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Imagine if this guy was born 15 years later and had access to Ronnie or Jay's pharmaceutical regime, along with being able to trian full time....
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Imagine if this guy was born 15 years later and had access to Ronnie or Jay's pharmaceutical regime, along with being able to trian full time....
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Lets count the lies in the vid;
1- Arms= 26 inches, real life, measured at 21 (Flex Magazine).
2- Weight off season= 360# real life- 270# (Flex Magazine).
3- Weight contest shape= 330#, real life-never in "contest shape", always 15-20# over.
His legs were measured at 33 inches, which is pretty damn big.
I saw Vic in Venice in 1982 so (an the boardwalk), before he made ANY magazines and was not known outside of Venice-he was the biggest guy in town-including Haney. I always thought if this is how big the unknown guys are in Venice then this is the place to train.
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if if if, who fucking cares ::)
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Imagine if this guy was born 15 years later and had access to Ronnie or Jay's pharmaceutical regime, along with being able to trian full time....
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VICTOR WAS ACTUALLY MORE AWESOME THAN RONNIE AND CERTAINLY MORE AWESOME THAN BORING JAY is today...
He had the WHOLE package: Calves, Forearms, Legs, Hams Chest, Back EVERYTHING!!!! I don't know what he was using, but whatever it is I should get some...
Ever wonder why BB form the 70s and 80s look better than today??? Flat stomachs, tiny waists, live a long time...
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I met him in his prime time.
Yeah. He was huge 124kg.
But his muscle was like baloon.
NOT HARD AT ALL.
Ronnie is certainly better. His muscle is grnite hard and heavier.
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Tons of water and no back = hype machine.
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I met him in his prime time.
Yeah. He was huge 124kg.
But his muscle was like baloon.
NOT HARD AT ALL.
Ronnie is certainly better. His muscle is grnite hard and heavier.
Spot on.
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Tons of water and no back = hype machine.
True-his back was his only weak area.
I met him in his prime time.
Yeah. He was huge 124kg.
But his muscle was like baloon.
NOT HARD AT ALL.
Yes, he needed to drop more weight-incluidng hte water.
But Samir had the exact same problem, and he fixed it. Would have been cool to see Vic drop the water.
When Rich Gasapri beat Vic in a Teenage show (LA Open-Teenage??) Vic flipped out and said it was racist. Rich won becuse he was shredded wheat and Vic was a blob of water and muscle-sort of like how Chet Yorton beat Arnold at the 67 Universe ;D
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no discipline
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Victor will be 63 yrs old next month.
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Victor will be 63 yrs old next month.
You mean to say he was 50 years old when he appeared on stage side by side with Dorian Yates and Lou Ferrigno in 1994??? No fucking way!
As for Vegas who is calling bluff to Victor's arm size, yet Vegas claims to have 21"....hahahaha. EPIC due as I say not as I do complex! ::)
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IF he could have ever come in dry like Yates, Ray, etc.,...Jesus...
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You mean to say he was 50 years old when he appeared on stage side by side with Dorian Yates and Lou Ferrigno in 1994??? No fucking way!
As for Vegas who is calling bluff to Victor's arm size, yet Vegas claims to have 21"....hahahaha. EPIC due as I say not as I do complex! ::)
Vic is about45, 46
I can go arm to arm with Vic I think ::)
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I remember TREVOR SMITH having done a few interviews with Vic Richards, and Vic goes into details about how it was all politics.
One story I remember him talking about was a show, can't remember which one, that Dorian was competing in, Vic and prepared for and was already pumped up and ready to go out, but at the last minute, the "powers that be" did not allow Vic to compete. Something about keeping him off the stage because of high hopes for Dorian ::) Not sure if anyone can dig up the interview, but yeah, Vic got screwed pretty hard :-\
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vic richards as good as he was couldnt have beat dorain in any stage of his pro career, on condition alone,,
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True-his back was his only weak area.
Yes, he needed to drop more weight-incluidng hte water.
But Samir had the exact same problem, and he fixed it. Would have been cool to see Vic drop the water.
When Rich Gasapri beat Vic in a Teenage show (LA Open-Teenage??) Vic flipped out and said it was racist. Rich won becuse he was shredded wheat and Vic was a blob of water and muscle-sort of like how Chet Yorton beat Arnold at the 67 Universe ;D
Yeah, the fucking race card-weak ass excuse.
Just runs parallel with the fact the Richards was a lazy shit, plain and simple. Would have never beaten top guys or many second-tier pros...which is why he always avoided comp and made excuses...just to maintain his pathetic 'mystique'
By the way, he is 44
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VICTOR WAS ACTUALLY MORE AWESOME THAN RONNIE AND CERTAINLY MORE AWESOME THAN BORING JAY is today...
He had the WHOLE package: Calves, Forearms, Legs, Hams Chest, Back EVERYTHING!!!! I don't know what he was using, but whatever it is I should get some...
Ever wonder why BB form the 70s and 80s look better than today??? Flat stomachs, tiny waists, live a long time...
No.
See my above post
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2-3 weeks before show time Dennis James looks like Mr. Olympia far more impressive then Richards, but bodybuilding is not about proportions alone, It has a lot of angles to it and Richards is incomplete in the eyes of the judges, his muscle look inflated almost like the way esiclene makes it look, in todays arena he wouldn't even quilify for the olympia, absolutely no striations in his whole entire life.
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I've never seen any footage from the show he won to turn pro, the 1992 Nigerian National championship.
From what I've read, Richards beat a bunch of scabs. To me, he's afraid that he'll get beat by smaller, better-conditioned bodybuilders, which would bruise his ego.
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I would hardly call this guy fat. So he didn't feel the need to have the approval of 7 guys sitting at a table, (most of which who do not lift) tell him that he is a great bodybuilder. Good for him.
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I would hardly call this guy fat. So he didn't feel the need to have the approval of 7 guys sitting at a table, (most of which who do not lift) tell him that he is a great bodybuilder. Good for him.
If that were the case, he wouldn't have competed at all. Instead, he picked contests, where the opponents were so pitiful, the 7 guys in front of him would have to pick him as the winner.
He ran his mouth about other IFBB pros, but he didn't walk the walk and face them onstage. His size alone wouldn't have been enough to win. And, we already known what happens when Richards gets beat by a smaller guy.
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If that were the case, he wouldn't have competed at all. Instead, he picked contests, where the opponents were so pitiful, the 7 guys in front of him would have to pick him as the winner.
He ran his mouth about other IFBB pros, but he didn't walk the walk and face them onstage. His size alone wouldn't have been enough to win. And, we already known what happens when Richards gets beat by a smaller guy.
STFU asshole. You have no clue. Vic was black balled from guest posing at shows because he was not a pro therefore unable to make a living. That is the only reason he wanted to turn pro.
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Anyone who doesn't give Vic his props as a bodybuilder is a FUCKING BLIND IDIOT. The guy was incredibly huge AND had nice overall shape.
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I've never seen any footage from the show he won to turn pro, the 1992 Nigerian National championship.
From what I've read, Richards beat a bunch of scabs. To me, he's afraid that he'll get beat by smaller, better-conditioned bodybuilders, which would bruise his ego.
Vic would have been beaten at the Pro level, no matter how much more muscle he had over everyone else (and he dwarfed everyone else) because he could not become shredded wheat-and that is madatory at the Pro level.
