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Title: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: jason armstrong on July 25, 2008, 05:42:09 AM
how did this guy qualify??
doesn't he post on getbig ....intenseman? the heavy duty advocate...???
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=4637&eventcode=1264
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on July 25, 2008, 05:54:13 AM
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 225
DOB: 06/08
Residence: Santa Ana, CA
Occupation: Personal Trainer/Educator
Website/E-mail: www.greatbodiesfitness.c om
Factoid: Trained with Mike Mentzer
     

   
       
       
       
 
 
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on July 25, 2008, 05:56:07 AM
the guy has paid his dues in blood/sweat and tears!
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: RZA on July 25, 2008, 06:03:26 AM
how did this guy qualify??
doesn't he post on getbig ....intenseman? the heavy duty advocate...???
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=4637&eventcode=1264

You would too if you looked like that at 173 years old.
BTW: is that gyno or his nipples hanging loose?
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 25, 2008, 06:07:06 AM
Do some of these guys get delusional about losing weight thinking they will look too small?
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Get Rowdy on July 25, 2008, 06:21:58 AM
Quit life.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: dr.chimps on July 25, 2008, 06:24:21 AM
the guy has paid his dues in blood/sweat and tears!
He is still in arrears!   :-\
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: liberty on July 25, 2008, 06:24:58 AM
Even though he'd get slaughtered I would think he would be doing the masters nationals and not the USA's
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on July 25, 2008, 06:26:53 AM
He is still in arrears!   :-\

                     LOFUCKINGL!
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: jason armstrong on July 25, 2008, 06:32:40 AM
Do some of these guys get delusional about losing weight thinking they will look too small?

i think he has vince goodrun syndrome...

no offense to him but.shit he must have circus mirrors in his gym and home...
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Pollux on July 25, 2008, 06:35:19 AM
Wow! That's all I have to say.  :-[
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Laura Lee on July 25, 2008, 07:22:06 AM
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 225
DOB: 06/08
Residence: Santa Ana, CA
Occupation: Personal Trainer/Educator
Website/E-mail: www.greatbodiesfitness.c om
Factoid: Trained with Mike Mentzer
     

   
          
       
 
 
The guy behind him to the right looks like he's saying "you can't be serious" and the girl behind him to the left looks like she's saying "wtf".
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: liberty on July 25, 2008, 07:34:08 AM
Girl behind him looks like she's thinking "I wonder if they have waffles here?'
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: musclehedz on July 25, 2008, 07:36:12 AM
One of the best natural bodybuilding has to offer.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Fortress on July 25, 2008, 07:38:49 AM
Not good. Pure mental illness. 
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on July 25, 2008, 08:06:56 AM
how did this guy qualify??
doesn't he post on getbig ....intenseman? the heavy duty advocate...???
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=4637&eventcode=1264
Even Squadfather ......errr Sweetmuscles..... QuakerOats could beat this guy.

Well, it would be close anyway.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on July 25, 2008, 08:10:31 AM
Even Squadfather ......errr Sweetmuscles..... QuakerOats could beat this guy.

Well, it would be close anyway.

Where's the pic of your 21 inch arm big guy?  ::)

You fat sack of shit.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: spinnis on July 25, 2008, 08:13:45 AM
the guy has paid his dues in blood/sweat and tears!

Holy hell, more chins then a chinese phone book  ;D
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: onlyme on July 25, 2008, 08:17:46 AM
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 225
DOB: 06/08
Residence: Santa Ana, CA
Occupation: Personal Trainer/Educator
Website/E-mail: www.greatbodiesfitness.c om
Factoid: Trained with Mike Mentzer
     

   
       
       
       
 
 

