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ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS >:( THIS IS THEIR COVER >:(
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080714/capt.adbaab2dfc544d1ab4f30612a2e46cd7.obama_new_yorker_nyr101.jpg)
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You can't see it in the pic but the cover also shows an American flag burning in the fireplace ??? Ok, yea yea, freedom of speech and I agree, they have the right but this is such bad taste I have to exercise my right to say it's pure crap of the New Yorker to have this as a cover... Assholes...
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How can I get a bigger copy of this, I'd like to make it into a poster.
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How can I get a bigger copy of this, I'd like to make it into a poster.
no.
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Fucking awsome......left wing nutbags trying to make a point...way to far.............. ;D ;D ;D
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I assume it's satire
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I assume it's satire
that part is a given... still out of line IMO. yea, their right to do it, my right to bitch about it.
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that part is a given... still out of line IMO. yea, their right to do it, my right to bitch about it.
There is a long history of brutal satire in US Politics. This is basically a political cartoon that is most likely intended to get you fired up to buy the mag and read the article
Is the article fair?
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There is a long history of brutal satire in US Politics. This is basically a political cartoon that is most likely intended to get you fired up to buy the mag and read the article
Is the article fair?
yup, you're right, and I'll still complain about it ;D
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yup, you're right, and I'll still complain about it ;D
of course
isn't that a primary function of this board?
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How can I get a bigger copy of this, I'd like to make it into a poster.
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/07/14/art.cover.ny.jpg)
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According to the renditionist, it was actually meant to be a pro-Obama illustration that pokes fun at the mud that's being flung at him by the likes of Neocon assholes like Hannity and Crowley.
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According to the renditionist, it was actually meant to be a pro-Obama illustration that pokes fun at the mud that's being flung at him by the likes of Neocon assholes like Hannity and Crowley.
that's how I saw it
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Yes, they call this satire, but in reality, this is not cool at all. The funny thing is that the New Yorker is a liberal magazine, and they are putting this out.
Lets see how many people get fired for this obviously slanderful (although they hide behind the 'satire' name) picture.
We get angry when anyone burns an American flag, yet this magazine does it with glee. Jeez.
According to the renditionist, it was actually meant to be a pro-Obama illustration that pokes fun at the mud that's being flung at him by the likes of Neocon assholes like Hannity and Crowley.
Yes, welcome to the liberal thinking. This renditionist is an idiot.
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Yes, they call this satire, but in reality, this is not cool at all. The funny thing is that the New Yorker is a liberal magazine, and they are putting this out.
Lets see how many people get fired for this obviously slanderful (although they hide behind the 'satire' name) picture.
We get angry when anyone burns an American flag, yet this magazine does it with glee. Jeez.
Yes, welcome to the liberal thinking. This renditionist is an idiot.
How can a picture be slander?
Has anyone actually read the article?
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wow they got the terrorist fist bump and everything
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ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS >:( THIS IS THEIR COVER >:(
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080714/capt.adbaab2dfc544d1ab4f30612a2e46cd7.obama_new_yorker_nyr101.jpg)
Hahahahahahah... the wife hates the USA, BO might as well be a black liberationist, and their associates have done much worse than burn flags.
Epic truth even if unintentional.
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Hahahahahahah... the wife hates the USA, BO might as well be a black liberationist, and their associates have done much worse than burn flags.
Epic truth even if unintentional.
there is NO TRUTH - that's why it's funny
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I think it shows the lunacy of what some people will allow them selves to believe.
Other then that, the people who really do believe it will cheer it. While the people who don;t will say it was in bad taste.
I'm still wondering if BO kids are speaking Spanish yet.
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I think it shows the lunacy of what some people will allow them selves to believe.
Other then that, the people who really do believe it will cheer it. While the people who don;t will say it was in bad taste.
I'm still wondering if BO kids are speaking Spanish yet.
I don't believe it and I don't think it's in bad taste either
It's taking all the stupid stuff said about Obama and amplifying it to emphasize the stupidity of it all
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Damn...it's gone up in price...
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I don't believe it and I don't think it's in bad taste either
It's taking all the stupid stuff said about Obama and amplifying it to emphasize the stupidity of it all
Right..
No matter what is exposed about Obama some idiots will still think he'd be a great prez.. I know.
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I don't believe it and I don't think it's in bad taste either
It's taking all the stupid stuff said about Obama and amplifying it to emphasize the stupidity of it all
That's what i'm saying.
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Right..
No matter what is exposed about Obama some idiots will still think he'd be a great prez.. I know.
so what part of this cover do you think accurately represents reality?
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Right..
No matter what is exposed about Obama some idiots will still think he'd be a great prez.. I know.
I don't think he'll be a great president. I don't think as of right now he'll even get elected.
However,
Do you really believe his wifes is a communist and he's a muslim?
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I don't think he'll be a great president. I don't think as of right now he'll even get elected.
However,
Do you really believe his wifes is a communist and he's a muslim?
don't forget terrorist
I like the conspiratorial, over the shoulder glance by Obama
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don't forget terrorist
I like the conspiratorial, over the shoulder glance by Obama
Yeah, that too.
It amazes me what poeple will allow themselves to believe in order to "swallow" what they think they must vote for.
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wow they got the terrorist fist bump and everything
HAHAH ED HILL...WHAT A QUEEF
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Hahahahahahah... the wife hates the USA, BO might as well be a black liberationist, and their associates have done much worse than burn flags.
Epic truth even if unintentional.
