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....is basically a 'confidence game'.
So, who, here, has the confidence?
I do!
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....is basically a 'confidence game'.
So, who, here, has the confidence?
I do!
HAHAHAHAHAAHH GET IN LINE FOR YOUR DAILY RATIONS BOY..... THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL SOON BE HEARING
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Time Magazine can blow me.
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HAHAHAHAHAAHH GET IN LINE FOR YOUR DAILY RATIONS BOY..... THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL SOON BE HEARING
That's YOUR reality, "boy".
HTH
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HAHAHAHAHAAHH GET IN LINE FOR YOUR DAILY RATIONS BOY..... THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL SOON BE HEARING
Well, I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but that's exactly what the liberals want......for you to depend on the government for everything.
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America is the greatest nation on Earth. I dare any fucking socialist, eurofag scumfuck to say otherwise to my face. I will beat them to death and then fuck them
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America is the greatest nation on Earth. I dare any fucking socialist, eurofag scumfuck to say otherwise to my face. I will beat them to death and then fuck them
BSB, you get free lunch on ME!
Phil Gramm said 'The U.S. is only in a "mental recession."
I wholeheartedly agree.
All contrived.
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Well, I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but that's exactly what the liberals want......for you to depend on the government for everything.
your fucking moronic.
yeah, and conservatives want little kids to have fully autmoatic guns and to shoot everyone who steps foot on their property ::)
partisan fuck ...
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America is the greatest nation on Earth. I dare any fucking socialist, eurofag scumfuck to say otherwise to my face. I will beat them to death and then fuck them
Obama
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but were in debt nearly 10 Trillion to China, or is that just in our heads?
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your fucking moronic.
yeah, and conservatives want little kids to have fully autmoatic guns and to shoot everyone who steps foot on their property ::)
partisan fuck ...
Hmmm, I don't think Coach thinks that....
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your fucking moronic.
yeah, and conservatives want little kids to have fully autmoatic guns and to shoot everyone who steps foot on their property ::)
partisan fuck ...
At least you're not denying it.
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but were in debt nearly 10 Trillion to China, or is that just in our heads?
Who says you have to pay any of that back?
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but were in debt nearly 10 Trillion to China, or is that just in our heads?
Is China spending that on their people?
On their population control?
On their disgusting overcrowding or pollution crises?
You must leverage debt to build wealth.
If this number is so, do you think we just borrow and then burn the money?
This is how WE build wealth.
You must look at BOTH pos and neg sides of things.
Or not.
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your fucking moronic.
yeah, and conservatives want little kids to have fully autmoatic guns and to shoot everyone who steps foot on their property ::)partisan fuck ...
No...only people who step in my house and threaten my family.
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Who says you have to pay any of that back?
What, are they going to close up all of their rat-infested Chinese restaurants here? ;D
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lol
people discussing politics who have zero clue about anything related to politics
::)
hahhaa
why dont you guys spend your time discussing something where your opinions actually matter ?
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The U.S. economy is an economy based on emotion.
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The chinese are fueled (no pun) by cheap energy, they are using old school methods by which to prosper. Once we stop buying their shit and they develop a robust middle class they will learn growing pains and we will fuck them.
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The U.S. economy is an economy based on emotion.
Post of the day (so far)
Fear and greed are the two things that rule our markets.
People buy on emotion, and then 'logic' it out later, at home, when it is often too late.
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The chinese are fueled (no pun) by cheap energy, they are using old school methods by which to prosper. Once we stop buying their shit and they develop a robust middle class they will learn growing pains and we will fuck them.
When all their dog/cat food was coming here poisoned, their 'minister of food'(or whatever the fuck they called him) was beheaded by the end of the week.
No shit on this.
Why would anyone here or anywhere else fear a people who are so solidly entrenched in the 4th century?
Sorry, I don't buy it.
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No...only people who step in my house and threaten my family.
okay coach
your an idiot
let me spell out the argument i made for you
OK
YOU SAID ALL LIBERALS WANT PEOPLE TO DEPEND ON THE GOVERNMENT FOR EVERYTHING
this is absolutely false. its an over exaggeration. its playing off of liberal support for government programs. its an extremely close minded partisan thing to say.
so, to show you how stupid your comment was, i FLIP THE TABLES. i make the same kind of stupid, partisan, exaggerated comment. but i make it based on conservative support for certain issues.
in this case, i use conservative support for gun rights and property rights to exaggerate,
so i say
ALL CONSERVATIVES WANT LITTLE KIDS TO HAVE FULL AUTOMATIC WEPAONS AND SHOOT EVERONE WHO COMESON THEIR PROPERTY.
see? what i do here is take conservative suppoort of a certain issue, high light the possible negatives of such support, and attribute conservative support to those negative things.
:D
free lesson in political debate
now run along retard
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yeah, and conservatives want little kids to have fully autmoatic guns and to shoot everyone who steps foot on their property ::)
Every law-abiding man and woman in the USA should have the right to cap anyone posing a threat to his/her family.
The debt we've sold to chinia is scary. They hold deeds to US national parks and roads should we default. I can't even imagine how ugly it could get. Luckily, China is starving for oil, and we can sell them iraqi and afghan/caspian oil for decades to pay off the Bush borrowing.
The next president, no matter who it is, will slow the debt borrowing. Or he will be the one painted by history as crashing the economy. neither obama nor mccain will do that. Obama will tax the fvck out of people - which is good for the nation as a whole, but sucks for the individual making 200k+ or holding stocks. Mccain will curb a few things, but needs to tighten the military strings.