He's not bad for being a month old
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Jeffro on July 25, 2008, 08:20:26 AM
He looks great for his age, but there is no fucking way in hell he should ever step on a bodybuilding stage looking like that. :-\
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: tommywishbone on July 25, 2008, 08:26:51 AM
The guy is obviously retarded. He should have a helmet on and a drool bib.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: spinnis on July 25, 2008, 08:44:28 AM
(http://www.greatbodiesfitness.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/qw5q1984_kjorkrzhcn.jpg)
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 25, 2008, 09:21:23 AM
THOSE PICTURES ARE FOR YOU STUPID COCKFAGS WHO WANT BBING DRUG TESTED

NOT SO FUN NOW, EH? YOU SELF RIGHTEOUS FUCKS

 :-*
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Stark on July 25, 2008, 09:24:35 AM
THOSE PICTURES ARE FOR YOU STUPID COCKFAGS WHO WANT BBING DRUG TESTED

NOT SO FUN NOW, EH? YOU SELF RIGHTEOUS FUCKS

 :-*

calm down gloria

Drug testing is the only way forward in this "sport"
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Below Me on July 25, 2008, 10:12:49 AM
Every contest needs someone to win LAST PLACE
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Playboy on July 25, 2008, 10:15:43 AM
calm down gloria

Drug testing is the only way forward in this "sport"
he's absolutely correct.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: knny187 on July 25, 2008, 10:37:28 AM
wow
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Epic_Monster on July 25, 2008, 01:02:02 PM
how did this guy qualify??
doesn't he post on getbig ....intenseman? the heavy duty advocate...???
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=4637&eventcode=1264

He returns! He used to post here I think.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 25, 2008, 01:05:43 PM
(http://www.greatbodiesfitness.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/qw5q1984_kjorkrzhcn.jpg)

He doesn't look too bad there.

I don't know the guy, but if he's a personal trainer, that pic would win him a ton of elderly business clients.  For some people, just standing on stage at the USAs is a life goal.  I know that 99% of us will never step on a local stage, much less the USAs.  Maybe he's just padding his resume.

Besides, when we are 60+ years old like he is, we'll also probably be way past giving a shit when anyone else thinks of us.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on July 25, 2008, 01:09:07 PM
He doesn't look too bad there.

I don't know the guy, but if he's a personal trainer, that pic would win him a ton of elderly business clients.  For some people, just standing on stage at the USAs is a life goal.  I know that 99% of us will never step on a local stage, much less the USAs.  Maybe he's just padding his resume.

Besides, when we are 60+ years old like he is, we'll also probably be way past giving a shit when anyone else thinks of us.

   Ummmmmmm................ .........the guy is in his 40's Rob
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Epic_Monster on July 25, 2008, 01:09:45 PM
   Ummmmmmm................ .........the guy is in his 40's Rob

Oh shit! Brutal aging.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: gordiano on July 25, 2008, 01:12:54 PM
   Ummmmmmm................ .........the guy is in his 40's Rob

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  No fucking way!  :-\
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: 240 is Back on July 25, 2008, 01:18:18 PM
   Ummmmmmm................ .........the guy is in his 40's Rob


wow, brutal aging on that dude.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: BuffD on July 25, 2008, 01:35:40 PM
Believe it or not there is a Bantam that looks worse.  He actually was talking to Steve Stone about having to free his schedule in case he won.  ???
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on July 25, 2008, 04:06:17 PM
   Ummmmmmm................ .........the guy is in his 40's Rob

When you hit your 40's your metabolism goes down, along with natural test production, a double whammy!  >:(
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: dr.chimps on July 25, 2008, 04:08:14 PM
When you hit your 40's your metabolism goes down, along with natural test production, a double whammy!  >:(
Well, that's when you approach your physician and get your HRT. No shame in that!
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 25, 2008, 04:14:23 PM
He is still in arrears!   :-\

