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Title: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: MattT on July 24, 2008, 02:17:54 PM
This is crazy, McCain must have shed a few tears when he saw the footage of this!
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: affy on July 24, 2008, 02:19:11 PM
In before Moosejay and Coach
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Zaphod on July 24, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
This is crazy, McCain must have shed a few tears when he saw the footage of this!

I wonder how may of them will bother to vote in November?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on July 24, 2008, 02:26:04 PM
haha HH6, coach and beach bum are clenching their teeth and stomping their feet in anger as we speak.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: MattT on July 24, 2008, 02:33:14 PM
I wonder how may of them will bother to vote in November?

doesnt matter, America needs to repair its image around the world. And Obama will repair it, McCain will just make it worse, but if thats what you want then vote for McSame.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:36:20 PM
Obama

Obama

Obamababymama

 ;)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:37:09 PM
doesnt matter, America needs to repair its image around the world. And Obama will repair it, McCain will just make it worse, but if thats what you want then vote for McSame.

Keep working on those legs and lower lats and keep your nose out of our business! ;D
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: MattT on July 24, 2008, 02:41:17 PM
Keep working on those legs and lower lats and keep your nose out of our business! ;D

ok :D
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: The Master on July 24, 2008, 02:42:24 PM
ok :D


Your body looks good, but your IQ is probably close to retard levels.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on July 24, 2008, 02:44:14 PM
that is a muscular black man.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:44:24 PM
ok :D

You look good

Like I said

Lower lats
Leg separation
Overal myo separation

You know this
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 02:45:36 PM
I wonder how may of them will bother to vote in November?

LOL!


Amazing though.  if he doesn't win in November, he's got something magic to use worldwide.

As it is, he leads in polls in 5 states that Bush won.  Mccain either has to win all of them back, or steal 5 dem states.  Smart money is on Obama, barring any late collapse.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:45:49 PM
doesnt matter, America needs to repair its image around the world. And Obama will repair it, McCain will just make it worse, but if thats what you want then vote for McSame.

The islamic fundamentalists are hoping you are right, tovarisch
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:46:42 PM
In before Moosejay and Coach

what does that mean?

I could not see anything
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:47:36 PM
LOL!


Amazing though.  if he doesn't win in November, he's got something magic to use worldwide.

As it is, he leads in polls in 5 states that Bush won.  Mccain either has to win all of them back, or steal 5 dem states.  Smart money is on Obama, barring any late collapse.

There is much time to go.

Just keep watching
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 20inch calves on July 24, 2008, 02:49:39 PM
who cares ::)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:50:32 PM
who cares ::)

Great Americans do.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: The Coach on July 24, 2008, 02:50:38 PM
Thats great news.....if he was running in another country. On the home front it did nothing for him and a matter of fact it brought McCain closer in the polls. I'm sorry Matt, you were saying?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Zaphod on July 24, 2008, 02:51:48 PM

None, since Europeans can't vote in American elections.  Why the fuck is he campaigning in Europe anyway?  Oh that's right,,, he plans on kowtowing to international "organizations" and giving up America's soverignty to whatever the hell Europe wants.

I still can't believe people are actually planning on voting for this far-left wingnut.  Just because Bush sucks, that's no reason to jump off a cliff with this bozo.

 ;)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:53:22 PM

None, since Europeans can't vote in American elections.  Why the fuck is he campaigning in Europe anyway?  Oh that's right,,, he plans on kowtowing to international "organizations" and giving up America's soverignty to whatever the hell Europe wants.

I still can't believe people are actually planning on voting for this far-left wingnut.  Just because Bush sucks, that's no reason to jump off a cliff with this bozo.

Watch.

They won't.

They will 'jettison that cargo', like the over 40 Hillary women will.

Just watch.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:54:07 PM
Thats great news.....if he was running in another country. On the home front it did nothing for him and a matter of fact it brought McCain closer in the polls. I'm sorry Matt, you were saying?

He was saying that his physique is complete, altho in a few words.  ;D
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: MattT on July 24, 2008, 02:55:45 PM
Thats great news.....if he was running in another country. On the home front it did nothing for him and a matter of fact it brought McCain closer in the polls. I'm sorry Matt, you were saying?