We can't keep borrowing a tril a year. We just can't. The dollar has lost 41% of its value worldwide to the Euro, in the last 7 years. What would another 7 years bring? A total of 82% drop? Dear God, that'd be bad...
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Every law-abiding man and woman in the USA should have the right to cap anyone posing a threat to his/her family.
The debt we've sold to chinia is scary. They hold deeds to US national parks and roads should we default. I can't even imagine how ugly it could get. Luckily, China is starving for oil, and we can sell them iraqi and afghan/caspian oil for decades to pay off the Bush borrowing.
The next president, no matter who it is, will slow the debt borrowing. Or he will be the one painted by history as crashing the economy. neither obama nor mccain will do that. Obama will tax the fvck out of people - which is good for the nation as a whole, but sucks for the individual making 200k+ or holding stocks. Mccain will curb a few things, but needs to tighten the military strings.
We can't keep borrowing a tril a year. We just can't. The dollar has lost 41% of its value worldwide to the Euro, in the last 7 years. What would another 7 years bring? A total of 82% drop? Dear God, that'd be bad...
240 you can rread my lesso in political deabte as well
;D
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Every law-abiding man and woman in the USA should have the right to cap anyone posing a threat to his/her family.
The debt we've sold to chinia is scary. They hold deeds to US national parks and roads should we default. I can't even imagine how ugly it could get. Luckily, China is starving for oil, and we can sell them iraqi and afghan/caspian oil for decades to pay off the Bush borrowing.
The next president, no matter who it is, will slow the debt borrowing. Or he will be the one painted by history as crashing the economy. neither obama nor mccain will do that. Obama will tax the fvck out of people - which is good for the nation as a whole, but sucks for the individual making 200k+ or holding stocks. Mccain will curb a few things, but needs to tighten the military strings.
We can't keep borrowing a tril a year. We just can't. The dollar has lost 41% of its value worldwide to the Euro, in the last 7 years. What would another 7 years bring? A total of 82% drop? Dear God, that'd be bad...
It'll be staved off.
I like how everone here (not you, 240) thinks they know more than the politicians.
Sure, sure, they may be scoundrels or bastards, or liars, whatever, but they ARE some of tghe brightest minds in the world, and/or the brightest minds in the world work for them/us.
We shall prevail
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What, are they going to close up all of their rat-infested Chinese restaurants here? ;D
They own a few million acres of American soil, Ducey. And if they decided tomorrow to stop giving us $15 billion per week, we'd have an economy crash immediately.
Why would anyone here or anywhere else fear a people who are so solidly entrenched in the 4th century?
Because they have us by the economic balls, Mike.
I know you love to rah-rah cheer the USA. I love my country too. And I'm a lifetime republican. I do think you don't understand the economic complexities, or our dependence on china for our very survival.
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It'll be staved off.
I like how everone here (not you, 240) thinks they know more than the politicians.
Sure, sure, they may be scoundrels or bastards, or liars, whatever, but they ARE some of tghe brightest minds in the world, and/or the brightest minds in the world work for them/us.
We shall prevail
This isn't 240 talking.
This is nearly EVERY economist and financial trend projection, both domestically and globally.
They're all saying the same thing. Even the white house is very concerned of the sliding dollar and our necessity borrowing.
The next prez will tax the shit out of us, and will cut spending. both obama and mccain will. They have to.
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They own a few million acres of American soil, Ducey. And if they decided tomorrow to stop giving us $15 billion per week, we'd have an economy crash immediately.
Because they have us by the economic balls, Mike.
I know you love to rah-rah cheer the USA. I love my country too. And I'm a lifetime republican. I do think you don't understand the economic complexities, or our dependence on china for our very survival.
Nah...I understand a bit more than ya think!
We need both people like me & you.
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I'll still be on Lily Pond Lane in East Hampton NY. There isn't any rations here!
Yeah....my house is paid for.
I ain't goin' nowhere!
Moosejay approved
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We shall prevail
Exactly.
The United States - is the Cash Nexus
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Exactly.
The United States - is the Cash Nexus
great word usage
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America is a sinking ship.
Now they start shit in europe with their silly missile defense.
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Who the hell is confident listening to the mainstream media? The fear mongering never ends with the major news networks...they want everyone to be scared.
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Who the hell is confident listening to the mainstream media? The fear mongering never ends with the major news networks...they want everyone to be scared.
Exactly, relentless.
At least you see this.
They target those with 6th-8th grade educations (too many people these days).
Journalists=the least trusted profession today.
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That's YOUR reality, "boy".
HTH
HAHHA...DON'T GET UP TIGHT MOOOSEYBOY, AS SOON AS THE ECONOMY TANKS (WHICH WILL BE SOON) YOU WILL HAVE EVERYONE FROM THE MILITARY TO UN PEACE KEEPERS ON U.S. SOIL ROOTING OUT EVERY SCUM SUCKING LOWLIFE. AMERICA WILL BE HANDED OVER TO THE RUSSIANS, CHINESE, EUROPEANS AND ARABS WHO OWN THE WHOLE GOD DAMN PLACE ANYWAY. WITH SAUDIA ARABIA HAVING INVESTED 4 TRILLION DOLLARS IN AMERICA DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GONNA JUST SIT THERE AND WATCH THEIR MONEY DISAPPEAR??? HELL NO...THEY ARE COMING TO CLAIM WHAT THEY HAVE INVESTED IN. DO YOU THINK THE CHINESE ARE GOING TO WATCH THEIR TRILLIONS BLOW AWAY LIKE DUST...THEY ARE COMING TO CLAIM WHAT IS THEIRS...THE EUROS WHO CAN'T STAND WHITES IN AMERICA ANYWAY ARE COMING TO CLAIM THEIRS AND WILL HAVE WHITES IN FEMA CAMPS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT A PROBLEM YOU ARE AND THE RUSKIES ARE COMING TO CLAIM THEIRS. WHOLE AREAS WILL COME UNDER CONTROL OF FOREIGN NATIONS AND THEY WILL SET POLICY AND LAW AND UNLIKE AMERICA MILITARY AND COPS, THESE PEOPLE WILL HAVE NO AFFINITY FOR YOU AND WILL SHOOT ON DEMAND AND AT WILL.