Hhahahahah!  ;D
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 07:32:39 AM
how did this guy qualify??
doesn't he post on getbig ....intenseman? the heavy duty advocate...???
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=4637&eventcode=1264
  Actually qualified twice in 1 month, this was from winning the superheavyweight class at the Border States in 2006. http://www.musculardevelopment.com/lindsay/index.php?mode=browse&id=4637&eventcode=894
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: MAXX on September 18, 2008, 07:37:09 AM
  Actually qualified twice in 1 month, this was from winning the superheavyweight class at the Border States in 2006. http://www.musculardevelopment.com/lindsay/index.php?mode=browse&id=4637&eventcode=894
you look like shit dude. quit bb.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 07:47:37 AM
you look like shit dude. quit bb.
fuck off moron
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Mydavid on September 18, 2008, 07:49:05 AM
fuck off moron

DOH
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 18, 2008, 07:51:29 AM
I used to think I'd be hitting HRT as soon as I hit 35 or 40.

But man... prostate issues would be a bitch.  Same with worrying about cancer, being dependent on HRT for life at that point (telling your nuts to retire, they're done forever, clomid ain't bringing back sperm at 50).
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 08:02:47 AM
I used to think I'd be hitting HRT as soon as I hit 35 or 40.

But man... prostate issues would be a bitch.  Same with worrying about cancer, being dependent on HRT for life at that point (telling your nuts to retire, they're done forever, clomid ain't bringing back sperm at 50).
   Im using your post to consolidate on this, hope that's cool. I was on HRT from age 41 til last year when my clinic was closed.  Just finally found one last week and my test results were awful - test 168 (was 334 7 years ago) and IGF 55. I am going to qualify for 400 mg of test a week (which Im going to do) and 4 Iu's of Gh (which Id like to do  but can't afford). The test should at least reverse the deterioration of the past couple years. I dieted for 24 weeks and was up to 2 hours a say of cardio, but my body just wasn't responding as it had. I also overdepleted trying to get ripped using the Palumbo diet- never again!  Anyway, HRT is safe, the risks from low test (as I have) are actually worse, re cancer.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: QuakerOats on September 18, 2008, 08:05:09 AM
this guy gets my respect for being in the gym in his 50's or 60's, he may not look like a top level competitor or even like one of the better guys in any gym but he gets my respect.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 08:17:06 AM
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=508882&size=big&cat=&ppuser=13622)
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Krankenstein on September 18, 2008, 08:29:16 AM
   Im using your post to consolidate on this, hope that's cool. I was on HRT from age 41 til last year when my clinic was closed.  Just finally found one last week and my test results were awful - test 168 (was 334 7 years ago) and IGF 55. I am going to qualify for 400 mg of test a week (which Im going to do) and 4 Iu's of Gh (which Id like to do  but can't afford). The test should at least reverse the deterioration of the past couple years. I dieted for 24 weeks and was up to 2 hours a say of cardio, but my body just wasn't responding as it had. I also overdepleted trying to get ripped using the Palumbo diet- never again!  Anyway, HRT is safe, the risks from low test (as I have) are actually worse, re cancer.

You're gonna blame Palumbo's diet on your conditioning???  Dude...you are starting to sound like so many people I have competed against that look like shit...and try to find any and all excuses why you looked like shit.  You dieted 24 fucking weeks....seeing yourself in front of a mirror every day....yet you still did the show.  Did it not occur to you at at 8 weeks out you still looked like shit and would probably look like shit on stage?  Seriously now....also, if the diet wasn't eliciting results that would CLEARLY be advantageous to you stepping on stage in SOME reasonable shape....why continue to use it????
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 08:57:58 AM
You're gonna blame Palumbo's diet on your conditioning???  Dude...you are starting to sound like so many people I have competed against that look like shit...and try to find any and all excuses why you looked like shit.  You dieted 24 fucking weeks....seeing yourself in front of a mirror every day....yet you still did the show.  Did it not occur to you at at 8 weeks out you still looked like shit and would probably look like shit on stage?  Seriously now....also, if the diet wasn't eliciting results that would CLEARLY be advantageous to you stepping on stage in SOME reasonable shape....why continue to use it????
  im not blaming it, Im saying it didn't work as well as what Mike had me do. I am saying that being off HRT and being in a near state of pituitary shutdown left me looking worse, even though I was actually my biggest, 228 lbs (dieted down from 274)at 6'2" arms were 19 1/2 cold the week before the show. With a more normal hormone balance I should be much improved.  As to looking like "shit", fuck you.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on September 18, 2008, 09:10:40 AM
this guy gets my respect for being in the gym in his 50's or 60's, he may not look like a top level competitor or even like one of the better guys in any gym but he gets my respect.
 
