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Title: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:28:28 AM
...a warrior, etc.

Given his recent acts, anyone here think differently?

I do.

I think he thinks it's "All about him..."

and he  really doesn't care about the Packers or his family at all.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on July 27, 2008, 08:30:18 AM
He can't let go
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Bast000 on July 27, 2008, 08:32:51 AM
A man of honor because he's exceptional at running in circles and throwing a football?    Epic standards you have.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:34:34 AM
A man of honor because he's exceptional at running in circles and throwing a football?    Epic standards you have.

Think a bit deeper, if you can, "epic" man.

Honor in his decision making processes, and how they effect so very many other people.

Everyone has value in what they do...

from the 'Shit shovelor from Sheboygan'

To the cancer researcher.

Grow up, junior.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: XFACTOR on July 27, 2008, 08:35:29 AM
A man of honor because he's exceptional at running in circles and throwing a football?    Epic standards you have.

No, he's a good leader.  Big difference.  Mike Vick great at running in circles throwing the ball.  Brett does that and is a leader and spokesperson for the league.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: danielson on July 27, 2008, 08:36:14 AM
...a warrior, etc.

Given his recent acts, anyone here think differently?

I do.

I think he thinks it's "All about him..."

and he  really doesn't care about the Packers or his family at all.

I agree with you in a way, Barry Sanders fucked us right before training camp years back. Different situation, but I lost respect for him as well.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: nicky.smth on July 27, 2008, 08:37:03 AM
I think he retired cause he was mad that the packers didn't get him more weapons, so he retired...


Toughest son of a bitch to play the game..Never missed a game at the QB poistion..
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:38:10 AM
No, he's a good leader.  Big difference.  Mike Vick great at running in circles throwing the ball.  Brett does that and is a leader and spokesperson for the league.

Agreed, I just hope he makes the best decision for all and to protect his legacy
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: XFACTOR on July 27, 2008, 08:38:50 AM
Agreed, I just hope he makes the best decision for all and to protect his legacy

I think he's going to the Bucs.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:39:02 AM
I agree with you in a way, Barry Sanders fucked us right before training camp years back. Different situation, but I lost respect for him as well.

Wasn't that more bc he was tired the team would not erect a winning team/ better players around him?
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: QuakerOats on July 27, 2008, 08:39:50 AM
what i don't understand is why Green Bay won't give him a chance after the great year he had last year.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:40:03 AM
I think he retired cause he was mad that the packers didn't get him more weapons, so he retired...


Toughest son of a bitch to play the game..Never missed a game at the QB poistion..


Mmmmm...Ida know....they were good....made the NFC champ game and almost won it...he may be using that as a smoke screen
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: XFACTOR on July 27, 2008, 08:40:51 AM
I agree with you in a way, Barry Sanders fucked us right before training camp years back. Different situation, but I lost respect for him as well.

Fuck I loved that dude.  My favorite running back to watch play, and I'm a Cowboys fan that had Emmitt.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:40:57 AM
I think he's going to the Bucs.


Sounds like the Jets are heavy for him, as well....that could be the breeding ground of tragedy for poor old Brett if he chooses gang green
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: XFACTOR on July 27, 2008, 08:43:07 AM

Sounds like the Jets are heavy for him, as well....that could be the breeding ground of tragedy for poor old Brett if he chooses gang green

You from Wisc?
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:43:16 AM
what i don't understand is why Green Bay won't give him a chance after the great year he had last year.

Hate to say it, but its like a team taking Barry Bonds on.

I laughed recently bc they said Bonds may go to the Yanks.

His frowning, miserable premadonna show would never, ever float with the players and the NY media. He'd be too much the distraction and be run out of there.

Favre may become just that in GB now, unfortuately. A distraction they don't want.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:43:53 AM
You from Wisc?

No, spent Summers there while in College in Illinois.

I am from CT and live here now
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Fury on July 27, 2008, 08:44:19 AM
what i don't understand is why Green Bay won't give him a chance after the great year he had last year.