YOU CAN FORGET YOUR SO CALLED MILITARY IN AMERICA...WITH NO MONEY, AND OIL CUT OFF AND MASSIVE DEBT AMERICA WILL HAVE NO POWER BUT TO SIT AND WATCH ITSELF TAKEN OVER AND TAKEN APART. FOR THE IDIOT WHO THINK THAT BECAUSE THEIR HOME IS PAID FOR OR BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN FAGVILLE HAMPTONS YOU WILL BE THE FIRST ONE THEY COME AFTER...SEIZING YOUR ASSETS, MONEY ETC FOR TEH SAKE OF AMERICA'S DEBT. DON'T GET COMFORTABLE IN YOUR HOME...IT WON'T BE YOURS FOR LONG. ALSO DO YOU THINK YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL SIT IDLY BY IN POVERTY AND WANT WHILE YOU SIT IN YOUR HOUSE AND EAT WELL??? HAHAH YO DON'T UNDERSTAND HUMAN PSYCHE AT ALL...YOUR LONG STANDING NEIGHBORS WILL BE THE FIRST TO ATTACK YOU FOR MONEY AND FOOD AND SHELTER....
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Well, I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but that's exactly what the liberals want......for you to depend on the government for everything.
A bit long I know. But man you have to read this, funny as hell.
July 20, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist
It’s the Economic Stupidity, Stupid
By FRANK RICH
THE best thing to happen to John McCain was for the three network anchors to leave him in the dust this week while they chase Barack Obama on his global Lollapalooza tour. Were voters forced to actually focus on Mr. McCain’s response to our spiraling economic crisis at home, the prospect of his ascension to the Oval Office could set off a panic that would make the IndyMac Bank bust in Pasadena look as merry as the Rose Bowl.
“In a time of war,” Mr. McCain said last week, “the commander in chief doesn’t get a learning curve.” Fair enough, but he imparted this wisdom in a speech that was almost a year behind Mr. Obama in recognizing Afghanistan as the central front in the war against Al Qaeda. Given that it took the deadliest Taliban suicide bombing in Kabul since 9/11 to get Mr. McCain’s attention, you have to wonder if even General Custer’s learning curve was faster than his.
Mr. McCain still doesn’t understand that we can’t send troops to Afghanistan unless they’re shifted from Iraq. But simple math, to put it charitably, has never been his forte. When it comes to the central front of American anxiety — the economy — his learning curve has flat-lined.
In 2000, he told an interviewer that he would make up for his lack of attention to “those issues.” As he entered the 2008 campaign, Mr. McCain was still saying the same, vowing to read “Greenspan’s book” as a tutorial. Last weekend, the resolutely analog candidate told The New York Times he is at last starting to learn how “to get online myself.” Perhaps he’ll retire his abacus by Election Day.
Mr. McCain’s fiscal ineptitude has received so little scrutiny in some press quarters that his chief economic adviser, the former Senator Phil Gramm of Texas, got a free pass until the moment he self-immolated on video by whining about “a nation of whiners.” The McCain-Gramm bond, dating back 15 years, is more scandalous than Mr. Obama’s connection with his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Mr. McCain has been so dependent on Mr. Gramm for economic policy that he sent him to newspaper editorial board meetings, no doubt to correct the candidate’s numbers much as Joe Lieberman cleans up after his confusions of Sunni and Shia.
Just two weeks before publicly sharing his thoughts about America’s “mental recession,” Mr. Gramm laid out equally incendiary views in a Wall Street Journal profile that portrayed him as “almost certainly” the McCain choice for Treasury secretary. Mr. Gramm said that the former chief executive of AT&T, Ed Whitacre, was “probably the most exploited worker in American history” since he received only a $158 million pay package rather than the “billions” he deserved for his success in growing Southwestern Bell.
But no one in the news media seemed to notice Mr. Gramm’s naked expression of the mind-set he’d bring to a McCain White House. And few journalists have vetted the presumptive Treasury secretary’s post-Senate history as an executive at UBS. The stock of that banking giant has lost 70 percent of its value in a year after its reckless adventures in the subprime lending market. It’s now fending off federal investigation for helping the megarich avoid taxes.
Mr. McCain made a big show of banishing Mr. Gramm after his whining “gaffe,” but it’s surely at most a temporary suspension. When the candidate said back in January that there’s nobody he knows who is stronger on economic issues than his old Senate pal, he was telling the truth. Left to his own devices — or those of his new No. 1 economic surrogate, Carly Fiorina — Mr. McCain is clueless. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger, a supporter, said that Mr. McCain’s latest panacea for high gas prices, offshore drilling, is snake oil — and then announced his availability to serve as energy czar in an Obama administration.