HAHAHAHA EPIC LETTING FOX NEWS RW MACHINE THINK FOR YOU
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HAHAHAHA EPIC LETTING FOX NEWS RW MACHINE THINK FOR YOU
You're a proven moron.. silence yourself.
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perhaps the new yorker was preparing us. Creating the moral high ground for themselves before a bigger cover in a few weeks.
maybe they have an even worse cover in store for mccain. you know, something along the line of calling his wife a C-word while blowing out a birthday cake with 72 actual candles on it, with 5 crashed fighter jets in the background.
Even worse is that nothing in that image would be fiction, eh? ;)
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Michelle has obvious bitterness towards America (especially white America) and along with being a closet socialist I think she harbors more black liberationist views that even Obama.
Obamas associates are enough to give me some idea about what's really going on in his head when he's not saying whatever he thinks people want to hear to get elected.
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Michelle has obvious bitterness towards America (especially white America) and along with being a closet socialist I think she harbors more black liberationist views that even Obama.
Is this all from the " i wasn't proud until..." comment?
Or do you have more?
Obamas associates are enough to give me some idea about what's really going on in his head when he's not saying whatever he thinks people want to hear to get elected.
Is this all from Wrights comments or do you have more?
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Is this all from the " i wasn't proud until..." comment?
Or do you have more?
Is this all from Wrights comments or do you have more?
WAIT...FOX NEWS HASNT GIVEN HIM A RESPONSE YET
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Obama called this man a friend:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
From http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/04/020358.php
The Friends of Barack Obama, Part 1
When Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer decided to retire in 1995, she hand-picked local left-winger Barack Obama as her successor. In order to introduce Obama to influential liberals in the district, she held a function at the home of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. This was, really, the beginning of Obama's political career, and it linked him forever with Ayers and Dohrn, with whom, as his campaign has acknowledged, he continues to have a friendly relationship.
Ayers and Dohrn were famous radicals, and fugitives from the law, in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Dohrn, actually, was the more famous of the two; she was the head, as I recall, of Students for a Democratic Society or one of its factions. Dohrn was crazy. She is the only public figure, to my knowledge, to approve publicly and enthusiastically of the Charles Manson murders.
Ayers was a would-be murderer of soldiers and policemen, but he wasn't a very good terrorist. He had the ill fortune to be the subject of a profile in the New York Times on September 11, 2001, in which he said that he didn't regret his attempted murders and only wished that he had planted more bombs.
In last week's Pennsylvania debate, Barack Obama was finally asked about his friendship with, and the political support he has accepted from, Ayers and Dohrn. Obama replied that Ayers had done reprehensible things forty years ago, when Obama was eight years old, and scoffed at the idea that Ayers's ancient history could be relevant. That was disingenuous, of course, given Ayers's 2001 regrets.
It turns out that we don't have to go back as far as 2001 to find that Obama's friends are as unrepentant as ever. Just last year, Ayers and Dohrn attended a reunion--no kidding--of what must have been the tiny remnant of SDS members who still haven't figured out that they were wrong about everything. Listen to what Bill Ayers, who hosted Barack Obama's first fundraiser, has to say about the United States. Not when Obama was eight years old, but in 2007:
At the same event, Obama's friend and supporter Bernadine Dohrn described the United States as "the monster." Obama was 47 years old at the time:
Barack Obama has declined to repudiate or distance himself from his neighbors, supporters and friends, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. There is a certain consistency of perspective among Obama's friends and mentors, which can be summed up in Jeremiah Wright's memorable phrase: "God damn America."
Oh.. and this wonderful man as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoin_Rezko
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WAIT...FOX NEWS HASNT GIVEN HIM A RESPONSE YET
lol.. figures. Way to repeat what you hear from everyone else about fox instead of thinking for yourself, bitch.
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Obama called this man a friend:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
from your own Wiki link: By 1976 or 1977, with federal charges against both fugitives dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct, Ayers was ready to turn himself in to authorities.
Even more so, how exactly does this make the New Yorker cover an accurate represenation of reality?
It seems like much ado about nothing and mostly a smear campaign of guilt by association made to befuddle certain segments of the voting public:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html
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from your own Wiki link: By 1976 or 1977, with federal charges against both fugitives dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct, Ayers was ready to turn himself in to authorities.
Even more so, how exactly does this make the New Yorker cover an accurate represenation of reality?
It seems like much ado about nothing and mostly a smear campaign of guilt by association made to befuddle certain segments of the voting public:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html
I wonder if he has more......
Because so far, I don't see much other than people he's associated himself with in his past. Hell, every politician has the same issues one way or another.
So it's much, unless of course you count lunacy as the basis for believing something.
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from your own Wiki link: By 1976 or 1977, with federal charges against both fugitives dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct, Ayers was ready to turn himself in to authorities.
A legal loophole has nothing to do with whether or not someone running for president should have associations with people like this.
Even more so, how exactly does this make the New Yorker cover an accurate represenation of reality?
It's not an accurate representation of the image being put out by the Obamas, however, if the American public could see and hear the truth about how they really feel and what they really stand for I think it would be a lot closer than anyone would be comfortable with (minus the OBL painting on the wall). No one knows who they really are at their core. They spend so much effort hiding their socialist, elitist, and radical values since they know he would never get elected by being honest.
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I wonder if he has more......
Because so far, I don't see much other than people he's associated himself with in his past. Hell, every politician has the same issues one way or another.
So it's much, unless of course you count lunacy as the basis for believing something.