And if Vic were beaten by smaller guys (which would cover everyone-no on had his size) he would have an ego meltdown-ergo no competing in the pro's.
I would hardly call this guy fat. So he didn't feel the need to have the approval of 7 guys sitting at a table, (most of which who do not lift) tell him that he is a great bodybuilder. Good for him.
And like his old workout partners the Barbarian Brothers, Vic is more well known for NOT competing.
Anyone who doesn't give Vic his props as a bodybuilder is a FUCKING BLIND IDIOT. The guy was incredibly huge AND had nice overall shape.
They give him credit, just not Mr O credit. Not many guys had 33, 34 inch legs in the 80's and 90's, not even Platz or Demayo.
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STFU asshole. You have no clue. Vic was black balled from guest posing at shows because he was not a pro therefore unable to make a living. That is the only reason he wanted to turn pro.
Unable to make a living? Excuse me, but wasn't Victor Richards plastered on ads for Weider supplements BEFORE he turned pro?
He won that joke of a pro qualifier and STILL had a Weider contract in hand. And, he got as much as (if not more publicity than) guy who won legitimate national-level championship.
The simple fact is that, eventually, he would be asked to back up that advanced hype (and salary) ONSTAGE. And, he was afraid to do it, especially if it meant being beaten by guys like Lee Labrada, Shawn Ray, and (the man that beat him once before) Rich Gaspari.
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Anyone who doesn't give Vic his props as a bodybuilder is a FUCKING BLIND IDIOT. The guy was incredibly huge AND had nice overall shape.
As a bodybuilder, in and of himself, he's awesome. As a COMPETITIVE bodybuilder, he is not. Again, He didn't even go head up with the best at the NPC Nationals-level. He ran to NIGERIA to win its pitiful championship. Of course, he'll swear up and down that the
"powers-that-be" were trying to hold him back (which would have been his excuse, for every time he didn't place first).
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Yeah, the fucking race card-weak ass excuse.
Just runs parallel with the fact the Richards was a lazy shit, plain and simple. Would have never beaten top guys or many second-tier pros...which is why he always avoided comp and made excuses...just to maintain his pathetic 'mystique'
By the way, he is 44
No, he liked to train. At 17 was bigger than you ever were, and he liked training, but hated dieting...He was very disciplined when it came to training, that is why is still big as house now
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http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/forums/attachments/bodybuilding-general-chat/6020d1176772529-who-heaviest-bb-ever-victorrichards2.jpg
Check out the waist to thigh development.
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If that were the case, he wouldn't have competed at all. Instead, he picked contests, where the opponents were so pitiful, the 7 guys in front of him would have to pick him as the winner.
He ran his mouth about other IFBB pros, but he didn't walk the walk and face them onstage. His size alone wouldn't have been enough to win. And, we already known what happens when Richards gets beat by a smaller guy.
Neither Vic nor Muscle Memory mentions the mythical IFBB Pro card...
Not sure of the pro card thing don't you have to petition the IFBB for one?? and not EVERY winner of their countries bb championship gets one...Most have to "clean out" and go to the Universe or World Games....Dennis Wolf won the german nationals and stii had to go to to the IFBB Amatuer Universe in 2005 http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=World+Amateur+Championships+-+IFBB&y=2005
Bob always said Vic Richards never was an IFBB Pro or had a IFBB Pro Card and he should know
and Vic doesn't even mention it on his website at all- Vic was born 9 of 10 children of a cardiologist father and midwifery mother. Vic started weight training at age fifteen weighing 210 pounds while playing football, wrestling and running track. Vic stands 5'10" at 370 pounds of solid muscle.
" Unlike most bodybuilders, Vic did not start weight training in order to become a competitive bodybuilder, training was something that came naturally to him.
After eight months of training at a bodyweight of 225 pounds, Vic entered his first bodybuilding contest, & won the teenage heavyweight class and came in second overall to a nineteen year old veteran teen named Rich Gaspari. At eighteen years of age and weighing 240 pounds Vic competed in teenage Los Angeles winning both the heavyweight and the overall. Then, two weeks later, Vic entered a lesser contest named "The Orange County Muscle Classic".
Vic came second to a local teenage contestant who had placed fourth to him two weeks earlier at the Los Angeles Championship.
7nbsp; At age nineteen and beefed up to 245 pounds, Vic unexpectedly showed up at the "California Gold Cup" & walked away crowned as the California Gold Cup Champion. Upon his arrival to the parking lot his trophy fell apart! Vic was understandably disappointed and from there on he decided that competition should come from within and not from outward displays of hype.
This unorthodox philosophy (in a sport where athletes are supposed to be physical and not philosophical) has gained Vic Richards lots of fame, infamy, and popularity around the world among bodybuilders and fitness buffs. Despite Vic Richards' mythical physical extremes, he is not stereotypical of bodybuilders. Vic Richards attained a Bachelor degree in Psychology and Human Behavioral Science at University of Southern California. Vic is one CEO that will not hide behind his label."
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No, he liked to train. At 17 was bigger than you ever were, and he liked training, but hated dieting...He was very disciplined when it came to training, that is why is still big as house now
"Bigger tha I ever was"
So what?
He is a social misanthrope...I met him and he wouldn't even talk to anyone
Who cares how big he is now?
What the fuck does that get him?
Time on the chain gang?
Get with it, fan-boy.
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No, he liked to train. At 17 was bigger than you ever were, and he liked training, but hated dieting...He was very disciplined when it came to training, that is why is still big as house now
No, hes still big because of his genetics and probably huge appetite for eating
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"Bigger tha I ever was"
So what?
He is a social misanthrope...I met him and he wouldn't even talk to anyone
Who cares how big he is now?
What the fuck does that get him?
Time on the chain gang?
Get with it, fan-boy.
I never was a fan of his, but I respected what he accomplished under the guidance of the Barbarian bros. He liked to train, and they brought that out of them. He's now some Mormon last time I heard about him, which, can tell you about his mental state.
No, hes still big because of his genetics and probably huge appetite for eating
That too, but he seems to have that "thick skinned" look. Last pics i saw the mofo was huge.
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(This is Mike)
I was lucky enough to spend sum time with Victor in the early 1990's (my friend Freddy owned a gym in Lynn Mass and was friends with Victor/who used to stay at Freddies house,freddy had Victor give seminars at his gym and we would take Victor out to clubs beach etc)
Victor was THE most impressive bodybuilder i have ever seen in person!(claimed a bodyweight in excess of 300 lbs when noone else was even close to 300)
Victor ate every 2 hours (same thing chicken and white rice/take out )
Victor was always spouting off about racism/religion and actually drove people out of his seminars (after they would get up and leave he would say "good i don't want people like them here anyways")
u went to a BB seminar and vic would talk about "breaking the shackles of oppression".....pretty far out stuff
Vic would draw a crowd wherever we would take him! (beach/club etc he was that BIG!)
VERY IMPRESSIVE in person!
ahead of his time size wise (now bodybuilders have "caught up to him")
called himself "The Uncrowned Mr Olympia"
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I never was a fan of his, but I respected what he accomplished under the guidance of the Barbarian bros. He liked to train, and they brought that out of them. He's now some Mormon last time I heard about him, which, can tell you about his mental state.
That too, but he seems to have that "thick skinned" look. Last pics i saw the mofo was huge.
