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Damn how anticlimatic, no comp for this guy. :-\ Would love to see him crush Kimbo.
(http://www.pridefighting.us/wp-content/uploads/Image/Pride-Fighting/2007/May/fedor-pride-champion.jpg)
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he would catch a murder case fighting kimbo ;D
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Damn how anticlimatic, no comp for this guy. :-\ Would love to see him crush Kimbo.
(http://www.pridefighting.us/wp-content/uploads/Image/Pride-Fighting/2007/May/fedor-pride-champion.jpg)
Why would he waste his time on Kimbo Slice?
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Why would he waste his time on Kimbo Slice?
Exactly the two don't even belong in the same sentence.
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I would enjoy watching Kimbo running from Fedor after the first few seconds
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Fedor Vs. Kimbo Slice
LOL
Kimbo Slice
Fedor
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Kimbo cant live even one second in front of Fedor.
No ground tecnic = No MMA fighter.
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there's competition but they dont put those fights together.
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there's competition but they dont put those fights together.
So true.
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I think Fedor would win, but his toughest fights IMO would be with Josh Barnett and a Prime Mark Kerr.
Who do you guys think would give Fedor the toughest fight?
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Kimbo would murder Fedor, fedor has no chance, fedor has lost before, kimbo is undefeated remember that
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Kimbo cant live even one second in front of Fedor.
No ground tecnic = No MMA fighter.
Thats why I would love to see this fight, so many internet geeks are so far up Kimbo's ass it is ridiculous.
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I think Fedor would win, but his toughest fights IMO would be with Josh Barnett and a Prime Mark Kerr.
Who do you guys think would give Fedor the toughest fight?
Josh.
And Anderson Silva after spending a few years with chad nichols
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Fedor should be allowed in the ufc :o
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Left Hook, Rear Nake Choke. Perfection. Anderson was Perfect too. He blocked and caught James MTB RHK, and countered it Perfectly with a Right Cross for the KO. The stupid Ref., though...allowed James to get hammered even more...and almost in to a Coma. That fight was OVER AT THE FIRST RIGHT CROSS. It broke James face and KHTFO. :(
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JohnnyVegas would fucking murder Fedor.
JohnnyVegas has legit 20" arms! :o
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fedor is that baddest dude on the planet...i don;t care what anybody else says
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I would have liked to have seen fedor vs igor vovchanchyn. would have been brutal.
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KIMBO SHOULD NOT EVEN BE MENTIONED IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS FEDOR.. i hope people are not serious when they mention those two togther.. kimbo has fought no one.. his last fight was against a guy who was not even ranked as a serious threat.. and kimbo was dominated on the ground.. hell, even kimbo can admit he is not in that class.. not even close..
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KIMBO is a big strong black man. what if if he punches fedor really hard?
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KIMBO is a big strong black man. what if if he punches fedor really hard?
He will lose anyway. See below as an example.
http://www.mmascraps.com/2007/08/fedor-vs-fujita-did-that-really-just.html
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I would have liked to have seen fedor vs igor vovchanchyn. would have been brutal.
agree..probably would end up by points..because they have somewhat similar styles...both in top condition would be probably the best fight ever
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The stupid Ref., though...allowed James to get hammered even more...and almost in to a Coma. That fight was OVER AT THE FIRST RIGHT CROSS. It broke James face and KHTFO. :(
Agree. The knockout punch was to the left of his face, and the cut to his right cheek after he was down. Should send the ref the cosmetic surgeon bill. Did the ref really think the guy was going to get back up? Big John would have stopped it after two punches.
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fat. no triceps. no biceps. no shoulders. no chest. no traps. no lats. no legs. what a pathetic specimen. :-X
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fat. no triceps. no biceps. no shoulders. no chest. no traps. no lats. no legs. what a pathetic specimen. :-X
Hopefully you = joking. He would kill any bodybuilder alive.
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Hopefully you = joking. He would kill any bodybuilder alive.
the only joke is that fools "physique"
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Kimbo would murder Fedor, fedor has no chance, fedor has lost before, kimbo is undefeated remember that
::) ::) ???
who did he lose to again?
The fight was stopped because of a cut dumbass
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the only joke is that fools "physique"
He'd knock the coke right out of your nostrils.
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Squadfather had issues with "tuffguy cagefighters".