Ha! I don't think many politicians have had so many and ones as bad as Obama. The church alone was startling and offensive to almost all of America and promptly ignored by all these morons on the Obama wagon who buy into the hype. Every O supporter I meet has no understanding of politics and can't defend their views (or cite his policies).
You really shouldn't be a mod.
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lol.. figures. Way to repeat what you hear from everyone else about fox instead of thinking for yourself, bitch.
lol youre a tough little internet guy huh...and re: fox news...it isnt hard to see the skew they put to their alleged news...i dont have to repeat anything...i watched ed hill call out the terroist fist bump...
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If only The Boondocks was still on TV
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If only The Boondocks was still on TV
You gonna pay what you owe! :)
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Ha! I don't think many politicians have had so many and ones as bad as Obama. The church alone was startling and offensive to almost all of America and promptly ignored by all these morons on the Obama wagon who buy into the hype. Every O supporter I meet has no understanding of politics and can't defend their views (or cite his policies).
You really shouldn't be a mod.
You should really get a clue.
Have you assumed I'm voting for him?
Probably, becuase in your limited mind, you believe all this crap that BO is a cummy, muslim terrorist and becuase i don;t agree with your skewed nipple whore view of the world i must be a American hating liberal right?
And the best you have to back it up with concerning BO is some people he associated with?
And this makes him a muslim terrorist? You are still as stupid as you were a few months ago when you said: "We are no where near over extended"
Oh please, ::) get something REAL.
Otherwise we can't talk about how McCain didn't love America and went to a church with someone who thought Katrina was God wrath for all the sin in NO and how his wife is a druggie whore thief.
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You should really get a clue.
Have you assumed I'm voting for him?
Probably, becuase in your limited mind, you believe all this crap that BO is a cummy, muslim terrorist and becuase i don;t agree with your skewed nipple whore view of the world i must be a American hating liberal right?
And the best you have to back it up with concerning BO is some people he associated with?
And this makes him a muslim terrorist? You are still as stupid as you were a few months ago when you said: "We are no where near over extended"
Oh please, ::) get something REAL.
Otherwise we can't talk about how McCain didn't love America and went to a church with someone who thought Katrina was God wrath for all the sin in NO and how his wife is a druggie whore thief.
HAHAHAHA BB HAS BEEN OZMOWNED
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Otherwise we can't talk about how McCain didn't love America and went to a church with someone who thought Katrina was God wrath for all the sin in NO and how his wife is a druggie whore thief.
Does not sound factual to me Ozmo. :-\
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Does not sound factual to me Ozmo. :-\
Doesn't sound factual or are you just challenging me to prove it?
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Doesn't sound factual or are you just challenging me to prove it?
Both. What's the factual basis for your contention that McCain "went to a church with someone who thought Katrina was God wrath for all the sin in NO"?
And that Cindy McCain "is a druggie whore thief"? Present tense.
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Both. What's the factual basis for your contention that McCain "went to a church with someone who thought Katrina was God wrath for all the sin in NO"?
And that Cindy McCain "is a druggie whore thief"? Present tense.
Thanks for bringing that up.
Correction: He cut ties with them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/us/politics/23hagee.html?fta=y (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/us/politics/23hagee.html?fta=y)
As for Cindy,
She was addicted to drugs and stole to get them.
present or not. Doesn't matter much to me here.
She's a durggie thief.
Stupid logic huh?
:)
PS: McCain did say he didn't love America. just google it. :)
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lol youre a tough little internet guy huh...and re: fox news...it isnt hard to see the skew they put to their alleged news...i dont have to repeat anything...i watched ed hill call out the terroist fist bump...
you sound like a bitch crying about fox news like everyone else who can't stand to see people tell the truth, so ya..
..and what?
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You should really get a clue.
Have you assumed I'm voting for him?
Probably, becuase in your limited mind, you believe all this crap that BO is a cummy, muslim terrorist and becuase i don;t agree with your skewed nipple whore view of the world i must be a American hating liberal right?
And the best you have to back it up with concerning BO is some people he associated with?
And this makes him a muslim terrorist? You are still as stupid as you were a few months ago when you said: "We are no where near over extended"
Oh please, ::) get something REAL.
Otherwise we can't talk about how McCain didn't love America and went to a church with someone who thought Katrina was God wrath for all the sin in NO and how his wife is a druggie whore thief.
MELTDOWN
yeah and where did i say he was a muslim terrorist, jackass?
can't type, can't debate, can't handle honesty, can't keep your emotions in check.. once again
YOU SHOULDN'T BE A MOD
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you sound like a bitch crying about fox news like everyone else who can't stand to see people tell the truth, so ya..
..and what?
fox news tells the truth...that statement alone=i will never take anything you say serious
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Thanks for bringing that up.
Correction: He cut ties with them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/us/politics/23hagee.html?fta=y (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/us/politics/23hagee.html?fta=y)
As for Cindy,
She was addicted to drugs and stole to get them.
present or not. Doesn't matter much to me here.
She's a durggie thief.
Stupid logic huh?
:)
PS: McCain did say he didn't love America. just google it. :)
Where in that story does it say McCain went to Hagee's church?
You called Cindy McCain "a druggie whore thief." I understand why you said "druggie" and "thief," but why are you calling her a "whore"?
Also, present tense may not matter to you, but it does to me and probably many others. My best friend had a drug problem and he's the smartest man I know. Very accomplished. His lifetime body of work is outstanding. Same with Cindy McCain. I was very impressed with her after reading Susan Page's story.