Fair enough
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vic richards as good as he was couldnt have beat dorain in any stage of his pro career, on condition alone,,
HI DORIAN....HOW DOES IT FEEL BEING ABOUT 150 POUNDS SOAKING WET????? YOU AND LEVRONE CAN SHARE CLOTHES NOW!!!! :o :o :o
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HI DORIAN....HOW DOES IT FEEL BEING ABOUT 150 POUNDS SOAKING WET????? YOU AND LEVRONE CAN SHARE CLOTHES NOW!!!! :o :o :o
How are your 'race sensitivity' classes going?
'Break those chains', Samson! ;)
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No.
See my above post
OF COURSE HE WAS MORE AWESOME THAN RONNIE...CONSIDERING VICTOR WAS A 300 POUND MONSTER IN A TIME (EARLY 90S) WHEN THERE WEREN'T ANY...HE SET THE PRECEDENT THAT RONNIE, NASSER, RUHL, ETC FOLLOWED. UP UNTIL THEN IT WAS DEEMED IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THAT BIG.
SO FAR AS HIM COMPETING...I HAVE A VIDEO I FOUND ONLINE WHERE HE IS DISCUSSING WITH AN INTERVIEWER THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO COMPETE...HE JUST LIKES WORKING OUT. THIS WAS AT A TIME WHEN VIC WAS BIG, BUT HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN A WEIDER CONTRACT/PRO CARD TO COMPETE. HE WAS JUST A GYM RAT. SO HE HAS REMAINED FIRM FROM THE BEGINNING THAT HE HAD NO DESIRE TO GO ON STAGE.
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Anybody that thinks we are blind by saying he would not win a bodybuilding show are blind themselves and don't know anything about being bodybuilding ripped, I bet you guys have never seen a six pack. Its the ones that can't get shredded will say Victor is the uncrowned Mr. O
The ones that have truly suffered and have had death whisppering at their ear because they are unimaginably depleted and have made the ultimate sacrafices to get those last set of striations in the sweep, christmas tree, and striated glute are the ones that should be rewarded and they will laugh at a clown like Vic who's muscle look like breast implants, Can you guys not see, for crying out loud his face looks fat, c'mon.
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Yeah, the fucking race card-weak ass excuse.
Just runs parallel with the fact the Richards was a lazy shit, plain and simple. Would have never beaten top guys or many second-tier pros...which is why he always avoided comp and made excuses...just to maintain his pathetic 'mystique'
By the way, he is 44
WHAT RACE CARD ARE YOU TAKING ABOUT????
GET OFF YOUR PISS POT PODIUM AND SHUT UP...
YOU'RE JEALOUS OF VIC ...CASE CLOSED.
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As a bodybuilder, in and of himself, he's awesome. As a COMPETITIVE bodybuilder, he is not. Again, He didn't even go head up with the best at the NPC Nationals-level. He ran to NIGERIA to win its pitiful championship. Of course, he'll swear up and down that the
"powers-that-be" were trying to hold him back (which would have been his excuse, for every time he didn't place first).
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LEE PRIEST!!!!
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Yeah, the fucking race card-weak ass excuse.
Just runs parallel with the fact the Richards was a lazy shit, plain and simple. Would have never beaten top guys or many second-tier pros...which is why he always avoided comp and made excuses...just to maintain his pathetic 'mystique'
By the way, he is 44
Do you like or support anyone who is NOT American?
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2-3 weeks before show time Dennis James looks like Mr. Olympia far more impressive then Richards, but bodybuilding is not about proportions alone, It has a lot of angles to it and Richards is incomplete in the eyes of the judges, his muscle look inflated almost like the way esiclene makes it look, in todays arena he wouldn't even quilify for the olympia, absolutely no striations in his whole entire life.
And Jay has striations?? ::)
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I would hardly call this guy fat. So he didn't feel the need to have the approval of 7 guys sitting at a table, (most of which who do not lift) tell him that he is a great bodybuilder. Good for him.
Never understood people calling this guy fat..... Clearly he is pretty ripped in that shot, and he didn't have the giant gh gut to go along with it. There is a recent picture of vic floating around, and he is HUGE.
This is 15 - 20 percent bf? Everyone has a right to their opinion, but saying the guy was 20 percent bf is lies. Never seen anyone with shredded abs at 20 percent.
(http://www.vicrichards.com/images/vrfront2.png)
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vic didnt want to compete, but wanted to go around for guest posings.
he wanted the easy part, but not have to back it up onstage, bc he knew that he was a loser on stage - especially after his "uncrowned" claim, no one would really pay for his guest posings.
the guys ego was such that he wouldnt' even risk competing an an NPC show - he got his pro card at the nigerian championships.
he wanted everything as a pro - publicity in the mags, guest posings, hanging at contests with pros, but yet didnt want to compete for a fear of loosing.
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Never understood people calling this guy fat..... Clearly he is pretty ripped in that shot, and he didn't have the giant gh gut to go along with it. There is a recent picture of vic floating around, and he is HUGE.
This is 15 - 20 percent bf? Everyone has a right to their opinion, but saying the guy was 20 percent bf is lies. Never seen anyone with shredded abs at 20 percent.
(http://www.vicrichards.com/images/vrfront2.png)
You dont have a 6 pack at 15% BF, or even 10% BF, he is most likely arounf 7, 8% BF in this pic....
He was an awesome BBer- but he would not have been winning shows without granite hardness condition-which he never had.
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Still pretty large.
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Still pretty large the biggest MFer on the planet.
Fixed (he is a monster!).
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Fixed (he is a monster!).
You know, you really get an idea of how freaky he is by him standing next to Don. I have stood right next to Don and he is not small by any means, but in that pic Vic dwarfs him.
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I think with a few more weeks of dieting Vic could have had the kind of definition that you see here that Jay had for last years Olympia. We can only imagine.
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I think with a few more weeks of dieting Vic could have had the kind of definition that you see here that Jay had for last years Olympia. We can only imagine.
I (personally or as we all know by internet) know plenty of off season bodybuilders weighing in the 300+ and they either never compete or look like shit when they compete. Dennis James is the perfect example and many more like it.
Vic is a huge hype machine and I was expecting to know better from someone like you, you don't win contests by sending off season pics to the judge.
Also , 03 Ronnie was heavier, larger and leaner than Vic ever was :D
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I (personally or as we all know by internet) know plenty of off season bodybuilders weighing in the 300+ and they either never compete or look like shit when they compete. Dennis James is the perfect example and many more like it.
Vic is a huge hype machine and I was expecting to know better from someone like you, you don't win contests by sending off season pics to the judge.
Also , 03 Ronnie was heavier, larger and leaner than Vic ever was :D
You get my vote for the dumbest post of the year, except for the last part about Ronnie. The rest I have know clue what your point was. :P
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You get my vote for the dumbest post of the year, except for the last part about Ronnie. The rest I have know clue what your point was. :P
no candizzle has made alot dumber post than that.
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I think with a few more weeks of dieting Vic could have had the kind of definition that you see here that Jay had for last years Olympia. We can only imagine.
damn, Jay sucks! >:(
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I guess since Vic never competed it really isn't fair to compare him to any of todays top guys. For example, here is a pic of Jay at his best on the Olympia stage. He is at his peak as far as contest shape. Here is a pic of Vic without contest dieting and none of the other preparatory details one would go thru for a show. Not a fair comparison, but I think that Vic looks pretty good, but certainly nothing compared to Jay.