No those polls were taken before this Berlin speech, so watch the polls to widen in Obamas favor tomorrow.  Americans will see how much people around the world like Obama vs McSame.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 02:56:32 PM
Thats great news.....if he was running in another country. On the home front it did nothing for him and a matter of fact it brought McCain closer in the polls. I'm sorry Matt, you were saying?

Be careful which polls you read.

Also - nationwide polls don't mean much.  Obama is leading in 5 states that Bush won.  Mccain is leading in 1 state that Kerry won.  Unless mccain can find a way to steal 4 states from Obama, he cannot technically win.  State by state polls are how this election will be won.  Right now, Obama leads 296 to 172 electoral votes, with 69 still undecided.  Even if Mccain won ALL the close states, he'd still lose the overall by 50 electoral votes.

Mathematically, Mccain needs a miracle to win this.  


BTW - FOX news polls exclude barr and nader, who consistetly take away 7% from mccain.  Mccain drops from 44 to 38% when those two men are available options.  
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 02:57:01 PM
No those polls were taken before this Berlin speech, so watch the polls to widen in Obamas favor tomorrow.  Americans will see how much people around the world like Obama vs McSame.

Again, exqueeze me, does not matter what the unwashed euros think.

They hate us, we hate them.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: candidizzle on July 24, 2008, 03:01:18 PM
Mathematically, McCain needs a miracle to win this.  

McCain refuses to recognize mathematics as legitimate way of looking at things.

Statistics are a liberal media tool of manipulating the masses ;D
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 03:04:06 PM
McCain refuses to recognize mathematics as legitimate way of looking at things.

Obama leads in a lot of Bush states.  Mccainis tied in national polls because some states love him by 70%+... you know, the same folks that shamelessly told CNN cameras that "I ain't voting for no black dude!"  nation polls mean nothing.  Mccain is up by 20 points in the Utah/Wyoming/Idaho belt - that sways the nationwide counts. Mccain can have 51% of the national vote and still lose the electoral vote by 40.

Here are the cold hard facts:
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 03:06:06 PM
Obama leads in a lot of Bush states.  Mccainis tied in national polls because some states love him by 70%+... you know, the same folks that shamelessly told CNN cameras that "I ain't voting for no black dude!"  nation polls mean nothing.  Mccain can have 51% of the national vote and still lose the electoral vote by 40.

Here are the cold hard facts:


I don't care whaty many peoplke say publicly.....the above waxes in truth...most won't get past this, unfortunatley, and a white man willl be in the oval offic e
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: candidizzle on July 24, 2008, 03:06:41 PM
Obama leads in a lot of Bush states.  Mccainis tied in national polls because some states love him by 70%+... you know, the same folks that shamelessly told CNN cameras that "I ain't voting for no black dude!"  nation polls mean nothing.  Mccain is up by 20 points in the Utah/Wyoming/Idaho belt - that sways the nationwide counts. Mccain can have 51% of the national vote and still lose the electoral vote by 40.

Here are the cold hard facts:

damnit 240 have a sense of humor, that was a joke..      you take politics way too seriously bro.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 03:09:09 PM
I don't care whaty many peoplke say publicly.....the above waxes in truth...most won't get past this, unfortunatley, and a white man willl be in the oval offic e

Moose, much of what you say about the economy is based in your emotion, and not the cold hard facts of the economic reality of the world financial system.

I'm starting to hear your election opinions, and it sounds like you're doing the same thing here.  You "feel" that people are lying to pollsters?  You "feel" they're telling strangers on the phone (and turning out in higher numbers, and donating much more $) because they're trying to "fool" the pollsters into thinking they like Obama?


Look, if only polls were skewed, I'd give your argument some merit.  however, since polls, audience turnout, and donations all tend to lean *strongly* to Obama, I have to ask... are you viewing this with emotion, not logic?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 03:10:24 PM
damnit 240 have a sense of humor, that was a joke..      you take politics way too seriously bro.

lol i know man... you know the political system well.  you just gave me an in to babble some more and deliver a chart which more clearly defined my point as to why obama needs a major collapse to lose it right now, even thought state-by-states aren't even close right now.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 03:11:01 PM
Moose, much of what you say about the economy is based in your emotion, and not the cold hard facts of the economic reality of the world financial system.