Seeing SquadFather vs. Fedor would be a lovely sight ;D
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Fedor
DAMN!!! :o :o :o
I love how he doesn't even try to intimidate his opponents with the hard looks during the instructions by the ref...awesome, just awesome :o
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He'd knock the coke right out of your nostrils.
::)
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the only joke is that fools "physique"
Well, you superficial little prick ;D :-*, Fedor = 1000x the athlete any BB would ever be.
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Well, you superficial little prick ;D :-*, Fedor = 1000x the athlete any BB would ever be.
i think it would be fair to say that VINCE GOODRUM would place ahead of this schmoe in a bodybuilding contest. :-X
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i think it would be fair to say that VINCE GOODRUM would place ahead of this schmoe in a bodybuilding contest. :-X
Candy, you're not a Fedor fan? Why not?
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i think it would be fair to say that VINCE GOODRUM would place ahead of this schmoe in a bodybuilding contest. :-X
Vince Goodrum would probably place ahead of Bill Gates and Donald Trump in a bodybuilding contest as well. That does not make him a greater man, as bodybuilding is a little insignificant shit sport compared to almost everything else in life.
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Candy, you're not a Fedor fan? Why not?
in all seriousness i dont even know who he is. i just see that picture of him.
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Vince Goodrum would probably place ahead of Bill Gates and Donald Trump in a bodybuilding contest as well. That does not make him a greater man, as bodybuilding is a little insignificant shit sport compared to almost everything else in life.
Au contraire
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Au contraire
Your skills at pissing people = pretty poor SpermiCandi ;D
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the only joke is that fools "physique"
You are clueless about life in general, aren't you?
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You are clueless about life in general, aren't you?
let me guess, you think life revolves around cage fighting ? :D
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Kimbo would murder Fedor, fedor has no chance, fedor has lost before, kimbo is undefeated remember that
You're joking ............Correct?
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agree..probably would end up by points..because they have somewhat similar styles...both in top condition would be probably the best fight ever
I agree, it would be a bloodbath. both of them could take a beating and give one.
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the only joke is that fools "physique"
Yet he is in better physical condition than you and he makes money with his body. So where does that leave you.
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fat. no triceps. no biceps. no shoulders. no chest. no traps. no lats. no legs. what a pathetic specimen. :-X
Candi has spoken. :o
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fedor would be crushed on a stage by anyone in the IFBB
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fedor would be crushed on a stage by anyone in the IFBB
Fedor oiled up in a thong.....and posing with some sweet slow love song.... :-X
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Fedor oiled up in a thong.....and posing with some sweet slow love song.... :-X
he would finish dead last.
he just doesnt have what it takes to battle it out on stage with the iron warriors
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His body is just a tool - why would he care how he looks... waste of time.
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the only joke is that fools "physique"
Dizzle perpetuating the "I'm a bodybuilder, I have a one-figure IQ and I seriously believe I'm an athlete". Sure, boy! You're livin' the dream.
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Fedor and the best mode of Rickson Gracie.... Who is stronger?
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Comparing Fedor to Kimbo is like comparing a high school standout to an elite professional.
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one man
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He had a brief part in the new hulk movie and talked about controlling breathing.
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i loss in 400 fights........and he disputes that loss
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fat. no triceps. no biceps. no shoulders. no chest. no traps. no lats. no legs. what a pathetic specimen. :-X
Looked in the mirror didya.
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Brutal 15 inch arms, flabby chest and pencil neck
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So Who is stronger? The prime time Rickson vs Fedor
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So Who is stronger? The prime time Rickson vs Fedor
Fedor.
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I really don't know what to think about this picture of Fedor. :-\
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I really don't know what to think about this picture of Fedor. :-\
ahahahahahaahah
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So Who is stronger? The prime time Rickson vs Fedor
Rickson never had any quality competion in mma. His mma record is 11-0 mostly against Japanese c-level fighters.
It's a stupid question man.
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Rickson never had any quality competion in mma. His mma record is 11-0 mostly against Japanese c-level fighters.
It's a stupid question man.
Right. :-[
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Rickson never had any quality competion in mma. His mma record is 11-0 mostly against Japanese c-level fighters.
It's a stupid question man.
Could be because Rickson has been in it since before MMA was around and before Fedor was born. By the time MMA took off Rickson was too old. It's not his fault. But in his prime he would have done very well in MMA. He was strong, fast, flexible, incredible endurance, and very smart
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FEDOR IS KING.