The term flip-flopping doesn’t do justice to Mr. McCain’s self-contradictory economic pronouncements because that implies there’s some rational, if hypocritical, logic at work. What he serves up instead is plain old incoherence, as if he were compulsively consulting one of those old Magic 8 Balls. In a single 24-hour period in April, Mr. McCain went from saying there’s been “great economic progress” during the Bush presidency to saying “Americans are not better off than they were eight years ago.” He reversed his initial condemnation of mortgage bailouts in just two weeks.
In February Mr. McCain said he would balance the federal budget by the end of his first term even while extending the gargantuan Bush tax cuts. In April he said he’d accomplish this by the end of his second term. In July he’s again saying he’ll do it in his first term. Why not just say he’ll do it on Inauguration Day? It really doesn’t matter since he’s never supplied real numbers that would give this promise even a patina of credibility.
Mr. McCain’s plan for Social Security reform is “along the lines that President Bush proposed.” Or so he said in March. He came out against such “privatization” in June (though his policy descriptions still support it). Last week he indicated he isn’t completely clear on what Social Security does. He called the program’s premise — young taxpayers foot the bill for their elders (including him) — an “absolute disgrace.”
Given that Mr. McCain’s sole private-sector job was a fleeting stint in public relations at his father-in-law’s beer distributorship, he comes by his economic ignorance honestly. But there’s no A team aboard the Straight Talk Express to fill him in. His campaign economist, the former Bush adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin, could be found in the June 5 issue of American Banker suggesting even at that late date that we still don’t know “the depth of the housing crisis” and proposing that “monitoring is the right thing to do in these circumstances.”
Ms. Fiorina, the ubiquitous new public face of McCain economic policy, adds nothing to the mix beyond her incessant display of corporate jargon, from “trend lines” to “start-ups.” Before she was fired at Hewlett-Packard, its stock had declined 50 percent during her five-plus years in charge. She missed earning projections — by 23 percent in one quarter — much as she now misrepresents both the Obama and McCain records. This month she said Mr. McCain wanted to require insurance plans to cover birth control medications along with Viagra, when in fact he had voted against it.
Ms. Fiorina received a $42 million payout (half in cash) from H.P., according to a shareholders’ subsequent lawsuit. With this inspiring résumé, she now aspires to be Mr. McCain’s running mate. So does the irrepressible Mitt Romney, who actually was a business whiz before serving as Massachusetts’s governor. Beltway wisdom has it that the addition of such a corporate star will remedy Mr. McCain’s fiscal flatulence.
But Mr. Romney, while more plausible than Ms. Fiorina, is hardly what America wants at this desperate time. His leveraged buyout dealings as co-founder of Bain Capital induced plant closings, mass layoffs and outsourcing. If Mr. McCain truly intends to “put our country’s interests” above politics and reach across the aisle to move the nation forward, as he constantly tells us, why not go for a vice president who’s the very best fit for the huge challenges at hand?
The obvious choice would be Michael Bloomberg — who, as a former Republican turned independent, would necessitate that Mr. McCain reach only halfway across the aisle, and to someone who is his friend rather than a vanquished rival he is learning to tolerate.
Romney vs. Bloomberg is not a close contest. Bloomberg L.P. has roughly three times the revenues and employees of Bain & Company, where Mr. Romney ultimately served as chief executive. Mr. Romney rescued the Salt Lake City Olympics while running it in 2002, but Mayor Bloomberg revitalized New York, the nation’s largest metropolis, after the most devastating attack in our history. The city he manages has more than twice the budget of Mr. Romney’s state.
Yes, Mr. Bloomberg is a closet Democrat and an alpha dog who doesn’t want to be a second banana. And his views on gay civil rights and abortion would roil the G.O.P. base. But Mr. Romney shared some of those same views before he flip-flopped, and besides, these are not ordinary times. Millions of Americans are losing their homes and jobs. Whole industries are going belly up. The national crisis at hand, not yesterday’s culture wars, should drive the vice-presidential pick.
Mr. McCain reminds us every day how principled he is. That presumably means he’d risk a revolt by his party’s dwindling agents of intolerance and do everything in his power to persuade Mr. Bloomberg to join his ticket in the spirit of patriotic sacrifice. The politics could be advantageous too. A Bloomberg surprise could impress independents and keep the television audience tuned in to a G.O.P. convention that will unfold in the shadow of Mr. Obama’s address to 75,000 screaming fans in Denver.
But this is fantasy political baseball, not reality. Mr. McCain, sad to say, hung up his old maverick’s spurs the day he embraced the Bush tax cuts he had once opposed as “too tilted to the wealthy.” And Mr. Bloomberg? It’s hard to picture a titan who built his empire on computer terminals investing any capital, political or otherwise, in a chief executive who is still learning how to do, as Mr. McCain puts it, “a Google.”
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HAHHA...DON'T GET UP TIGHT MOOOSEYBOY, AS SOON AS THE ECONOMY TANKS (WHICH WILL BE SOON) YOU WILL HAVE EVERYONE FROM THE MILITARY TO UN PEACE KEEPERS ON U.S. SOIL ROOTING OUT EVERY SCUM SUCKING LOWLIFE. AMERICA WILL BE HANDED OVER TO THE RUSSIANS, CHINESE, EUROPEANS AND ARABS WHO OWN THE WHOLE GOD DAMN PLACE ANYWAY. WITH SAUDIA ARABIA HAVING INVESTED 4 TRILLION DOLLARS IN AMERICA DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GONNA JUST SIT THERE AND WATCH THEIR MONEY DISAPPEAR??? HELL NO...THEY ARE COMING TO CLAIM WHAT THEY HAVE INVESTED IN. DO YOU THINK THE CHINESE ARE GOING TO WATCH THEIR TRILLIONS BLOW AWAY LIKE DUST...THEY ARE COMING TO CLAIM WHAT IS THEIRS...THE EUROS WHO CAN'T STAND WHITES IN AMERICA ANYWAY ARE COMING TO CLAIM THEIRS AND WILL HAVE WHITES IN FEMA CAMPS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT A PROBLEM YOU ARE AND THE RUSKIES ARE COMING TO CLAIM THEIRS. WHOLE AREAS WILL COME UNDER CONTROL OF FOREIGN NATIONS AND THEY WILL SET POLICY AND LAW AND UNLIKE AMERICA MILITARY AND COPS, THESE PEOPLE WILL HAVE NO AFFINITY FOR YOU AND WILL SHOOT ON DEMAND AND AT WILL.