Great regular season player. Hasn't done anything but hurt the Packers in the playoffs in the last five years.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: QuakerOats on July 27, 2008, 08:44:42 AM
4155 yards, 28 TD's and a 95.7 QB rating for 2007, i'd say that combined with his legendary standing in the game earns him another year with the Packers.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Bast000 on July 27, 2008, 08:45:55 AM
Brett Farve is a great spokesperson for the league because he's a white, older, All American type guy and a lot of fans can relate to him.  I don't see how he's a good speaker.  Well when you compare him to most other pro athletes who speak ebonics, sure.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Zach Trowbridge on July 27, 2008, 08:46:10 AM
what i don't understand is why Green Bay won't give him a chance after the great year he had last year.

Because he's an asshat who can't make up his mind, and they don't want to put up with him wanting to play football this Tuesday, but not next Friday.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:47:40 AM
4155 yards, 28 TD's and a 95.7 QB rating for 2007, i'd say that combined with his legendary standing in the game earns him another year with the Packers.

Yes, and gives VERY bad bogue to the next guy, Aaron Rodgers...so they may be sacrificing their future for one more questionable year with BF
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: XFACTOR on July 27, 2008, 08:48:37 AM
4155 yards, 28 TD's and a 95.7 QB rating for 2007, i'd say that combined with his legendary standing in the game earns him another year with the Packers.

 True.  But I think the management was upset that he choked in that game against the Giants in the playoffs.

Rogers is good man, he came in for two quarters against my Cowboys last year and lit them up.  I'm 50/50 on this.  Bret is awesome but Rogers is the future.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:50:04 AM
Because he's an asshat who can't make up his mind, and they don't want to put up with him wanting to play football this Tuesday, but not next Friday.

Don't be surprised if you 'somehow' hear that he is, again, addicted to painkiller drugs.

You'd be surprised how these rumors are seeded to dissuade certain folks from making moves the powers that be prefer they not make
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Fury on July 27, 2008, 08:50:38 AM
Favre's an asshole. He paralyzes the team every offseason with this shit. "Is he going to retire, is he not" It's pretty selfish to keep jerking an entire organization around like that year after year. Man up, make a decision and stick with it. He should have some respect for his teammates and stop trying to shit all over their season every year by doing this.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:51:00 AM
True.  But I think the management was upset that he choked in that game against the Giants in the playoffs.

Rogers is good man, he came in for two quarters against my Cowboys last year and lit them up.  I'm 50/50 on this.  Bret is awesome but Rogers is the future.

VG and true post...altho I am anti-cowboys (Can't stand what they did to Tom Landry) ;D
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: 240 is Back on July 27, 2008, 08:51:38 AM
one more deep threat, and the packers would have been in the super bowl.

mgmt passed on a chance to get a threat (walker?) and favre retired out of anger.

Look, sometimes you want to try something new.  You can't tell me you don't see hot girls at the mall you'd like to bang.  Maybe he sees #25 on the Vikings and knows how deadly he'd be passing with a legit runner like A.P. freezing the D line every time.  Maybe he just wants a change of pace.  I say let him.  He's earned it.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: XFACTOR on July 27, 2008, 08:52:02 AM
Favre's an asshole. He paralyzes the team every offseason with this shit. "Is he going to retire, is he not" It's pretty selfish to keep jerking an entire organization around like that year after year. Man up, make a decision and stick with it. He should have some respect for his teammates and stop trying to shit all over their season every year by doing this.

Good point.  Yeah if that's my tam I go with Rodgers, just on principal alone.  Not cool to jerk the team around like that.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:52:47 AM
Favre's an asshole. He paralyzes the team every offseason with this shit. "Is he going to retire, is he not" It's pretty selfish to keep jerking an entire organization around like that year after year. Man up, make a decision and stick with it. He should have some respect for his teammates and stop trying to shit all over their season every year by doing this.

Yes. Our top sportswriter in Greater New Haven recently wrote that he thinks Favre is the most selfish/egocentric athlete ever in the way he has been holding the Pack 'Hostage' every year with the 'will he or won't he stuff...'

And I for one like Favre, just can't figger his deal out here
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Earl1972 on July 27, 2008, 08:53:12 AM
...a warrior, etc.

Given his recent acts, anyone here think differently?

I do.