I'm starting to hear your election opinions, and it sounds like you're doing the same thing here.  You "feel" that people are lying to pollsters?  You "feel" they're telling strangers on the phone (and turning out in higher numbers, and donating much more $) because they're trying to "fool" the pollsters into thinking they like Obama?


Look, if only polls were skewed, I'd give your argument some merit.  however, since polls, audience turnout, and donations all tend to lean *strongly* to Obama, I have to ask... are you viewing this with emotion, not logic?

being a nearly 20 yr investor, I know the diff btw logic and fear and greed and all that.

You ans I can only go on feelings, lest you think the 'powqers that be' actually let you know what is going opn
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 03:12:52 PM
being a nearly 20 yr investor, I know the diff btw logic and fear and greed and all that.
You ans I can only go on feelings, lest you think the 'powqers that be' actually let you know what is going opn

I see.  You've taken the conversation on polls and made it about emotional experience and the grand conspiracy in which all is a lie. 

You're dabbling in the opiates, aren't ya?  ;)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: The Luke on July 24, 2008, 03:13:07 PM
Look, if only polls were skewed, I'd give your argument some merit.  however, since polls, audience turnout, and donations all tend to lean *strongly* to Obama, I have to ask... are you viewing this with emotion, not logic?

...Coach isn't capable of logic. He's a fundamentalist Christian who votes Republican.


The Luke
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: candidizzle on July 24, 2008, 03:13:41 PM
lol i know man... you know the political system well.  you just gave me an in to babble some more and deliver a chart which more clearly defined my point as to why obama needs a major collapse to lose it right now, even thought state-by-states aren't even close right now.
thanks for the compliment dude.  i realized a while ago that there isnt much point in paying attention to politics or even having a opinion, not unless your planning on running for office.  
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: MattT on July 24, 2008, 03:13:59 PM
Obama leads in a lot of Bush states.  Mccainis tied in national polls because some states love him by 70%+... you know, the same folks that shamelessly told CNN cameras that "I ain't voting for no black dude!"  nation polls mean nothing.  Mccain is up by 20 points in the Utah/Wyoming/Idaho belt - that sways the nationwide counts. Mccain can have 51% of the national vote and still lose the electoral vote by 40.

Here are the cold hard facts:


I will call it now, in 2 months time Obama will be 15 points ahead of McCain in the national polls.  He just needs to spend more time in the base states like MI, OH, and PA.  He did his thing over seas, now he has to come back home and seal the deal with Americans.  Also i have the strange feeling McCain is going to have some medical issues come up, which may lead him to be hospitalized!  He's old he cant keep this pace up every damn day, its going to catch up to him sooner or later.  
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Zaphod on July 24, 2008, 03:14:44 PM
Obama leads in a lot of Bush states.  Mccainis tied in national polls because some states love him by 70%+... you know, the same folks that shamelessly told CNN cameras that "I ain't voting for no black dude!"  nation polls mean nothing.  Mccain is up by 20 points in the Utah/Wyoming/Idaho belt - that sways the nationwide counts. Mccain can have 51% of the national vote and still lose the electoral vote by 40.

Here are the cold hard facts:


I agree that Obamma will probably win, but it aint November yet. Look at Kerry, look at Dukakis, they were flying high in the summer only to fizzle our when the cold hard reality of fall sets in.

Gas prices might be a factor.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Benny B on July 24, 2008, 03:16:38 PM

None, since Europeans can't vote in American elections.  Why the fuck is he campaigning in Europe anyway?  Oh that's right,,, he plans on kowtowing to international "organizations" and giving up America's soverignty to whatever the hell Europe wants.