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MMA today compared to Rickson's generation and before, is just play. A sport designed to entertain and excite. In the Vale Tude (literally: anything goes) days the ref's job was confined to just keeping the fighters from falling out of the ring and raising the hand of the winner. These were bare knuckle, head butting, no time limits fights. Helio Gracie (Rickson's father) while in his fifties fought for over three hours straight against a former student.
Real fighting isn't pretty. But it isn't meant to be.
In the first fight Rickson is fighting Zulu for the second time. He beat him 3 years earlier at 18 years old. The second clip is a typical tournament with one of the fights featuring Rorion Gracie who brought Jiu-Jitsu to the world and is primarily responsible for changing martial arts forever.
Sure they were no name and you can never be sure how things would have gone with today's fighters. Still, this was the real thing. They didn't make big bucks but just fought because they were warriors.
Rickson at 49 years old doing a cameo for the Incredible Hulk. Hasn't changed much since the days I got to roll with him in the early 1990's
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Could be because Rickson has been in it since before MMA was around and before Fedor was born. By the time MMA took off Rickson was too old. It's not his fault. But in his prime he would have done very well in MMA. He was strong, fast, flexible, incredible endurance, and very smart
Thats what i thought.
Watching all fight of MMA and asking some question to MMA athletes. Look like the flexibility is the most important thing. And Rickson was like a snake!
Fedor also has good flexbility. Flexibility is the most important thing in ground skill.
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MMA today compared to Rickson's generation and before, is just play. A sport designed to entertain and excite. In the Vale Tude (literally: anything goes) days the ref's job was confined to just keeping the fighters from falling out of the ring and raising the hand of the winner. These were bare knuckle, head butting, no time limits fights. Helio Gracie (Rickson's father) while in his fifties fought for over three hours straight against a former student.
Real fighting isn't pretty. But it isn't meant to be.
In the first fight Rickson is fighting Zulu for the second time. He beat him 3 years earlier at 18 years old. The second clip is a typical tournament with one of the fights featuring Rorion Gracie who brought Jiu-Jitsu to the world and is primarily responsible for changing martial arts forever.
Sure they were no name and you can never be sure how things would have gone with today's fighters. Still, this was the real thing. They didn't make big bucks but just fought because they were warriors.
Rickson at 49 years old doing a cameo for the Incredible Hulk. Hasn't changed much since the days I got to roll with him in the early 1990's
Nice post! ;)
Good education for UFC worshipper. ;D
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Oh Brotha.
Fedor shouldn't be compared to Kimbo in any sense.
As a BJJ practicioner, and a member of the Relson Gracie association, I will say that Rickson, in all his greatness, would get destroyed by Fedor. If Mas Funaki, can clip Rickson, Fedor would pummel him. Big Nog, who is the best MMA fighting BJJ blackbelt got destroyed by Fedor on two occasions. Fedor's ground and pound would KO Rickson from Top. Rickson is only superior on the mat, without striking. I don't think his closed guard would be sufficient to stop Fedor from posturing up and dropping some heavy strikes to KO Rickson.
Regarding the loss to Tripp, "he didn't understand the rules." ;D
If they were to fight again, Rickson by armbar. (had to say it.)
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anyone got a link to the fight?
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Oh Brotha.
Fedor shouldn't be compared to Kimbo in any sense.
As a BJJ practicioner, and a member of the Relson Gracie association, I will say that Rickson, in all his greatness, would get destroyed by Fedor. If Mas Funaki, can clip Rickson, Fedor would pummel him. Big Nog, who is the best MMA fighting BJJ blackbelt got destroyed by Fedor on two occasions. Fedor's ground and pound would KO Rickson from Top. Rickson is only superior on the mat, without striking. I don't think his closed guard would be sufficient to stop Fedor from posturing up and dropping some heavy strikes to KO Rickson.
Regarding the loss to Tripp, "he didn't understand the rules." ;D
If they were to fight again, Rickson by armbar. (had to say it.)
You are delusional, and I mean that with no disrespect. Rickson's record in professional fights is 460-0. Show me a single fighter that can even approximate this. If we include amateur brawls, that record rises to 2,000+ wins with no losses.
You seem to ignore that, even to this day, most fights end on the ground, and who's the king there? ;) Are you really that insane that you believe that Fedor would be able to grapple with Rickson once they are on the ground? Fedor has a small chance of knocking him out when they are still standing, but that's his only chance.