                                        That's cool that he get's ur respect Dave......im sure it's not so cool u think he's in his 50's or 60's when he's only in his 40's

                                                                  ;)
                                             
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: CalvinH on September 18, 2008, 09:16:51 AM
 
                                        That's cool that he get's ur respect Dave......im sure it's not so cool u think he's in his 50's or 60's when he's only in his 40's

                                                                  ;)
                                             




When did you dye your hair and get rid of your tats ???






























 ;D
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 09:23:20 AM
 
                                        That's cool that he get's ur respect Dave......im sure it's not so cool u think he's in his 50's or 60's when he's only in his 40's

                                                                  ;)
                                             
  its ok, I looked drawn, from depleting and dehydration. If you see my offseason pics the wrinkles aren't there. Well except for two that I got from losinf 50 lbs in a month when my ex and I were divorcing.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on September 18, 2008, 09:24:11 AM



When did you dye your hair and get rid of your tats ???






























 ;D

Some better pics!!

  Don't hate


                       appreciate!!
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on September 18, 2008, 09:30:05 AM
He was obviously a bit "off" at the USA's


maybe cut his sodium too soon?
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: GetItOnNY on September 18, 2008, 09:31:51 AM
When I did the USA's this guy was there 2 yerars in a row.When he came back stage I thought he was just a photographer because he came in the pump up room dressed like Jimmy Buffet.
He was wearing a casual shirt, Dockers shorts, and sandals.He looked like he was on vacation at Hawaii.Plus he isnt very lean, or muscular, so I just figured he must be a photographer.
Then when we were getting ready to go on stage he peels, off, and to my suprise he was a competitor,lol.He did the USA 2 years in a row, and looked horrible both years he did the show.
The sad part is this guy is a superheavy weight ,yet he has no muscle what so ever.He probably has if he is lucky a 16" arm with no peak or shape.A 16" arm isnt that bad in a natural show, or in the batamweight class.But in the superheavies most of those guys have atleast 20 " plus arms on a bad day, and the bigger guys havev 21" -22" arms.The only thing I can figure is he has heavy ass bones to weigh 225lbs on stage.The only way this guy qualified is if he did a show, and they had no superheavies, so he enterd the show just to qualify.There is no way this guy beat anybody in a bodybuilding contest.If you look closely you can see the word"Babygirl' tatooed below his belly button WTF??????
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 09:32:43 AM



When did you dye your hair and get rid of your tats ???






























 ;D
  what tats?
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on September 18, 2008, 09:40:05 AM
When I did the USA's this guy was there 2 yerars in a row.When he came back stage I thought he was just a photographer because he came in the pump up room dressed like Jimmy Buffet.
He was wearing a casual shirt, Dockers shorts, and sandals.He looked like he was on vacation at Hawaii.Plus he isnt very lean, or muscular, so I just figured he must be a photographer.
Then when we were getting ready to go on stage he peels, off, and to my suprise he was a competitor,lol.He did the USA 2 years in a row, and looked horrible both years he did the show.
The sad part is this guy is a superheavy weight ,yet he has no muscle what so ever.He probably has if he is lucky a 16" arm with no peak or shape.A 16" arm isnt that bad in a natural show, or in the batamweight class.But in the superheavies most of those guys have atleast 20 " plus arms on a bad day, and the bigger guys havev 21" -22" arms.The only thing I can figure is he has heavy ass bones to weigh 225lbs on stage.The only way this guy qualified is if he did a show, and they had no superheavies, so he enterd the show just to qualify.There is no way this guy beat anybody in a bodybuilding contest.If you look closely you can see the word"Babygirl' tatooed below his belly button WTF??????