I think he thinks it's "All about him..."

and he  really doesn't care about the Packers or his family at all.

i said this when aaron rodgers was drafted a few years ago

people finally agree with me 8)

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Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:54:33 AM
i said this when aaron rodgers was drafted a few years ago

people finally agree with me 8)

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Didn't Favre say something like, "I am not his (rodgers) babysitter...ain't up to me to teach him nothin'...
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: XFACTOR on July 27, 2008, 08:55:15 AM
VG and true post...altho I am anti-cowboys (Can't stand what they did to Tom Landry) ;D

Most are anti-cowboys, except Plano and Dallas. None at all here in Canada.   :-[
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:56:09 AM
Most are anti-cowboys, except Plano and Dallas. None at all here in Canada.   :-[

You mean almost everywhere?

I actually love when they play Giants....or, anybody in NFC East....best division in all of NFL
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Fury on July 27, 2008, 08:56:19 AM
Most are anti-cowboys, except Plano and Dallas. None at all here in Canada.   :-[

Does it still sting knowing the Boys beat the Giants twice during the regular season and shit the bed when it mattered most?  ;D

G-Men baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Bast000 on July 27, 2008, 08:57:22 AM
Think a bit deeper, if you can, "epic" man.

Honor in his decision making processes, and how they effect so very many other people.

Everyone has value in what they do...

from the 'Shit shovelor from Sheboygan'

To the cancer researcher.

Grow up, junior.

Don't cry about it; like brett farve has done many times.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 08:57:30 AM
Does it still sting knowing the Boys beat the Giants twice during the regular season and shit the bed when it mattered most.  ;D

G-Men baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since all NFL players are better than me, I don't bust on any of 'em ;)
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Earl1972 on July 27, 2008, 08:57:36 AM
Didn't Favre say something like, "I am not his (rodgers) babysitter...ain't up to me to teach him nothin'...

exactly and espn still talked about him like a god ::)

the steelers for years tried to replace jerome bettis but he still went out of his way to help the guys trying to take his job

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Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: QuakerOats on July 27, 2008, 08:57:39 AM
gotta hand it to 'em the Giants played like a team possessed for the last few games of the season.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Fury on July 27, 2008, 08:58:44 AM
Since all NFL players are better than me, I don't bust on any of 'em ;)

Not busting on the players, just their fans.  ;)
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 09:02:06 AM
exactly and espn still talked about him like a god ::)

the steelers for years tried to replace jerome bettis but he still went out of his way to help the guys trying to take his job

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I live right near ESPN.

They have a VERY bad rep here in the community...in bars and restaurants, etc.

When they had that big NBA fracas...where the Pacers players beat up the crowd in the stands....the guys in the studio (Two black, one white announcers, got their faces in my head, don't recall names) IMMEDIATELY defended the players on air and ripped the fans.

They sounded VERY bad and bisased in doing so.

After commercial, they apologized and scolded the players and themselves.

Word was that the head of ESPN called the studio and flipped out and gav e word that the anchors were not to vere be so biased on the players sides...ever.

This was in all the papers the following day.

Beware the spin. I got tons of these stories from my relationships with area press people.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Bast000 on July 27, 2008, 09:02:16 AM
exactly and espn still talked about him like a god ::)


do you know why a lot of men really like Brett Farve? 

they're gay.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 09:02:49 AM
Not busting on the players, just their fans.  ;)

gotcha
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: XFACTOR on July 27, 2008, 09:06:52 AM
Does it still sting knowing the Boys beat the Giants twice during the regular season and shit the bed when it mattered most?  ;D

G-Men baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In one word. YES
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 09:08:22 AM
In one word. YES

Always ask an honest and busy man to do something fdor you.

Why?

He'll do it for you.

That's is why he is honest and busy.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: HeyNow on July 27, 2008, 09:11:12 AM
I am originally from Green Bay, I bleed green and gold.  I would hate to see Brett go elsewhere, the Packer organization is making a huge mistake. He is the face of the franchise. He has done so much for the the community and the team, it is sad he is getting the shaft for an injury prone quarterback. IT makes me sick. however I do wish Brett would have not jumped the gun. this is tarnishing him rep, but only for people who are not Brett fans.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: divcom on July 27, 2008, 09:11:30 AM
...a warrior, etc.

Given his recent acts, anyone here think differently?

I do.

I think he thinks it's "All about him..."

and he  really doesn't care about the Packers or his family at all.

who cares?  worthless media BS.  just go and play football somewhere.  end of story.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: XFACTOR on July 27, 2008, 09:11:54 AM
Always ask an honest and busy man to do something fdor you.