If you think that Fedor's greater size and strengh would close the deal, think again. Rickson has fought with Zulu, a giant who outweighted him by 100 lbs, and who could crack the trunk of a small palm tree with his base hands. Strikers, graplers, wrestlers; Rickson has fought with all and defeated them all. Boxers, kung Fu masters, black belt karate champions; all were demolished by Rickson. As for a BJJ black belt having been defeated at MMA, who cares? He was not Rickson. ;) Rickson makes black belts seem like white belts. Like Royce said:"Rickson is ten times better than me. When it comes to him, I am just a fan like everybody else." Or to quote Mirko Filopovic:"Rickson is Zeus, the god of the gods." Just accept the facts that Rickson is the greatest ever, and bow down before crushing greatness when it's staring at you. ;)
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Viva Rickson!!!!
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Could be because Rickson has been in it since before MMA was around and before Fedor was born. By the time MMA took off Rickson was too old. It's not his fault. But in his prime he would have done very well in MMA. He was strong, fast, flexible, incredible endurance, and very smart
Yeah that's why he never fought Bas Rutten who challenged him and never defended the family name when Sakuraba was raping the Gracies.
There was plenty of quality competition around, he just never faced any of them!
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Yeah that's why he never fought Bas Rutten who challenged him and never defended the family name when Sakuraba was raping the Gracies.
Why does Rickson need to fight against everyone who challenges him? Do you have any idea how many people in the World challenge Rickson to fight? If Rickson were to accept every challenge made to him, he would be fighting 24 hours a day, and there would still be people waiting in line for years to fight him. Bas Rutten is a second-tier fighter who never achieved the level Rickson has, so why should Rickson accept his challenge instead of the other millions of challenges fighters make him?
There was plenty of quality competition around, he just never faced any of them!
Garbage. He fought against the best of his time. He even won the first two editions of PRIDE. He was 37 in 1998, so it's not like he could continue fighting forever. The only reason why he stopped is because he was getting too old for fighting, and not because he was "afraid" of anyone. Rickson afraid? He has said in interviews that he is willing to die in the ring. Like a Japanese fighting magazine once said about him, he has Samurai spirit, and let me tell you that the Japanese comparing a foreigner to Samurais is no mean feat!
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He fought against the best of his time.
He most certainly did not.
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Rickson for president 08'
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He most certainly did not.
He most certainly did! Takada, for instance, was a five time Japan champion of Sambo, a professional wrestler who even qualified for the Olympics, and yet Rickson crushed him. Twice. It wasn't even close. What more do want him to do to prove himself? He won each and every single BJJ match he ever entered, the Japan Open four times and PRIDE two times. These were the top fighting championships from the time he was competing.
Did I also mention that his record in professional fights is 460-0? Did I also mention that, including brawls and amateur fights, his record is over 2,000 wins with no losses? Also, I don't know if you are aware of this, but in the Ayuverdic religion of India, Rickson is regarded as an avatar, that is, the bodily incarnation of a god. Rickson can be defeated...but not by mortal men.
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He most certainly did! Takada, for instance, was a five time Japan champion of Sambo, a professional wrestler who even qualified for the Olympics, and yet Rickson crushed him. Twice. It wasn't even close. What more do want him to do to prove himself? He won each and every single BJJ match he ever entered, the Japan Open four times and PRIDE two times. These were the top fighting championships from the time he was competing.
Did I also mention that his record in professional fights is 460-0? Did I also mention that, including brawls and amateur fights, his record is over 2,000 wins with no losses? Also, I don't know if you are aware of this, but in the Ayuverdic religion of India, Rickson is regarded as an avatar, that is, the bodily incarnation of a god. Rickson can be defeated...but not by mortal men.
Didn't Helio once remark dryly that "If Rickson has 2000 wins I have over a million"?
From what I've read Rickson added some Dojo practice sessions to that 2000
I think Rickson (and you) have been drinking his own kool aid
Taken from Wiki
In an exclusive interview with Sherdog's Denis Martins, Rickson Gracie confirmed he was looking to return to the ring. "Possibly something in the beginning of next year, I hope," said Gracie, "if the price is right, I go for the competition.