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MELTDOWN
yeah and where did i say he was a muslim terrorist, jackass?
can't type, can't debate, can't handle honesty, can't keep your emotions in check.. once again
YOU SHOULDN'T BE A MOD
::) that was supposed to be meltdown? More evidence you need a more than just a clue.
Pathetic deflection attempt. Maybe you can have the balls to answer the questions then instead of running from them.
Do you believe what the cover suggests?
Next,
Have you assumed I'm voting for him?
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Where in that story does it say McCain went to Hagee's church?
You called Cindy McCain "a druggie whore thief." I understand why you said "druggie" and "thief," but why are you calling her a "whore"?
Also, present tense may not matter to you, but it does to me and probably many others. My best friend had a drug problem and he's the smartest man I know. Very accomplished. His lifetime body of work is outstanding. Same with Cindy McCain. I was very impressed with her after reading Susan Page's story.
Ehh, mainly for effect. :) point taken.
However,
Do you know the Cindy McCain as well as you know your best friend?
For that matter do you know Michelle Obama as well as your best friend?
BTW: If your friend was truly an addict, he'll tell you he still is one.
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Ehh, mainly for effect. :) point taken.
However,
Do you know the Cindy McCain as well as you know your best friend?
For that matter do you know Michelle Obama as well as your best friend?
BTW: If your friend was truly an addict, he'll tell you he still is one.
I don't know Cindy McCain at all. All I know is what I read and hear. What I read about her as a wife, mother, and community activist is pretty impressive.
I'll ask my friend if he still considers himself an addict. I don't and would never call him that, particularly in a derisive way.
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I don't know Cindy McCain at all. All I know is what I read and hear. What I read about her as a wife, mother, and community activist is pretty impressive.
I'll ask my friend if he still considers himself an addict. I don't and would never call him that, particularly in a derisive way.
Certainly.
I have a close friend who was addicted to heroin. And have had many other friends over the years who were addicted at one time or another. The ones who were successful as overcoming their addiction always refer to themselves as addicts. that's one of the ways they stay clean. Everyday is a new challenge to stay sober.
I don't know Cindy either save what i read and hear. My main points to all of this is that, the picture of Michelle and Barrack will be taken as fact to some and they will use much of the same screwy logic i used.
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fox news tells the truth...that statement alone=i will never take anything you say serious
They lie through their teeth and pretty much generalize everything to their pov. Some of their captions are probably done on purpose, I mean there's one every single week usually taking a snipe at Obama. When they have guests with an opposing pov, that guest hardly gets any airtime because the host cuts across and lets the other dominate the discussion. Horrible journalism..
I don't understand all this secret muslim bullshit. Attack the guy on his policies and don't take these cheap shots :-\
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Certainly.
I have a close friend who was addicted to heroin. And have had many other friends over the years who were addicted at one time or another. The ones who were successful as overcoming their addiction always refer to themselves as addicts. that's one of the ways they stay clean. Everyday is a new challenge to stay sober.
I don't know Cindy either save what i read and hear. My main points to all of this is that, the picture of Michelle and Barrack will be taken as fact to some and they will use much of the same screwy logic i used.
I agree. People do take things out of context all the time.
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A legal loophole has nothing to do with whether or not someone running for president should have associations with people like this.
for the record:
Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 1999 and 2002. In addition, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001, as reported here. They lived within a few blocks of each other in the trendy Hyde Park section of Chicago, and moved in the same liberal-progressive circles.
wow - what a scandal.
It's not an accurate representation of the image being put out by the Obamas, however, if the American public could see and hear the truth about how they really feel and what they really stand for I think it would be a lot closer than anyone would be comfortable with (minus the OBL painting on the wall). No one knows who they really are at their core. They spend so much effort hiding their socialist, elitist, and radical values since they know he would never get elected by being honest.
If you want to bitch about an Elitist with Radical Values then let's start with Our Dear Leader who has complete disdain for the lower and middle class of our country and seems to want to turn our country into the Fourth Reich.
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fox news tells the truth...that statement alone=i will never take anything you say serious
Oh really.. and what lies do you think they have stated?
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::) that was supposed to be meltdown? More evidence you need a more than just a clue.
Pathetic deflection attempt. Maybe you can have the balls to answer the questions then instead of running from them.
Do you believe what the cover suggests?
Next,
Have you assumed I'm voting for him?
What question? The cover is an exaggeration obviously (which I already said num-nuts). That doesn't mean the real Obamas aren't closer to that image than anyone wants in a prez (which I ALSO already said).
Maybe you could find the balls to admit you're too biased to have ever been a mod for a politics board.
I could care less whether you would vote for him or not, if you sit here and defend him than you're almost as guilty as voting for him.
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for the record:
Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 1999 and 2002. In addition, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001, as reported here. They lived within a few blocks of each other in the trendy Hyde Park section of Chicago, and moved in the same liberal-progressive circles.
wow - what a scandal.
Hahahahahah!! You're right!! There is no scandal!! His friendship with a lefty terrorist is out in the open and ignored by people too stupid to see past the hype.
If you want to bitch about an Elitist with Radical Values then let's start with Our Dear Leader who has complete disdain for the lower and middle class of our country and seems to want to turn our country into the Fourth Reich.
Wrong AND weak attempt.
Democrats standing in the way of developing our own oil supply are costing the middle class more than Bush ever will. And how bout all the Bush tax cuts your side wants to repeal? Sounds like your boys hate the middle class more than ever.
