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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: skipope007 on July 25, 2008, 03:37:51 PM
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I've done several cycles but have never used tren. My next cycle will consist of 900 mg of test ew and 600 mg of EQ ew. It will be ten to twelve weeks long. I'll also throw in 50 mg of d-bol ed the first three or four weeks and then for the remainder I'll add 50 mg of winny ed. I'm planning of grabbing 40 mL of tren-e at 100 mg per mL. How should I add it in my cycle? Thanks in advance gents.
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If you can, change to tren-a instead of tren-e...my personal experience is tren-a is much smoother and simply more effective.
Also, if you end up having problems from tren...some guys do, if you're using tren-a then if problems arise, just stop and it's out of your system very quickly...not so with tren-e
recommended for first time tren user:
6-8wks tren-a 50mg/eod
Even for someone who has used tren a few times, this can still be plenty of tren. I'll admit though, if you get down to a really lean BF%, 100mg/ed is awesome!
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Thats a nice cycle similar to mine, since its tren- e I would go every other day, if it was tren-a I would do ed, the dose is between 50-100 mg eod, depends on how you handle it, I would start with 50 for the first 10 shots then bump up to 100mg eod for the rest. Tren is a least twice as strong as test per mg some say even 3 times so heads up.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I thought I was gonna have to do 50 100 ed, which sounds like way too much starting out. Should I keep the winny during my cycle or is that just personal preference?
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I've done several cycles but have never used tren. My next cycle will consist of 900 mg of test ew and 600 mg of EQ ew. It will be ten to twelve weeks long. I'll also throw in 50 mg of d-bol ed the first three or four weeks and then for the remainder I'll add 50 mg of winny ed. I'm planning of grabbing 40 mL of tren-e at 100 mg per mL. How should I add it in my cycle? Thanks in advance gents.
Honestly, I'd drop the EQ and sub the Tren for the bulk of the cycle.
EQ is a mild anabolic, but nothing special.
Tren is the best of both world...........androgen ic and anabolic.
DIV
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Honestly, I'd drop the EQ and sub the Tren for the bulk of the cycle.
EQ is a mild anabolic, but nothing special.
Tren is the best of both world...........androgen ic and anabolic.
DIV
all steroids are both androgenic and anabolic.
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all steroids are both androgenic and anabolic.
Tren is one of the few AAS that is both androgenically and anabolically strong, rather than tilting heavily one way or the other.
Do I need to explain that to you as well, baby dizzle?
Some AAS are highly anabolic while being only low to moderately androgenic (EQ, Anavar).....
....and vice versa (Halotestin, Methyltestosterone).
DIV
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Tren is one of the few AAS that is both androgenically and anabolically strong, rather than tilting heavily one way or the other.
Do I need to explain that to you as well, baby dizzle?
Some AAS are highly anabolic while being only low to moderately androgenic (EQ, Anavar).....
....and vice versa (Halotestin, Methyltestosterone).
DIV
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Tren is for cows. I know at least 5 mild juicers who had kidney problems while using it for only few weeks.
Why bother?
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Tren is for cows. I know at least 5 mild juicers who had kidney problems while using it for only few weeks.
Why bother?
No you don't ;D
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No you don't ;D
Yes I do. Live in dellusional land. When your urine test comes back with 25+ blood cell count, you'll regret it.
I'm so glad I never got into that shit...
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Alex has a very good body, care to post some pictures for us? I would like to see it tonight.
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Alex has a very good body, care to post some pictures for us? I would like to see it tonight.
Not on this board jt. The juicer no face mods have it for me here. They'll delete it.
I'll post somewhere else.
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So yeah it has been forever since I last posted. But anyway, I am pretty bored tonight so why not?
Why would Alex23 come to the steroid info room on a bodybuilding forum and post something so ignorant and off base? Why just stir up trouble?
It is true that tren can be harsh, especially when you add in other factors (rec drugs, diet, amount, age, etc...) but, as has already been said, tren taken correctly is awesome. Probably the best and most powerful mg for mg steroid widely available today. I have not used tren e, just tren a, and I absolutely love it. It sounds like it would fit in great in the cycle you are proposing, with or without eq. I personally like tren and eq together as part of a cutting/pre-contest cycle. Sides I have seen are very dark urine, insomnia, and sweating, none of which were unbearable, alone or together. I also agree with whoever said try tren a instead of tren e, especially for your first time with tren period. That was recommended to me and it worked out great. Depending upon how your tren a is dosed, I would almost say 50-75mg eod. Either way, good luck! You will love it regardless of which ester you choose.