Rickson has raised the ire of some in the MMA community by criticizing the abilities of current top fighters, claiming that he could still beat them easily today. In a recent interview with Tokyo Sports, Rickson argued that Fedor Emelianenko is a great athlete, but possesses "so-so" technical ability, and that he (Rickson) is "100% sure" that he would defeat him.[12] Previous comments of this sort that Rickson made about Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira prompted Wanderlei Silva to say that Rickson is "living in a fantasy world."[13]
Old Wanderlei Quote:
Tatame: The challenge you made to Rickson on Tatame TV was big news. Will it happen?
Vanderlei: The promoters will put up the money, but the guy (Rickson) will want to ask for 5 million US dollars... It won't be able to take place like that. He wants to make almost the same money as me (being sarcastic), the champion... To tell you the truth, I made the challange, but I know it won't happen. Mainly because he's at an advanced age. My only thing is with the comments he made. If he wanted, he could use his fame to help propel the sport, have an event, or maybe help promote the sport around the world. But instead he defames the athletes who are actually fighting, saying that the level of fighter is low and that Minotauro has no guard. That's absurd! Minotauro is part of vale-tudo history. The fight he had against Bob Sapp... what was that??? So, I feel that Rickson is living in a fantasy world, like Star Wars. The things he said left me upset, and I will always challenge anyone who talks bad about my sport.
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He most certainly did! Takada, for instance, was a five time Japan champion of Sambo, a professional wrestler who even qualified for the Olympics, and yet Rickson crushed him. Twice. It wasn't even close. What more do want him to do to prove himself? He won each and every single BJJ match he ever entered, the Japan Open four times and PRIDE two times. These were the top fighting championships from the time he was competing.
Did I also mention that his record in professional fights is 460-0? Did I also mention that, including brawls and amateur fights, his record is over 2,000 wins with no losses? Also, I don't know if you are aware of this, but in the Ayuverdic religion of India, Rickson is regarded as an avatar, that is, the bodily incarnation of a god. Rickson can be defeated...but not by mortal men.
Takada's MMA record is 2-6. The only notewhorthy opponent on Rickson's 11-0 MMA record against mostly c-level competition is Funaki.
I really don't know if you're trolling or being serious but Rickson's MMA record is there for everyone to see. As are the quality opponents that were active at the time.
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Didn't Helio once remark dryly that "If Rickson has 2000 wins I have over a million"?
From what I've read Rickson added some Dojo practice sessions to that 2000
Like I said, he has 2,000+ wins with no losses if you include amateur brawls, so I have no idea what you're bitching about.
And Helio did say that, and it is not surprising considering that he's 95 years old, so obviously he has more fights than Rickson. I never claimed that Rickson had more fights than Helio, so again I don't understand what's the point of your complaining.
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Takada's MMA record is 2-6. The only notewhorthy opponent on Rickson's 11-0 MMA record against mostly c-level competition is Funaki.
The reason why Takada's record in MMA is not that good is because he was a wrestler and sambo fighter and not accustomed to fight without ruled. You need to be a complete lunatic to believe that a man who qualified for the Olympics in wrestling is not a good fighter. And Rickson's record is 11-0, which proves my point about him being that good. Show me a single fighter that has 11 wins in a row with no losses. Fedor in comparison never won 11 consecutive fights without a loss like Rickson. The only reason why Rickson's record in MMA is 11-0 and not 500-0 is because, again, MMA came after his time. He would have dominated MMA like he did all other modalities of fighting if MMA were around in his prime.
I really don't know if you're trolling or being serious but Rickson's MMA record is there for everyone to see. As are the quality opponents that were active at the time.
Yes, Rickson's MMA record is there for everyone to see, and it's spectacular. Again, all wins and no losses. The number of wins is irrelevant because what matters is the winning %, and Rickson's is 100%!!! This is like saying that a guy who just started fighting and got his first win shouldn't be congratulated for his victory becasue 1 win is nothing and he can be defeated in the future. The problem is that this argument can be applied to any number of wins. You could point out to Rickson's 450-0 record in non-MMA fighting and claim that it doesen't matter because if continued fighting he could lose the next 3,000 games.
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Like I said, he has 2,000+ wins with no losses if you include amateur brawls, so I have no idea what you're bitching about.
And Helio did say that, and it is not surprising considering that he's 95 years old, so obviously he has more fights than Rickson. I never claimed that Rickson had more fights than Helio, so again I don't understand what's the point of your complaining.
I'm just pointing out that when you add all amateur brawls and dojo battles you can have a pretty high figure. In which case Nogeira/Wanderlei silva, etc can claim to have 1000 -2000 fights too.