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What question? The cover is an exaggeration obviously (which I already said num-nuts). That doesn't mean the real Obamas aren't closer to that image than anyone wants in a prez (which I ALSO already said).
Maybe you could find the balls to admit you're too biased to have ever been a mod for a politics board.
I could care less whether you would vote for him or not, if you sit here and defend him than you're almost as guilty as voting for him.
What a tard.........lol
If i defend him, I'm almost as guilty as voting for him?
Dude, you got serous hate issues. You should seek counseling.
And what a another pathetic attempt at a deflecting your wrong assumption of me voting for him.
Label and hate. That's your MO. What a sad piece of sh1t.
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What a tard.........lol
If i defend him, I'm almost as guilty as voting for him?
Dude, you got serous hate issues. You should seek counseling.
And what a another pathetic attempt at a deflecting your wrong assumption of me voting for him.
Label and hate. That's your MO. What a sad piece of sh1t.
Influencing others is almost as bad voting for the scumbag himself, absolutely.
I never assumed you we're voting for him.. it was irrelevant.
Way to say nothing.
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Hahahahahah!! You're right!! There is no scandal!! His friendship with a lefty terrorist is out in the open and ignored by people too stupid to see past the hype.
Wrong AND weak attempt.
Democrats standing in the way of developing our own oil supply are costing the middle class more than Bush ever will. And how bout all the Bush tax cuts your side wants to repeal? Sounds like your boys hate the middle class more than ever.
We're about to spin off on 3 different tangents and I don't really have the time.
The problem of fossil fuels is equally shared by Dem and Repugs (ok the Repugs have a bit more the blame). If you think the Bush Tax cuts have helped just go over to Bloomberg and see how much they've helped so far.
On a more serious note - there are plenty of reason to not like Obama. If you're hung up on a total non-issue/non-event like Ayers then you're just not trying that hard
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Influencing others is almost as bad voting for the scumbag himself, absolutely.
I never assumed you we're voting for him.. it was irrelevant.
Way to say nothing.
Influencing others is as bad as voting for the scumbag himself?
I had no idea i had that much influence on GB.
so are you gonna vote for Obama them?
::)
You are such a dumba$$.
Not to mention, 99% of what i post rips McCain. Of recent I've been ripping BO.
Why talk about this?
It only goes to show your MO in effect and just how stupid you really are.
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Way to say nothing.
No, way for me to say something everyone already knows:
"Label and hate. That's your MO. What a sad piece of sh1t."
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Lets see how many people get fired for this obviously slanderful (although they hide behind the 'satire' name) picture.
Let's see... political speech, satitre, public figure, take your pick... there are dozens of supreme court cases going back decades that say that particular pic is 100% okay. Sorry, but that's not slander according to the law.
Now a photoshop of you in a swastika t-shirt on the other hand, that's another matter. I say you sue Matt C! :D
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All I see is a towel headed socialist about to ruin america even further.
Did I miss anything?
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We're about to spin off on 3 different tangents and I don't really have the time.
The problem of fossil fuels is equally shared by Dem and Repugs (ok the Repugs have a bit more the blame). If you think the Bush Tax cuts have helped just go over to Bloomberg and see how much they've helped so far.
On a more serious note - there are plenty of reason to not like Obama. If you're hung up on a total non-issue/non-event like Ayers then you're just not trying that hard
No way, dems in congress are far more to blame than the GOP. And you think repealing them will help the middle class?!?! Like I said.. WEAK.
I'm not hung up on it as much as you think.. obviously I have serious issues with socialism in general, and flip-flopping. The character stuff is what is in question after that cover so that's why I'm on it.. duh.
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All I see is a towel headed socialist about to ruin america even further.
Did I miss anything?
Yeah. Muslim. You forgot that.
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Influencing others is as bad as voting for the scumbag himself?
I had no idea i had that much influence on GB.
so are you gonna vote for Obama them?
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You are such a dumba$$.
Not to mention, 99% of what i post rips McCain. Of recent I've been ripping BO.
Why talk about this?
It only goes to show your MO in effect and just how stupid you really are.
You certainly have more influence as a mod.. which you shouldn't be. :D
It must be frustrating when trying to defend Obamas character ends in disaster and you hurling petty insults.
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Yeah. Muslim. You forgot that.
So is Barak Hussein a muslim himself?
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"Label and hate.
What a sad piece of sh1t."
Irony
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You certainly have more influence as a mod.. which you shouldn't be. :D
I do? Wow, you really live/think in a small place don't you?
It must be frustrating when trying to defend Obamas character ends in disaster and you hurling petty insults.
I'm not defending his character. Just keeping it from getting out of hand.
I have enough issues with his character as of late. But you are too filled with hate to see past the labels you place.
Irony
Not much Irony, simple truth concerning you.
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So is Barak Hussein a muslim himself?
No, it's what the pic suggests.
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No way, dems in congress are far more to blame than the GOP. And you think repealing them will help the middle class?!?! Like I said.. WEAK.
I'm not hung up on it as much as you think.. obviously I have serious issues with socialism in general, and flip-flopping. The character stuff is what is in question after that cover so that's why I'm on it.. duh.
BBG - with all due respect, you're far too dense to have a real conversation much less an actual debate. You're the one that first mentioned the Bush tax cuts and the issue of oil.
They are completely different topics (on both of which you seem clueless). I think I'll try a page out of your play book and just say WEAK.
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BBG - with all due respect, you're far too dense to have a real conversation much less an actual debate. You're the one that first mentioned the Bush tax cuts and the issue of oil.