YOU CAN FORGET YOUR SO CALLED MILITARY IN AMERICA...WITH NO MONEY, AND OIL CUT OFF AND MASSIVE DEBT AMERICA WILL HAVE NO POWER BUT TO SIT AND WATCH ITSELF TAKEN OVER AND TAKEN APART. FOR THE IDIOT WHO THINK THAT BECAUSE THEIR HOME IS PAID FOR OR BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN FAGVILLE HAMPTONS YOU WILL BE THE FIRST ONE THEY COME AFTER...SEIZING YOUR ASSETS, MONEY ETC FOR TEH SAKE OF AMERICA'S DEBT. DON'T GET COMFORTABLE IN YOUR HOME...IT WON'T BE YOURS FOR LONG. ALSO DO YOU THINK YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL SIT IDLY BY IN POVERTY AND WANT WHILE YOU SIT IN YOUR HOUSE AND EAT WELL??? HAHAH YO DON'T UNDERSTAND HUMAN PSYCHE AT ALL...YOUR LONG STANDING NEIGHBORS WILL BE THE FIRST TO ATTACK YOU FOR MONEY AND FOOD AND SHELTER....
I don't how you do or bother to try and get up every day.
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America is the greatest nation on Earth. I dare any fucking socialist, eurofag scumfuck to say otherwise to my face. I will beat them to death and then fuck them
damn you're one tough mofo
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The USA will be fine, barring some unseen event.
If some idiot overseas decides to shoot a missile into an enemy, things get very hairy here. If Isr hits iran and the straits of hormuz get shut down, we lose 40% of the world's oil... and things get hairy here.
If nothing bad happens, we'll be okay. If some unknown event outside our control occurs, well, there isn't a big safety net.
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HAHHA...DON'T GET UP TIGHT MOOOSEYBOY, AS SOON AS THE ECONOMY TANKS (WHICH WILL BE SOON) YOU WILL HAVE EVERYONE FROM THE MILITARY TO UN PEACE KEEPERS ON U.S. SOIL ROOTING OUT EVERY SCUM SUCKING LOWLIFE. AMERICA WILL BE HANDED OVER TO THE RUSSIANS, CHINESE, EUROPEANS AND ARABS WHO OWN THE WHOLE GOD DAMN PLACE ANYWAY. WITH SAUDIA ARABIA HAVING INVESTED 4 TRILLION DOLLARS IN AMERICA DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GONNA JUST SIT THERE AND WATCH THEIR MONEY DISAPPEAR??? HELL NO...THEY ARE COMING TO CLAIM WHAT THEY HAVE INVESTED IN. DO YOU THINK THE CHINESE ARE GOING TO WATCH THEIR TRILLIONS BLOW AWAY LIKE DUST...THEY ARE COMING TO CLAIM WHAT IS THEIRS...THE EUROS WHO CAN'T STAND WHITES IN AMERICA ANYWAY ARE COMING TO CLAIM THEIRS AND WILL HAVE WHITES IN FEMA CAMPS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT A PROBLEM YOU ARE AND THE RUSKIES ARE COMING TO CLAIM THEIRS. WHOLE AREAS WILL COME UNDER CONTROL OF FOREIGN NATIONS AND THEY WILL SET POLICY AND LAW AND UNLIKE AMERICA MILITARY AND COPS, THESE PEOPLE WILL HAVE NO AFFINITY FOR YOU AND WILL SHOOT ON DEMAND AND AT WILL.
YOU CAN FORGET YOUR SO CALLED MILITARY IN AMERICA...WITH NO MONEY, AND OIL CUT OFF AND MASSIVE DEBT AMERICA WILL HAVE NO POWER BUT TO SIT AND WATCH ITSELF TAKEN OVER AND TAKEN APART. FOR THE IDIOT WHO THINK THAT BECAUSE THEIR HOME IS PAID FOR OR BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN FAGVILLE HAMPTONS YOU WILL BE THE FIRST ONE THEY COME AFTER...SEIZING YOUR ASSETS, MONEY ETC FOR TEH SAKE OF AMERICA'S DEBT. DON'T GET COMFORTABLE IN YOUR HOME...IT WON'T BE YOURS FOR LONG. ALSO DO YOU THINK YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL SIT IDLY BY IN POVERTY AND WANT WHILE YOU SIT IN YOUR HOUSE AND EAT WELL??? HAHAH YO DON'T UNDERSTAND HUMAN PSYCHE AT ALL...YOUR LONG STANDING NEIGHBORS WILL BE THE FIRST TO ATTACK YOU FOR MONEY AND FOOD AND SHELTER....
You seem like the type who wants this type of scenario to play out so you'll feel smarter than everyone else. While plausible, that's certainly the worst-worst case scenario I've heard. I think the American people have a little more spine than you suggest...although most are fast asleep right now. Don't underestimate the resolve of the American people just yet.