I think what Helio meant in sarcasm is that Rickson is too full of himself. A opinion echoed by several other fighters.
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Did you ever see Rickson fight?
He did some cool stuff and was
very skilled in BJJ but he
was not that impressive as an MMA fighter.
His claims actually diminish him.
All that hype and that bs 50000-0 record is
just annoying
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The reason why Takada's record in MMA is not that good is because he was a wrestler and sambo fighter and not accustomed to fight without ruled. You need to be a complete lunatic to believe that a man who qualified for the Olympics in wrestling is not a good fighter. And Rickson's record is 11-0, which proves my point about him being that good. Show me a single fighter that has 11 wins in a row with no losses. Fedor in comparison never won 11 consecutive fights without a loss like Rickson. The only reason why Rickson's record in MMA is 11-0 and not 500-0 is because, again, MMA came after his time. He would have dominated MMA like he did all other modalities of fighting if MMA were around in his prime.
Yes, Rickson's MMA record is there for everyone to see, and it's spectacular. Again, all wins and no losses. The number of wins is irrelevant because what matters is the winning %, and Rickson's is 100%!!! This is like saying that a guy who just started fighting and got his first win shouldn't be congratulated for his victory becasue 1 win is nothing and he can be defeated in the future. The problem is that this argument can be applied to any number of wins. You could point out to Rickson's 450-0 record in non-MMA fighting and claim that it doesen't matter because if continued fighting he could lose the next 3,000 games.
What the fuck are you talking about? Fedor has 26 consecutive wins! And unlike Rickson they are against real competition!
And MMA did not come after his time. His fight against Funaki was in 2000.
I swear to god Rickson fans are almost as delusional as Bruce Lee fans.
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What the fuck are you talking about? Fedor has 26 consecutive wins! And unlike Rickson they are against real competition!
Oh man, you are seriosuly deluded. I said that Rickson has 11 consecutive wins in MMA fighting. If we include all his professional fights and not only MMA, then he has 460 consecutive wins. Can fedor even remotely approximate that? And please shut up about how great Fedor's competition is compared to Rickson's. Modern MMA fighters are shitty compared to those of Rickson's time and those from the early days of MMA. I am talking about fighters like Mark Kerr, Marcos Ruas, Maurice Smith, Coleman, etc. All these gusy were much better than the current crop of fighters. Who are the good fighters of today? Chuck Liddel? Please, these guys are awful.
And MMA did not come after his time. His fight against Funaki was in 2000.
And guess what? He was 40 years old. And he won. So imagine Rickson in his late twenties/early thirties. A smashing machine!
I swear to god Rickson fans are almost as delusional as Bruce Lee fans.
The only delusion is yours. You think that Fedor, a guy who is not even in shape most of the time and carries love handles in his waist, is this invincible fighter, just because he defeated a bunch of nobodies in rigged fights. Please...Fedor wouldn't last a single round against a prime Kerr or Coleman. Even Wand Silva in his prime would crush Fedor. I'm not talking about the post-prime, injured Wanderlei that lost to Liddle, but the Wanderlei that made Clinton "Rampage" Jackson kiss the mat in PRIDE. Any of these guys would crush Fedor, let alone the ultimate god, Rickson. Even Crocop, who's only real great skill is his high left leg kick, gave Fedor a run for his money and almost crushed him.
Here are the facts:
- Rickson won each and every single MMA fight he ever entered against the best fighters from his time.
- Rickson won each and every single BJJ match he ever entered against opponents who were up to fifth degree jiu-jitsu black belts.
- Rickson has 460-0 record in professional fights, and a 2,000-0 record including amateur fights.
You have yet to show any other fighter that comes even remotely close to these stats. So nice try, but you fail. ;)
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I'm not going to read all that because it's all BS anyway. You're an obvious troll. But I do see you mentioned Kerr and Coleman. Two fighters who were active when Rickson was active and guess what? He never faced them.
Also I probably don't need to mention, since you hold Coleman in such high regard, that Fedor dominated him twice.
Tata
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I'm not going to read all that because it's all BS anyway. You're an obvious troll. But I do see you mentioned Kerr and Coleman. Two fighters who were active when Rickson was active and guess what? He never faced them.
Translation: I can't counter anything he wrote, so I will call him a troll because this allows me go off on a tangent without actually having to debate him. ;)
Also I probably don't need to mention, since you hold Coleman in such high regard, that Fedor dominated him twice.