Why?

He'll do it for you.

That's is why he is honest and busy.

Today I'm good, listening to a Jack Welch audio book and posting.  I like these audio books, been buying a lot of them.  Allows me to multi-task
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: pumpster on July 27, 2008, 09:17:20 AM
I agree with you in a way, Barry Sanders fucked us right before training camp years back. Different situation, but I lost respect for him as well.

Agreed on both counts; most didn't notice and forgot that about Sanders, who i never felt was a team player or someone who would ever be a on a winning team.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 09:18:41 AM
Today I'm good, listening to a Jack Welch audio book and posting.  I like these audio books, been buying a lot of them.  Allows me to multi-task

Neutron Jack it is

listen to them in my car all the time...tough to read books these days due to business
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: pumpster on July 27, 2008, 09:20:29 AM
I think he retired cause he was mad that the packers didn't get him more weapons, so he retired...


Toughest son of a bitch to play the game..Never missed a game at the QB poistion..

Actually Bradshaw and others were as tough or tougher.

The Packers gave him plent of weapons, bottom line he lost their last game himself with another stupid call. He's incredibly hyped, was never the best QB of any era.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: pumpster on July 27, 2008, 09:22:39 AM
4155 yards, 28 TD's and a 95.7 QB rating for 2007, i'd say that combined with his legendary standing in the game earns him another year with the Packers.

Just stats, he lost the last game for them with a dumb play. His replacement has been waiting patiently and deserves the shot, plus quite frankly they're tired of him going back and forth unable to make up his mind and yanking the team around as a result. I don't blame them at all.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 09:23:48 AM
Actually Bradshaw and others were as tough or tougher.

The Packers gave him plent of weapons, bottom line he lost their last game himself with another stupid call. He's incredibly hyped, was never the best QB of any era.

#s wise the best

But right, not vest ever

Yes....guys like Bednarik who'd lose their teeth and keep playing and went with leather fucking helmets and no face masks were tougher in my book
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 09:26:19 AM
Just stats, he lost the last game for them with a dumb play. His replacement has been waiting patiently and deserves the shot, plus quite frankly they're tired of him going back and forth unable to make up his mind and yanking the team around as a result. I don't blame them at all.

This is the selfish and disrespctful part of it all.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: tommywishbone on July 27, 2008, 09:43:49 AM
It's just hard to let it go sometimes man. MJ you should know this.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: HeyNow on July 27, 2008, 09:47:35 AM
That play contributed to the loss, what about Al Harris giving up 15 receptions to Plexico Burris?  It's a team loss you idiot not just one play.  The team lost it not just one play. Offensive line was bad, defence was terrible Brett was not on.  It was a team loss.  You know nothing son.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Royalty on July 27, 2008, 10:40:50 AM
That play contributed to the loss, what about Al Harris giving up 15 receptions to Plexico Burris?  It's a team loss you idiot not just one play.  The team lost it not just one play. Offensive line was bad, defence was terrible Brett was not on.  It was a team loss.  You know nothing son.


Plaxico had a MONSTER game that day. He was all over Harris and Harris could do nothing. The temp was -2 degrees that night. Awesome game.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Rimbaud on July 27, 2008, 10:43:48 AM
I agree with you in a way, Barry Sanders fucked us right before training camp years back. Different situation, but I lost respect for him as well.

Agreed.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Earl1972 on July 27, 2008, 11:12:30 AM
If the Packers don't want to let him play and start, and have decided to move on with the other guy that's fine, that's their call, but why then won't they release him to play for someone else?  Seems to me the Packers are the ones being dicks here.

maybe they don't want him playing for another team and possibly beating them ::)

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Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: danielson on July 27, 2008, 01:25:53 PM
Wasn't that more bc he was tired the team would not erect a winning team/ better players around him?

Yeah, but he announced his retirement just a few days prior to training camp.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: arce377 on July 27, 2008, 01:33:22 PM
Favre is all about Favre.  :(
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: The Master on July 27, 2008, 01:33:42 PM
Favre is all about Favre.  :(


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ttt

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Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Red Hook on July 27, 2008, 01:39:13 PM
Favre is all about Favre.  :(


look at it this, the average NFL player has a career of less than 3 years. Their contracts are not guaranteed, and the minute that a player is injured he gets cut by the team.  I don't see anyone screeming about how selfish the owners are.