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Is China spending that on their people?
On their population control?
On their disgusting overcrowding or pollution crises?
You must leverage debt to build wealth.
If this number is so, do you think we just borrow and then burn the money?
This is how WE build wealth.
You must look at BOTH pos and neg sides of things.
Or not.
We're not expandering incase you hadn't noticed. Not exactly like government spending stimulating the economy or anything.
Quote some well know economist and not something vague out of Time Magazine.
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....is basically a 'confidence game'.
So, who, here, has the confidence?
I do!
Im working legs today thanks for wondering
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Im working legs KFC today thanks for wondering
:D
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You seem like the type who wants this type of scenario to play out so you'll feel smarter than everyone else. While plausible, that's certainly the worst-worst case scenario I've heard. I think the American people have a little more spine than you suggest...although most are fast asleep right now. Don't underestimate the resolve of the American people just yet.
You possess all the arrogance expected of a good ole american...DENY EVERYTHING...Dream on...
I am not giving you MY expected scenario of what is to come...I am telling you what the financial forecasters have been saying for a while now. America is too many TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEBT to come out of this...NO NATION COULD COME OUT OF THIS FINANCIAL MESS.
Thanks to the greedy bastards that run america, the homosexual president, the cheney/halliburton financial waste connection, corporate greed/swindling...that everyone has to take the BLAME...AND NO ONE WILL BE UNSCATHED. Pay attention to the financial markets, listen to the remarks by everyone from Bernanke to Paulson to investment brokers etc... they are all saying the same thing...AMERICA IS IN DEEP TROUBLE, WITH NO WAY OUT. You can not have 77 TRILLION dollars floating around the world with nothing backing it, you can not borrow 100 BILLION PER MONTH FROM CHINA and claim yourself the richest nation on the planet, you can not have spent 3 TRILLION already on the so called war on terror (HAHAHAH) and not find yourself in financial ruin, you can not spend 1 TRILLION every year on bases around the world and domestically deprive the nation of even basic needs: health, education, jobs, insurance etc etc.
AMERICA IS OVER.....DENIAL WILL NOT MAKE IT BETTER.
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I'll still be on Lily Pond Lane in East Hampton NY. There isn't any rations here!
how can a chef afford that?
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We're not expandering incase you hadn't noticed. Not exactly like government spending stimulating the economy or anything.
Quote some well know economist and not something vague out of Time Magazine.
No.
"Some well known economist" will not pull my fat out of the fire
why should I quote one...to make myself feel smarter?
I said I quoted out of Time Mag
I tend to go on what I know, which has served me very well, for nearly 20 years in the stock market, and thru worse shit than this
whatever "this" is.
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You possess all the arrogance expected of a good ole american...DENY EVERYTHING...Dream on...
I am not giving you MY expected scenario of what is to come...I am telling you what the financial forecasters have been saying for a while now. America is too many TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEBT to come out of this...NO NATION COULD COME OUT OF THIS FINANCIAL MESS.
Thanks to the greedy bastards that run america, the homosexual president, the cheney/halliburton financial waste connection, corporate greed/swindling...that everyone has to take the BLAME...AND NO ONE WILL BE UNSCATHED. Pay attention to the financial markets, listen to the remarks by everyone from Bernanke to Paulson to investment brokers etc... they are all saying the same thing...AMERICA IS IN DEEP TROUBLE, WITH NO WAY OUT. You can not have 77 TRILLION dollars floating around the world with nothing backing it, you can not borrow 100 BILLION PER MONTH FROM CHINA and claim yourself the richest nation on the planet, you can not have spent 3 TRILLION already on the so called war on terror (HAHAHAH) and not find yourself in financial ruin, you can not spend 1 TRILLION every year on bases around the world and domestically deprive the nation of even basic needs: health, education, jobs, insurance etc etc.
AMERICA IS OVER.....DENIAL WILL NOT MAKE IT BETTER.
I was wrong.
Not 6th to 8th grade education
1st to 4th, this post proves it
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A property near me initially listed for over $3.5M in 2006. By early 2007, when construction was complete, the list price was down to $3.1M. It's currently listed at $2.5M and although lots of people have looked at it because it's 'pretty', they haven't gotten a single offer.
Although the builder still owns this one, some of the would-be neighbors in the area have had their properties foreclosed on before the homesites have even been prepared.
They're trying to hold onto these overpriced showpieces, but I'd be surprised if anyone paid more than $1.5M for this one.
An owner-occupied home a few blocks away that was priced at $1.6M back in January is now down to $800,000. Compared to the original asking price, that's a good number, but based on where things are at right now, that one might be worth $600,000 today.
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No.
"Some well known economist" will not pull my fat out of the fire
why should I quote one...to make myself feel smarter?
I said I quoted out of Time Mag
I tend to go on what I know, which has served me very well, for nearly 20 years in the stock market, and thru worse shit than this
whatever "this" is.
I'm not enoucraging the dooms days nonsense. I am merely pointing out that things aren't so bright, so naturally we ought to panick somewhat. Everything bad has the potential to worsen with time and since there haven't been any bright spots for a year or so you can't blame people for being worried.
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I'm not enoucraging the dooms days nonsense. I am merely pointing out that things aren't so bright, so naturally we ought to panick somewhat. Everything bad has the potential to worsen with time and since there haven't been any bright spots for a year or so you can't blame people for being worried.
Never panic
the key is to stay calm
I don't blame 'em
but
worrying never helps!