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I (personally or as we all know by internet) know plenty of off season bodybuilders weighing in the 300+ and they either never compete or look like shit when they compete. Dennis James is the perfect example and many more like it.
Vic is a huge hype machine and I was expecting to know better from someone like you, you don't win contests by sending off season pics to the judge.
Also , 03 Ronnie was heavier, larger and leaner than Vic ever was :D
LIAR LIAR...
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I think with a few more weeks of dieting Vic could have had the kind of definition that you see here that Jay had for last years Olympia. We can only imagine.
UM...VIC LOOKS BETTER THAN JAY...THE ONLY WAY VIC COULD LOOK LIKE JAY FROM THE PICS YOU POSTED WOULD BE IF VIC GAINED ABOUT TWENTY OR SO MORE POUNDS OF FAT...
JAY IS A LOSER.
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UM...VIC LOOKS BETTER THAN JAY...THE ONLY WAY VIC COULD LOOK LIKE JAY FROM THE PICS YOU POSTED WOULD BE IF VIC GAINED ABOUT TWENTY OR SO MORE POUNDS OF FAT...
JAY IS A LOSER.
Nonsense! Jay Cutler is THE best bodybuilder on the planet and Vic hasn't even competed in a local NPC show. The fact is, there is no comparison between Jay Cutler and Vic Richards.
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Vic has/had big joints & thick skin
When he started dieting down....the fullness started to disappear.
He hated the ritual of dieting & never liked how he looked as he started to lean out.
I personally think he would have at best made a top 5 spot at the Olympia.
His pro card was that of like Milos....it was pretty much fabricated.
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Vic has/had big joints & thick skin
When he started dieting down....the fullness started to disappear.
He hated the ritual of dieting & never liked how he looked as he started to lean out.
I personally think he would have at best made a top 5 spot at the Olympia.
His pro card was that of like Milos....it was pretty much fabricated.
Yes you are correct, he has very think skin and this pic is proof of that. Of course we need to keep in mind that this is just an everyday gym shot. With 20 weeks of dieting can you imagine how ripped he would heve been?
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Nonsense! Jay Cutler is THE best bodybuilder on the planet and Vic hasn't even competed in a local NPC show. The fact is, there is no comparison between Jay Cutler and Vic Richards.
YOUA RE RIGHT...THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN VIC AND JAY...JAY LOOKS LIKE SHIT IN THE PHOTO YOU POSTED COMPARED TO VIC. LOOK AT THE SWEEP ON VICS LEGS :o, LOOK AT VICS WAIST LINE (DAMN IT'S TINY :o), LOOK AT THE WAIST TO SHOULDER DIFFERENTIAL IN VIC :o, LOOK AT THE MUSCLE BELLIES IN VIC :o....THEN LOOK AT THE PATHETIC WASTE THAT IS JAY :'(....HAHAHAHAH...YOU ARE RIGHT DISGUSTED AND I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLE HEARTEDLY...THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN VIC AND JAY.
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YOUA RE RIGHT...THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN VIC AND JAY...JAY LOOKS LIKE SHIT IN THE PHOTO YOU POSTED COMPARED TO VIC. LOOK AT THE SWEEP ON VICS LEGS :o, LOOK AT VICS WAIST LINE (DAMN IT'S TINY :o), LOOK AT THE WAIST TO SHOULDER DIFFERENTIAL IN VIC :o, LOOK AT THE MUSCLE BELLIES IN VIC :o....THEN LOOK AT THE PATHETIC WASTE THAT IS JAY :'(....HAHAHAHAH...YOU ARE RIGHT DISGUSTED AND I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLE HEARTEDLY...THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN VIC AND JAY.
;D On another note, I have already bought my ticket for the Olympia this year. I think that Dexter has a very good chance of dethroning jay. I also thought that Wolf could too, but too many guys "in the know" don't seem to agree. Actually at this point I'm not so sure bout Dexter winning. From the sounds of it Jay most likey will threepeat his win this coming Oct. Anyone wanna buy a ticket to the Olympia cheap ???
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Vic has/had big joints & thick skin
When he started dieting down....the fullness started to disappear.
He hated the ritual of dieting & never liked how he looked as he started to lean out.
I personally think he would have at best made a top 5 spot at the Olympia.
His pro card was that of like Milos....it was pretty much fabricated.
LIAR LIAR KENNY
VIC NEVER DIETED AND DIDN'T COMPETE SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO GO TO THE EXTREMSE OF BB TO GET SUPER RIPPED SINCE HE WAS NOT COMPETING. HE DOES NOT HAVE BIG JOINTS AND NEITHER DOES HE HAVE THICK SKIN (WHAT THE FUCK IS HE A RHINO OR SOMETHING?) THE TRUTH IS WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT HIS POTENTIAL COULD HAVE BEEN SINCE HE IS OUT OF THE BB CIRCLE FOR GOOD REASONS, BUT HE HAS LEFT A LEGACY AND SET A PRECEDENT WHICH FEW IF ANY WILL EVER LIVE UP TO LET ALONE SURPASS.
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He would have been left for dead in the pro ranks !
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LIAR LIAR KENNY
VIC NEVER DIETED AND DIDN'T COMPETE SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO GO TO THE EXTREMSE OF BB TO GET SUPER RIPPED SINCE HE WAS NOT COMPETING. HE DOES NOT HAVE BIG JOINTS AND NEITHER DOES HE HAVE THICK SKIN (WHAT THE FUCK IS HE A RHINO OR SOMETHING?) THE TRUTH IS WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT HIS POTENTIAL COULD HAVE BEEN SINCE HE IS OUT OF THE BB CIRCLE FOR GOOD REASONS, BUT HE HAS LEFT A LEGACY AND SET A PRECEDENT WHICH FEW IF ANY WILL EVER LIVE UP TO LET ALONE SURPASS.
pretty easy to type everything oposite with what I said with no claim
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I hear that vic richards is living in oregon now and banging buff goddess.
Any truth to that vic???
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I had Victor Richards here in about 95. He was a strong as hell and I have never seen anyone eat so much, I was living with Sonny and the Samoans at the time and even they were lifted. Chicken and rice about 8 times a day, 2 chicken breasts and 2-4 cups of rice every time. He told me in a seminar that his favorite pig out food, diet food and Sunday food was all chicken and rice. After eating with him for a few days, I have no doubt that is all he ate.
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PIP Sonny Schmidt
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c397/vito907/SonnySchmidt.jpg)
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I had Victor Richards here in about 95. He was a strong as hell and I have never seen anyone eat so much, I was living with Sonny and the Samoans at the time and even they were lifted. Chicken and rice about 8 times a day, 2 chicken breasts and 2-4 cups of rice every time. He told me in a seminar that his favorite pig out food, diet food and Sunday food was all chicken and rice. After eating with him for a few days, I have no doubt that is all he ate.
If my calculations are correct (and I wouldn't bet on it ;D) that's between 4640 and 7360 cals per day. Damn that's a lotta rice.
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messiah
u met Nasser when he came to australia
who was bigger, VIc or Nasser??
pls post more pics of U and Vic and sonny!