Sure, he defeated a Coleman that was ancient and far past his prime. This is why I said a "prime" Coleman, Kerr, Silva, etc. You very obviously know nothing.
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You are delusional, and I mean that with no disrespect. Rickson's record in professional fights is 460-0. Show me a single fighter that can even approximate this. If we include amateur brawls, that record rises to 2,000+ wins with no losses.
You seem to ignore that, even to this day, most fights end on the ground, and who's the king there? ;) Are you really that insane that you believe that Fedor would be able to grapple with Rickson once they are on the ground? Fedor has a small chance of knocking him out when they are still standing, but that's his only chance.
If you think that Fedor's greater size and strengh would close the deal, think again. Rickson has fought with Zulu, a giant who outweighted him by 100 lbs, and who could crack the trunk of a small palm tree with his base hands. Strikers, graplers, wrestlers; Rickson has fought with all and defeated them all. Boxers, kung Fu masters, black belt karate champions; all were demolished by Rickson. As for a BJJ black belt having been defeated at MMA, who cares? He was not Rickson. ;) Rickson makes black belts seem like white belts. Like Royce said:"Rickson is ten times better than me. When it comes to him, I am just a fan like everybody else." Or to quote Mirko Filopovic:"Rickson is Zeus, the god of the gods." Just accept the facts that Rickson is the greatest ever, and bow down before crushing greatness when it's staring at you. ;)
colossal stupidity fueled by delusion and ignorance :-\
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colossal stupidity fueled by delusion and ignorance :-\
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Colossal stupidity from someone who accuses another of colossal stupidity while providing no evidence or logical argument to support his statement whatsoever. ;)
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You are delusional, and I mean that with no disrespect. Rickson's record in professional fights is 460-0. Show me a single fighter that can even approximate this. If we include amateur brawls, that record rises to 2,000+ wins with no losses.
You seem to ignore that, even to this day, most fights end on the ground, and who's the king there? ;) Are you really that insane that you believe that Fedor would be able to grapple with Rickson once they are on the ground? Fedor has a small chance of knocking him out when they are still standing, but that's his only chance.
If you think that Fedor's greater size and strengh would close the deal, think again. Rickson has fought with Zulu, a giant who outweighted him by 100 lbs, and who could crack the trunk of a small palm tree with his base hands. Strikers, graplers, wrestlers; Rickson has fought with all and defeated them all. Boxers, kung Fu masters, black belt karate champions; all were demolished by Rickson. As for a BJJ black belt having been defeated at MMA, who cares? He was not Rickson. ;) Rickson makes black belts seem like white belts. Like Royce said:"Rickson is ten times better than me. When it comes to him, I am just a fan like everybody else." Or to quote Mirko Filopovic:"Rickson is Zeus, the god of the gods." Just accept the facts that Rickson is the greatest ever, and bow down before crushing greatness when it's staring at you. ;)
Man he has great TD defense. ;) Sub grappling, BJJ tournaments do not a fight make. Beating Zulu? Come on. Enson Inoue put a beatdown on Zulu, and even though Enson is a friend of mine, he wouldn't exactly compare Zulu to Fedor. Why didn't Rickson fight Saku? Kerr? Plenty of opportunity. He instead chose to fight Takada, twice. A notorious "pro." Takada's resume is as full of holes as Barack Obama's. The only noteworthy Takada ever did was have a dojo that Saku came out of, and he had about as much influence on Saku as Inoki had on Machida. In other words, none. Mas Funaki gave Rickson a decent mouse, what the hell would Fedor have done? Again, I am a Gracie association student, have repped Relson in sub grappling, even rolled with Rickson himself (yes he is a God in subgrappling), but his game has too many holes. Fedor could beat him standing, in the clinch, and unless Rickson got top, Fedor would GNP him into oblivion. Don't think so, watch the two Nog fights. Nog has one of the best closed guards in MMA/NHB. Again, this is not sub grappling. Bud Smith, David Levicki, Gordon Gordeau, Yuki Nakai are all tough guys, but none of them are even in the same league as Fedor.