I still can't believe people are actually planning on voting for this far-left wingnut.  Just because Bush sucks, that's no reason to jump off a cliff with this bozo.
Somebody call the waaambulance for Goatboy!  :'(

You can do the world a favor and move back to Germany with your more enlightened ancestors...or after Obama is inaugurated you can just slit your throat.  :D
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: candidizzle on July 24, 2008, 03:16:46 PM
Gas prices might be a factor.
think about this..

who controls the price of gas?
who controls those people?
who does that person want to win the election?
what are the chances of gas staying as profiteable as it is now with obama in office?
wha are the chances of gas staying as profiteable as it is now with mccain in office?
how does the price of gas come next nevember effect the outcome of the election?



make your own conclusion.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Zaphod on July 24, 2008, 03:24:06 PM
think about this..

who controls the price of gas?
who controls those people?
who does that person want to win the election?
what are the chances of gas staying as profiteable as it is now with obama in office?
wha are the chances of gas staying as profiteable as it is now with mccain in office?
how does the price of gas come next nevember effect the outcome of the election?



make your own conclusion.

We'll see if either party can gain traction in regards to their stance on the issue. If gas prices continue to fall it's not important. If it rebounds it and goes up it will be THE issue of the campaign.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: candidizzle on July 24, 2008, 03:25:45 PM
We'll see if either party can gain traction in regards to their stance on the issue. If gas prices continue to fall it's not important. If it rebounds it and goes up it will be THE issue of the campaign.
refer to question 1-3.  :D
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 03:35:59 PM
We'll see if either party can gain traction in regards to their stance on the issue. If gas prices continue to fall it's not important. If it rebounds it and goes up it will be THE issue of the campaign.

Gas $3.25

Oil 50$ to 70$ per barrel by December

Obama

Obama

Obamababymama
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 24, 2008, 03:40:44 PM
i'm not much for politics, but is there some way we can have a split vote, where the obama people can move out of the country somewhere and start their own, and have whoever voted for mccain stay or vice versa?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 03:42:08 PM
Oil 50$ to 70$ per barrel by December

Are you a gambling man, Ducey?  ;)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Benny B on July 24, 2008, 03:43:49 PM
Gas $3.25

Oil 50$ to 70$ per barrel by December

Obama

Obama

Obamababymama
Good luck with that!  ::)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 03:46:25 PM
Are you a gambling man, Ducey?  ;)

Lost 100 bucks at Foxwoods today

Just parroting Jim Cramer from Mad Money

Smart guy

worth a few hundred mill ;)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 24, 2008, 03:46:39 PM
Are you a gambling man, Ducey?  ;)

let's not talk shit.  Roberto, why do you think it'll go up, down, or stay around the same?  Moosegay?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 03:49:04 PM
let's not talk shit.  Roberto, why do you think it'll go up, down, or stay around the same?  Moosegay?

It'll come down.  But $50 to $70, as he stated, isn't something we'll see again.

Cramer is smart... smart enough to know he influences the market.  His advice to everyone is "buy buy buy.. .things will be great soon!"  It's the same advice he gave when people got into this housing mess.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 03:49:20 PM
let's not talk shit.  Roberto, why do you think it'll go up, down, or stay around the same?  Moosegay?

see my previous post
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 03:50:27 PM
It'll come down.  But $50 to $70, as he stated, isn't something we'll see again.

Cramer is smart... smart enough to know he influences the market.  His advice to everyone is "buy buy buy.. .things will be great soon!"  It's the same advice he gave when people got into this housing mess.

Just like the lib media scares shit out of the nonthinkers that things are calamatous

MMMMMM....I'd have to defer to Cramer.

I am sure you understand
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: candidizzle on July 24, 2008, 03:50:48 PM
i let you guys know how its going to go down already. put your money on it. the whole house , your retirment funds, and the kids college money too. hell, if you can find a booky to allow it, put your nutz on the line as well.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Zaphod on July 24, 2008, 04:09:07 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: CigaretteMan on July 24, 2008, 04:09:58 PM
  Obama will destroy what is left of the U.S. There are innumerable candidates who are more qualified than him to be president. The only reason why the media is promoting him so heavily is because he is black. That is basically it. McCain has done 10 times the amount of public service that Obama has, and he deserves the presidency far more given that he actually fought in war defending his country while risking his life. White people are the stupidest people on Earth. They are the only race of people who cheerfully and willingly gives power to the enemy. Can you imagine a white man being elected for president in Nigeria or Zaire?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 04:18:19 PM
Just like the lib media scares shit out of the nonthinkers that things are calamatous

MMMMMM....I'd have to defer to Cramer.