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messiah
u met Nasser when he came to australia
who was bigger, VIc or Nasser??
pls post more pics of U and Vic and sonny!
I brought Nasser out here a few times. He was probably bigger overall, in 97 he was the best in the world. Nasser was amazing to interview and easy to work with. In his off season he could really eat as well. However Nasser was not limited to chicken and rice, we used to eat from the local bakery in the day time and have some local beers at night. He was an amazing guy to talk to and he can really talk. 7 languages and very intelligent. He was very kind to the fans and always cracking us up with his observations. I am not sure if I have more shots of Victor. I will look. In the mean time here is a photo of an interview with Nasser.
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messiah
what did Nasser weight when u brought him to Oz in 1997?
ive always been a fan of Nasser- i enjoyed his dvd's- he has a very dry , subtle sense of humor as uve confirmed
Nasser cops alot of flak on these boards but he was one of the greats.
any more Nasser pics of his tour of Oz??
are these available on your website?
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I brought Nasser out here a few times. He was probably bigger overall, in 97 he was the best in the world. Nasser was amazing to interview and easy to work with. In his off season he could really eat as well. However Nasser was not limited to chicken and rice, we used to eat from the local bakery in the day time and have some local beers at night. He was an amazing guy to talk to and he can really talk. 7 languages and very intelligent. He was very kind to the fans and always cracking us up with his observations. I am not sure if I have more shots of Victor. I will look. In the mean time here is a photo of an interview with Nasser.
does he like sushi buffets and jamaican food? can you verify that ?
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messiah
what did Nasser weight when u brought him to Oz in 1997?
weigh
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I brought Nasser out here a few times. He was probably bigger overall, in 97 he was the best in the world. Nasser was amazing to interview and easy to work with. In his off season he could really eat as well. However Nasser was not limited to chicken and rice, we used to eat from the local bakery in the day time and have some local beers at night. He was an amazing guy to talk to and he can really talk. 7 languages and very intelligent. He was very kind to the fans and always cracking us up with his observations. I am not sure if I have more shots of Victor. I will look. In the mean time here is a photo of an interview with Nasser.
Nasser does not speak 7 languages, and graduating from college, on it's own, does not make you intelligent.
Nasser had no social intelligence at all, and that becomes more and more clear as he fades from being relevant in BBing to- only coming out to attack people.
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Nasser likes sushi buffets
he is seen @ many during his DVD' series
he also likes Mexican food
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Nasser does not speak 7 languages, and graduating from college, on it's own, does not make you intelligent.
Nasser had no social intelligence at all, and that becomes more and more clear as he fades from being relevant in BBing to- only coming out to attack people.
As you seem to know him well then how many languages does he speak? I do not think college is a sign of intelligence, particularly social intelligence. I had based my assumption on spending time with him, what are you basing your comments on Johnny?
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As you seem to know him well then how many languages does he speak? I do not think college is a sign of intelligence, particularly social intelligence. I had based my assumption on spending time with him, what are you basing your comments on Johnny?
I worked out in the same gym as Nasser-he was not well liked-at all.
It was his ego-he thought he was the shit-and he wasn't. In the off season he was a big blob at 290-300#, while Jim Quinn walked around the same gym at 290# in contest shape (year round).
You try to talk to Nasser and he would have an attitutde. Try to ask about some of the other pro's that trained at another gym he was at (Gold's OPB) and he would start bad mouthing them.
He was not a fun guy to be around, got to the point I would not even talk to him-not worth the brain damage.
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I worked out in the same gym as Nasser-he was not well liked-at all.
It was his ego-he thought he was the shit-and he wasn't. In the off season he was a big blob at 290-300#, while Jim Quinn walked around the same gym at 290# in contest shape (year round).
You try to talk to Nasser and he would have an attitutde. Try to ask about some of the other pro's that trained at another gym he was at (Gold's OPB) and he would start bad mouthing them.
He was not a fun guy to be around, got to the point I would not even talk to him-not worth the brain damage.
Good answer Johnny. I know that Nasser did not like many of the other pros and they did not like him. He was always bad mouthing the other pros and in small doses it could be very funny. In large doses it could indeed be brain damaging.
You are also right about Jim Quinn, he was a freaky fuck every time I saw him. I remember seeing him in NYC at a gym opening with Sonny. He was deadlifting 7 plates off season in a tank top around '91. Just incredible.
Intelligence and personality can be worlds apart.
TD
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Nasser on his dvds offseason is not a big blob
he is 300 plus pounds, with veins and visible ab's
holding some water yes but vascular and 300 pounds with visible abs
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I worked out in the same gym as Nasser-he was not well liked-at all.
It was his ego-he thought he was the shit-and he wasn't. In the off season he was a big blob at 290-300#, while Jim Quinn walked around the same gym at 290# in contest shape (year round).
You try to talk to Nasser and he would have an attitutde. Try to ask about some of the other pro's that trained at another gym he was at (Gold's OPB) and he would start bad mouthing them.
He was not a fun guy to be around, got to the point I would not even talk to him-not worth the brain damage.
you make me laugh vegas..you act like he wanted to talk to you so you say, "got to the point I would not even talk to him-not worth the brain damage"...its like me saying I dont post pics because im a top ten Mr. O in the early 90s. you think ronnie has social skills? No he does not he talks like any ignorant off the street black guy does seen it many times from a guy like ronnie. Only arnold was the most intelligent person politically back in the day and now and he was street smart talking also and I bet you probably say, "I dont talk to arnold anymore because he is an idiot" lol.....
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If i was on Nassers dose of test weekly i probably wouldnt want to be to social either just want to eat fuck and train, which is basically what he did back in the day, not a bad guy, just doesnt suffer fools, have to admit some of the shit hes said the last 12 months has been a bit uncalled for, but the guy was a lot smarter than a lot of other pro bodybuilders ive met over the years, at least he had some other interests in life other than just how he looked which is what most are limited to.
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You get my vote for the dumbest post of the year, except for the last part about Ronnie. The rest I have know clue what your point was. :P
Enjoy your mancrush, fact is Vic even in his off season studio pics doesn't look as big or ripped as most top pros.
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you make me laugh vegas..you act like he wanted to talk to you so you say, "got to the point I would not even talk to him-not worth the brain damage"...its like me saying I dont post pics because im a top ten Mr. O in the early 90s. you think ronnie has social skills? No he does not he talks like any ignorant off the street black guy does seen it many times from a guy like ronnie. Only arnold was the most intelligent person politically back in the day and now and he was street smart talking also and I bet you probably say, "I dont talk to arnold anymore because he is an idiot" lol.....
guy FOR SURE....
STOP HATING ON RONNIE...JEALOUSY CAUSES YOUR MOUTH TO SAY STUPID THINGS
ARNOLD HAS BEEN IN AMERICA FOR THIRTY OR FORTY SOMETHING YEARS AND STILL SOUNDS LIKE A FOUR STAR NAZI WHO JUST GOT OFF THE BOAT. INTELLIGENT??? YEAH IF YOU CONCLUDE THAT A 59 IQ IS INTELLIGENT THEN HE HAS LOADS OF BRAINS
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Still pretty large.
Man! If that is a recent pic, he is still insanely huge. If he making Don Long look small, he must just dwarf 'normal' people. :o
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Enjoy your mancrush, fact is Vic even in his off season studio pics doesn't look as big or ripped as most top pros.