On a side note, Division is 1000% right on with the difference between anabolic and androgenic actions steroids independently exhibit. Understanding that that is a fact and additionally which steroids are primarily anabolic and which are primarily androgenic is the key to putting together effective cycles, both in terms of cost and results.
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Dianabol:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 90-210:40-60
Anavar:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 322-630:24
Anadrol 50:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 320:45
Proviron:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 100-150/30-40
Testosterone:
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 100:100
these number mean nothing IRL.
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Wow. Nothing? Just look at the ratio on Drol. Look at the effects of Drol. There's your answer right there.
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Wow. Nothing? Just look at the ratio on Drol. Look at the effects of Drol. There's your answer right there.
a true person-to person rating would mean something. ratings based off rat muscle that are applied to human beings, all human beings, do not. and besides, the number only indicate whether its tendency is more anabolic or more androgenic. they are all anabolic and androgenic. and, on another note, the high the number, not necessarily "the more powerful" the steroid. and ANOTHER issue, differet people react different to different steroids. for example, one person might grow quite well off of nandrolone, while another person migh grow better off the same doseage of boldenone. remember, its not how "strongly" a steroid binds to a receptor... but what it activates once it does bind. in certain individuals a steroid might activate a function which said person is genetically limited in performing. while in another, they might genetically be phenomneal at that particular function. :)
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a true person-to person rating would mean something. ratings based off rat muscle that are applied to human beings, all human beings, do not. and besides, the number only indicate whether its tendency is more anabolic or more androgenic. they are all anabolic and androgenic. and, on another note, the high the number, not necessarily "the more powerful" the steroid. and ANOTHER issue, differet people react different to different steroids. for example, one person might grow quite well off of nandrolone, while another person migh grow better off the same doseage of boldenone. remember, its not how "strongly" a steroid binds to a receptor... but what it activates once it does bind. in certain individuals a steroid might activate a function which said person is genetically limited in performing. while in another, they might genetically be phenomneal at that particular function. :)
I agree that an OVERWHELMINGLY HIGH percentage of steroids have both androgenic and anabolic properties. Also, I agree that the higher the number does not mean the more powerful the steroid. And I agree that everyone reacts differently to the same drugs.
However, the anabolic or androgenic properties of steroids determine what SPECIFIC effects/sides each presents. For example, Drol is highly anabolic. Therefore, it has a high rate of anabolic sides, like water retention, oily skin, etc... Tren and other more androgenic steroids do not cause water retention for the most part in most users. That is a VERY general reply because it is late and now I am tired. I do respect what you say, but offer my opinion as well. :)
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So yeah it has been forever since I last posted. But anyway, I am pretty bored tonight so why not?
Why would Alex23 come to the steroid info room on a bodybuilding forum and post something so ignorant and off base? Why just stir up trouble?
Put your head in the sand.... I personally know people with permanent kidney dammage from tren alone.
You said it yourself juicehead, "very very dark urine" .. you know what it means, right.. kidney damage occuring.
Dellusionned with ignorance.
Ask Disgusted.
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one thing for sure i can't sleep while on.... but i rather have this in my blood than a 24 case of bud. (what i would do before way back when) // alex no disrespect your one stack tank, thanks for the warning, def will keep that in mind on what you said.
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I agree that an OVERWHELMINGLY HIGH percentage of steroids have both androgenic and anabolic properties. Also, I agree that the higher the number does not mean the more powerful the steroid. And I agree that everyone reacts differently to the same drugs.
However, the anabolic or androgenic properties of steroids determine what SPECIFIC effects/sides each presents. For example, Drol is highly anabolic. Therefore, it has a high rate of anabolic sides, like water retention, oily skin, etc... Tren and other more androgenic steroids do not cause water retention for the most part in most users. That is a VERY general reply because it is late and now I am tired. I do respect what you say, but offer my opinion as well. :)
4sure. yeah i said it does indicate whether it is more one or more the other. but beyond that it doesnt tell you much.