I am sure you understand

Okay.  So you honestly believe oil will be UNDER $70 by Christmas, Moosejay?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 04:20:17 PM
 Obama will destroy what is left of the U.S. There are innumerable candidates who are more qualified than him to be president. The only reason why the media is promoting him so heavily is because he is black. That is basically it. McCain has done 10 times the amount of public service that Obama has, and he deserves the presidency far more given that he actually fought in war defending his country while risking his life. White people are the stupidest people on Earth. They are the only race of people who cheerfully and willingly gives power to the enemy. Can you imagine a white man being elected for president in Nigeria or Zaire?

Trust me.

Obama will not win.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 04:21:32 PM
Okay.  So you honestly believe oil will be UNDER $70 by Christmas, Moosejay?

well, as you know, I am a chiropractor.

That is my area of expertise.

I have a financial planner.

He tells me what to do, and, with discretion, I usually listen.

Thus, someone as expert as Cramer...yeah, I'd say below 70 by xmas!

Hoo ha
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Zaphod on July 24, 2008, 04:21:38 PM
Trust me.

Obama will not win.

Huh? If oil is $70 a barrel how could he NOT win?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 24, 2008, 04:21:49 PM
 Obama will destroy what is left of the U.S. There are innumerable candidates who are more qualified than him to be president. The only reason why the media is promoting him so heavily is because he is black. That is basically it. McCain has done 10 times the amount of public service that Obama has, and he deserves the presidency far more given that he actually fought in war defending his country while risking his life. White people are the stupidest people on Earth. They are the only race of people who cheerfully and willingly gives power to the enemy. Can you imagine a white man being elected for president in Nigeria or Zaire?

Why don't you use your original handle, suckymuscle?

And it's not what McCain has done but what he plans to do. Had he chosen not be more of the same, then he'd be leading the polls. This nation just doesn't want more countless spending on wars that do nothing but put Americans more at risk of attack.

He didn't defend his country you fucking dolt. At what point in time where we ever threatened by Vietnam?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 04:22:06 PM
Huh? If oil is $70 a barrel how could he NOT win?

BC it certainly will not bc of him.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 24, 2008, 04:25:50 PM
One of the largest mortgage companies just tanked. And Lehman brothers will probably go the same.

Funny how Moose acts as though we're in an economic boom

And oil slashed in half by christmas! When world demand is going up everyday with the expansion of India and China!  ::)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 04:26:15 PM
Why don't you use your original handle, suckymuscle?

And it's not what McCain has done but what he plans to do. Had he chosen not be more of the same, then he'd be leading the polls. This nation just doesn't want more countless spending on wars that do nothing but put Americans more at risk of attack.

He didn't defend his country you fucking dolt. At what point in time where we ever threatened by Vietnam?

we have not been attacked since 911

believe me

obama in

the Islamists will be dancing around the trippi fountains of italy
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 24, 2008, 04:27:20 PM
Thanks to what Bush and cronies have done we'll be in danger until we decide to tear down every base in the mideast and get the hell out of Iraq
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Moosejay on July 24, 2008, 04:29:05 PM
Thanks to what Bush and cronies have done we'll be in danger until we decide to tear down every base in the mideast and get the hell out of Iraq

see my above post
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Tesla on July 24, 2008, 04:36:55 PM
I can't believe some of the crap in Obama's speech from today..