Counting guys like Larry Hartsell, Hayward Nishioka, Erik Paulson (who was his student at the time), Mark Shultz as wins on one's record is ludicrous. And if that is the case, where is the Ron Tripp "fight" which Rickson lost, but complained that he didn't know the rules. I guess it falls in line with the Stan "The Man" versus Dennis Alexio fight, wherein Alexio gets his leg broken by a roundhouse kick, his manager Bob Wall protests and has it removed because the association Alexio was the champion did not allow round kicks? WTF? Again, this coming from a Gracie student. Stop the blind jockriding and give some honest evaluation of what is real, and not so much. You lost all credibility when you listed Zulu as a landmark fight for Rickson. Hell Rickson's beach battle with Hugo Duarte was more significant.
I'd dare to venture that Ze Mario was the better NHB/MMA fighter than Rickson. At least Ze Mario took on all comers. Renzo is THE FIGHTING GRACIE. He fights anyone, any size, purse nothwistanding.
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Man he has great TD defense. ;) Sub grappling, BJJ tournaments do not a fight make. Beating Zulu? Come on. Enson Inoue put a beatdown on Zulu, and even though Enson is a friend of mine, he wouldn't exactly compare Zulu to Fedor. Why didn't Rickson fight Saku? Kerr? Plenty of opportunity. He instead chose to fight Takada, twice. A notorious "pro." Takada's resume is as full of holes as Barack Obama's. The only noteworthy Takada ever did was have a dojo that Saku came out of, and he had about as much influence on Saku as Inoki had on Machida. In other words, none. Mas Funaki gave Rickson a decent mouse, what the hell would Fedor have done? Again, I am a Gracie association student, have repped Relson in sub grappling, even rolled with Rickson himself (yes he is a God in subgrappling), but his game has too many holes. Fedor could beat him standing, in the clinch, and unless Rickson got top, Fedor would GNP him into oblivion. Don't think so, watch the two Nog fights. Nog has one of the best closed guards in MMA/NHB. Again, this is not sub grappling. Bud Smith, David Levicki, Gordon Gordeau, Yuki Nakai are all tough guys, but none of them are even in the same league as Fedor.
Counting guys like Larry Hartsell, Hayward Nishioka, Erik Paulson (who was his student at the time), Mark Shultz as wins on one's record is ludicrous. And if that is the case, where is the Ron Tripp "fight" which Rickson lost, but complained that he didn't know the rules. I guess it falls in line with the Stan "The Man" versus Dennis Alexio fight, wherein Alexio gets his leg broken by a roundhouse kick, his manager Bob Wall protests and has it removed because the association Alexio was the champion did not allow round kicks? WTF? Again, this coming from a Gracie student. Stop the blind jockriding and give some honest evaluation of what is real, and not so much. You lost all credibility when you listed Zulu as a landmark fight for Rickson. Hell Rickson's beach battle with Hugo Duarte was more significant.
I'd dare to venture that Ze Mario was the better NHB/MMA fighter than Rickson. At least Ze Mario took on all comers. Renzo is THE FIGHTING GRACIE. He fights anyone, any size, purse nothwistanding.
Thank you for pointing that out. Good to hear from someone who has grappled with Rickson.
Rickson also made retarded statements like Nog has no guard + Rickson is more interested in the financial reward. Renzo on the other hand is tough as hell, will take on any challenge and is a nice guy to boot. Doesn't need to claim dojo wins to gain credibility
Would be cool to have you on the MMA boards more often
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Thank you for pointing that out. Good to hear from someone who has grappled with Rickson.
Rickson also made retarded statements like Nog has no guard + Rickson is more interested in the financial reward. Renzo on the other hand is tough as hell, will take on any challenge and is a nice guy to boot. Doesn't need to claim dojo wins to gain credibility
Would be cool to have you on the MMA boards more often
He didn't beat me ;)
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Colossal stupidity from someone who accuses another of colossal stupidity while providing no evidence or logical argument to support his statement whatsoever. ;)
you think rickson could beat fedor
how is that for a "logical argument" ::)
i won't even waste my time debating it further because it is so ridiculous
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Thank you for pointing that out. Good to hear from someone who has grappled with Rickson.
Rickson also made retarded statements like Nog has no guard + Rickson is more interested in the financial reward. Renzo on the other hand is tough as hell, will take on any challenge and is a nice guy to boot. Doesn't need to claim dojo wins to gain credibility
Would be cool to have you on the MMA boards more often
That place has become a soap opera. The only time I'll post there is if I see something so ludicrous I can't keep my mouth shut. I'd rather post MMA stuff on the UG.