John i disagree!!..................if you step back from your computer 300 feet
squint/turn off the lights......light some candles
and look at this guys pic again
he's pretty fucking jacked!!!
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: HTexan on September 18, 2008, 09:52:26 AM
I guess he is one hell of a trainer?
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on September 18, 2008, 10:03:44 AM
John i disagree!!..................if you step back from your computer 300 feet
squint/turn off the lights......light some candles
and look at this guys pic again
he's pretty fucking jacked!!!

No question about it, his legs are at least three times as big as yours.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: nder98 on September 18, 2008, 10:08:52 AM
Awful....  Its funny cus I see trainers at my gym that look like they havent lifted a wieght in their natural born lives.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 10:42:36 AM
He was obviously a bit "off" at the USA's


maybe cut his sodium too soon?
  Michael, I was way off, but it wasn't due to lack of preparatipn. Having got my lab work done, the doc thinks Im having a pituitary problem, my brain isn't signaling the optimum hormone production, in bodybuilding, that amounts to a train wreck. I know this may hard to believe, but I did most of it right. My body just shutdown as best as I can describe it. No excuses, its just what happened to the best of my knowledge.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Krankenstein on September 18, 2008, 10:57:09 AM
  im not blaming it, Im saying it didn't work as well as what Mike had me do. I am saying that being off HRT and being in a near state of pituitary shutdown left me looking worse, even though I was actually my biggest, 228 lbs (dieted down from 274)at 6'2" arms were 19 1/2 cold the week before the show. With a more normal hormone balance I should be much improved.  As to looking like "shit", fuck you.

What do the size of your arms have to do with your overall bodyfat??  You started dieting down from 274 to 228.....thats just about 2lbs of fat a week.....yet you showed up in the condition you did.  What does that tell me?  You shouldnt have done the show.  The comments you are seeing are reflective of what people in the audience were saying to themselves as well as to the person next to them.  Does that make sense?  Again, the question remains...at about 6 - 8 weeks out of the show....did you honestly think you were going to be able to look presentable on stage?  Were you going for a Goodrum-esque type of physique?
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: GetItOnNY on September 18, 2008, 11:00:53 AM
Intencman is this you? If it is, and you lookede that off why wouldnt you just sit out the show.There are times when I was prepairing for a show, and things werent going aswell as I planned because of and injury or what ever so I just didnt do the show.
You know within 6-8 weeks out ,wether your going to look good or not.If you dont look good 6 weeks out, step out.
It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that your body was clearly off.If your body wasnt responding to your diet or training, you should have dropped out of the show, and went to the DR.Nobody in there right mind would step on stage looking like that, especially the at the Mr USA.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Mars on September 18, 2008, 11:02:36 AM
any fool can go on a bodybuilding stage.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: BlueDevil on September 18, 2008, 11:03:54 AM
  Michael, I was way off, but it wasn't due to lack of preparatipn. Having got my lab work done, the doc thinks Im having a pituitary problem, my brain isn't signaling the optimum hormone production, in bodybuilding, that amounts to a train wreck. I know this may hard to believe, but I did most of it right. My body just shutdown as best as I can describe it. No excuses, its just what happened to the best of my knowledge.