As a matter of fact the NFL has the worse pension and health plan amongst all major sports. There are countless stories of ex-players with serious medical issues and no money.


yet, the average person calls the players selfish.. :-\
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 27, 2008, 02:11:50 PM
It's just hard to let it go sometimes man. MJ you should know this.

Haha, yes, I do indeed.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Earl1972 on July 27, 2008, 04:01:19 PM

Well, then they should start him on their team.   Again, their call, but they can't have it both ways..."we won't play you on the Packers, but you can't play for anyone else either".  ::)

they moved on after he shed tears and said "I have nothing left to give" ::)

you can't quit a job and then decide months later that you want to come back when they already moved forward and replaced you

allowing him to play for another team would be stupid unless they got a 1st round pick

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Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Camel Jockey on July 27, 2008, 04:04:37 PM
...a warrior, etc.

Given his recent acts, anyone here think differently?

I do.

I think he thinks it's "All about him..."

and he  really doesn't care about the Packers or his family at all.

He wants to continue to play without being a backup.

What's wrong with that?  ::)
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Tom on July 27, 2008, 04:11:11 PM
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FAVRE ANYMORE!!! i mean damn, can't he make up his mind ever! sometimes you have to think more about the team and the community and organization then yourself! you had many moments in the sun, now end it already!

i just think something has to be said about a man who goes on and on about retiring and this is it and changes his mind 3 months later?! huh?! it would be different if he was 25 or 30 and left the game for 2,3,4 years and THEN GOT THE ITCH TO PLAY AGAIN AND WAS STILL YOUNG!  but now at 38 and 3 months later he changes his mind and also the fact is that he's been hedging about retiring for how many years now?

AND SPEAKING ABOUT FAVRE BEING A SHINING EXAMPLE OF A HUMAN BEING UM....
 wasn't it true that not only did he have an "addiction" problem, but back in the day he was a bar hopping, skirt chasing lech! along with his buddy mark chmura and the other teammate that they were VERY WELL KNOWN for their "after hour" shenanigans and were not affectionately called "the three amigos"!

but hey he's a great quarterback for the green bay packers and that team is worshipped in all of wisconsin and he donates money and time to charities, who cares what he does off the field and behind and not so behind closed doors! oh brother!
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Bauce Major on July 27, 2008, 04:15:28 PM
favre = most overrated player in nfl history

thank god desmond howard won him that super bowl.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Earl1972 on July 27, 2008, 04:30:57 PM

Agreed, but that doesn't mean you can't submit your resume to competitors.

he's under contract

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Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Cap on July 27, 2008, 04:34:25 PM
Can't fault a guy for wanting to play when he still can.  The guy is a warrior.  The Packers passed up so many good weapons and draft picks and constantly leaned on Favre to win but one person can only do so much.  Not going after Moss was just one in a number of mistakes in the Packers' organization (and that's my team). 

The guy is the toughest in the SOB in the league and they ma end up regretting going with Rodgers who was nothing special in college anyway, hence his draft position.

Plus, we don't know everything going on in the org.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Earl1972 on July 27, 2008, 04:38:02 PM

So what's that mean, they still have to pay him even if he's not playing?

i'm not sure, i don't know if he has to be reinstated or not but they own his rights and he can't play for another team unless he is released or traded

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Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: 240 is Back on July 27, 2008, 04:44:15 PM
yeah, he can go back to the pack and get his $18 mil or whatever.  he'll be the #2 QB and get his paycheck.

The pack fans would go absolutely apeshit if they started 0-3 while dickhead Erin [sic] Rodgers throwing 3 picks a week while a freshly rested HOFer who had one of his best seasons last year, sits on the bench.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Fury on July 27, 2008, 04:44:33 PM
i'm not sure, i don't know if he has to be reinstated or not but they own his rights and he can't play for another team unless he is released or traded

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He has to apply for reinstatement, which as far as I know, he hasn't done yet. I think he was supposed to do it Friday but I'm not sure. I think if he gets reinstated, he is still contractually obligated to the Packers.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: TechnoViking on July 27, 2008, 06:11:56 PM
Are the rumors true that Favre never did kick his pain killer addiction and that the NFL just swept it under the rug and protected him? It would make sence that his behavior is so up and down...Some have even stated that he hates practice and would always show up high...You wonder how full of drugs he was when he fcked up his shoulder last year but still played...Some people have stated that the guy couldn't even form a sentence...The guy did have some serious natural talent to play the game of football...I will give him that...