They are completely different topics (on both of which you seem clueless). I think I'll try a page out of your play book and just say WEAK.
Label and Hate, that's the boy's MO.
Give him a break. :)
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I'm not defending his character. Just keeping it from getting out of hand.
Call it what you want.. sounds like a bad excuse to me.
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BBG - with all due respect, you're far too dense to have a real conversation much less an actual debate. You're the one that first mentioned the Bush tax cuts and the issue of oil.
They are completely different topics (on both of which you seem clueless). I think I'll try a page out of your play book and just say WEAK.
Please.. you look like a fool every time you start typing and you call me dense, LOL!
Actually, the first one to try and change the subject was YOU with this wonderfully objective statement:
If you want to bitch about an Elitist with Radical Values then let's start with Our Dear Leader who has complete disdain for the lower and middle class of our country and seems to want to turn our country into the Fourth Reich.
But keep talking.. your blunders are hilarious.
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Don't you guys ever get tired of being wrong?
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Call it what you want.. sounds like a bad excuse to me.
Really?
The new yorker puts a cover out with BO dressed as a muslim, a flag burning on the fire place and Michelle dressed as a militant and i comment on how it's possible people actually believe it and that they shouldn't.
And that's defending his character?
Oh brother, ::)
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No, it's what the pic suggests.
I'm very confused. I don't follow politics much but instead rely on intellectual media elites to inform me.
I feel mislead now and confused. I may vote for McCain now.
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Please.. you look like a fool every time you start typing and you call me dense, LOL!
Actually, the first one to try and change the subject was YOU with this wonderfully objective statement:
But keep talking.. your blunders are hilarious.
again - this a perfect example of why you are dense. My statement was in response to your parroting of the absurd accusation that Obama is elitist. I was just trying to give you some perspective on the charge of being an elitist with radical values.
Clearly - the reference went right over your head. I'll aim lower next time.
It's not an accurate representation of the image being put out by the Obamas, however, if the American public could see and hear the truth about how they really feel and what they really stand for I think it would be a lot closer than anyone would be comfortable with (minus the OBL painting on the wall). No one knows who they really are at their core. They spend so much effort hiding their socialist, elitist, and radical values since they know he would never get elected by being honest.
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again - this a perfect example of why you are dense. My statement was in response to your parroting of the absurd accusation that Obama is elitist. I was just trying to give you some perspective on the charge of being an elitist with radical values.
Clearly - the reference went right over your head. I'll aim lower next time.
This statement has nothing to do with your last.. just because you have a poor position in the first place doesn't mean you shouldn't be called out for your BS, which I am forced to do often because that seems to be the only thing you're good for.
Now let me put my boots on.
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I'm very confused. I don't follow politics much but instead rely on intellectual media elites to inform me.
I feel mislead now and confused. I may vote for McCain now.
Yes, you should have to begin with. Anything bad McCain thinks up that could be bad for the USA he'll potentially forget due to his old age.
;D
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This statement has nothing to do with your last.. just because you have a poor position in the first place doesn't mean you shouldn't be called out for your BS, which I am forced to do often because that seems to be the only thing you're good for.
Now let me put my boots on.
how many more times are you're going to prove my point that you're just obtuse.
go back and read and try to figure it out for yourself
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Yes, you should have to begin with. Anything bad McCain thinks up that could be bad for the USA he'll potentially forget due to his old age.
;D
One vote for McCain. I don't believe in taxing our way out of "issues".
Obama loves the taxation. American doesn't.
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how many more times are you're going to prove my point that you're just obtuse.
go back and read and try to figure it out for yourself
As many times as Ozclown accuses me of labeling and hating and then proceeds to label me and hate me. : P
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As many times as Ozclown accuses me of labeling and hating and then proceeds to label me and hate me. : P
No, I love ya.
that's why i persist in showing you who you are.
;D
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Obama is just a
Governor Senator, if people want to be outraged, then get mad about what our media says about our current and great President of the United States.
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As many times as Ozclown accuses me of labeling and hating and then proceeds to label me and hate me. : P
uh....ok
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Obama is just a Governor, if people want to be outraged, then get mad about what our media says about our current and great President of the United States.
?
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Obama is just a Governor, if people want to be outraged, then get mad about what our media says about our current and great President of the United States.
LOLOLOLOL.... :D
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I meant Senator :P
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LOLOLOLOL.... :D
well what do you expect from a guy who thinks Obama is a governor
BBD- you're officially no longer the dumbest person on this thread
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Controversial New Yorker Cover Featuring 'Unpatriotic' Obamas Draws Ire
Tuesday July 15, 2008
CityNews.ca Staff
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Like it or loathe it, the cover of the latest issue of The New Yorker is bound to get your attention.
Splashed across the front of the publication's July 21 issue is a political cartoon depicting Barack Obama and his wife as flag-burning radicals. The Democratic presidential candidate is dressed in Muslim attire while Michelle Obama is clad in camouflage with an assault rifle slung over her shoulder. Titled The Politics of Fear, the illustration by Canadian Barry Blitt is raising eyebrows on both sides of the border.
"It might have been a bad decision. It's the sort of thing that could really backfire on them," opines one person asked on the streets of Toronto who saw the magazine.
Another adds, "I think it's terrible, really insulting and in very bad taste."
The illustration has the Obama camp up in arms, arguing the sketch, which also includes a portrait of what appears to be Osama bin Laden hanging on the wall, is "tasteless and offensive."