"This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably"
"Will we welcome immigrants from different lands?"
"The genocide in Darfur shames the conscience of us all"


I can't believe how readily people are eating this crap up.  Nauseating.  
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 24, 2008, 04:49:28 PM
doesnt matter, America needs to repair its image around the world. And Obama will repair it, McCain will just make it worse, but if thats what you want then vote for McSame.
I agree if another terriost strikes united states again this time we shall give them money instead of going to war with them its cheaper that way actually.  Bin laden (osamas brother) shall donate 1 gazzillion dollars after they fly another plane to the white house.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 24, 2008, 06:39:32 PM
I will call it now, in 2 months time Obama will be 15 points ahead of McCain in the national polls.  He just needs to spend more time in the base states like MI, OH, and PA.  He did his thing over seas, now he has to come back home and seal the deal with Americans.  Also i have the strange feeling McCain is going to have some medical issues come up, which may lead him to be hospitalized!  He's old he cant keep this pace up every damn day, its going to catch up to him sooner or later.  
chipmunk is cracking up :)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Benny B on July 24, 2008, 07:06:25 PM
Trust me.

Obama will not win.
I don't trust you. You are a moron, so thanks anyway.  ;)

Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Tesla on July 24, 2008, 07:47:18 PM
For all the Obama hype he's polling no better than McCain.  The margin of error on today's Gallup poll is +- 2 percentage points, Obama 45% vs. McCain 43% so they're essentially even. 



Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Zaphod on July 24, 2008, 07:51:16 PM
For all the Obama hype he's polling no better than McCain.  The margin of error on today's Gallup poll is +- 2 percentage points, Obama 45% vs. McCain 43% so they're essentially even. 





God help us, there will be re-counts and riots.  :-\
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 07:52:47 PM
For all the Obama hype he's polling no better than McCain.  The margin of error on today's Gallup poll is +- 2 percentage points, Obama 45% vs. McCain 43% so they're essentially even. 

again, national polls DO NOT MATTER.

I mean, Gore WON the national poll, right?  More popular votes?

By electoral vote polling, here is how they rank today:
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Tesla on July 24, 2008, 07:58:14 PM
God help us, there will be re-counts and riots.  :-\

Think Detroit, 1967      :-\

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Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Tesla on July 24, 2008, 08:00:39 PM
again, national polls DO NOT MATTER.

I mean, Gore WON the national poll, right?  More popular votes?

By electoral vote polling, here is how they rank today:


You're correct, and I would argue that any polls do not matter much at this point.  I'm just making the observation that for all you hear about Obama he does not have overwheming support. 
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 24, 2008, 08:04:05 PM
You're correct, and I would argue that any polls do not much much at this point.  I'm just making the observation that for all you hear about Obama he does not have overwheming support. 

I agree polls don't matter much.

I'm just taken aback by just how many states, that Bush won handily in 2004, that Obama is leading by 3, 5 or 7 points in.  How can so many Bush voters choose Obama at this point?  Are there that many disgusted repubs?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: wes mantooth on July 24, 2008, 08:14:18 PM
 Obama will destroy what is left of the U.S. There are innumerable candidates who are more qualified than him to be president. The only reason why the media is promoting him so heavily is because he is black. That is basically it. McCain has done 10 times the amount of public service that Obama has, and he deserves the presidency far more given that he actually fought in war defending his country while risking his life. White people are the stupidest people on Earth. They are the only race of people who cheerfully and willingly gives power to the enemy. Can you imagine a white man being elected for president in Nigeria or Zaire?

this one is good!!!

so now the black man is the enemy? or is it that obama is a "secret muslim" sent here to infiltrate. mccain as a man..of course. great american...war hero, a true patriot. unfortunetly that doesnt EARN you a right into office. neither does being "involved" in politics for 40 years. if that were the case....strom thurman would of been president a couple times!!!!!! mother fucker was 300years old!

im not an obama maniac.....and not really a mccain supporter.....but from either side of the fence, people who think like you are whats wrong with this country. people like you will destroy whats left of this country.....not obama
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: wes mantooth on July 24, 2008, 08:18:05 PM
we have not been attacked since 911

believe me

obama in

the Islamists will be dancing around the trippi fountains of italy

we have not been attacked on AMERICAN soil.....because were sending americans by the thousands to suck on road side bombs. were just helping extremists save more money! no need for terror cells in the US, just come to iraq and grab up and AK, a cellphone, and an old bomb. BOOM!!! americasn still die....just not here
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: tommywishbone on July 24, 2008, 08:18:09 PM
They don't see Cadillac driving pimps in Germany too often. It must have been a real treat for the locals.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 24, 2008, 08:19:13 PM
i voted for kerry in 2004.

i was just out of college, and everyone my age voted for him.