You cannot be serious. Vic, with his thick skin and all, is bigger than any pro today I think. Not rock hard or seperated, but he is bigger or just as big than any pro. RC in his prime may have had better shape-but not bigger (well his back is bigger but nothing else).
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I worked out in the same gym as Nasser-he was not well liked-at all.
It was his ego-he thought he was the shit-and he wasn't. In the off season he was a big blob at 290-300#, while Jim Quinn walked around the same gym at 290# in contest shape (year round).
You try to talk to Nasser and he would have an attitutde. Try to ask about some of the other pro's that trained at another gym he was at (Gold's OPB) and he would start bad mouthing them.
He was not a fun guy to be around, got to the point I would not even talk to him-not worth the brain damage.
this is a pretty accurate account of the scene back in the day
Alot of people wanted to be friendly with Nass, but he always felt everyone wanted something. He's a big guy on the outside, but afraid of everyone around him. It's one of the reason why he talks alot of shit about others.
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Nasser on his dvds offseason is not a big blob
he is 300 plus pounds, with veins and visible ab's
holding some water yes but vascular and 300 pounds with visible abs
Sure he is- here's a pic of nasser from his DVD
(http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/5/26/dalkiel/f_vlcsnap8402m_714f87e.png)
As for his education- Nasser did subjects like sociology and pol science. Subjects like that are similar to getting a MA in Eng Lit. It doesn't take a lot of effort and has no practical value outside a university. As long as you can read and can construct a decent paper its a piece of cake. There are millions of people who have MA in those subjects that are waiting tables everywhere hoping for their big break.
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Sure he is- here's a pic of nasser from his DVD
(http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/5/26/dalkiel/f_vlcsnap8402m_714f87e.png)
As for his education- Nasser did subjects like sociology and pol science. Subjects like that are similar to getting a MA in Eng Lit. It doesn't take a lot of effort and has no practical value outside a university. As long as you can read and can construct a decent paper its a piece of cake. There are millions of people who have MA in those subjects that are waiting tables everywhere hoping for their big break.
Yes...try the sciences in college if you really want to be challenged
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Gregg Valentino wrot a good story about hm in his MD Column
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You cannot be serious. Vic, with his thick skin and all, is bigger than any pro today I think. Not rock hard or seperated, but he is bigger or just as big than any pro. RC in his prime may have had better shape-but not bigger (well his back is bigger but nothing else).
Seen 'em both up close. You speak the truth.
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You cannot be serious. Vic, with his thick skin and all, is bigger than any pro today I think. Not rock hard or seperated, but he is bigger or just as big than any pro. RC in his prime may have had better shape-but not bigger (well his back is bigger but nothing else).
LOL thick skin ::)
Ronnie COMPETED at ~300lbs and have off season shots with abs at 320 since 98, Vic lies about being 360 and was probably pushing the 280s at his most bloated condition HUGE HUGGGGGE difference.
Just look at Dennis James, even 2 weeks out he is still gigantic and ripped but comes in flat as a pancake, thats what makes the difference, being a hobby bodybuilder or a professional.
Don't get me wrong, there is NO DENYING that Vic was and still is HUGE, but he is still mostly hype, especially considering his back SUCKS and thats probably one of the reasons he never really wanted to compete because he knew he would get slaughtered when he turns around.
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Vic had high lats....never would have won a major show. Great bodybuilder just not a top 5 Olympia class bodybuilder.
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Vic had high lats....never would have won a major show. Great bodybuilder just not a top 5 Olympia class bodybuilder.
His only weak point was his back-that's it, dont tell me he could have never won a pro show when guys like Milos have won one with 17.5 inch arms.....and JOJ has done well with 14 inch calves.
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you make me laugh vegas..you act like he wanted to talk to you so you say, "got to the point I would not even talk to him-not worth the brain damage"...its like me saying I dont post pics because im a top ten Mr. O in the early 90s. you think ronnie has social skills? No he does not he talks like any ignorant off the street black guy does seen it many times from a guy like ronnie. Only arnold was the most intelligent person politically back in the day and now and he was street smart talking also and I bet you probably say, "I dont talk to arnold anymore because he is an idiot" lol.....
I have worked out with tons of pros and top amatuers-and we are basically all doing the same thing, something that we like-working out.
Nasser did not want to be a part of that social club. I worked out with BBer,'s partied with them, called them my friends-sort of like on here.
So take it how ever you want to-but when youre a part of this life style, training hardcore 6 days a week you tend to hang out and associate with these same people.
Remember, Nasser never won the O- the fact is in a 16 year pro career Nasser only won 6 shows-I could care less about the guy. Most people in my gym felt the same way.
Stop being a jock sniffer JOCKTHEGLIDE, and grow a pair of balls and stop the muscle worshipping.
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He never would have won the Arnold or the O...read my post...I said Major contests..hell you could win the Houston.
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He never would have won the Arnold or the O...read my post...I said Major contests..hell you could win the Houston.
In my book any Pro show is a major show.
The O is the best, followed closely by the Arnold Classic-I agree there is no way Vic could win either of those two-but how many guys have??? 15-20 total during the last 30 years???
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You dont have a 6 pack at 15% BF, or even 10% BF, he is most likely arounf 7, 8% BF in this pic....
He was an awesome BBer- but he would not have been winning shows without granite hardness condition-which he never had.
7 to 8% you know nothing jeeeez where do you fucking idiots come from?
he is at most 4.5-5% in that pic at fucking mostttttt probably less
you people like to talk on here , but you really show how little you know once the mouth opens!!!
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Vic had high lats....never would have won a major show. Great bodybuilder just not a top 5 Olympia class bodybuilder.
YET Paul Dillett was? Your argument fails.
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JohnnyVegas - just wondering, how do you think Vic would have looked on the regime of today's pros? Back in his time, it must have been a lot more simple - lots of dbol and test, big meals and training hard. If he could have access to the same things Ronnie has, he would surely be amazing with his genetics. Also, how strong was Vic, can you recall?
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7 to 8% you know nothing jeeeez where do you fucking idiots come from?
he is at most 4.5-5% in that pic at fucking mostttttt probably less
you people like to talk on here , but you really show how little you know once the mouth opens!!!
Actually you do not know what you are taliking about, he is lean yes, 7 % is lean, but bodybuilders today are striated everywhere and this comes out at 3-5 % and striated glutes come out at 2. No need for name calling I have nothing against you but if you think he is under 5 its probably because you've never been shredded before, understandable.
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LOL thick skin ::)
Ronnie COMPETED at ~300lbs and have off season shots with abs at 320 since 98, Vic lies about being 360 and was probably pushing the 280s at his most bloated condition HUGE HUGGGGGE difference.
Just look at Dennis James, even 2 weeks out he is still gigantic and ripped but comes in flat as a pancake, thats what makes the difference, being a hobby bodybuilder or a professional.
Don't get me wrong, there is NO DENYING that Vic was and still is HUGE, but he is still mostly hype, especially considering his back SUCKS and thats probably one of the reasons he never really wanted to compete because he knew he would get slaughtered when he turns around.