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johnny vegas sent me a pm about wanting to blow me for free what a nice guy he is. But i will have to decline johnny sorry im not gay and will not ever be
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johnny vegas sent me a pm about wanting to blow me for free what a nice guy he is. But i will have to decline johnny sorry im not gay and will not ever be
Hi Squad!
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I don't how you do or bother to try and get up every day.
BECAUSE LIFE GOES ON (NOT AMERICA) DESPITE WHAT MAY COME..
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I was wrong.
Not 6th to 8th grade education
1st to 4th, this post proves it
140 IQ BABY DON'T HATE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND AND THEREFORE CAN'T GRASP THE REALITY OF WHAT IS...
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140 IQ BABY DON'T HATE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND AND THEREFORE CAN'T GRASP THE REALITY OF WHAT IS...
you suck, my iq is 187. ::)
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140 IQ BABY DON'T HATE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND AND THEREFORE CAN'T GRASP THE REALITY OF WHAT IS...
Hey Mr. IQ 140...take the "caps" button off!
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you suck, my iq is 187. ::)
1+8+7 = 16 IQ...
CHECK YOUR MATH...
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Hi Squad!
squad lol dumbfuck
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1+8+7 = 16 IQ...
CHECK YOUR MATH...
MY math is fine
Its your so-called, thrid world math that needs the reworking, boy.
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HAHHA...DON'T GET UP TIGHT MOOOSEYBOY, AS SOON AS THE ECONOMY TANKS (WHICH WILL BE SOON) YOU WILL HAVE EVERYONE FROM THE MILITARY TO UN PEACE KEEPERS ON U.S. SOIL ROOTING OUT EVERY SCUM SUCKING LOWLIFE. AMERICA WILL BE HANDED OVER TO THE RUSSIANS, CHINESE, EUROPEANS AND ARABS WHO OWN THE WHOLE GOD DAMN PLACE ANYWAY. WITH SAUDIA ARABIA HAVING INVESTED 4 TRILLION DOLLARS IN AMERICA DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GONNA JUST SIT THERE AND WATCH THEIR MONEY DISAPPEAR??? HELL NO...THEY ARE COMING TO CLAIM WHAT THEY HAVE INVESTED IN. DO YOU THINK THE CHINESE ARE GOING TO WATCH THEIR TRILLIONS BLOW AWAY LIKE DUST...THEY ARE COMING TO CLAIM WHAT IS THEIRS...THE EUROS WHO CAN'T STAND WHITES IN AMERICA ANYWAY ARE COMING TO CLAIM THEIRS AND WILL HAVE WHITES IN FEMA CAMPS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT A PROBLEM YOU ARE AND THE RUSKIES ARE COMING TO CLAIM THEIRS. WHOLE AREAS WILL COME UNDER CONTROL OF FOREIGN NATIONS AND THEY WILL SET POLICY AND LAW AND UNLIKE AMERICA MILITARY AND COPS, THESE PEOPLE WILL HAVE NO AFFINITY FOR YOU AND WILL SHOOT ON DEMAND AND AT WILL.
YOU CAN FORGET YOUR SO CALLED MILITARY IN AMERICA...WITH NO MONEY, AND OIL CUT OFF AND MASSIVE DEBT AMERICA WILL HAVE NO POWER BUT TO SIT AND WATCH ITSELF TAKEN OVER AND TAKEN APART. FOR THE IDIOT WHO THINK THAT BECAUSE THEIR HOME IS PAID FOR OR BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN FAGVILLE HAMPTONS YOU WILL BE THE FIRST ONE THEY COME AFTER...SEIZING YOUR ASSETS, MONEY ETC FOR TEH SAKE OF AMERICA'S DEBT. DON'T GET COMFORTABLE IN YOUR HOME...IT WON'T BE YOURS FOR LONG. ALSO DO YOU THINK YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL SIT IDLY BY IN POVERTY AND WANT WHILE YOU SIT IN YOUR HOUSE AND EAT WELL??? HAHAH YO DON'T UNDERSTAND HUMAN PSYCHE AT ALL...YOUR LONG STANDING NEIGHBORS WILL BE THE FIRST TO ATTACK YOU FOR MONEY AND FOOD AND SHELTER....
The American experiment may be winding down but it won't go out the way you say...Just way to many ego's that would let something like that to ever happen(plus everything has been pre/planned for like 1/2 a century anyway)...What will probably happen is a suit Nuke goes off in a major city(by our own government of course) and then everything gets shut down...All assets frozen and the FIMA camps will be filled up with looters...A phoney world war will follow and in the end, a one world government will stand...
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America is the greatest nation on Earth. I dare any fucking socialist, eurofag scumfuck to say otherwise to my face. I will beat them to death and then fuck them
I'm French, and I think the U.S is a country of provincial, prejudiced, religious fanatic mental midgets. The only reason why your country became rich is due to a small international elite - most engineers and scientists in your country are from India, China and Eastern Europe, and most PhDs doing work in your country are foreigner as well - that keeps your country going, and because you have been blessed with so many natural resources and territory. Lets see if you would be affluent if you had the climate of Norway, or a territory the size of Japan with as little agricultural and natural resources.
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I'm French, and I think the U.S is a country of provincial, prejudiced, religious fanatic mental midgets. The only reason why your country became rich is due to a small international elite - most engineers and scientists in your country are from India, China and Eastern Europe, and most PhDs doing work in your country are foreigner as well - that keeps your country going, and because you have been blessed with so many natural resources and territory. Lets see if you would be affluent if you had the climate of Norway, or a territory the size of Japan with as little agricultural and natural resources.