props to you

BALLS OF STEEL !!!!!!!
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: GetItOnNY on September 18, 2008, 11:10:52 AM
Your arms were 19 1/2" cold when??? Your legs arent even 19 1/2".Are you smoking crack? Your arms were never 19 1/2" ,not a year before, or even a wekk before the show.Besides who measures there are a wekk before a show? Who gives a fu#@ how big there arms are ? It not how big they are, its how big they look.Your arms my friend look 15" .
We arent bashing you, we are just giving you a reality check, so you dont go up on that stage again and make an ass of yourself, looking horrible again.Trust me, the people in the audience and the judges, would tell you the same things we are telling you.I know because I am a certified judge in 4 diffrent organizations.I have judged over 200 shows.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Army of One on September 18, 2008, 11:17:33 AM
Your arms were 19 1/2" cold when??? Your legs arent even 19 1/2".Are you smoking crack? Your arms were never 19 1/2" ,not a year before, or even a wekk before the show.Besides who measures there are a wekk before a show? Who gives a fu#@ how big there arms are ? It not how big they are, its how big they look.Your arms my friend look 15" .
We arent bashing you, we are just giving you a reality check, so you dont go up on that stage again and make an ass of yourself, looking horrible again.Trust me, the people in the audience and the judges, would tell you the same things we are telling you.I know because I am a certified judge in 4 diffrent organizations.I have judged over 200 shows.

To be fair he has lost some luke wood type size, he is 6'3 check the difference in these 2 pics...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225606.0;attach=264224;image)
(http://www.greatbodiesfitness.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/mmns.jpg.w300h450.jpg)

Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 11:24:28 AM
Wow. Ok. 8 weeks out I was huge and on track at 240 lbs. I have pics on this cell but can't seem to upload them. I invested 6 months of work into it and my fiancee planned her vacation at the same time. I did the Masters Nationals the week before- my real objective, but I had 2 Nationals qualifications expiring in October, and at age 48, didn't know if I would have that opportunity again. And- she wanted me to go for it and we wanted to go to Vegas. I actually was 2 lbs heavier at 228 and was a tad sharper at the UsA than the Masters. The carbs were just too little. too  late. I did my best and I got to do 2 National shows in a week, and who can say that? . My major focus is my business, I don't have pro potential,
 I know that, but I love training and training people and helping them improve, and that's the ball game for me. That and getting better.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: ahh.. fk on September 18, 2008, 11:30:02 AM
how did this guy qualify??
doesn't he post on getbig ....intenseman? the heavy duty advocate...???
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=4637&eventcode=1264


Thats not Moosjay?
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 11:41:42 AM
Your arms were 19 1/2" cold when??? Your legs arent even 19 1/2".Are you smoking crack? Your arms were never 19 1/2" ,not a year before, or even a wek before the show.Besides who measures there are a wekk before a show? Who gives a fu#@ how big there arms are ? It not how big they are, its how big they look.Your arms my friend look 15" .
We arent bashing you, we are just giving you a reality check, so you dont go up on that stage again and make an ass of yourself, looking horrible again.Trust me, the people in the audience and the judges, would tell you the same things we are telling you.I know because I am a certified judge in 4 diffrent organizations.I have judged over 200 shows.
  ummm again -Im 6'2".  Why measure? Why the hell not? You want me to post a tape measure pic? I can. 15" arms at 228 lbs? Ummm ok, you're the one on crack, they were 15" 15 years ago when - weighed 185, whatever, Im done defending what was very hard work. If you're ever near Prescott Az, you can come tape the things- 15" arms dont curl 205 - pic on www.greatbodiesfitness.c om. Oh yeah 19" thighs? They were 23 when I started lifting. You're a judge?  Hmmm... no wonder bodybuilding's fucked up  with huge gutted roid freaks winning... truce now, or you want to continue this?   
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Disgusted on September 18, 2008, 11:57:57 AM
Your arms were 19 1/2" cold when??? Your legs arent even 19 1/2".Are you smoking crack? Your arms were never 19 1/2" ,not a year before, or even a wekk before the show.Besides who measures there are a wekk before a show? Who gives a fu#@ how big there arms are ? It not how big they are, its how big they look.Your arms my friend look 15" .
We arent bashing you, we are just giving you a reality check, so you dont go up on that stage again and make an ass of yourself, looking horrible again.Trust me, the people in the audience and the judges, would tell you the same things we are telling you.I know because I am a certified judge in 4 diffrent organizations.I have judged over 200 shows.