The illustration isn't explained in the issue, which contains a story about Obama's early years in Chicago. However in responding to the controversy the magazine contends satire is part of what it's always done. New Yorker editor David Remnick says the cover was not meant to be an attention-getter.
"I can't speak for anyone else's interpretations, all I can say is that it combines a number of images that have been propagated, not by everyone on the right but by some, about Obama's supposed 'lack of patriotism' or his being 'soft on terrorism' or the idiotic notion that somehow Michelle Obama is the second coming of the Weathermen or most violent Black Panthers," he maintains. "That somehow all this is going to come to the Oval Office."
Republican presidential candidate John McCain has also condemned the cover.
The issue won't hit newsstands in Toronto until later this week.
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Wow, ...the desperation of some people is really showing. {sigh} oh well.
"Not meant to be an attention getter" Sha Right! ::) I think someone's nose is growing right about now.
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Wow, ...the desperation of some people is really showing. {sigh} oh well.
"Not meant to be an attention getter" Sha Right! ::) I think someone's nose is growing right about now.
Whose desperation? The cover is obviously a criticism of the anti-Obama crowd.
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Regardless of the motive, you know they count on this cover to get attention. Like most media, sensationalism over substance.
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ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS >:( THIS IS THEIR COVER >:(
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080714/capt.adbaab2dfc544d1ab4f30612a2e46cd7.obama_new_yorker_nyr101.jpg)
Oh Wow, there's already a thread on this. I was looking for it before I event made the post.
And here I thought I was scooping the story. :-[
Mods, could you please merge my thread with this one?
Thanks
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Oh Wow, there's already a thread on this. I was looking for it before I event made the post.
And here I thought I was scooping the story. :-[
Mods, could you please merge my thread with this one?
Thanks
oops :-[ nevermind.
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Can't we just forget about this distraction? It's no more important than an episode of Days of Our Lives. The economy is taking a nose dive and the media and many people on this board just can't let this New Yorker story go. The people are gonna pick up the tab on this economic debacle, heads should be rolling over this situation. Sucked into the drama and ignoring issues of substance, AGAIN.
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Can't we just forget about this distraction? It's no more important than an episode of Days of Our Lives. The economy is taking a nose dive and the media and many people on this board just can't let this New Yorker story go. The people are gonna pick up the tab on this economic debacle, heads should be rolling over this situation. Sucked into the drama and ignoring issues of substance, AGAIN.
There is some substance involved becuase many people actually believe what the cover suggests.
Which is a good example of the state of American politics in that people believe in easily unsubstantiated accusations and lack objectivity.
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There is some substance involved becuase many people actually believe what the cover suggests.
Which is a good example of the state of American politics in that people believe in easily unsubstantiated accusations and lack objectivity.
I hear what your saying however, the seriousness of the current economy, the debt that will be incurred by every working person and the missing leadership by the majority of politicians, compared to this crappy drawing arent even in the same league of importance.
It's frustrating as hell to see this topic go on and on while we're getting economically rammed in the ass.
Rant over.
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I hear what your saying however, the seriousness of the current economy, the debt that will be incurred by every working person and the missing leadership by the majority of politicians, compared to this crappy drawing arent even in the same league of importance.
It's frustrating as hell to see this topic go on and on while we're getting economically rammed in the ass.
Rant over.
But we do talk about the serious things all the time too. I agree to an extent. It gets real annoying when an issue that should have been done the day it happened goes on for a week. But at least here we're not neglecting the serious issues, we have been talking about the economy so it's not like we bailed on everything else to talk about this.
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haha they should have had rev wright in the background, with his hands up like he is praying, or dressed him up in a pimp suit.
oh well guess that can be a cover for a later month
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There is some substance involved becuase many people actually believe what the cover suggests.
Which is a good example of the state of American politics in that people believe in easily unsubstantiated accusations and lack objectivity.
It's not just American politics, ...it permeates all issues, ...including things that would give the public relief from the immense pressures they're feeling right now, as the dollar goes down, and other things go up & up & up (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/whistle.gif)
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America's Satire-a-Thon
Kathleen Parker
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
townhall.com (http://townhall.com)
WASHINGTON -- "Damn you and the likes of you to the bowels of hell, you ignorant racist bastard!"
So wrote an outraged Muslim to political cartoonist Doug Marlette a few years ago after he drew a cartoon featuring the prophet Muhammad.
Tens of thousands of Muslims bellowed, blogged and clogged until servers collapsed with hate mail and death threats.
No cartoon -- or cartoonist -- would go unpunished.
Here we go again.
Similar passions are being expressed this week in response to another cartoon, this time on the cover of the liberal-leaning New Yorker magazine. And this time, those railing against an "offensive" image are not religious fundamentalists of the far right, but political secularists of the far left.
Without even a wink at satire, the same righteous literal-mindedness that we tend to associate with the unenlightened has found expression among those who regard themselves as the most enlightened.
The cartoon prompting this latest run on smelling salts features Barack and Michelle Obama in the Oval Office. The senator, dressed in Muslim garb, is fist-bumping his wife, who sports an Angela Davis afro and wears a rifle slung over her shoulder. An American flag burns in the fireplace, over which hangs a portrait of someone resembling Osama bin Laden.
Get it? The play on exaggerated stereotypes? The un-nuanced spoofing of Americanus Ignoramus? But no.
Oh, the outrage. It's racist! shouts the left. It's stereotyping! Well, duh, cartoons are like that. It's feeding the ignorant misperceptions of the loony right!
As Marlette would say: "Puh-leez."