4 years later, that i have a job and property and "investments" that in America, I will not vote for Obama .

As for oil, the "china and india" demand have nothing to do with it.  most of the time during the year, the refineries are running at less than 80% capacity.  the price of crude went up due to heavy inflow of cash into commodities due to the shitty performance of the general stock market.  notice oil drops a ton every time a company puts out an earnings report that comes at least somewhat close to street estimates.

as for cramer, if you look him up on wikipedia, as goatboy stated, you'll see his many fuckups.  also, he's never reported his earnings to the SEC because hedge funds are exempt from reporting earnings, so his "few million" for all we know is a "few negative million" as hedge funds tend to do.

and lastly, an idiot like mattT who thinks Dubai's in india is supporting Obama is an endorsement enough for me to vote McCain.

A change we can believe in?  Come on, he's offered nothing but bending over to shit ass countries we can nuke overnight.

Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: tommywishbone on July 24, 2008, 08:20:39 PM
Great Americans do.

Elvis is dead, Charlie's still in prison, and Ric Flair is too busy stylin' & profylin' to care.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 24, 2008, 08:21:25 PM
we have not been attacked on AMERICAN soil.....because were sending americans by the thousands to suck on road side bombs. were just helping extremists save more money! no need for terror cells in the US, just come to iraq and grab up and AK, a cellphone, and an old bomb. BOOM!!! americasn still die....just not here

they volunteer to die for America.  When soldiers start having a problem with dying, i'll start having a problem with them dying.

"If Hillary Clinton wins, I'm gonna be pretty pissed off, cuz I won't have anyone to kill anymore, that bitch will put me out of a job" - some soldier who called into Dennis Miller's show a couple months ago.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: wes mantooth on July 24, 2008, 08:22:00 PM
and Ric Flair is too busy stylin' & profylin' to care.


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: wes mantooth on July 24, 2008, 08:24:36 PM
they volunteer to die for America.  When soldiers start having a problem with dying, i'll start having a problem with them dying.

"If Hillary Clinton wins, I'm gonna be pretty pissed off, cuz I won't have anyone to kill anymore, that bitch will put me out of a job" - some soldier who called into Dennis Miller's show a couple months ago.

irrelevent. Im not complaining about soldiers lives....ive been there, i know the job. im saying that terrorists and extremists dont care if they kill americans over here.....or over thwere. as long as their killing us...theyre happy

BTW...funny quote..ill have to pass that along to my dad...hell love it!
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: dr.chimps on July 24, 2008, 08:26:26 PM
This is crazy, McCain must have shed a few tears when he saw the footage of this!
Sweet Jesus! You know who for else they turned out for in large numbers in Berlin?

/stop embarrassing us fellow canucks, you farkin' idgit! man, you are such a farkin' tool!
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 24, 2008, 08:27:49 PM
Sweet Jesus! You know who for else they turned out for in large numbers in Berlin?

/stop embarrassing us fellow canucks, you farkin' idgit! man, you are such a farkin' tool!

haha, MattTowned!!11
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 24, 2008, 08:29:24 PM
irrelevent. Im not complaining about soldiers lives....ive been there, i know the job. im saying that terrorists and extremists dont care if they kill americans over here.....or over thwere. as long as their killing us...theyre happy

BTW...funny quote..ill have to pass that along to my dad...hell love it!

i agree, but don't you think that killing them back is a better option than making shit eating grins in Berlin and telling everyone we should learn Spanish?

The world should strive to be America, not us coming down to "their" level.

Yes, it's a "us vs. them" issue and Obama would rather be "them".
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: flagadajones on July 24, 2008, 08:33:44 PM
europeans and democraps love for the black,muslim cock is quite depressing.

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Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Benny B on July 24, 2008, 08:35:47 PM
i voted for kerry in 2004.

i was just out of college, and everyone my age voted for him.

4 years later, that i have a job and property and "investments" that in America, I will not vote for Obama .