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I agree that an OVERWHELMINGLY HIGH percentage of steroids have both androgenic and anabolic properties. Also, I agree that the higher the number does not mean the more powerful the steroid. And I agree that everyone reacts differently to the same drugs.
However, the anabolic or androgenic properties of steroids determine what SPECIFIC effects/sides each presents. For example, Drol is highly anabolic. Therefore, it has a high rate of anabolic sides, like water retention, oily skin, etc... Tren and other more androgenic steroids do not cause water retention for the most part in most users. That is a VERY general reply because it is late and now I am tired. I do respect what you say, but offer my opinion as well. :)
I thought those were androgenic sides? ???
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Not on this board jt. The juicer no face mods have it for me here. They'll delete it.
I'll post somewhere else.
How so? Please explain.
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Screw Vida.. and screw anabolic/androgenic ratios. Tren is also not going to damage your kidneys. I know that lots of people have the "AFOAF" stories but until I see some blood work, I'm not going to believe it.
I've seen people who've had issues and have TAKEN tren, but it wasn't caused by it. People just hear the propaganda, get their blood work back and go "OHHH SNAP DA TREN GOT ME~1!122!!111!!!". When in fact, it was NOT the tren that had a direct cause.... but if I see blood work that proves otherwise, I'll eat my words.
Not hoping on cycle for a bit, but when I do I'll be sure to note my kidney values as I'll be using tren for 8 weeks and test for 10. I will prove show how little my kidneys will be impacted, if at all. :)
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Screw Vida.. and screw anabolic/androgenic ratios. Tren is also not going to damage your kidneys. I know that lots of people have the "AFOAF" stories but until I see some blood work, I'm not going to believe it.
I've seen people who've had issues and have TAKEN tren, but it wasn't caused by it. People just hear the propaganda, get their blood work back and go "OHHH SNAP DA TREN GOT ME~1!122!!111!!!". When in fact, it was NOT the tren that had a direct cause.... but if I see blood work that proves otherwise, I'll eat my words.
Not hoping on cycle for a bit, but when I do I'll be sure to note my kidney values as I'll be using tren for 8 weeks and test for 10. I will prove show how little my kidneys will be impacted, if at all. :)
This by far the best post of the month. Do you guys really think Ronnie or Jay sit there and care about ratio. What this board needs is people with real life experience that know what they are talking about, all this book shit is a bunch of horse shitt, all I see is a bunch of people argueing about very technical stuff that has no play in the real world just so they can satisfy there ego.
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This by far the best post of the month. Do you guys really think Ronnie or Jay sit there and care about ratio. What this board needs is people with real life experience that know what they are talking about, all this book shit is a bunch of horse shitt, all I see is a bunch of people argueing about very technical stuff that has no play in the real world just so they can satisfy there ego.
Actually, THIS is the best reply of the month Onetimehard.
A bunch of charlatans thinking they know it all.
I've seen the cycles. I've seen the damages.
I have 2 doctors in my families to who I referred small time juicers with minor problems following tren regiments.
They all showed up with proteinuria, urinary red blood cell counts that were 25+ (which hits the "check for a tumor" range), the "normal" is 0-5.
but yet, the meat heads keeps injecting shit like there are no consequences. They will most likely delete my post anyway.
What kind of " health problem" is the most common amongst pros?????????
fucking lunatics.
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Actually, THIS is the best reply of the month Onetimehard.
A bunch of charlatans thinking they know it all.
I've seen the cycles. I've seen the damages.
I have 2 doctors in my families to who I referred small time juicers with minor problems following tren regiments.
They all showed up with proteinuria, urinary red blood cell counts that were 25+ (which hits the "check for a tumor" range), the "normal" is 0-5.
but yet, the meat heads keeps injecting shit like there are no consequences. They will most likely delete my post anyway.
What kind of " health problem" is the most common amongst pros?????????
fucking lunatics.
So how do you explain protein in my urine? I have had this condition since I was a kid, with no health problems what so ever, and no kidney probs! My doc told me it is completely normal for some people, especially athletes, and bb'ers. I first noticed it when I was 18 in the Marine Corps, and doing hardcore PT. It has not changed since the use of tren. Show some studies otherwise your as bad as the people you bitch about, doing nothing other than spreading bro logic.
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Alex, why are you complaining about having your post here deleted?