They say Brady and Manning actually love to practice...They are usually the first there and the last to leave...These two guys have a true love for the game and will be coach material after there playing days are over...Brett Favre will be looking back at his career for the rest of his life and maybe some pregame show will hire him for min/talking advice...While Brady and Manning will go on to win at what ever else they decide to do...

I could see far winding up like Marino with a hidden coke addiction taking jabs from nobodies about throwing interceptions and losing big games...Its hard to take a grown man serious while he is wearing a pair of wranglers...Look at Dale Jr.  The guy is half retarded...
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Beefjake on July 28, 2008, 12:22:00 AM

So what's that mean, they still have to pay him even if he's not playing?

Yes - if he gets back.

In one interwiev BF said that he'd like to check that GB bluff. Making him hold the clipboard with a cap and paying him 12million a year to do so.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: tu_holmes on July 28, 2008, 12:29:37 AM
Yes - if he gets back.

In one interwiev BF said that he'd like to check that GB bluff. Making him hold the clipboard with a cap and paying him 12million a year to do so.

I would too... Only a dumbass owner would let that much salary sit on the sidelines and call in plays or whatever.

Can you imagine how stupid that is?

Think of how many really good players you can get for 12 million a year.

Insanity.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 28, 2008, 05:25:47 AM
Are the rumors true that Favre never did kick his pain killer addiction and that the NFL just swept it under the rug and protected him? It would make sence that his behavior is so up and down...Some have even stated that he hates practice and would always show up high...You wonder how full of drugs he was when he fcked up his shoulder last year but still played...Some people have stated that the guy couldn't even form a sentence...The guy did have some serious natural talent to play the game of football...I will give him that...

The say Brady and Manning actually love to practice...They are usually the first there and the first to leave...These two guys have a true love for the game and will be coach material after there playing days are over...Brett Favre will be looking back at his career for the rest of his life and maybe some pregame show will hire him for min/talking advice...While Brady and Manning will go on to win at what ever else they decide to do...

I could see far winding up like Marino with a hidden coke addiction taking jabs from nobodies about throwing interceptions and losing big games...Its hard to take a grown man serious while he is wearing a pair of wranglers...Look at Dale Jr.  The guy is half retarded...

It could be very lkikely that bthis is spin and he is still a pill popper
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2008, 06:33:07 AM
yeah, he can go back to the pack and get his $18 mil or whatever.  he'll be the #2 QB and get his paycheck.

The pack fans would go absolutely apeshit if they started 0-3 while dickhead Erin [sic] Rodgers throwing 3 picks a week while a freshly rested HOFer who had one of his best seasons last year, sits on the bench.

Dude, Favre is "Mr. Interception". Im almost positive that he has the thrown the most career interceptions ever. He is the undisputed interception champion of the world.


Ive seen Rogers play once. And he kicked ass. He replaced Favre after Favre was getting absolutely chewed up and spit out by the Cowboys defense on (national TV) during a monday night game last season.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 28, 2008, 09:50:25 AM
I would too... Only a dumbass owner would let that much salary sit on the sidelines and call in plays or whatever.

Can you imagine how stupid that is?

Think of how many really good players you can get for 12 million a year.

Insanity.

Not so dumb.

Some owners truly doi not care about winning.

Some want to teach lessons.

A couple of years ago, Dan Snyder was fed up with his three top receivers.

2 were #1 choices, another nearly so.

They had about 20 catches btw the three, and it was week 5 or so.

They started the 'primadonna' shit with him.

Snyder said (To paraphrase)

"Okay. I know you guys think you are the shit, and that you have my tits in the wringer.

But, you do not.

What I will do is, I will put hard work first, honrr second, and winning third.

If you guys are not gonna try, I will bench you all, for the rest of the year.

I don't think we will do much worse, given your production. And your trade value will be irreparably diminished."

Don't know the outcome, but Snyder did man the fuck up to those fucking gang bangers.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: tu_holmes on July 28, 2008, 10:09:56 AM
Not so dumb.

Some owners truly doi not care about winning.

Some want to teach lessons.