STOP HATIN'...VIC WAS A MONSTER AND I WOULD NOT DOUBT 300+ POUNDS IN OFF SEASON ESPECIALLY SINCE THE SIZE OF HIS LEGS WERE TREMENDOUS. HIS LEGS WERE BIGGER THAN RONNIE'S, JUST NOT AS CUT, BUT IMPRESSIVE NONE THE LESS. I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYONE IS SAYING THIS GUYS BACK IS WEAK...MUST EB MORE RETARDS HERE THAN I THOUGHT. WATCH THE VID FOR HIS BACK.
Vic had high lats....never would have won a major show. Great bodybuilder just not a top 5 Olympia class bodybuilder.
VIC DID NOT HAVE HIGH LATS....KISS OFF AND WATCH THE VID...EVEN IN THE OFF SEASON HE IS IMPRESSIVE...
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7 to 8% you know nothing jeeeez where do you fucking idiots come from?
he is at most 4.5-5% in that pic at fucking mostttttt probably less
you people like to talk on here , but you really show how little you know once the mouth opens!!!
He is not 5% BF-he is exactly where I said-about 7-8%.
Actually you do not know what you are taliking about, he is lean yes, 7 % is lean, but bodybuilders today are striated everywhere and this comes out at 3-5 % and striated glutes come out at 2. No need for name calling I have nothing against you but if you think he is under 5 its probably because you've never been shredded before, understandable.
There you go.
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Remember, Nasser never won the O- the fact is in a 16 year pro career Nasser only won 6 shows-I could care less about the guy. Most people in my gym felt the same way.
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The few contests that nasser did win - he failed to duplicate that feat the next year. He'd win one comp and drop down to 3rd place the next time he competed in the same comp.
No consistency or discipline.
Eventually he was forced to retire after placing 15th in the olympia for uh..health reasons
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Vic Richards would easily win the Olympia when ever he felt like it.
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STOP HATIN'...VIC WAS A MONSTER AND I WOULD NOT DOUBT 300+ POUNDS IN OFF SEASON ESPECIALLY SINCE THE SIZE OF HIS LEGS WERE TREMENDOUS. HIS LEGS WERE BIGGER THAN RONNIE'S, JUST NOT AS CUT, BUT IMPRESSIVE NONE THE LESS. I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYONE IS SAYING THIS GUYS BACK IS WEAK...MUST EB MORE RETARDS HERE THAN I THOUGHT. WATCH THE VID FOR HIS BACK.
VIC DID NOT HAVE HIGH LATS....KISS OFF AND WATCH THE VID...EVEN IN THE OFF SEASON HE IS IMPRESSIVE...
Go get a clue, you completely missed the point, looking good with 30lbs of water is nice but it doesn't reflect at all on how you would look in a contest, and for the record that was a SHITTY posing routine, Paul Dillet shitty routine.
You also missed the point of me saying that he is huge no doubt but living on hype rather on proof, its like showing you videos of some dude boxing in his gym and looking really fast and powerful and claim he can take out Tyson at his prime but never actually stepping in the ring....it's just retarded....fucking bench racing (if you know the term).
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Go get a clue, you completely missed the point, looking good with 30lbs of water is nice but it doesn't reflect at all on how you would look in a contest, and for the record that was a SHITTY posing routine, Paul Dillet shitty routine.
You also missed the point of me saying that he is huge no doubt but living on hype rather on proof, its like showing you videos of some dude boxing in his gym and looking really fast and powerful and claim he can take out Tyson at his prime but never actually stepping in the ring....it's just retarded....fucking bench racing (if you know the term).
30 pounds of water is approx. 4 gallons. There is no way that he is holding that amont of water under his skin. ::) not possible. Please kill yourself for being so stupid. Record it and post it on this site for all of us to see. Thank you and bye bye.
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Dorian would have dominated him
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Dorian would have dominated him
That sounds just a tad fruity to me.
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The Dennis James of the 90's :)
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The Dennis James of the 90's :)
But with legs. :)
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Vic Richards would easily win the Olympia when ever he felt like it.
If the Olympia was held in 1982 or below, yes he would win...But every Olympia from 83 onward was won from the back...And Victor would get killed from the back...
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30 pounds of water is approx. 4 gallons. There is no way that he is holding that amont of water under his skin. ::) not possible. Please kill yourself for being so stupid. Record it and post it on this site for all of us to see. Thank you and bye bye.
He's roughly 30lbs off contest weight there, deal with it.
I'm truly shocked that you of all people miss how much water he carry.
Here's a video of Ronnie from Cost Of Redemption video, weighing around 310 looking MUCH MUCH leaner than Vic and still competed at 20-30lbs lower than that.
You might heard of this guy http://www.dennis-james.com/flash/main.html , as long as you don't prove you can be a top competitor you ARE'NT.
The competition is on the stage not on some photos you took in a studio or in some claims you made in an interview.
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Biggest bb'er ever!!! Without insulin and GH!!! If he would have taken todays dosages he woulda been the 375 hard and lean he says he is on his website!!!
he would be like a cartoon character 28 inch arms 40 inch legs 75 inch chest what a monster!!!!
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you cock gobblin hata's can suck big vic's dick!!! :-*
greatest bb'er EVER!!!
looks at these pics when he was in shape!!! It doesn't matta if he was only competing against the trees in the back ground he was the greates ever....nobody EVER came close to what vic dispayed 36 inch thighs 26 inch arms! 330 lb lean bodyweight!!
1000 lb squats and hacks!!
monster fuking monster!
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And that was all before GH and insulin etc. Imagine what he could look like if he was at his peak now, with the products that are available today. I suspect he would be mind blowingly massive and cut, and right up there with Ronnie, Jay and Dennis.
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STOP HATIN'...VIC WAS A MONSTER AND I WOULD NOT DOUBT 300+ POUNDS IN OFF SEASON ESPECIALLY SINCE THE SIZE OF HIS LEGS WERE TREMENDOUS. HIS LEGS WERE BIGGER THAN RONNIE'S, JUST NOT AS CUT, BUT IMPRESSIVE NONE THE LESS. I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYONE IS SAYING THIS GUYS BACK IS WEAK...MUST EB MORE RETARDS HERE THAN I THOUGHT. WATCH THE VID FOR HIS BACK.
VIC DID NOT HAVE HIGH LATS....KISS OFF AND WATCH THE VID...EVEN IN THE OFF SEASON HE IS IMPRESSIVE...
He absolutely had high lats you can't argue to the contrary
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Biggest bb'er ever!!! Without insulin and GH!!! If he would have taken todays dosages he woulda been the 375 hard and lean he says he is on his website!!!
he would be like a cartoon character 28 inch arms 40 inch legs 75 inch chest what a monster!!!!
VIC STILL LOOKS GREAT BEING OFF SEASON AND DOING A GUESS POSE AT THE FIBO IN THIS VIDEO.... HAD HE JUICED LIKE THEY DO TODAY HE WOULD BE ALL THE MORE DEVASTATING.... I WONDER WHAT HE WAS TAKING TO ACHIEVE THIS LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT???
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Nasser does not speak 7 languages, and graduating from college, on it's own, does not make you intelligent.
I think Flex magazine said 6 not 7. English is like Nasser's 3rd language. He has messaged some getbiggers in German, he messaged El Mariachi in Bosnian, he speaks Arabic when in Egypt in one of his training videos, English (of course), speaks either French or Italian (I cant remember which one of the two now) to Ben Weider in one of this training videos. His mother was Bosnian and father Arabic, and he grew up in Germany, so he learned Arabic and Bosnian from his parents, German and English in Germany, and it seems he picked up on a few other European languages too.