I don't think I've ever removed one of your post...if I have I don't remember and it was probably a one time thing. As for the other Mods, doubtful they've removed many.
The only time a post gets removed is if it is because of blatant source related posting, or incessant personal attacks.
As for your concerns about tren. You're right, it is possible for tren to cause problems. Rare but possible. Typically, someone who has problems arise from tren occurs because they ran it non stop for an insanely long period, i.e. 20+wks. Most who stick to 6-8wk stints stay safe and healthy.
I've run tren for as long as 12 straight wks, almost no problems. I had some prolactin buildup because of this but nothing major. Nothing that cannot be remedied with a low dose of Cytomel or Dostinex.
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Alex, why are you complaining about having your post here deleted?
I don't think I've ever removed one of your post...if I have I don't remember and it was probably a one time thing. As for the other Mods, doubtful they've removed many.
The only time a post gets removed is if it is because of blatant source related posting, or incessant personal attacks.
As for your concerns about tren. You're right, it is possible for tren to cause problems. Rare but possible. Typically, someone who has problems arise from tren occurs because they ran it non stop for an insanely long period, i.e. 20+wks. Most who stick to 6-8wk stints stay safe and healthy.
I've run tren for as long as 12 straight wks, almost no problems. I had some prolactin buildup because of this but nothing major. Nothing that cannot be remedied with a low dose of Cytomel or Dostinex.
You are a small but chemically lucky man (Lori and Tony said it, not me).
I have seen 6 weeksers with brutal creatinine levels and the uralisys listed above.
5 out of 7-9? Make your odds.
Doesn't look good to me.
I would dump the Benzyl alcohol/Benzyl benzoate loaded horse/cow crap faster than a warted whore.
It's just me.
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Not on this board jt. The juicer no face mods have it for me here. They'll delete it.
I'll post somewhere else.
I'll ask again. Please explain how the mods have it in for you?
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Actually, THIS is the best reply of the month Onetimehard.
A bunch of charlatans thinking they know it all.
I've seen the cycles. I've seen the damages.
I have 2 doctors in my families to who I referred small time juicers with minor problems following tren regiments.
They all showed up with proteinuria, urinary red blood cell counts that were 25+ (which hits the "check for a tumor" range), the "normal" is 0-5.
but yet, the meat heads keeps injecting shit like there are no consequences. They will most likely delete my post anyway.
What kind of " health problem" is the most common amongst pros?????????
fucking lunatics.
Why would this get deleted? Other then you being a little bit of a smart ass (which is fine) there's nothing wrong with that post.
Tren can be & is hard on the kidney's - so some who use it have problems & some who use it don't.
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You are a small but chemically lucky man (Lori and Tony said it, not me).
So, is that a compliment or a shot at my Championess?
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how about everybody stop drama?
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how about everybody stop drama?
Can't help it. I'm loaded up on tren and that naturally causes drama. At least that's what I read on Wikipedia. :-X
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how about everybody stop drama?
What drama?
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Can't help it. I'm loaded up on tren and that naturally causes drama. At least that's what I read on Wikipedia. :-X
& we all know Wikipedia is gospel. ;)
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What drama?
:)
& we all know Wikipedia is gospel. ;)
there's always dizzle ::)
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of course it is, I mean thats what dizzle quotes all the time!
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wow. arguing that tren isnt harmful. even dan duchaine said nobody should ever use tren unless they are a serious competitive bodybuilder. even IP warns his customers about tren. lol.
i like steroids.
but im no fool; and i dont deny their harmful effects.
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wow. arguing that tren isnt harmful. even dan duchaine said nobody should ever use tren unless they are a serious competitive bodybuilder. even IP warns his customers about tren. lol.
i like steroids.
but im no fool; and i dont deny their harmful effects.
Yet you've said over & over you'll do whatever it takes to get huge & be a bodybuilder (caution be damned) no matter the consequences.
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Yet you've said over & over you'll do whatever it takes to get huge & be a bodybuilder (caution be damned) no matter the consequences.
i didnt say id do whatever it takles to get huge
i said ill do what i think is necessary to achieve the physique i want
theres a little bit of a difference there
it has nothing to do with being "huge" really
anyways, im not sure what you mean. in essence here is what i said "steroids build muscle. but they do cause health issues"
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i didnt say id do whatever it takles to get huge
i said ill do what i think is necessary to achieve the physique i want
theres a little bit of a difference there
it has nothing to do with being "huge" really
anyways, im not sure what you mean. in essence here is what i said "steroids build muscle. but they do cause health issues"
What's so hard. You don't seem worried about possible consequences of your actions.