I agree that he should not have entered this show but calling him an ass IS bashing him.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: GetItOnNY on September 18, 2008, 12:25:02 PM
Intenceman, Please quit while your ahead.I am a retired national competitor, who was a superheavyweight.I weighed 258lbs when I competed.I dont want to measure your arm, why would I ? If you have 19" arms good for you, but they dont look 19" they look at best 16".Your one of those guys who impressed by a tape meaure and stats, I am a person who impressed by how some one looks.Here is a pic of me a couple of weeks out from my last national show, 2 years ago.This is what a super heavy should look like getting ready for a show.I am not bashing you I am just trying to give you a reailty check.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 12:41:25 PM
Intenceman, Please quit while your ahead.I am a retired national competitor, who was a superheavyweight.I weighed 258lbs when I competed.I dont want to measure your arm, why would I ? If you have 19" arms good for you, but they dont look 19" they look at best 16".Your one of those guys who impressed by a tape meaure and stats, I am a person who impressed by how some one looks.Here is a pic of me a couple of weeks out from my last national show, 2 years ago.This is what a super heavy should look like getting ready for a show.I am not bashing you I am just trying to give you a reailty check.
No you assu,e too much.I use measurements, bw, bf percentage Etc. as OBJECTIVE measurements. Im 48,not a friggin teenager.     How tall are you?  Im 6' 2" with a 33 sleeve. thats a long fucking arm...if I was 5'8, then maybe 16 inches would be right on  did you click nmy website? YES  I COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF MY TEST HADN'T BEEN 168 AND I HAD USED STEROIDS, Gh. Etc BUT THAT WASN'T THE CASE. You.looked great, no doubt, but this was for businesss and for the chance to do it
, maybe the only time I would get....
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Overload on September 18, 2008, 01:51:44 PM
When I did the USA's this guy was there 2 yerars in a row.When he came back stage I thought he was just a photographer because he came in the pump up room dressed like Jimmy Buffet.
He was wearing a casual shirt, Dockers shorts, and sandals.He looked like he was on vacation at Hawaii.Plus he isnt very lean, or muscular, so I just figured he must be a photographer.
Then when we were getting ready to go on stage he peels, off, and to my suprise he was a competitor,lol.He did the USA 2 years in a row, and looked horrible both years he did the show.
The sad part is this guy is a superheavy weight ,yet he has no muscle what so ever.He probably has if he is lucky a 16" arm with no peak or shape.A 16" arm isnt that bad in a natural show, or in the batamweight class.But in the superheavies most of those guys have atleast 20 " plus arms on a bad day, and the bigger guys havev 21" -22" arms.The only thing I can figure is he has heavy ass bones to weigh 225lbs on stage.The only way this guy qualified is if he did a show, and they had no superheavies, so he enterd the show just to qualify.There is no way this guy beat anybody in a bodybuilding contest.If you look closely you can see the word"Babygirl' tatooed below his belly button WTF??????


Holy shit!

i used to train at the same gym as that guy, a total delusional person. he told me 15 times in about 3 years that he was about to get his pro card.

he claimed to bench over 500 pounds but never did more than 4 plates on the hammer strength machines.

No legs or back, but in a tank top he looked like a big dude. used to take his shirt off and have a posedown after training every night.

Small world...

His girlfriend is about 20 years older than him...or at least looks it.

He used to wear that same outfit you mentioned to the gym.