A couple of years ago, Dan Snyder was fed up with his three top receivers.

2 were #1 choices, another nearly so.

They had about 20 catches btw the three, and it was week 5 or so.

They started the 'primadonna' shit with him.

Snyder said (To paraphrase)

"Okay. I know you guys think you are the shit, and that you have my tits in the wringer.

But, you do not.

What I will do is, I will put hard work first, honrr second, and winning third.

If you guys are not gonna try, I will bench you all, for the rest of the year.

I don't think we will do much worse, given your production. And your trade value will be irreparably diminished."

Don't know the outcome, but Snyder did man the fuck up to those fucking gang bangers.


Well, what I DO know is that The Redskins have been one of the worst teams in the league since around 2000 or so.

Don't know if it ended up being that much of a statement.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Moosejay on July 28, 2008, 10:15:46 AM

Well, what I DO know is that The Redskins have been one of the worst teams in the league since around 2000 or so.

Don't know if it ended up being that much of a statement.

True.

The Snyder's are known for their spending and similar largesse....but thye will not be disrespected by players. they feel they must know their place, I guess.

And, since profit sharing, its likely true some owners, given guaranteed big profits even if on the coattails of better clubs, don't care if they are 1-15
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: HeyNow on July 28, 2008, 10:21:06 AM
Dude, Favre is "Mr. Interception". I'm almost positive that he has the thrown the most career interceptions ever. He is the undisputed interception champion of the world.


Ive seen Rogers play once. And he kicked ass. He replaced Favre after Favre was getting absolutely chewed up and spit out by the Cowboys defense on (national TV) during a Monday night game last season.

Bro, you are an idiot.  Brett threw alot of interceptions because he has played every game and almost every play in every regular season game for the past 16 years!  It is bound to add up.  You forgot he has three MVP's and also a super bowl ring.  You know nothing about football go back to watching soccer you fruit!

Moosejay, Brett has done so much for the team and the community of Green Bay.  As a former resident it is amazing to see how much he gave to the community, time and money.  Why dont you put your posing trunks up for sale and donate the money.....oh ya thats right you are nobody so no one cares or would buy them.  You have done nothing for society except pay taxes.  Still a pill popper?  Only he would know that.

Hate some more and looking at your post count spend more time posting, since obviously you both dont have anything else better to do.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2008, 01:32:57 PM
Bro, you are an idiot.  Brett threw alot of interceptions because he has played every game and almost every play in every regular season game for the past 16 years!  It is bound to add up.  You forgot he has three MVP's and also a super bowl ring.  You know nothing about football go back to watching soccer you fruit!

Moosejay, Brett has done so much for the team and the community of Green Bay.  As a former resident it is amazing to see how much he gave to the community, time and money.  Why dont you put your posing trunks up for sale and donate the money.....oh ya thats right you are nobody so no one cares or would buy them.  You have done nothing for society except pay taxes.  Still a pill popper?  Only he would know that.

Hate some more and looking at your post count spend more time posting, since obviously you both dont have anything else better to do.

as far as post count, Ive been posting since 2003 (3 posts a day)


anyway Guys like Peyton And Tom Brady dont have Farves aweful interception tendencies. Cant argue with the stats.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: tu_holmes on July 28, 2008, 03:24:29 PM
Bro, you are an idiot.  Brett threw alot of interceptions because he has played every game and almost every play in every regular season game for the past 16 years!  It is bound to add up.  You forgot he has three MVP's and also a super bowl ring.  You know nothing about football go back to watching soccer you fruit!

Moosejay, Brett has done so much for the team and the community of Green Bay.  As a former resident it is amazing to see how much he gave to the community, time and money.  Why dont you put your posing trunks up for sale and donate the money.....oh ya thats right you are nobody so no one cares or would buy them.  You have done nothing for society except pay taxes.  Still a pill popper?  Only he would know that.

Hate some more and looking at your post count spend more time posting, since obviously you both dont have anything else better to do.

It is true that Brett Favre holds the record for INTs... He also holds the record for games started and for Touchdowns in a career. It seems that those numbers (even with the INTs), in my opinion of course, make Favre a top 10 QB of all time.

A lot of guys have thrown a lot of picks, but haven't thrown the yards, TDs, or come close to winning a superbowl.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: body88 on July 28, 2008, 03:35:55 PM
4155 yards, 28 TD's and a 95.7 QB rating for 2007, i'd say that combined with his legendary standing in the game earns him another year with the Packers.