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What's so hard. You don't seem worried about possible consequences of your actions.
sure i am. i just dont deny them. it would be better to say " im going to be perfectly OKAY doing steroids. they arent harmful." than to say " i understand there are negative side effects associated with steroids. but i am willing to accept those side effects."
of course i worry
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sure i am. i just dont deny them. it would be better to say " im going to be perfectly OKAY doing steroids. they arent harmful." than to say " i understand there are negative side effects associated with steroids. but i am willing to accept those side effects."
of course i worry
Well, you don't act like it. However, I suppose it's not your fault when I was 19 I was the same way (before you fly off the handle & wish death upon my family & such that wasn't an insult).
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I think this thread should be locked or deleted, better than continuing the drama
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Well, you don't act like it. However, I suppose it's not your fault when I was 19 I was the same way (before you fly off the handle & wish death upon my family & such that wasn't an insult).
overload deserved that. lol.
i didnt take it as an insult.
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Why does every single thread result in argument with Candidizzle. The subject gets changed and I'm sure it gets confusing for someone who actually is seeking positive advise from this board, no offence but you mods are not doing a good job, enough with the bickering already.
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I tend to think the negative affects of tren are blown out of proportion. I dont think there are any studies showing convincing kidney problems with the use of tren, and have experienced none myself. I do not in any way think steroids are perfectly safe, I do how ever think through education, proper ancillaries, and smart dosages you can safely use them.
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overload deserved that.
It's easy to threaten my family on the internet.
Be a man for once.
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I tend to think the negative affects of tren are blown out of proportion. I dont think there are any studies showing convincing kidney problems with the use of tren, and have experienced none myself. I do not in any way think steroids are perfectly safe, I do how ever think through education, proper ancillaries, and smart dosages you can safely use them.
There aren't any studies because Tren isn't supposed to be used in humans, not to mention there are no long term studies on heavy AAS usage in humans either because of their scheduled status, so we can really only go by what we experience ourselves. I have heard of some guys who've run tren over the years develop liver ulcers which couldn't be directly linked to Tren usage, but they felt it was. Even though I haven't experienced that myself, I'm fully aware it can happen and thus why I really only run Tren very infrequently.
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It's easy to threaten my family on the internet.
Be a man for once.
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i didnt threaten them. i said i hoped something would happen to them :D
what, are you calling me out overload? sounds to me like your saying you would like to settle your greivances face to face. let me know when your in cali bro :)
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wow your gonna beat everyone up aren't you! Superdizzle.
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i didnt threaten them. i said i hoped something would happen to them :D
what, are you calling me out overload? sounds to me like your saying you would like to settle your greivances face to face. let me know when your in cali bro :)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... ;D
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There aren't any studies because Tren isn't supposed to be used in humans, not to mention there are no long term studies on heavy AAS usage in humans either because of their scheduled status, so we can really only go by what we experience ourselves. I have heard of some guys who've run tren over the years develop liver ulcers which couldn't be directly linked to Tren usage, but they felt it was. Even though I haven't experienced that myself, I'm fully aware it can happen and thus why I really only run Tren very infrequently.
That's another good point.
You can find information about anavar, test and other steroids but things like tren and EQ weren't meant for humans. As far as the damage is concerned, we have people who've seen a friend of a friend run tren and get hurt. Conversely, there are others who've seen a friend of a friend use tren for years and not run into damage. I'd say that as long as someone's responsible and monitors their cycle, they aren't as much more of a risk than if they just ran some other steroids.
There are ALWAYS people who will have sky rocketing blood pressure, liver values, kidney damage or other cardiovascular damage. While steroids can be used in a relatively safe manner, that doesn't make us exempt from issues. But I mean, fuck, I take the same risk when I pop an aspirin for my headache. Is it that you people are very concerned for everyone's well being or do you just like arguing with Candi? He's far from a guru at this point, but he does know a ton more than a lot of you. Instead of attacking his posts maybe you can propose your rebuttal or disagreement without melting down and shitting yourselves. Hope this helps.