He, he - sad but true.
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I'm French, and I think the U.S is a country of provincial, prejudiced, religious fanatic mental midgets. The only reason why your country became rich is due to a small international elite - most engineers and scientists in your country are from India, China and Eastern Europe, and most PhDs doing work in your country are foreigner as well - that keeps your country going, and because you have been blessed with so many natural resources and territory. Lets see if you would be affluent if you had the climate of Norway, or a territory the size of Japan with as little agricultural and natural resources.
And if it were not for us, you'd be speaking German, smelly bastard.
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140 IQ BABY DON'T HATE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND AND THEREFORE CAN'T GRASP THE REALITY OF WHAT IS...
That was a scale not an IQ test ;D
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140 IQ BABY DON'T HATE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND AND THEREFORE CAN'T GRASP THE REALITY OF WHAT IS...
1: You are a confirmed liar, and you don't come near that number. You are probably just average.
2: Even if your lie was true, don't think a 140 IQ = something to brag about.
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2: Even if your lie was true, don't think a 140 IQ = something to brag about.
Well, it's high enough to get you into Harvard or Yale. But then, considering that George W Bush is a Yale graduate and became president of the U.S, I think that proves that I.Q is overrated for achieving success in life
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Well, it's high enough to get you into Harvard or Yale. But then, considering that George W Bush is a Yale graduate and became president of the U.S, I think that proves that I.Q is overrated for achieving success in life
Statistically speaking you are correct if you take the correlation between IQ and SAT scores into concideration.
IQs effectiveness in predicting the different sub criteria of success is better suited for populations rather than individuals.
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And if it were not for us, you'd be speaking German, smelly bastard.
Another myth perpetrated by your media and film industry. In reality, the Wehrmacht was taking a severe beating from the Red Army, and after the battle of Stalingrad in 1943, it was only a matter of time before the Third Reich succumbed to the Soviets. Your country entered the war in July of 1944, when Germany was already on it's knees. The bottom line is that if the U.S hadn't "liberated" France, it would still be liberated anyway. Now I want to see you shout in a typical redneck hillbilly American accent:
"You Frenchies are a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkies!" :-X
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Statistically speaking you are correct if you take the correlation between IQ and SAT scores into concideration.
IQs effectiveness in predicting the different sub criteria of success is better suited for populations rather than individuals.
Statistics seldom correlate with anything outside the abstract domain of mathematics. And a high I.Q is irrelevant since an extremely high I.Q is only necessary for logical deduction of new derivations in abstract symbolic systems - be they mathematics, theoretical physics or sequential computing -, and is not needed for solving 99.9999999%+ of the problems we find in the real World, for which working with the symbolic systems created by the small elite of geniuses suffices. A man wiith an I.Q of 120 is far more likely to become CEO of a corporation than a genius with an I.Q of 160.
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Another myth perpetrated by your media and film industry. In reality, the Wehrmacht was taking a severe beating from the Red Army, and after the battle of Stalingrad in 1943, it was only a matter of time before the Third Reich succumbed to the Soviets. Your country entered the war in July of 1944, when Germany was already on it's knees. The bottom line is that if the U.S hadn't "liberated" France, it would still be liberated anyway. Now I want to see you shout in a typical redneck hillbilly American accent:
"You Frenchies are a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkies!" :-X
Not true.
If Hitler didn't have to fight a War on 2 fronts, you would be speaking Germen right now. Americans liberated your country. The Soviet Union would have fallen.
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Not true.
If Hitler didn't have to fight a War on 2 fronts, you would be speaking Germen right now. Americans liberated your country. The Soviet Union would have fallen.
You show a poor comprehension of history, but it is not surprising given your nationality. There is no question that the Third Reich would have crumbled under the Soviets anyway if your country never entered the war. 65% of German war casualties happened on the Eastern front. The greatest loss of German troops happened in Stalingrad from Spetember of 1943 to February of 1944, when 1,000,000 German soldiers perished. Your country entered the war in July of 1944, when the Red Army was already insde Poland. France wouldn't be speaking German, because there is no way that the Germans would have won the war, with or sans the U.S. And by the way, I would much rather be a part of the Third Reich than of an infantilized, lobotomized, fast food eating, heavy metal listening Americanized World like that of today. Despite his moral decrepitude and bad taste in women, at least Hitler had some ideals in life besides making money like Americans.
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i was wonedering how everyone feels about on protein
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240, deeds on our national parks? i'd like to see some PDF's of this.
If China (or anyone else) wants their "debt", let them come and get it.
1. They won't ever see a penny
2. We'd gladly pay them back in negroes.
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You show a poor comprehension of history, but it is not surprising given your nationality. There is no question that the Third Reich would have crumbled under the Soviets anyway if your country never entered the war. 65% of German war casualties happened on the Eastern front. The greatest loss of German troops happened in Stalingrad from Spetember of 1943 to February of 1944, when 1,000,000 German soldiers perished. Your country entered the war in July of 1944, when the Red Army was already insde Poland. France wouldn't be speaking German, because there is no way that the Germans would have won the war, with or sans the U.S. And by the way, I would much rather be a part of the Third Reich than of an infantilized, lobotomized, fast food eating, heavy metal listening Americanized World like that of today. Despite his moral decrepitude and bad taste in women, at least Hitler had some ideals in life besides making money like Americans.
If you ever came to my neighborhood, I'd smack you silly.
And with only one arm and a bad heart, Frere Jaques
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sorry im not gay and will not ever be
your avatar proves otherwise.