The intent of the illustration should be clear to anyone attuned to current events. Cartoonist Barry Blitt was poking fun at all the rumors and fearsome phobias circulating about the Obamas among a certain contingent. We know who they are.
Viral e-mails claim, for instance, that Obama is a Muslim; that Obama was sworn into the Senate using a Koran instead of a Bible; that Obama isn't a patriot because he refuses to wear a flag pin or put his hand over his heart during the national anthem; that Michelle Obama is militantly anti-American. And so on.
All these claims have been clarified and/or refuted for anyone curious enough to seek the truth. Even so, a certain percentage of people will continue to believe what they choose no matter what.
In any case, those about whom the outraged presumably are most concerned are: (1) unlikely to pick up a New Yorker; (2) unlikely to be swayed or disabused of their preconceptions. So what exactly are they worried about?
That yahoos just passing by a newsstand will see those images and have their paranoid suspicions confirmed?
Such is elitism at its most self-destructive. Art Spiegelman, Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist and former New Yorker staffer, put it nicely to the San Francisco Chronicle: "The essence of what they're saying is, 'I get it, but I don't trust the people in Kansas to get it.'"
Sanitizing satire either to buffer the sensitivities of those who consider themselves more highly evolved -- or to withhold kindling from those deemed less sophisticated -- is all of a piece.
Ignorance is the common denominator.
While one strain of ignorance likely springs from misinformation or a lack of educated knowledge, the other is more virulent by virtue of its opposite circumstances.
For his part, Obama may be missing a Sister Souljah opportunity to demonstrate both his smarts and his common sense. His campaign has called The New Yorker cover "tasteless and offensive." John McCain chimed in with "totally inappropriate."
Harrumph, harrumph, harrumph.
Far more important than anyone's feelings -- and Obama surely knows this -- is freedom of expression. Yet those who are objecting to the cover apparently think that only certain ideas should be expressed. And that some portion of conservative America is too stupid to get it.
Marlette, who died prematurely a year ago in a freak accident that robbed the world of his necessary voice, would say that we don't need protection from offensive words and images. Instead, he would insist that we need protection from those who would censor ideas they find objectionable and whose literal minds make common cause with fascist fundamentalists everywhere.
In the final calculation, unsophisticated yahoos, to the extent they really are, pose a lesser threat to the nation than an elitist intelligentsia convinced it knows what's best for the rest.
Copyright © 2008 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.
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Once again the collective media get's it wrong and the court jester is the only one who get's it right:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=176628&title=obama-cartoon
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Once again the collective media get's it wrong and the court jester is the only one who get's it right:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=176628&title=obama-cartoon
The official link states "This video is no longer available".
Not sure if it's a bandwidth limitation or simply just more censorship from my isp ... but YouTube has it. :D
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July and Aug are crap months for mag sales. This one's going to be huge. Someone's getting a big bonus!
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July and Aug are crap months for mag sales. This one's going to be huge. Someone's getting a big bonus!
stop... we're not allowed to talk about it. We've been scolded by Jon Stewart ::)
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hahahaha
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And that Cindy McCain "is a druggie whore thief"
show some respect, beach Bum.
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hahahaha
funny, but that is the difference isn't it. I've heard most of the people, unfortunately even Jon Stewart make a comparison to the Muslims freaking out over the cartoons. But that's just wrong, because nobody is saying the New Yorker doesn't have the right to publish the toon, we're exercising out right to disagree with the cartoon. The Muslims called for the death of people over cartoons while we just said took issue with them doing it, not threatend their lives for doing it. So there is a huge difference. One is normal, the other is crazy. I'm kind of disappointed in Jon Stewart, he doesn't often get it wrong but he did on this.
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hilarious!
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Just to be fair. Maybe we'll see this on the next cover of the New Yorker. lol
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show some respect, beach Bum.
Note how you took my comment out of context, ommited the question mark, and failed to indicate that I was quoting Ozmo's comments. I expect nothing less from a CT nut. :)
Both. What's the factual basis for your contention that McCain "went to a church with someone who thought Katrina was God wrath for all the sin in NO"?
And that Cindy McCain "is a druggie whore thief"? Present tense.
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hahahaha
LOL! ;D
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And that Cindy McCain "is a druggie whore thief"
show some respect, beach Bum.
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Just to be fair. Maybe we'll see this on the next cover of the New Yorker. lol
That or he might have a few in his cheeks. :D
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You righties don't actually compare this to the muslim freak on cartoons do you ???
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You righties don't actually compare this to the muslim freak on cartoons do you ???
It was a joke.
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That or he might have a few in his cheeks. :D
mccain has swollen glands in his cheeks.
Are his health problems funny to you, beach bum?
Show some respect to the man.
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::)
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July and Aug are crap months for mag sales. This one's going to be huge. Someone's getting a big bonus!
:o {YIKES!!!} There's a magazine called "Your Business at Home" hitting the newstands mid August.
I guess it's the September issue, ...but I hope it does very well. There'll be a great story from cover to cover. (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/whistle.gif)
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Vanity Fair makes a spoof on The New Yorker's cover last week:
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I assume it's satire
Yup, but the problem is that 95% of the country does not understand satire and take it as actual fact...
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ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS >:( THIS IS THEIR COVER >:(
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080714/capt.adbaab2dfc544d1ab4f30612a2e46cd7.obama_new_yorker_nyr101.jpg)
BUMP - they seemed more accurate than you knew no?
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BUMP - they seemed more accurate than you knew no?
ignoring the Bus in Va thread now