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Is it that you people are very concerned for everyone's well being or do you just like arguing with Candi? He's far from a guru at this point, but he does know a ton more than a lot of you. Instead of attacking his posts maybe you can propose your rebuttal or disagreement without melting down and shitting yourselves. Hope this helps.
dustin , thank you bro, but thats just the way everybody here at getbig (with a FEW exceptions...and youll find that those exceptions RARELY if ever post here) operates.
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You can find information about anavar, test and other steroids but things like tren and EQ weren't meant for humans. As far as the damage is concerned, we have people who've seen a friend of a friend run tren and get hurt. Conversely, there are others who've seen a friend of a friend use tren for years and not run into damage. I'd say that as long as someone's responsible and monitors their cycle, they aren't as much more of a risk than if they just ran some other steroids.
There are ALWAYS people who will have sky rocketing blood pressure, liver values, kidney damage or other cardiovascular damage. While steroids can be used in a relatively safe manner, that doesn't make us exempt from issues. But I mean, fuck, I take the same risk when I pop an aspirin for my headache.
Genetic predisposition determines how the body reacts to certain compounds.
Some people can tolerate certain AAS without any sides at all, even after longterm use, but others get severe sides and should obviously not be using them.
There is no golden rule here.
DIV
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back to the task at hand.......
for skipope007
stick with the tren e....tren a is great, but for best effect...running it ED....pin cushion city
drop the winni and run the tren e at 300 - 500 mgs a week with the test/eq/ dbol shoot the tren e as you would eq...or test, 2X a week
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That's another good point.
You can find information about anavar, test and other steroids but things like tren and EQ weren't meant for humans. As far as the damage is concerned, we have people who've seen a friend of a friend run tren and get hurt. Conversely, there are others who've seen a friend of a friend use tren for years and not run into damage. I'd say that as long as someone's responsible and monitors their cycle, they aren't as much more of a risk than if they just ran some other steroids.
There are ALWAYS people who will have sky rocketing blood pressure, liver values, kidney damage or other cardiovascular damage. While steroids can be used in a relatively safe manner, that doesn't make us exempt from issues. But I mean, fuck, I take the same risk when I pop an aspirin for my headache. Is it that you people are very concerned for everyone's well being or do you just like arguing with Candi? He's far from a guru at this point, but he does know a ton more than a lot of you. Instead of attacking his posts maybe you can propose your rebuttal or disagreement without melting down and shitting yourselves. Hope this helps.
Stick to one account Taylor.
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Stick to one account Taylor.
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yeah, you got me. thats my gimmick. ;)
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Genetic predisposition determines how the body reacts to certain compounds.
Some people can tolerate certain AAS without any sides at all, even after longterm use, but others get severe sides and should obviously not be using them.
There is no golden rule here.
DIV
I believe this to be true. I've seen people cycle the most crazy compounds, chewing down drol and pinning everything without concern... and when they get their blood tests back, their doctors present nothing of grave concern. They just ask if they're on the sauce. Lucky bastards!
Stick to one account Taylor.
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Naw. I post on bodybuilding.com and sadly have over 10,000 posts as I've been posting from work for the past few years. I've been lurking for the past two or three years here and finally decided to join. Ron took like half a year to approve my login and I almost forgot that I tried registering.
Can't find any good pics on my hard drive because I feel pinner, apprehensive and very un photogenic. Here's a shot of my back from the first time I hit 180lbs. Taken a year ago so I have more width, bigger arms, delts and more detail in my back though.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/500/medium/03-20-07_1419.jpg)
Don't mean to pull a seveste or anything. I can try taking some new pictures if you don't believe me. Hit 200lbs and dropped down to 190lbs. Sat their for a few months after my last PCT then got a brutal cold from my sister in law. Sitting anywhere between 170-180lbs and cutting harder than I ever have before. Gonna hit some test/tren soon so I will definitely post some pictures then. I feel too pinner at the moment, but once I get shredded I won't have to diet so hard in the future. Spent too much time dirty bulking on twinkies, chocolate milk and sugar laden weight gainers. :(
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I believe this to be true. I've seen people cycle the most crazy compounds, chewing down drol and pinning everything without concern... and when they get their blood tests back, their doctors present nothing of grave concern. They just ask if they're on the sauce. Lucky bastards!
