticed anything when on it, other than an upset stomach. Guess im a non responder to creatine...
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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2008, 08:23:21 PM »
Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2008, 08:33:38 PM »
Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.

I heard good stuff aboul Kre-alkalyn. Nver tried it but I trust it more that Chinese lead enhanced ethyl-ester

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2008, 08:40:20 PM »
Creatine works for me.
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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2008, 08:54:58 PM »
never really did much for me when i tried it back in freshman year

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2008, 09:03:49 PM »
You are supposed to take it with sugar

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2008, 09:06:38 PM »
Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.

i use kre-alkalyn, good stuff

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2008, 09:09:36 PM »
Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.

Kre-Alkalyn is just plain old creatine monohydrate mixed with a buffer like bicarbonate. The reason for less sides is that you take less of it. I see absolutely no reason why it would cause less water retention than straight monohydrate, apart from the lower dosage.

And a study actually showed Kre-Alkalyn to be less stable in water than regular monohydrate.



Kre-alkalyn® supplementation has no beneficial effect on creatine-to-creatinine conversion rates.

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1University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, 2Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. DrTallon@CR-Technologies.net

All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp. (Billings, MT, USA) claim that Kre-alkalyn® (KA) a “Buffered” creatine, is 100% stable in stomach acid and does not convert to creatinine. In contrast, they also claim that creatine monohydrate (CM) is highly pH labile with more than 90% of the creatine converting to the degradation product creatinine in stomach acids. To date, no independent or university laboratory has evaluated the stability of KA in stomach acids, assessed its possible conversion to creatinine, or made direct comparisons of acid stability with CM.

This study examined whether KA supplementation reduced the rate of creatine conversion to creatinine, relative to commercially available CM (CreapureÒ). Creatine products were analyzed by an independent commercial laboratory using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37± 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes and immediately analyzed by HPLC (UV) for creatine and creatinine.

In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.


Supported by Cr-Technologies, LLP, London, England

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2008, 09:13:40 PM »
Try Kre-alkalyn creatine. Been using it for 6 weeks. I didn't use creatine for several years because I always looked smooth and watery on it. This stuff has put about 7 pounds on me, no loss of definition, great fullness and pumps. No water retention or stomach issues. I thought the ads were Bullshit, cause they all claim no side effects. The name of the version I used is Creatine Infusion (Kre-Alkalyn) from Sci-fit. Apparently altering the PH level of the creatine prevents the conversion to the byproducts that cause the sides. I am taking more than they suggest, but it won't mess with your stomach, and this is supposedly the only stable Liquid formula of creatine.
Sci-fit is the only brand that works for me.........I tried every type of creatine I could get my hands on, none of it worked until I tried the Sci-fit brand Kre-Alkalyn.

Good stuff.
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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2008, 09:14:02 PM »
Kre-Alkalyn is just plain old creatine monohydrate mixed with a buffer like bicarbonate. The reason for less sides is that you take less of it. I see absolutely no reason why it would cause less water retention than straight monohydrate, apart from the lower dosage.

And a study actually showed Kre-Alkalyn to be less stable in water than regular monohydrate.



Kre-alkalyn® supplementation has no beneficial effect on creatine-to-creatinine conversion rates.

Tallon MJ1 and Child R2

1University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, 2Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. DrTallon@CR-Technologies.net

All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp. (Billings, MT, USA) claim that Kre-alkalyn® (KA) a “Buffered” creatine, is 100% stable in stomach acid and does not convert to creatinine. In contrast, they also claim that creatine monohydrate (CM) is highly pH labile with more than 90% of the creatine converting to the degradation product creatinine in stomach acids. To date, no independent or university laboratory has evaluated the stability of KA in stomach acids, assessed its possible conversion to creatinine, or made direct comparisons of acid stability with CM.

This study examined whether KA supplementation reduced the rate of creatine conversion to creatinine, relative to commercially available CM (CreapureÒ). Creatine products were analyzed by an independent commercial laboratory using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37± 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes and immediately analyzed by HPLC (UV) for creatine and creatinine.

In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.


Supported by Cr-Technologies, LLP, London, England


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I wonder though, who paid for that study to be done  ;D
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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2008, 02:39:24 AM »
A just question!

these guys: http://www.cr-technologies.net/

basically a competitor, so you can flush that study down the loo.

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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2008, 04:35:37 AM »
I'll seriously add ten pounds of water in 2 weeks.

Just do a d-bol only cycle and you will be just as happy ... ;)
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Re: Bubble guts
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2008, 06:20:30 AM »
Just do a d-bol only cycle and you will be just as happy ... ;)

eh, too scared to mess with PCT and my body's own test levels.  I'm 32 and still get a woody when Victoria Secret commercials come on.  I'm too scared to mess with that magic.  I talk to other guys my age who are on viagra or whatever due to test dropoffs or blood circulation issues... I fear that.

Day 3 of the creatine... I'm still one windy dude.  arms and shoulders popping though, I'm very happy.  Taking it with juice each time.