8)
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on September 18, 2008, 02:05:58 PM
Some of the pics on ur website are red X's
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 02:17:24 PM
Some of the pics on ur website are red X's
  thanks, may be a server problem, will check into it. Wow that second pic is from 2000...
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: michael arvilla on September 18, 2008, 02:18:19 PM
  thanks, may be a server problem, will check into it. Wow that second pic is from 2000...

good transformation.......... ....post up some of your before and after pics!!!!
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: dr.chimps on September 18, 2008, 02:34:10 PM
Hmm. Something is amiss. Intenceman is in his 40's? He looks 55. There is downward slope (health-wise) aspect to all his shots, and I'm not sure an HRT thingy is the problem. He does not look 'well.'  :-\
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: TacoBell on September 18, 2008, 02:37:05 PM
Damn, props to him for being in shape at his age......but there is not a pic on his website which illustrates a physique that should appear on stage in a bb'ing show.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 03:04:16 PM
Hmm. Something is amiss. Intenceman is in his 40's? He looks 55. There is downward slope (health-wise) aspect to all his shots, and I'm not sure an HRT thingy is the problem. He does not look 'well.'  :-\
   that's funny, cause all my lab  tests came back perfect, except the test and IGF, and a slightly elevatred PROJECTED
Cholesterol.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Viking11 on September 18, 2008, 03:10:29 PM
Damn, props to him for being in shape at his age......but there is not a pic on his website which illustrates a physique that should appear on stage in a bb'ing show.
   That's funny too, cause there's 8 trophys - 6 NPC's on my mantle, 2 1sts, a 2nd, 2 3rds, a 4th and a 5th, (all won in so calif 2005-7)  saying different.   Anyway, Im done. I didnt start this thread, or ask for it (found it by accident) but let end it here.
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: dr.chimps on September 18, 2008, 03:45:12 PM
   that's funny, cause all my lab  tests came back perfect, except the test and IGF, and a slightly elevatred PROJECTED
Cholesterol.
Well, that's good news. I only chimed in as I'm in my 40's (and on HRT) and lack a few of your characteristics. Keep lifting bro.  :)
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: JohnnyVegas on September 18, 2008, 04:23:00 PM
how did this guy qualify??
doesn't he post on getbig ....intenseman? the heavy duty advocate...???
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=4637&eventcode=1264

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225606.0;attach=264224;image)

Is this "Elite_Lifter"?????
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: GetItOnNY on September 18, 2008, 04:56:11 PM
I give this guy props for being for 48, and working out.In this picture he doesnt look bad,just a lil shallow in the legs.
In this picture he looks 100 times better then he did at the USA's.In this pic, if he is 6'2" his arms do look around 18-19" because his arms are long.I personally would have not did the Mr USA, if I looked as off as he did, especially for buissness reasons.
I have stepped out of doing 3 shows in my lifetime and I am glad I did.Next time your doing a show, ask your wife or a friend who will give you and honest opinion on how you look.If they say, your off, just step out og the show, hit a buffet or pizza parlor, and enjoy yourself.Keep up the good work,for 48 you look good ;)
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: Howard on September 18, 2008, 05:30:54 PM
Even though he'd get slaughtered I would think he would be doing the masters nationals and not the USA's
I feel strongly that any serious BB should be encouraged to enter their age div at any local/state NPC show.
The nationals is a different matter. An open USA is REALLY a different matter.
The guy is doing well FOR HIS age, but  getting in the open USA ,  is like some over age 50 sprinter from the 1970's trying sprint against the Usain Bolt , NOW.
I suspect he went out with his class , did the qtr turns in a big line up , maybe a couple poses and that was it.
If that is worth the time and entry fee to him, whatever.... :-[
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: technokc on September 18, 2008, 05:37:20 PM
Nobbody is doubting that he is in good shape for his age, people just thought he shouldn't be competing.  Than Mr. Intense replied why he did, it makes sense, so it subject should be dropped.

On another note there could be epic potential for a showdown between him Ken Jones and that Jocelyn dude! ;D
Title: Re: how why and what would you go into the USA's looking like this?
Post by: LatsMcGee on September 18, 2008, 07:56:36 PM
Show some respect,  this guy smoked with Mike Mentzner.