Right, but he retired, and the packers changed the entire offensive scheme..... He has done this many times, eventually the packers have to say enough. In the playoffs, Farve has screwed the packers over the last five years, and done nothing but hurt them. Look how he played last year vs Dallas. What he is doing, is holding the packers hostage, and playing by his rules.

He should have committed to play another season when the pack approached him, but he pulled a Farve.


Farve has been getting his balls licked by the media since day one....they ignored his drug addiction, ignored the fact he holds the packers hostage, and have ignored the fact that he has screwed up in every big playoff game in recent memory....they can only take so much!
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: body88 on July 28, 2008, 03:41:38 PM
Bro, you are an idiot.  Brett threw alot of interceptions because he has played every game and almost every play in every regular season game for the past 16 years!  It is bound to add up.  You forgot he has three MVP's and also a super bowl ring.  You know nothing about football go back to watching soccer you fruit!

Moosejay, Brett has done so much for the team and the community of Green Bay.  As a former resident it is amazing to see how much he gave to the community, time and money.  Why dont you put your posing trunks up for sale and donate the money.....oh ya thats right you are nobody so no one cares or would buy them.  You have done nothing for society except pay taxes.  Still a pill popper?  Only he would know that.

Hate some more and looking at your post count spend more time posting, since obviously you both dont have anything else better to do.

Your wrong.... All you have to do is compare season by season his td to int ratio.....it's high, its always been high and anyone who is an NFL historian would agree, that Brett is a great player, BUT he is slightly overrated. Career totals don't mean shit, look at a bunch of his NFL seasons. I am not saying he is not a great player, but to be the greatest of all time, your td / int ratio should be lower.



Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: body88 on July 28, 2008, 03:43:55 PM
It is true that Brett Favre holds the record for INTs... He also holds the record for games started and for Touchdowns in a career. It seems that those numbers (even with the INTs), in my opinion of course, make Favre a top 10 QB of all time.

A lot of guys have thrown a lot of picks, but haven't thrown the yards, TDs, or come close to winning a superbowl.

He would be number 10, maybe lower if you count early era qb's.




Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: tu_holmes on July 28, 2008, 03:44:42 PM
He would be number 10, maybe lower if you count early era qb's.

I have him around 8 or 9 or so.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: body88 on July 28, 2008, 03:51:54 PM
I have him around 8 or 9 or so.

Thats fair.... I would talke Montana, Marino,  Brady, Manning, Elway, Kelly, Starr, Unitas, Staubach, Tarkington and Otto G before I took Farve.

Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: The_Punisher on July 28, 2008, 06:25:50 PM
...a warrior, etc.

Given his recent acts, anyone here think differently?

I do.

I think he thinks it's "All about him..."

and he  really doesn't care about the Packers or his family at all.




Fuck Brett favre and his stupid selfish ass. Kudos for Green bay for rejecting this fool. that Biatch just can't make up his fcuking mind on whether he wants to keep playing or retire. I salute green bay packers for putting this fool in his place.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: tu_holmes on July 28, 2008, 06:28:05 PM
Thats fair.... I would talke Montana, Marino,  Brady, Manning, Elway, Kelly, Starr, Unitas, Staubach, Tarkington and Otto G before I took Farve.



I don't have Otto or Kelly on my top 10.

The others are all there.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: Beefjake on July 28, 2008, 09:19:57 PM
But if Favre is so overrated and all...

Why won't they let him go? Make someone else pay his oversized salary?
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: body88 on July 28, 2008, 09:21:31 PM
I don't have Otto or Kelly on my top 10.

The others are all there.

Kelly really shouldent be there.....I thought he was a damn good player though.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: tu_holmes on July 28, 2008, 09:27:54 PM
Kelly really shouldent be there.....I thought he was a damn good player though.

True...  He was very very good.

I met him at a company picnic once... my dad worked with his brother or something.

6 degrees they say.
Title: Re: I always looked at a guy Like Brett Favre as a man of honor....
Post by: TechnoViking on July 28, 2008, 09:43:59 PM
My guess is Brett Favre can make up his mind but is just a premadonna...I think he knows every year that he is going to play but just needs the attention...