As for oil, the "china and india" demand have nothing to do with it.  most of the time during the year, the refineries are running at less than 80% capacity.  the price of crude went up due to heavy inflow of cash into commodities due to the shitty performance of the general stock market.  notice oil drops a ton every time a company puts out an earnings report that comes at least somewhat close to street estimates.

as for cramer, if you look him up on wikipedia, as goatboy stated, you'll see his many fuckups.  also, he's never reported his earnings to the SEC because hedge funds are exempt from reporting earnings, so his "few million" for all we know is a "few negative million" as hedge funds tend to do.

and lastly, an idiot like mattT who thinks Dubai's in india is supporting Obama is an endorsement enough for me to vote McCain.

A change we can believe in?  Come on, he's offered nothing but bending over to shit ass countries we can nuke overnight.

idiot
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 24, 2008, 08:36:58 PM
idiot

why don't you suck my dick "Benny"?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Benny B on July 24, 2008, 08:39:01 PM
why don't you suck my dick "Benny"?
No thanks, unlike you I'm not a homo.  ;)
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: wes mantooth on July 24, 2008, 08:39:28 PM
i agree, but don't you think that killing them back is a better option than making shit eating grins in Berlin and telling everyone we should learn Spanish?

The world should strive to be America, not us coming down to "their" level.

Yes, it's a "us vs. them" issue and Obama would rather be "them".


true, maybe a little of both...like a soft carress before a punch in the face!!!

everyone in america NEEDS to learn spanish. that way you can tell if your illegal employees are plotting on you


we are not on such a pedistal....pretty ethnocentric to say that everyone should strive to be like us.....lately we have been setting the example of what NOT to be in the world.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: CigaretteMan on July 24, 2008, 09:14:32 PM
Why don't you use your original handle, suckymuscle?

  Because I don't have any other handles besides this. I repeat: I have no other handles besides this. Simple as that. Check my IP and you'll see it's from France. Since the overwhelming majority of members of this board are yanks, a simple IP check comparing his account to mine will prove what I'm saying.

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And it's not what McCain has done but what he plans to do. Had he chosen not be more of the same, then he'd be leading the polls. This nation just doesen't want more countless spending on wars that do nothing but put Americans more at risk of attack.


  Well, for starters, what candidates have done is important. This is like saying that job interviewers shouldn't take into account the professional record of applicants. Going by what they have done, McCain is the better candidate because he has far more public service experience, and he has fought in war, which gives him moral superiority over Obama who has never sacrificed for his country, as well as experience with war since he has gone through it.

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He didn't defend his country you fucking dolt. At what point in time where we ever threatened by Vietnam?

  Defending the country means defending it's interests. It was of strategic interest for the U.S to not allow Vietnam to fall to the communists. Regardless, this is irrelevant since the fact is that he risked his life for the U.S, which Obama never did, and that makes him morally superior. You are intellectually handicapped, and I am amuzed that you had the guts to call me dolt.
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: wes mantooth on July 24, 2008, 09:39:13 PM
 
 

   McCain is the better candidate because he has far more public service experience, and he has fought in war, which gives him moral superiority over Obama who has never sacrificed for his country, as well as experience with war since he has gone through it.

 the fact is that he risked his life for the U.S, which Obama never did, and that makes him morally superior.


there are many fine presidents in our short history that didnt serve...

and barrack was about 4 yrs old when things heated up in Vietnam. maybe he should of put on his plastic M16 cap gun and hopped on a cargo plane to Indonesia.  ::)Serving your counrty has NOTHING to do with moral superiority....and you dont have to risk your life to serve your country. there are plenty of ways "to serve"

and IF obama is president...that will be the greatest risk of all. being the first black president in the unted states makes him a literal target. would that then make him morally superior to mccain?
Title: Re: 200,000 turn out for Obama speech in Berlin!!
Post by: Busted on July 24, 2008, 09:49:03 PM
Just like the lib media scares shit out of the nonthinkers that things are calamatous

MMMMMM....I'd have to defer to Cramer.

I am sure you understand

How is the Media Liberal? Rupert Murdock owns the biggest mediaoutlets, and clear Channel owns about 80% of the others... so where is this liberal Media you speak of?