Nasser is one of the few bodybuilders that can speak in-depth about topics outside of bodybuilding - whether its world politics, history, cultures, animals, etc. When we talk usually the topic of bodybuilding or other bodybuilders does not even come up.
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In terms of what he was taking, I suspect it was pretty much the standard dbol/test combo, perhaps with a few other things added like primo, deca, or Eq added from time to time. But I don't think he was taking GH. If he had taken GH in his time, he would have been mindblowing!!!
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In terms of what he was taking, I suspect it was pretty much the standard dbol/test combo, perhaps with a few other things added like primo, deca, or Eq added from time to time. But I don't think he was taking GH. If he had taken GH in his time, he would have been mindblowing!!!
Vic was NOT taking GH, no one was in the early 80's except for the very top guys because it was not syntetically produced until 1983-and then it was very small amounts because of the costs, Vic could not afford GH-basically no one could back then.
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He absolutely had high lats you can't argue to the contrary
HIGH MY ASS...STOP HATIN' AND LOOKING FOR THINGS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT. VIC WAS THE MAN....ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE PHYSIQUE. I WOULD CERTAINLY KILL FOR IT...
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He absolutely had high lats you can't argue to the contrary
Yep.
Incredible quads and waist/abs though.
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HIGH MY ASS...STOP HATIN' AND LOOKING FOR THINGS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT. VIC WAS THE MAN....ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE PHYSIQUE. I WOULD CERTAINLY KILL FOR IT...
Look I'm not stating his physique wasn't incredible ( it was ) he has high lats no escaping that
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Funny his Dad is a doctor..he was of course taking boatloads of gh. He hung around the same people I did.
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Funny his Dad is a doctor..he was of course taking boatloads of gh. He hung around the same people I did.
Noel, you dont know what you're talking about.
You better read my posts about GH in the 80's. You're full of shit if you think VR was on "boatloads of GH".
I am glad Vic hung around the same people as you-now what does that have to do with the price of eggs??
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Funny his Dad is a doctor..he was of course taking boatloads of gh. He hung around the same people I did.
I don't want to get into a pissing match with anybody here.....but having been around "Vic" a bit in the early 1990's...im inclined to agree here with Noel
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I don't want to get into a pissing match with anybody here.....but having been around "Vic" a bit in the early 1990's...im inclined to agree here with Noel
Vic was 270# in 1982, the first year I saw him, he was the biggest BBer in Venice-he was NOT on GH.
GH was basically not avalible at that time-with very limited exceptions-and if you were one of those exceptions you had a small supply that would cover 2-4 weeks/small dosages max.
NO ONE was on "boatlaods" of GH then because there simply was not boatloads of it available.
Now what went on in the 90's I dont know, but Vic was just as big in 1982 as he was in 1992.
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Vic was 270# in 1982, the first year I saw him, he was the biggest BBer in Venice-he was NOT on GH.
GH was basically not avalible at that time-with very limited exceptions-and if you were one of those exceptions you had a small supply that would cover 2-4 weeks/small dosages max.
NO ONE was on "boatlaods" of GH then because there simply was not boatloads of it available.
Now what went on in the 90's I dont know, but Vic was just as big in 1982 as he was in 1992.
Ok bro.............all i know bout Vic is from the early 1990's
Vic like i stated stayed with my buddy Freddy (Freddy payed Vic to "give seminars" and "guest pose" at his gym)
Vic would be at Freddys home for a few weeks 2 -3 times a year
all i can say is what i saw/what Freddy and Victor told me.............
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Ok bro.............all i know bout Vic is from the early 1990's
Vic like i stated stayed with my buddy Freddy (Freddy payed Vic to "give seminars" and "guest pose" at his gym)
Vic would be at Freddys home for a few weeks 2 -3 times a year
all i can say is what i saw/what Freddy and Victor told me.............
Things did change with GH in the 90's after it had be synthetically produced, so it is likely he may have used GH then, as do all the top guys today, but in the 80's - when Vic was the shit around Venice- he was like everyone else using AAS only-insulin and GH were just not used or prevelent before the 90's.
So I will concede later in his career the GH equation changed for him.
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Things did change with GH in the 90's after it had be synthetically produced, so it is likely he may have used GH then, as do all the top guys today, but in the 80's - when Vic was the shit around Venice- he was like everyone else using AAS only-insulin and GH were just not used or prevelent before the 90's.
So I will concede later in his career the GH equation changed for him.
Fair enough! (altho wasn't GH extracted from human cadavers available in the 1980's?)
i think it was rumored to cause ..........jacob's or something that drove the user insane?
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sitting at Shakes house in Seattle with Vic and Mike Quinn in 1989 listening to both of them talk about GH ..watching Vic eat more rice than I've ever seen anyone eat in one sitting...ya i don't know shit.
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I had a buddy who used to eat so much freakin rice I got sick watching him. ;D
Bout 10 years ago I used to talk to Vic a lot. I can say that he didn't like high androgen drugs and he was a big fan of high dose anabolics ie var, eq, ect. tren was the exception. Claimed he had a way of taking and combining these supps that gave he his freaky size. Never got much into that so who knows.
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Fair enough! (altho wasn't GH extracted from human cadavers available in the 1980's?)
i think it was rumored to cause ..........jacob's or something that drove the user insane?
Here you go Mike. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is a very rare and incurable degenerative neurological disorder (brain disease) that is ultimately fatal.
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Bout 10 years ago I used to talk to Vic a lot. I can say that he didn't like high androgen drugs and he was a big fan of high dose anabolics ie var, eq, ect. tren was the exception. Claimed he had a way of taking and combining these supps that gave he his freaky size. Never got much into that so who knows.
I remember having the same conversation with him, zero test and heaps of straight anabolics. You are speaking facts, disgusted.
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he loved parabolan the poor man's GH....who gives a fk if they used GH 20 iu's a week was a lot considered back then....
now every punk on the boards uses 10-20 ius a day... :-* :-X
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Vic was 270# in 1982, the first year I saw him, he was the biggest BBer in Venice-he was NOT on GH.
GH was basically not avalible at that time-with very limited exceptions-and if you were one of those exceptions you had a small supply that would cover 2-4 weeks/small dosages max.
NO ONE was on "boatlaods" of GH then because there simply was not boatloads of it available.
Now what went on in the 90's I dont know, but Vic was just as big in 1982 as he was in 1992.
That's because GH doesn't gve you the size that it is rumored too. Big waste of money.
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I remember having the same conversation with him, zero test and heaps of straight anabolics. You are speaking facts, disgusted.
Yep :) Not sure if I should post doses but it was high. PM if you like and we can compare notes. ;D
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Before synthetically produced GH became available to the masses, it needed to be FDA approved here in the states...That my friends takes many many years to happen...Well there were quite a few guinea pigs(mostly midgets) who had access to such drugs well before the FDA approved them...Along with some doctors etc...
So Victor had a doctor for a dad did he?
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And that was all before GH and insulin etc. Imagine what he could look like if he was at his peak now, with the products that are available today. I suspect he would be mind blowingly massive and cut, and right up there with Ronnie, Jay and Dennis.
Since when is Jay cut?
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In earlier years Jay has come in amazingly cut. I hope he come in shape for the 2008 one last time.