Naw. I post on bodybuilding.com and sadly have over 10,000 posts as I've been posting from work for the past few years. I've been lurking for the past two or three years here and finally decided to join. Ron took like half a year to approve my login and I almost forgot that I tried registering.
Can't find any good pics on my hard drive because I feel pinner, apprehensive and very un photogenic. Here's a shot of my back from the first time I hit 180lbs. Taken a year ago so I have more width, bigger arms, delts and more detail in my back though.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/500/medium/03-20-07_1419.jpg)
Don't mean to pull a seveste or anything. I can try taking some new pictures if you don't believe me. Hit 200lbs and dropped down to 190lbs. Sat their for a few months after my last PCT then got a brutal cold from my sister in law. Sitting anywhere between 170-180lbs and cutting harder than I ever have before. Gonna hit some test/tren soon so I will definitely post some pictures then. I feel too pinner at the moment, but once I get shredded I won't have to diet so hard in the future. Spent too much time dirty bulking on twinkies, chocolate milk and sugar laden weight gainers. :(
Your not naked or in a towel with man parts hanging out, its OK bro! ;D
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Fair enough.
It's odd that half your posts are backing up candi on every board, and you both post at the EXACT same time, every day.
Good luck with your friendship.
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back to the task at hand.......
for skipope007
stick with the tren e....tren a is great, but for best effect...running it ED....pin cushion city
drop the winni and run the tren e at 300 - 500 mgs a week with the test/eq/ dbol shoot the tren e as you would eq...or test, 2X a week
Thanks for the on thread advice. I really don't like pinning myself more than necssary it gets painful. I'll def do it 2x a week. Why drop the winnie though?
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Fair enough.
It's odd that half your posts are backing up candi on every board, and you both post at the EXACT same time, every day.
Good luck with your friendship.
8)
I sort of noticed that too lol
Honestly, I tried hard to register again because I actually disagreed with a lot of his posts. He was melting down and the one thing that pissed me off more than anything was his protein/thermogenesis tangents. I emailed Ron again to ask why the hell my name wasn't registered because I was eager to get on here and start flaming.. but then the flames subsided, he calmed down a little and is acting a little bit more humble. I was actually enraged by some of his posts and irritated more than anyone has ever irritated me on the internet, and I wasn't even registered yet, but he calmed down and I also lost the poor attitude. I noticed that not everyone on this site is an asshole, just many people.
The kid gets a lot of shit and I honestly hated him for a long time. But now I've come to respect him quite a bit. He's come a long way and is far more knowledgeable than I would have expected him to become. I find myself in agreement with him 9/10 times now. My only quarrel now is his horrible touch typing hahaha... candi, bro, install Firefox like me! Not only is it more secure but it's got a built in spell checker. De de mow!! 8)
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dustin, how dare you insult my typing, you are my gimmick !!! :D
lol ;)
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I sort of noticed that too lol
Honestly, I tried hard to register again because I actually disagreed with a lot of his posts. He was melting down and the one thing that pissed me off more than anything was his protein/thermogenesis tangents. I emailed Ron again to ask why the hell my name wasn't registered because I was eager to get on here and start flaming.. but then the flames subsided, he calmed down a little and is acting a little bit more humble. I was actually enraged by some of his posts and irritated more than anyone has ever irritated me on the internet, and I wasn't even registered yet, but he calmed down and I also lost the poor attitude. I noticed that not everyone on this site is an asshole, just many people.
The kid gets a lot of shit and I honestly hated him for a long time. But now I've come to respect him quite a bit. He's come a long way and is far more knowledgeable than I would have expected him to become. I find myself in agreement with him 9/10 times now. My only quarrel now is his horrible touch typing hahaha... candi, bro, install Firefox like me! Not only is it more secure but it's got a built in spell checker. De de mow!! 8)
The great majority of people on the hardcore boards are good to go. Bad behavior will not be tolerated here for long. Anyways welcome to the boards D!
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Thanks for the on thread advice. I really don't like pinning myself more than necssary it gets painful. I'll def do it 2x a week. Why drop the winnie though?
personally...i think winni is poo
i think youll be very happy with a dbol, test, eq, tren e stack.....just dont really see the need for it.